Default Ancient Evidence Of Flying Machines

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Deano
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Ancient Egyptian Flying Vehicles :These images were found on the ceiling beams of a 3000-year old New Kingdom Temple, located several hundred miles south of Cairo and the Giza Plateau, at Abydos.

India - Vimanas

A vimana is a mythological flying machine, described in the ancient literature of India. References to these flying machines are commonplace in ancient Indian texts, even describing their use in warfare. As well as being able to fly within Earth's atmosphere, vimanas were also said to be able to travel into space and travel submerged underwater.

Descriptions in the Vedas and later Indian literature detail vimanas of various shapes and sizes:


In the Vedas: the sun, and flying wheeled chariots pulled by animals, usually horses (but the Vedic god Paksan's chariot is pulled by goats).

The "agnihotra-vimana" with two engines. (Agni means fire in Sanskrit.)

The "gaja-vimana" with more engines. (Gaja means elephant in Sanskrit.)

Other types named after the kingfisher, ibis, and other animals.

The word comes from Sanskrit and seems to be vi-mana = 'apart' or 'having been measured". The word also means a part of a Hindu temple. The meaning of the word likely changed in this sequence:

An area of land measured out and set apart to be used for sacred purposes.
Temple A god's palace. In the Ramayana: the demon-lord Ravana's flying palace called Pushpaka. In later Indian writings: other flying vehicles, and sometimes as a poetic word for ordinary ground vehicles. In some modern Indian languages (e.g. Gujarati), the word vimana means ordinary real aircraft.

Vimanavatthu (Pali for "Vimana Stories"wink uses the word "vimana" with a different meaning: "a small piece of text used as the inspiration for a Buddhist sermon".

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UFOS AND THE BIBLE
Aliens: the Angelic Conspiracy

ANGELS ARE INTELLIGENT BEINGS WHO ARE NOT HUMAN, MYSTERIOUS BEINGS WHO ARE "ALIEN" TO US. Angels are non-human intelligent beings who have superior technology and comprehension of physics, having been present at the creation of the material universe.

The concept of an ANGEL comes from the Greek aggelos; from the Hebrew ago for "one going forth" or "one leading"; messenger. Not all angels are "good". Not all angels continue to do God's will, although all angels were originally created by God to convey His message. Some angels rebelled against God's plan. Some angels go forth to give their own message; some angels go forth to lead mankind AWAY from the truth.

But all angels are more intelligent and powerful beings than mere humans.
The angels are represented throughout the Bible as a body of spiritual beings intermediate between God and men: "You have made him (man) a little less than the angels" (Psalm 8:6). They, equally with man, are created beings; "praise ye Him, all His angels: praise ye Him, all His hosts . . . for He spoke and they were made. He commanded and they were created" (Psalm 148:2, 5: Colossians 1:16, 17).

It has been said that Christians are "pretty narrow minded" to limit the population of the universe to merely GOD, ANGELS, AND MAN. After all, there are "billions and billions" of stars which perhaps have planets, which perhaps have civilizations etc. However, within the classification of angels exist diverse myriads. Hierarchies of innumerable angels still populate the universe. These angelic non-human intelligent beings built civilizations in our solar system -- even upon the Earth -- before Adam.

God is known throughout the Bible as the LORD OF HOSTS, Job 25:2:

Rule and fear are with Him
He makes peace in his high places.
Is there any number to his armies?

Among these myriads of angels are those who do their own will instead of God's. Those rebel angels in many guises are the intelligent non-human beings behind UFOs and the paranormal. *THEY* have a plan, their message is a deceptive one.

It's incremental acclimatization
from THEM!


"Why Israel?" UFOs in Mid-East
Israel and Jordan UFO Flap (first posted in 1996, perhaps outdated but the Israel flap continues even into 2003)

The book of the Jubilees remarks that Jared or Yeh-red, an Old Testament patriarch, was so called because in his days the angels descended upon the earth - Yaw-rad "descend". It is interesting to note that "Jordan" comes from that same root word denoting "descent, coming down or falling" - Yar-dane "the place of the descent". Jordan, "place of the descent", is located in the ancient boundary of Israel. Israel is currently a major location for sighting UFOs, and the fallen angels in disguise as "aliens".


VEDAs, ENOCH, ALL HAVE FLYING MACHINES, CHARIOTS OF FIRE.
ezeikel, was in contact with chariots of fire in the bible, the book of enoch was ommitted. the fallen bred with earth women, or artificially inseminated them to create hybrids/nephilm, the giants,etc. i think the souls of these nephilm, are the demons of today, the ones used/called upon in black magic, the ones battled in exorcisms. there is evidence in the bible, bones have been found, the vimanas/foo fighters, the thule society. then the operation paperclip after ww2, which was followed by an explosion of tech. look at the b2 grumman bomber, the f117 a nighthawk/stealth. look at semi conductor/tranistors, optical technology eg laser/optic fibres/cds etc. the leap from magnetic/tape to opitical/laserdisc

http://www.ufobc.ca/Reports/aliensreligion.htm

remember angels are messengers. angels do have free will, if they didn't, then why would satan rebel, and lose to archangel michael. also cydonia/asteroid belt.there are good/bad angels. remember the archangels, michael, raphael, gabriel and ariel.

i stress the fact religion was not bad until the elite took control of it. they have corrupted it, knowing full well when one becomes aware of the corruptions, they move away from it, hence completely disconnecting from the source, which leaves you anchorless/rudderless. the message of religion was harmony/unity/equality/love, which all teachers from krishna, buddha, yashuah etc stated

KharmaDog
The fact that they tried to equate ancient heiroglyphics to images of modern helicopters or the millenium falcon (yes, the millenium falcon) does not make you think that this is at all bullsh*t?

KharmaDog
No responce Deano?

Deano
i think they are basically saying that alien craft of that time looked like ours today.

i just find the heiroglyphics interesting. dont you?

Evil Dead
Originally posted by Deano
i think they are basically saying that alien craft of that time looked like ours today.

i just find the heiroglyphics interesting. dont you?

if the alien's flying crafts with wings and propellers could transverse the universe, bend time and space....why can't ours?

Deano
maybe they will one day

KharmaDog
Simple question.....

Originally posted by Evil Dead
if the alien's flying crafts with wings and propellers could transverse the universe, bend time and space....why can't ours?

Met by another noncommital dodge.....

Originally posted by Deano
maybe they will one day

Deano
how?

DigiMark007
Yes, they had helicopters.

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...and they also apparently had seen Star Wars, so that they could replicate the technology.

Funny that the only existing evidence of these things are dubious shots of heiroglyphics, that could be photoshopped in, or simply misinterpreted by people who aren't qualified to identify anything about Egyptian culture.

Also: There are no other accounts of flight, no remnants of flying machines in the tombs of Egyptian kings we routinely find, nothing in the culture, architechture, texts, remains of artwork, pottery, buildings, structures, etc. etc. to suggest that they could support such outlandish technological works. And of course, none of the technology, even more basic technology that would power simple motorized vehicles/machines, made it out of Egypt into the world at large, nor did it escape the time period into any other culture. Yup, they zipped into space, left us some scratchings on a wall, and waited for us to figure it out on our own millenia later.

roll eyes (sarcastic)

This is what I was talking about in the "crutch" thread deano. It's not being open-minded to see this as a possibility. It's naivety that borders on stupidity, unless something far more credible comes along.

Show me, for example, an actual scholar of Egyptian culture analyzing these glyphs and being stumped over their meaning...my guess is that they probably don't exist, and if they do there's a credible explanation for their true meaning. And even if (many, many if's just to get to this point) we reach that point and he hasn't figured it out, a few wall images don't equal spaceships just because we want them to...something has to be inferred or found to justify it. Otherwise the leap in logic is so great that it becomes irrational.

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