Pyron vs Giygas

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ESB -1138
Had to be done....and FIGHT TO THE DEATH! Both of them are at max power!

Burning thought
does this Giygas have feats?

Your G.O.D
laughing

Yoshi Paradise
Originally posted by Burning thought
does this Giygas have feats?

Yes.

Burning thought
i would like to see feats please, or a website where i can see them

Yoshi Paradise
You'll have to ask someone else.

ESB -1138
Originally posted by Burning thought
does this Giygas have feats?

Ask Cosmic Cube. (S)he seems to know a lot bout Giygas.

Burning thought
Originally posted by ESB -1138
Ask Cosmic Cube. (S)he seems to know a lot bout Giygas.

hmm so am i right in saying you made the thread yet you dont know its feats? confused

Yoshi Paradise
Originally posted by Burning thought
hmm so am i right in saying you made the thread yet you dont know its feats? confused

At least he doesn't do it all the time, like Violent2Dope.

ESB -1138
Originally posted by Burning thought
hmm so am i right in saying you made the thread yet you dont know its feats? confused

Giygas is from Earthbound (Mother in Japan) and he lost his physical body and became pure evil and over the course of 10 years he destroyed the universe. Ta dah! I managed to say something about Giygas.

Burning thought
Originally posted by ESB -1138
Giygas is from Earthbound (Mother in Japan) and he lost his physical body and became pure evil and over the course of 10 years he destroyed the universe. Ta dah! I managed to say something about Giygas.

hmm big grin

i wonder if Cosmic has some conrete stuff tho, destroying the unvierse and all is cool, but how, what type of being he is combined with his attacks and possible weaknesses are important i think in this VS

most importantly, whats his Durability like, how fast is he and how much damage does he dish out

Violent2Dope
No no, thing is, none of that stuff matters BT, point is, in an unknown amount of time and an unknown way, he apparently destroyed the universe, so he is unbeatable. roll eyes (sarcastic)

ESB -1138
Originally posted by Burning thought
hmm big grin

i wonder if Cosmic has some conrete stuff tho, destroying the unvierse and all is cool, but how, what type of being he is combined with his attacks and possible weaknesses are important i think in this VS

most importantly, whats his Durability like, how fast is he and how much damage does he dish out

Well it is never explained how Giygas destroyed the universe or how long it took him but it seems just mentioning the word "Maria" would weaken Giygas; I'll try to look up the fight on youtube.

Cosmic Cube
Originally posted by ESB -1138
Well it is never explained how Giygas destroyed the universe or how long it took him but it seems just mentioning the word "Maria" would weaken Giygas; I'll try to look up the fight on youtube.
As I stated in the previous thread, it obviously took less than 10 years. Even if it took 100 years, the attack would have to be moving at trillions of times the speed of light.

That was Mother 1 Giygas who was weakend by his affinity for Maria, the human who raised him. Even when weakened (in Mother 2), no manner attack could defeat him, so essentially, his durability is infinite.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
No no, thing is, none of that stuff matters BT, point is, in an unknown amount of time and an unknown way, he apparently destroyed the universe, so he is unbeatable. roll eyes (sarcastic) Still waiting on that issue wherein Big G destroyed the universe.

Being able to defeat Pyron, who is on a lower power level, does not make Giygas totally undefeatable. He just wouldn't be defeated by Pyron.

Originally posted by Burning thought
hmm big grin

i wonder if Cosmic has some conrete stuff tho, destroying the unvierse and all is cool, but how, what type of being he is combined with his attacks and possible weaknesses are important i think in this VS

most importantly, whats his Durability like, how fast is he and how much damage does he dish out Giygas is the embodiment of evil power. He destroyed the universe via psionic attack. His only weakness was human emotion. At full power, he dished out enough damage to destroy the universe. He has a one hit kill attack (doesn't do damage, just kills the opponent.) As I said, his durability is essentially limitless.

Burning thought
its no use Cosmic, youll never convince V2D pyron loses

Pyron>>>all universes at once ftw!!

even if you beat him in the debate, hell come back later and say simply "pyron wins"

Yoshi Paradise
Originally posted by Burning thought
its no use Cosmic, youll never convince V2D pyron loses

even if you beat him in the debate, hell come back later and say simply "pyron wins"

It's true.

Violent2Dope is in denial 24/7 because he thinks that Pyron is unbeatable.

Violent2Dope
Originally posted by Burning thought
its no use Cosmic, youll never convince V2D pyron loses

Pyron>>>all universes at once ftw!!

even if you beat him in the debate, hell come back later and say simply "pyron wins" Like when you conceded in the Kain vs. Pyron thread then paraded in the off topic thread about how Kain pwns Pyron? Yeah, shut up.

Point is, the guy is pure immaterial energy from the sound of it, and isn't that fast, since somehow Ness and friends were able to weaken him before doing anything. Pyron just absorbs him. Phail.

Cosmic Cube
Originally posted by Burning thought
its no use Cosmic, youll never convince V2D pyron loses

Pyron>>>all universes at once ftw!!

even if you beat him in the debate, hell come back later and say simply "pyron wins" I hope not.Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Like when you conceded in the Kain vs. Pyron thread then paraded in the off topic thread about how Kain pwns Pyron? Yeah, shut up.

Point is, the guy is pure immaterial energy from the sound of it, and isn't that fast, since somehow Ness and friends were able to weaken him before doing anything. Pyron just absorbs him. Phail.
Let's get one thing straight: in the future, wherein Giygas destroyed the universe, he was undefeatable, hence Ness and his friends had to use the phase distorter (and have their souls transplanted into robots) to travel to the Cave of the Past and face Giygas, before he gained universe destroying power. Even then, they were unable to affect him at all. Without Paula, they would have been destroyed.

Oh yeah, and if Giygas is in the Devil's Machine (a machine that dampens his power,) he has an impenetrable reflect shield that reflects all damage done to him on the attacker, x2.

Ness and his friends didn't weaken him, and Pyron wouldn't be facing Giygas at the power level that Ness faced him at.

Pyron is way out of his league. He would be destroyed.

Burning thought
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Like when you conceded in the Kain vs. Pyron thread then paraded in the off topic thread about how Kain pwns Pyron? Yeah, shut up.

please show me proof of me conceding? i said he owns pyron because id beaten you already....the same way in the new Jedah, Demitri and Pyron thread, then you come back and in a childish manner say "pyron wins"

Violent2Dope
I keep on hearing nothing but busting feats. I want better than that. Also, can you prove all these claims?

Cosmic Cube
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
I keep on hearing nothing but busting feats. I want better than that. Also, can you prove all these claims? What kind of proof do you want, a picture? Cause it doesn't exist. Giygas isn't a comic book character. He's a character from a SNES title. Do you want me to email you an SNES emulator with the rom, or something?

C'mon man.

Giygas destroying the universe is a known fact to anyone who has played Earthbound.

I've given you more than busting feats. All you've said is that Pyron will absorb a being that's exponentially more powerful than he is.

Violent2Dope
Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
What kind of proof do you want, a picture? Cause it doesn't exist. Giygas isn't a comic book character. He's a character from a SNES title. Do you want me to email you an SNES emulator with the rom, or something? C'mon man. Giygas destroying the universe is a known fact.

I've given you more than busting feats. All you've said is that Pyron will absorb a being that's exponentially more powerful than he is. No, he is a being that can bust more, THAT IS IT! Speed, durability, strength, versatility, intellect, brutality, all of these other factors come to play.

Cosmic Cube
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
No, he is a being that can bust more, THAT IS IT! Speed, durability, strength, versatility, intellect, brutality, all of these other factors come to play.
You are clutching straws.

Because of the fact that Giygas can release enough power to destroy the universe, with enough speed to do it in less than 10 years, he is undeniably exponentilaly more powerful than Pyron, whom destroys planets. Saying otherwise is grossly illogical.

None of those attributes matter. Giyga's isn't material, and nothing Pyron can do will affect him. Giygas can essentially one-shot Pyron, and reflect all of his attacks back at him without any effort whatsoever.

ESB -1138
I love how you keep on using that Ness and his friends couldn't hurt him or break his shield when Pyron is lightyears beyond Ness and his friends.

And give Pyron 10 years and he can destroy the universe.

Burning thought
how does he reflect attacks? how does he hurt pyron who is also not so material and can become intangible at times

Cosmic Cube
Originally posted by ESB -1138
I love how you keep on using that Ness and his friends couldn't hurt him or break his shield when Pyron is lightyears beyond Ness and his friends.

And give Pyron 10 years and he can destroy the universe. No matter. Giygas has infinite durability (HP). Pyron could attack Giygas until kingdom come, without getting anywhere. Besides, The Devil's Machine would reflect all of his attacks.

And as I said, he destroyed the universe in less than 10 years. It could have happened in 5 seconds.

How would Pyron go about destroying the universe? Breaking planets one by one? Don't make me laugh.

And once again, Pyron would not be facing Giygas on the level of power that Ness did.

Burning thought
Cosmic has a point, he would absorb planets one by one

but it still comes, how will this guy kill pyron? the guy is still fast and has some powers, even if somehow he could not harm this guy, Pyron still may win.

Cosmic Cube
Originally posted by Burning thought
how does he reflect attacks? how does he hurt pyron who is also not so material and can become intangible at times The Devil's Machine reflects attacks back at the attacker, automatically.

Giygas has a one-hit kill attack (doesn't do damage, just kills in one hit.)

Pyron is so outclassed here.

Burning thought
Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
The Devil's Machine reflects attacks back at the attacker, automatically.

Giygas has a one-hit kill attack (doesn't do damage, just kills in one hit.

Pyron is so outclassed here.

ah well ya see what do you mean by one hit kill, first you have to state who it one hit kills, where in the storyline its a one hit kill, whether said by a character or another being, simply being a one hit kill attack in the game is not good enough simply put, Sephiroths heartless angel move is also a one hit kill, but its statistics are unkown, and its foolish to assume it could 1 hit Big G or LT from marvelverse just because of the game

the Devils machine? whats that, is it Tech, if so then its not neccerily part o the fight

Cosmic Cube
Originally posted by Burning thought
Cosmic has a point, he would absorb planets one by one

but it still comes, how will this guy kill pyron? the guy is still fast and has some powers, even if somehow he could not harm this guy, Pyron still may win. A better question is: 'how would Pyron kill Giygas?'

Speed isn't important, really, since no one knows how fast Giygas is, and regardless, Pyron couldn't affect him. All Giygas has to do is release the infinite darkness. Or one shot him. Giygas has more than enough power to destroy Pyron.

Cosmic Cube
Originally posted by Burning thought
ah well ya see what do you mean by one hit kill, first you have to state who it one hit kills, where in the storyline its a one hit kill, whether said by a character or another being, simply being a one hit kill attack in the game is not good enough simply put, Sephiroths heartless angel move is also a one hit kill, but its statistics are unkown, and its foolish to assume it could 1 hit Big G or LT from marvelverse just because of the game

the Devils machine? whats that, is it Tech, if so then its not neccerily part o the fight I noticed that you guys like to overrate Big G. For the record, he's nowhere near the power level of the LT.

The one shot is a PSI power that one hit KO's anyone on a lower power level. (Ness's PSI Flash is a variant of this attack.) Pyron qualifies.

The Devil's Machine is a machine that is needed to dampen Giygas' power (since he's crazy, and if he weren't under some type of restraint he would destroy everything around him.) Whether he has it or not is irrelevant. His durability is essentially infinite.

Burning thought
Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
I noticed that you guys like to overrate Big G. For the record, he's nowhere near the power level of the LT.

The one shot is a PSI power that one hit KO's anyone on a lower power level. (Ness's PSI Flash is a variant of this attack.) Pyron qualifies.

The Devil's Machine is a machine that is needed to dampen Giygas' power (since he's crazy, and if he weren't under some type of restraint he would destroy everything around him.) Whether he has it or not is irrelevant. His durability is infinite.

i never said he was on LT level, i simply mentioned OR LT, basically its a one hit attack and i was wondering if people rly thought so highly of such a move

i dont know what a PSI power is, please explain....show me proof that it definaltey one hits anyone on a lower power level, also how this power level is measured.

Cosmic Cube
Originally posted by Burning thought
i never said he was on LT level, i simply mentioned OR LT, basically its a one hit attack and i was wondering if people rly thought so highly of such a move

i dont know what a PSI power is, please explain....show me proof that it definaltey one hits anyone on a lower power level, also how this power level is measured.
I said that because V2D thinks Galactus can destroy universes. He can't. The Living Tribunal, however, can.

The move doesn't OHKO every time. Sometimes it paralyzes you or makes you cry (and unable to see, consequently). 1/3rd of the time it OHKOS.

For example, if Ness is confronted by a group of enemies, and he uses PSI Flash, it can KO all foes on his power level or lower and make others start crying, or paralyze them. It works the same for Giygas.

PSI is mental power invented by Giyga's race of aliens. Giygas became so powerful that his mind body and soul were destroyed by his immense PSI power. He became the whole of all evil power in the universe. An "almighty idiot".

espiemerl
Pyron wins.

Cosmic Cube
Originally posted by espiemerl
Pyron wins.
Gotta love those two word replys.

Pyron would be sentenced to the horror of infinite darkness. He's so outclassed, it isn't funny.

The simple fact that no one can come up with a valid argument wherein Pyron doesn't get totally destroyed is testment enough.

Planet Destroying power vs. Universe Destroying power.

ThoraxeRMG
Giegue/Giygas destroys Pyron.
He is outclassed.

Cosmic Cube
Originally posted by ThoraxeRMG
Giegue/Giygas destroys Pyron Look, a three/four word reply! This is great!

ThoraxeRMG
Not anymore big grin

Cosmic Cube
Originally posted by ThoraxeRMG
Not anymore big grin Aww. That's seven words... sad Too much.

Violent2Dope
Pyron just absorbs him. All I hear is busting feats. So he could bust a universe in ten years? Pyron can absorb him in less than a second. Pyron avoids his attacks via intangibility, and absorbs him.

Cosmic Cube
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Pyron just absorbs him. All I hear is busting feats. So he could bust a universe in ten years? Pyron can absorb him in less than a second. Pyron avoids his attacks via intangibility, and absorbs him. Sigh...

You are being ridiculous. If Pyron was hit with an attack with enough power to destroy the universe, he would be very dead.

It wouldn't take 10 years for the universe destroying attack to hit Pyron, whom would be within close proximity to the attacker. It didn't even take 10 years for it to destroy the universe, and it would hit Pyron within picoseconds, before he could even react, or flee. You are feebly attempting to make a play off of my prior statement.

What would Pyron absorb? Even if he could absorb Giygas, (which he can't) Giygas is the embodiment of all evil. He exists even in Pyron's mind, which Giygas could easily destroy. Giygas isn't losing to someone far less powerful than he is.

Pyron being intangible won't save him. His mind is still vulnerable, and he couldn't avoid Giygas's universe destroying power.

Pyron is outclassed, bottom line. He will get one-shotted, mind-raped, or flat out destroyed.

Violent2Dope
Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Sigh...

You are being ridiculous. If Pyron was hit with an attack with enough power to destroy the universe, he would be dead.

It wouldn't take 10 years for the universe destroying attack to hit Pyron, whom would be within close proximity to the attacker. It didn't even 10 years for it to destroy the universe, and it would hit Pyron within picoseconds, before he could even react, or flee.

What would Pyron absorb? Even if he could absorb Giygas, (which he can't) Giygas is the embodiment of all evil. He exists even in Pyron's mind, which Giygas could easily destroy. Giygas isn't losing to someone far less powerful than he is.

Pyron being intangible won't save him. His mind is still vulnerable, and he couldn't avoid Giygas's universe destroying power.

Pyron is outclassed, bottom line. 1. Too bad we don't know if he charges it, or how he does it at all. For all we know, he had to charge it for several hours, and then use it. Also, Pyron is billions of times faster than light, and can think at greater speeds than any human, how would he pull it off before him?

2. Why can he not absorb him? Any proof? Also, Pyron's mind>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>any human mind.

3. So the verse busting attack will hit something that doesn't exist on the same plane of existence? Lol, yeah right. Pyron has a much more advanced mind than any Earthbound character.

Pyron is outclassed in busting power only, bottom line.

Cosmic Cube
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
1. Too bad we don't know if he charges it, or how he does it at all. For all we know, he had to charge it for several hours, and then use it. Also, Pyron is billions of times faster than light, and can think at greater speeds than any human, how would he pull it off before him?

2. Why can he not absorb him? Any proof? Also, Pyron's mind>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>any human mind.

3. So the verse busting attack will hit something that doesn't exist on the same plane of existence? Lol, yeah right. Pyron has a much more advanced mind than any Earthbound character.

Pyron is outclassed in busting power only, bottom line. Doesn't matter if he charges it, considering the fact that Pyron can't do anything to him while he's doing so. And besides, PSI attacks don't require charging. Giygas isn't a human, so the speed of human thought is irrelevant.

As I stated, the attack moves at least a trillion times the speed of light. Pyron won't know it's coming and he won't escape it. Besides, Giygas knows what he's thinking.

Giygas>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Pyron. That is an answer to both of your questions. Being intangible will not save him. And, not that it matters, Pyron having a far more advanced mind is mere speculation on your part. Ness was powerful enough to create a pocket universe with his mind. Can Pyron do that?

lol! Outclassed in busting power!? WTF?

Giygas will bust Pyron, FTW.

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