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Rules

NO soul sucking or BFR

the battle is in an endless eternity of space however there is a physicall indestructalbe but invisble floor that they can stand on if they wish which goes through the middle of this space.

minor Assumptions and Speculation is allowed (Pyron can be Andromeda if you wish to speculate so) however proof and foundation must be built around assumption and claims, "no Pyron can destroy reality ftw" unless you have foundation, reason backing something up

Both have 1 year of prep, both can call forces to their whim who would be usually under their control, Jedah his people from Makai (hes a lord isnt he, he would have followers), Pyron has robots, there is also a lot of planets in this universal space.

now let battle of the DSers begin

Jedah still, no contest.

Obviously Jedah ftw.

hm i have to wonder why?

i mean his soul powers and BFR are out of the fight, is it still such a stomp for the guy?

i wonder if V2D thinkgs the same, Jedah does not have that many attacks left does he?

Without BFR or his soul powers, Jedah loses 4/5ths of his power. Pyron wins.

hmm but ime interested in how? i thought hed have a good run at it, but how does he win when Jedah can be liquid and all sorts of funny business

By evaporating him!

Pyron wins. Different power levels, and Jedah can't win the cheap way.

Jedah and his legion...

Jedah has Lilith on his side and about a million Q-Bees who will put the Phobos to shame.

Even if Jedah is restricted he can still turn Pyron's soul into a Majigen.
It took all the power in makai, including the power of the dyin Belial to kill jedah and that's when Jedah was FAR weaker than he is now.

Don't see Pyron dishin out that much power, but it would be a descent fight...since jedah is restricted.

Originally posted by Your G.O.D
Jedah and his legion...

Jedah has Lilith on his side and about a million Q-Bees who will put the Phobos to shame.

Even if Jedah is restricted he can still turn Pyron's soul into a Majigen.
It took all the power in makai, including the power of the dyin Belial to kill jedah and that's when Jedah was FAR weaker than he is now.

Don't see Pyron dishin out that much power, but it would be a descent fight...since jedah is restricted. Jedah needs to soul suck to make Pyron a Majigen. Jedah has ONE Q-Bee. There is only ONE Q-Bee, and how does she even put ONE Phobos to shame? Pyron>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Lilith, that's not even a debate. Also, Pyron could just make a mini sun to evaporate him.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Jedah needs to soul suck to make Pyron a Majigen. Where does it say that Jedah has to soul suck, all he has to do is remove it?

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Jedah has ONE Q-Bee. There is only ONE Q-Bee, and how does she even put ONE Phobos to shame? That ONE Q-Bee has an army of others and EVERY DS can kill a Phobos...many Phobos at one time might I add. The Phobos are almost canon fodder.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Pyron>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Lilith, that's not even a debate. Pyron is not that much greater than Lilith, hell, he may not be greater than her at all. Lilith is almost as powerful as Moriggan who is near or equal to Demetri who killed Pyron at 80%

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Also, Pyron could just make a mini sun to evaporate him. I doubt Jedah will let him do that. If Demetri can eat Pyron there is almost no doubt that Jedah can. And If Jedah is evaporated he will still come back. Also, this is just restricting Jedah's soul takin powers, he can still attack Pyrons soul from the inside.

Q-Bee's army kills the Phobos, then suck Pyron dry of his powers and then Jedah, Lilith, and Q-Bee proceed to curbstomp Pyron, OR Jedah can just take the souls and power of the bee army, Lilith, and Q-Bee, increasing his own and then Jedah himself will proceed to curbstomp Pyron.

Originally posted by Your G.O.D
Where does it say that Jedah has to soul suck, all he has to do is remove it?

That ONE Q-Bee has an army of others and EVERY DS can kill a Phobos...many Phobos at one time might I add. The Phobos are almost canon fodder.

Pyron is not that much greater than Lilith, hell, he may not be greater than her at all. Lilith is almost as powerful as Moriggan who is near or equal to Demetri who killed Pyron at 80%

I doubt Jedah will let him do that. If Demetri can eat Pyron there is almost no doubt that Jedah can. And If Jedah is evaporated he will still come back. Also, this is just restricting Jedah's soul takin powers, he can still attack Pyrons soul from the inside.

Q-Bee's army kills the Phobos, then suck Pyron dry of his powers and then Jedah, Lilith, and Q-Bee proceed to curbstomp Pyron, OR Jedah can just take the souls and power of the bee army, Lilith, and Q-Bee, increasing his own and then Jedah himself will proceed to curbstomp Pyron. 1. How the hell do you think he removes it?

2. No, there is only one Queen Bee, then there is the soul bee race. Also, any proof that any DS can kill a Phobos? You know, the ones that can vape cities and kill civilizations?

3. Ummm, Pyron is MUCH greater than both Lilith AND Morrigan(maybe not after she absorbs Lilith, tho that is pure speculation). Also, that was a self weakened Pyron that lost to Demitri, at full power, Pyron would have squashed him between his fingers.

4. Pyron was weakened when beat by Demitri. Also, making mini suns for Pyron is a simple process, he makes them from his own body. Jedah can't attack souls, he can take them and manipulate them. Also, how will he come back from evaporation? Being reduced to a puddle of blood sure, but evaporation?

5. I still see no reason why the Soul Bees>Phobos. Pyron DEMOLISHES Q-Bee AND Lilith, and then beats Jedah.

Lilith > Pyron, lmao

Lulz, who voted for infinite universe/battle destruction (besides me 131)?

me, ime staying nuetral in this fight dur

Yepperz. Let the DS fanboys pound on each other. durlaugh

if Pyron is Cosmic dik, whats Jedahs......liquid Dik.....i wonder if when he turns to liquid his semen mixes with him ...ewk, not nice to think of durlaugh

Definitely.

Originally posted by Sado-sama
Yepperz. Let the DS fanboys pound on each other. durlaugh

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
1. How the hell do you think he removes it? He doesn't necessarily have to take it inside him self, just remove it from Pyron's body.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
2. No, there is only one Queen Bee, then there is the soul bee race. I know that.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Also, any proof that any DS can kill a Phobos? You know, the ones that can vape cities and kill civilizations?Phobos kill and destroy HUMAN civilizations<<<<<<<<<<< mean while Q-Bee's peeps kill and conquer other DS.
Have you seen Phobos's ending? Jedah destroys the damn thing with minimal effort...I think he just slapped it.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
3. Ummm, Pyron is MUCH greater than both Lilith AND Morrigan(maybe not after she absorbs Lilith, tho that is pure speculation). Not really, it has already been stated that Morrigan at full power is the GREATEST of all DS, equal to Belial, she just has no feats, that's all.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Also, that was a self weakened Pyron that lost to Demitri, at full power, Pyron would have squashed him between his fingers. Now that's speculation. Demitri has shown the ability to absorb Pyron completely so no matter how big he gets, it's all the same. It aint like Pyron cuts away his power and stores it outside of himself. I seriously doubt that Pyron could survive a space time destroying attack. And also, Demitri knew magic, something Pyron has never came up against. Pyron may be stronger than Lilith...but not by much.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
4. Pyron was weakened when beat by Demitri. Demetri was weakened as well. Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Also, making mini suns for Pyron is a simple process, he makes them from his own body. Jedah can't attack souls, he can take them and manipulate them. Also, how will he come back from evaporation? Being reduced to a puddle of blood sure, but evaporation? Jedah can attack souls, which is also how Jedah keeps Lilith in check from time to time.

Jedah was completely obliterated 1st time he died, erased from existence. Yet he still came back...don't know how but he did...

Jedah is smaller then Pyron for sure, but he can still do almost every thing Pyron can do, just in different ways.

I don't really think Jedah can take Pyron in a one on one with the stipulations of this match, (if he can't suck souls or BFR, he can't use ANY of his supers because all of his supers do just that) but with the bees and Lilith, he takes it. Don't really see the Phobos as a threat...jedah can one shot the entire army seeins how J.T, Felecia and B.B. Hood can kill them wit out much worry and even though humans lose to the Phobos eventually, they manage to put up a decent fight before bein wiped out of existence by the "Golden Army"

Originally posted by Your G.O.D
He doesn't necessarily have to take it inside him self, just remove it from Pyron's body.

I know that.

Phobos kill and destroy HUMAN civilizations<<<<<<<<<<< mean while Q-Bee's peeps kill and conquer other DS.
Have you seen Phobos's ending? Jedah destroys the damn thing with minimal effort...I think he just slapped it.

Not really, it has already been stated that Morrigan at full power is the GREATEST of all DS, equal to Belial, she just has no feats, that's all.

Now that's speculation. Demitri has shown the ability to absorb Pyron completely so no matter how big he gets, it's all the same. It aint like Pyron cuts away his power and stores it outside of himself. I seriously doubt that Pyron could survive a space time destroying attack. And also, Demitri knew magic, something Pyron has never came up against. Pyron may be stronger than Lilith...but not by much.

Demetri was weakened as well. Jedah can attack souls, which is also how Jedah keeps Lilith in check from time to time.

Jedah was completely obliterated 1st time he died, erased from existence. Yet he still came back...don't know how but he did...

Jedah is smaller then Pyron for sure, but he can still do almost every thing Pyron can do, just in different ways.

I don't really think Jedah can take Pyron in a one on one with the stipulations of this match, (if he can't suck souls or BFR, he can't use ANY of his supers because all of his supers do just that) but with the bees and Lilith, he takes it. Don't really see the Phobos as a threat...jedah can one shot the entire army seeins how J.T, Felecia and B.B. Hood can kill them wit out much worry and even though humans lose to the Phobos eventually, they manage to put up a decent fight before bein wiped out of existence by the "Golden Army" 1. Ummm, soul suck is SUCKING THE SOUL OUT OF AN OPPONENT! He doesn't have to eat it to be soul suck.

2. Why do you act like they are all as powerful as Q-Bee then?

3. No, they actually wiped out the dinosaurs. And they vape cities with missile barrages. Q-Bee kill a DS? When?

Also, losing to Jedah is not such a bad thing, he's freaking Jedah for Christ's sake.

4. After absorbing Lilith, she is not at full power. Oh, and Pyron is not even a DS, so the point is moot. Hell, for all we know, he could beat Jedah at full power.

5. No, Demitri has shown the power to absorb Pyron after he fought with and weakened him, and even proclaimed Pyron(weakened) to have been a worthy opponent, implying it was a hard fought battle. Oh, and Pyron literally did weaken his body to fight the DSers, he did it to "conform to terrestrial combat" or "to fight under earth's rules". Seriously doubt Pyron could survive that attack by Belial? That attack would be the equivelant of a mosuito bite on full power Pyron. Demitri has magic over Pyron? Pyron has strength, speed to move billions of times faster than light, size, power output, fighting skill, experience, and pretty much EVERYTHING over Demitri.

6. Demitri was at least at 80%, no less, probably more, when he grew to 80% power was when he was able to leave his castle and produce and aura around him. Jedah can attack souls? What do you mean by that?

7. Can he fly billions of times FTL? No. Does he have cosmic awareness on the same level as Pyron's? Maybe. Is he as physically strong as Pyron? No. Those are just some ways.

8. Lilith and Q-Bee with her army would get flattened by Pyron alone.

When has a human so much as stood up to a Phobos?

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
1. Ummm, soul suck is SUCKING THE SOUL OUT OF AN OPPONENT! He doesn't have to eat it to be soul suck. Oh...you got a point.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
2. Why do you act like they are all as powerful as Q-Bee then? They aint but they have spent their lives absorbin souls and power. That's gotta count for more then what Phobos can do.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
3. No, they actually wiped out the dinosaurs. And they vape cities with missile barrages. Q-Bee kill a DS? When? Humans can vape cities and kill dinosaurs wit today's technology.

The bees live in Makai, the only souls to eat in Makai is that of the DS.


Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Also, losing to Jedah is not such a bad thing, he's freaking Jedah for Christ's sake. But in one move... a single slap? (not really sure, it was most likely a slap)

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
4. After absorbing Lilith, she is not at full power. Oh, and Pyron is not even a DS, so the point is moot. Hell, for all we know, he could beat Jedah at full power.I doubt Pyron at full power can handle Jedah, he lacks the necessary abilities to win.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
5. No, Demitri has shown the power to absorb Pyron after he fought with and weakened him, and even proclaimed Pyron(weakened) to have been a worthy opponent, implying it was a hard fought battle. Oh, and Pyron literally did weaken his body to fight the DSers, he did it to "conform to terrestrial combat" or "to fight under earth's rules". Seriously doubt Pyron could survive that attack by Belial? That attack would be the equivelant of a mosuito bite on full power Pyron. Demitri has magic over Pyron? Pyron has strength, speed to move billions of times faster than light, size, power output, fighting skill, experience, and pretty much EVERYTHING over Demitri. Magic can allow the user to do anything he wishes, and Pyron lacks magical abilities so he has no defense for it. Rather pyron powers up or down, he's still made of energy and Demetri has shown the capacity to absorb Pyron completely.
And Pyron has no space time powers, Belails attack would rip Pyron to shreds with great ease.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
6. Jedah can attack souls? What do you mean by that? Destroy the soul with out harmin the body.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
7. Can he fly billions of times FTL? No. Does he have cosmic awareness on the same level as Pyron's? Maybe. Is he as physically strong as Pyron? No. Those are just some ways. All of that means nothin if you can teleport and have inter dimensional travel abilities AND know magic.


Originally posted by Violent2Dope
8. Lilith and Q-Bee with her army would get flattened by Pyron alone.

When has a human so much as stood up to a Phobos? Jedah can do the same to Pyron's army.

Come to think of it, Jedah's group consists of Lilith, Q-Bee, the Soul Bees, the rest of the Dohma family, the lesser DS jedah has in his control as seen in his hyper combo, and he has his master too. The baby, who I think is the Majigen alone will solo Pyron if fully awakened.

Jedah can't beat Pyron alone with the restrictions of this match but Jedah's guys more than make up for that.

Originally posted by Your G.O.D
Oh...you got a point.

They aint but they have spent their lives absorbin souls and power. That's gotta count for more then what Phobos can do.

Humans can vape cities and kill dinosaurs wit today's technology.

The bees live in Makai, the only souls to eat in Makai is that of the DS.


But in one move... a single slap? (not really sure, it was most likely a slap)

I doubt Pyron at full power can handle Jedah, he lacks the necessary abilities to win.

Magic can allow the user to do anything he wishes, and Pyron lacks magical abilities so he has no defense for it. Rather pyron powers up or down, he's still made of energy and Demetri has shown the capacity to absorb Pyron completely.
And Pyron has no space time powers, Belails attack would rip Pyron to shreds with great ease.

Destroy the soul with out harmin the body.

All of that means nothin if you can teleport and have inter dimensional travel abilities AND know magic.


Jedah can do the same to Pyron's army. 1. ioriyagami

2. Vape cities. Oh, and the Phobos lack souls, so they cannot be harmed by Jedah's soul powers.

3. Yeah, they use a nuke that takes a long time to make and has to be dropped, then they are out of the nuke. A Phobos can do it with one attack, and still be able to fight. Also, humans can certainly kill a dinosaur with tech, but then again a dinosaur can easily kill a group of humans as well.

4. Morrigan lives in Makai. She goes to the human world to...have sex...rofl(her "victims" die afterwards)

5. I just looked at it, it doesn't show how he's defeated, but you wanna know sumthin funny, JEDAH was defeated in that fight as well!

http://www.vgmuseum.com/end/psx/c/ds3vshui.htm

6. Truthfully, I doubt it as well.

7. So Demitri is now omnipotent because he can do magic? ROFL. Hell, Ganondorf can do magic, can he also beat Pyron? No, that's the answer. Pyron does lack a defense against magic, that much is true, which is another defining factor in his defeat, but what good would magic do against an opponent who would throw him into the sun before he could react? Demitri has shown the ability to absorb a defeated WEAKENED Pyron completely, not a full power one, and he can't do it at the start of the fight. Pyron has energy absorption and manipulation as well, do you honestly think Demitri has more control over Pyron's body than Pyron?

Demitri has no time space powers either, yet he survived.

8. Oh, so he can attack the soul, that makes this fight closer at least, tho Pyron still mantains the speed advantage, strength advantage, power advantage, among others.

9. Pyron can tele. Possibly thru dimensions, I think DSZ said that, tho not sure. Pyron doesn't have magic, but he has vast cosmic powers.

10. Considering Pyron can actually continue to create more and more Phobos if he wished, I don't know about that. Actually, he prolly could.

Originally posted by Your G.O.D
Come to think of it, Jedah's group consists of Lilith, Q-Bee, the Soul Bees, the rest of the Dohma family, the lesser DS jedah has in his control as seen in his hyper combo, and he has his master too. The baby, who I think is the Majigen alone will solo Pyron if fully awakened.

Jedah can't beat Pyron alone with the restrictions of this match but Jedah's guys more than make up for that. The Shintai(the baby) is not working under Jedah, and he would need a vast amount of souls(billions in fact) to wake it. Seeing as he can't soul suck, it's not happening. Rest of Dohma family? There ARE no more in the Dohma family, Jedah was the last one, Ozomu took over, and Jedah killed him and used his soul for the Majigen. Lesser DS? What, C class? Lol.....Pyron would kill them with his pinky. Hell, Pyron would destroy the earth with his pinky tip!

Originally posted by Violent2Dope

2. Vape cities. Oh, and the Phobos lack souls, so they cannot be harmed by Jedah's soul powers.

3. Yeah, they use a nuke that takes a long time to make and has to be dropped, then they are out of the nuke. A Phobos can do it with one attack, and still be able to fight. Also, humans can certainly kill a dinosaur with tech, but then again a dinosaur can easily kill a group of humans as well.

4. Morrigan lives in Makai. She goes to the human world to...have sex...rofl(her "victims" die afterwards)

5. I just looked at it, it doesn't show how he's defeated, but you wanna know sumthin funny, JEDAH was defeated in that fight as well!

http://www.vgmuseum.com/end/psx/c/ds3vshui.htm

6. Truthfully, I doubt it as well.

7. So Demitri is now omnipotent because he can do magic? ROFL. Hell, Ganondorf can do magic, can he also beat Pyron? No, that's the answer. Pyron does lack a defense against magic, that much is true, which is another defining factor in his defeat, but what good would magic do against an opponent who would throw him into the sun before he could react? Demitri has shown the ability to absorb a defeated WEAKENED Pyron completely, not a full power one, and he can't do it at the start of the fight. Pyron has energy absorption and manipulation as well, do you honestly think Demitri has more control over Pyron's body than Pyron?

Demitri has no time space powers either, yet he survived.

8. Oh, so he can attack the soul, that makes this fight closer at least, tho Pyron still mantains the speed advantage, strength advantage, power advantage, among others.

9. Pyron can tele. Possibly thru dimensions, I think DSZ said that, tho not sure. Pyron doesn't have magic, but he has vast cosmic powers.

10. Considering Pyron can actually continue to create more and more Phobos if he wished, I don't know about that. Actually, he prolly could.

2. The Phobos can not harm Jedah either. He can regenerate from anything. If Jedah could use his powers he could send'em all to another dimension in one swoop. The Bee army has gained many powers and souls over the years, unlike the Phobos who have set limits...like most weapons.

3.Point is, the humans can replicate what the Phobos do...maybe not any where near as well, but they can.

4.Morrigan has the Aensland Ring in which 1/3 of he power is sealed in, that's how she travels in and out of dimensions effortlessly. The Bees don't have the power to cross into other dimensions. They are bound to Makai.

And Morrigan doesn't have to have sex to survive, she aint that type of succubus. You seem to have decent amount knowledge on the DS so you should already know how Morrigan really survives. And what she really leaves Makai for.

5.My bad, don't really remember the endin that well (I haven't played DS in years), but you know that endin is crap on a stick.

In the comics and movies those things get killed in like one hit, by characters like J.T., Felicia, Rikuo and B.B Hood.

7. Didn't say demetri was Omnipotent, obviously not cuz he got one shot by Belial, but he has something Pyron does not, something powerful that Pyron does not have. No matter how big and powerful Pyron got, Pyron is Pyron. And the specs of the battle were never given, for all we know Demetri coulda absorbed Pyron at the start of the match

(I think a Demetri VS Pyron thread is in order)

8.As far as speed goes they are tied cuz both Jedah and Pyron can teleport, but Jedah has the edge cuz he can teleport into other dimensions. I will admit that Pyrons probably got Jedah beat in ALL the physical categories but Jedah has too many other abilities...the guy can get vaped and return.

The baby should start the match at full power and it doesn't matter if he's over or under Jedah...they are still on the same team. But I think Pryon probably would win this but I mean come'on, if a match like this is made at least reduce his size to that of his opponents, jedah really doesn't have his powers and the other guys are pretty human sized. Pyron could Just grow to the size of Jupiter and crush the battle field or throw a star at them...that's not fair at all...but I guess Pyron would win this eventually.

lawls at pyron even lifting a star, okie i think ill just keep Pyron to earth size

NEW Rule

pyron can not get larger than perhaps half the earth

Originally posted by Your G.O.D
2. The Phobos can not harm Jedah either. He can regenerate from anything. If Jedah could use his powers he could send'em all to another dimension in one swoop. The Bee army has gained many powers and souls over the years, unlike the Phobos who have set limits...like most weapons.

3.Point is, the humans can replicate what the Phobos do...maybe not any where near as well, but they can.

4.Morrigan has the Aensland Ring in which 1/3 of he power is sealed in, that's how she travels in and out of dimensions effortlessly. The Bees don't have the power to cross into other dimensions. They are bound to Makai.

And Morrigan doesn't have to have sex to survive, she aint that type of succubus. You seem to have decent amount knowledge on the DS so you should already know how Morrigan really survives. And what she really leaves Makai for.

5.My bad, don't really remember the endin that well (I haven't played DS in years), but you know that endin is crap on a stick.

In the comics and movies those things get killed in like one hit, by characters like J.T., Felicia, Rikuo and B.B Hood.

7. Didn't say demetri was Omnipotent, obviously not cuz he got one shot by Belial, but he has something Pyron does not, something powerful that Pyron does not have. No matter how big and powerful Pyron got, Pyron is Pyron. And the specs of the battle were never given, for all we know Demetri coulda absorbed Pyron at the start of the match

(I think a Demetri VS Pyron thread is in order)

8.As far as speed goes they are tied cuz both Jedah and Pyron can teleport, but Jedah has the edge cuz he can teleport into other dimensions. I will admit that Pyrons probably got Jedah beat in ALL the physical categories but Jedah has too many other abilities...the guy can get vaped and return.

The baby should start the match at full power and it doesn't matter if he's over or under Jedah...they are still on the same team. But I think Pryon probably would win this but I mean come'on, if a match like this is made at least reduce his size to that of his opponents, jedah really doesn't have his powers and the other guys are pretty human sized. Pyron could Just grow to the size of Jupiter and crush the battle field or throw a star at them...that's not fair at all...but I guess Pyron would win this eventually. 2. What if he was to be disintegrated by the atom? Jedah doesn't have his powers dude. Also, the bees do have limits, come on, one limit is that they have VERY short life spans, Phobos' life span is forever.

3. Humans can replicate alot of things in different ways. They can replicate busting a planet as well with nukes in the right places.

4. There are portals all throughout Makai, the human dimension and Makai are practicly linked.

She leaves Makai to have sex, which turns her victim into a skeleton.

5. Well duh, one Phobos killing Jedah? ROFL.

6. Actually, Felicia in the OVA couldn't kill ONE Phobos. Not sure about the others you named, tho J.T. has killed many, but he is one of the stronger DSers, not quite A class tho, maybe a high B+.

7. Pyron has size, strength, speed, power output, and vast cosmic power, all of which Demitri doesn't have(well, Demitri's strength is comparable to mortal/weakened Pyron). Demitri CAN'T absorb Pyron right away, that is the thing. He had to defeat mortal Pyron first.

(I'll make it)

8. Teleing into other dimensions makes his tele superior...how exactly? Also, Pyron may be able to do that, not sure, I'll ask DSZ.

Lol, Pyron can't throw a star, he could make one and vape them with it tho.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
2. What if he was to be disintegrated by the atom? I think that the only way to kill Jedah is to destroy his soul, and I think his soul is immune to destruction by most other than the Gods of DS to Jedah cuz he's supposed to be some sort of Anti Christ.Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Also, the bees do have limits, come on, one limit is that they have VERY short life spans, Phobos' life span is forever. But the Bees can get stronger and stronger over time...the Phobos can't.


Originally posted by Violent2Dope
4. There are portals all throughout Makai, the human dimension and Makai are practicly linked. I'm not so sure about that.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
She leaves Makai to have sex, which turns her victim into a skeleton. Actually she probably does do the nasty but she also goes to do battle and have fun which brings pleasure and when she is pleasured her body makes some kind of liquid she drinks to sustain life.



6. Actually, Felicia in the OVA couldn't kill ONE Phobos. Not sure about the others you named, tho J.T. has killed many, but he is one of the stronger DSers, not quite A class tho, maybe a high B+. J.T. has the potential to be on Demetri level, the Kruetz family (J.T's father's side of the family) were rivals wit the Maximovs. They lacked magic and other demonic abilities but had some kind of instant death moves and they had unrivaled raw power. I think the leader was a dragon and J.T.'s grand father.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
7. vast cosmic power, all of which Demitri doesn't have(well, Demitri's strength is comparable to mortal/weakened Pyron). I'm pretty sure that Demetri's demon and magic powers could replicate what Pyron can do wit cosmic powers.Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Demitri CAN'T absorb Pyron right away, that is the thing. He had to defeat mortal Pyron first. We don't really know that, Demetri was powered down as well, he didn't even fight in his true form.


Originally posted by Violent2Dope
8. Teleing into other dimensions makes his tele superior...how exactly? Cuz he can go to places Pyron can't Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Also, Pyron may be able to do that, not sure, I'll ask DSZ. He can't, but he can communicate through other dimensions which is what he did to lure out the DS.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Lol, Pyron can't throw a star, Why not? If he can grow to a size similar to that of a star, whats stopin him from usein his chest beam to push a smaller star/dwarf star into a planet at break neck speeds?

Originally posted by Burning thought


pyron can not get larger than perhaps half the earth That's still to big...make'em man size.

Originally posted by Your G.O.D
That's still to big...make'em man size.

no point in taking everything pyron has at his disposal until you can say "Jedah wins"

Originally posted by Your G.O.D
I think that the only way to kill Jedah is to destroy his soul, and I think his soul is immune to destruction by most other than the Gods of DS to Jedah cuz he's supposed to be some sort of Anti Christ.

But the Bees can get stronger and stronger over time...the Phobos can't.


I'm not so sure about that.

Actually she probably does do the nasty but she also goes to do battle and have fun which brings pleasure and when she is pleasured her body makes some kind of liquid she drinks to sustain life.



J.T. has the potential to be on Demetri level, the Kruetz family (J.T's father's side of the family) were rivals wit the Maximovs. They lacked magic and other demonic abilities but had some kind of instant death moves and they had unrivaled raw power. I think the leader was a dragon and J.T.'s grand father.

I'm pretty sure that Demetri's demon and magic powers could replicate what Pyron can do wit cosmic powers.

We don't really know that, Demetri was powered down as well, he didn't even fight in his true form.


Cuz he can go to places Pyron can't

He can't, but he can communicate through other dimensions which is what he did to lure out the DS.

Why not? If he can grow to a size similar to that of a star, whats stopin him from usein his chest beam to push a smaller star/dwarf star into a planet at break neck speeds? 1. Proof? I have never heard such a thing. Jedah is not some Beyonder type character, he has limits.

2. How much tho? And ever thot they did it for food, not power? Also, with a lifespan that is less than ten years I think it was, you will not be getting much stronger.

3. I am. How do you think all the DSers get out of Makai? They don't all have Aensland rings.

4. droolio

5. I don't know if he could get Demitri level by genetics alone, he is only half DSer you know.

6. List of things Pyron can do that Demitri can't:

Create something from nothing
Give the thing you created a sentient, almost humanlike mind with a purpose.
See Earth from the other side of the universe.
Rub earth out with his pinky-tip.

Also, what about the other things I listed he has over Demitri?

7. He was at at least 80%, prolly more. His human form and demon form only differ in appearance and a few things like claws, not power.

8. So he can run away? That's nice.

9. Hmm...I will ask DSZ about it.

10. Well, that is maybe possible, I thot you meant he would grab and throw a star lol.

I see Jedah taking this after a hard fought battle. Yea....

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
1. Proof? I have never heard such a thing. Jedah is not some Beyonder type character, he has limits. Well how else would Jedah die completely? He got erased and came back?

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
2. How much tho? And ever thot they did it for food, not power? Also, with a lifespan that is less than ten years I think it was, you will not be getting much stronger. Idk. It is for food but I doubt they eat souls but nothin happens, but when the likes of Demetri, Jedah and Morrigan do it, they gain power.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
3. I am. How do you think all the DSers get out of Makai? They don't all have Aensland rings. They don't all leave Makai though, a large chunk of DS takes place in Makai. Not even Jedah has crossed into the human world, Canon.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
4. droolio

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
5. I don't know if he could get Demitri level by genetics alone, he is only half DSer you know. A purely evil human can survive in Makai and live amongst the DS. Not sayin that they'll be as powerful though.

J.T. has potential

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
6. List of things Pyron can do that Demitri can't:

Create something from nothing
Give the thing you created a sentient, almost humanlike mind with a purpose.
See Earth from the other side of the universe.
Rub earth out with his pinky-tip. That's another thing that makes this fight uneven, not only can Pyon make Phobos but he can make other evolved Hellstomians/Heralds from his frickin finger tips.



Originally posted by Violent2Dope
7. He was at at least 80%, prolly more. His human form and demon form only differ in appearance and a few things like claws, not power. I totally disagree, yo.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
8. So he can run away? That's nice. No, he can run to the Majigen and attack from there.


Originally posted by Violent2Dope
10. Well, that is maybe possible, I thot you meant he would grab and throw a star lol. If he dwarfs it, he probably could.

Originally posted by Burning thought
no point in taking everything pyron has at his disposal until you can say "Jedah wins" To bad you just did that to Jedah...

Good Job

Originally posted by Your G.O.D
To bad you just did that to Jedah...

Good Job


i did not just do it, i created that match with those rules, ime not changing the rules every time someone does not like something with their character

giving Jedah half of his powers means an instant win against Pyron and most enemies wheras giving pyron his powers is not the same..