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With the impending Huc related beat down Stark does one of the most drastic things in his life. He screws with time. Intending to pull out several other Hulks to 'aid' him he instead mistakenly gains the killer Cybiote.

It wastes him.

Hulk breaks into Stark Tower and isn't too happy having his revenge denied.

Location : Stark Tower

Stipulation : No PIS, No CIS.

Ready FIGHT !

Dear god.......durznuts STARK HAS DOOMED US ALL!!!!!

galan_fury solos Marvel earth.

Edit: How much you want to bet Quan comes in and says WWH wins?

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Dear god.......durznuts STARK HAS DOOMED US ALL!!!!!

galan_fury solos Marvel earth.


QFT.

The Fury can destroy any number of Hulks.

Besides T-Pain... it really depends what Fury.

IMO, the only Fury that can defeat WWH is the one that fought MJJ. After the super computer he absorbed. That one would ass rape Hulk. Really... he'd shove his lobster claw through Hulk's anus.

Otherwise, he's been punked badly by lower super heroes.
And if he was at the same level after he took the destruction of a universe as when he fought the heroes... then it sort of contradicts each other.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Besides T-Pain... it really depends what Fury.

IMO, the only Fury that can defeat WWH is the one that fought MJJ. After the super computer he absorbed. That one would ass rape Hulk. Really... he'd shove his lobster claw through Hulk's anus.

Otherwise, he's been punked badly by lower super heroes.
And if he was at the same level after he took the destruction of a universe as when he fought the heroes... then it sort of contradicts each other.

while I agree that it does depend on his level, the one that got punked by the Xmen wasn't the Fury. It was a low level copy made by Jamie Braddock.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
while I agree that it does depend on his level, the one that got punked by the Xmen wasn't the Fury. It was a low level copy made by Jamie Braddock.

Even if it was, he wasn't 'punked', he had to be taken out with a f*cking BLACK HOLE !

I think that kinda says something ? Dont you .

Yeah, that it was a shitty clone. The real Fury would have teleported back.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
while I agree that it does depend on his level, the one that got punked by the Xmen wasn't the Fury. It was a low level copy made by Jamie Braddock. Talking about the original Fury... back in the 80's or whateva.

you mean after he tried dimension porting the first time? Cause the universe getting smashed didn't hurt him. It was when he used his dimensional teleport that he got messed up.

Originally posted by grey fox
Even if it was, he wasn't 'punked', he had to be taken out with a f*cking BLACK HOLE !

I think that kinda says something ? Dont you .

Rachel Summers

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
you mean after he tried dimension porting the first time? Cause the universe getting smashed didn't hurt him. It was when he used his dimensional teleport that he got messed up. That's nice.
*even though that is an assumption, and it's an assumption of what actually hurt him as well*

However, I'm talking about this:
*I'm sure you know about this*
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/DD_11-07.gif
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/DD_11-08.gif
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/DD_11-09.gif
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/DD_11-10.gif

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
you mean after he tried dimension porting the first time? Cause the universe getting smashed didn't hurt him. It was when he used his dimensional teleport that he got messed up.

Jaspers/Fury just got stomped by Exiles

Maybe a fascade by Merlyn

If that's true, Jaspers and Fury remain dead

Who were those guys?

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
That's nice.
*even though that is an assumption,
and it's an assumption of what actually hurt him as well*

"assumption?"

That's not an "assumption" and you know it isn't because we had this debate,
and evidently the Fury resisted the nullification of Time & Space without a scratch.

The Fury off-panel was bombarded with who knows what during his journey from
Reality 238 to the 616 universe.

All kinds of obstacles could've been in his way, gamma explosions, super novas,
quasars, the vacuum of Space itself for such a long period of time,
other universal implosions and lord knows what else.

Remember, the 238 reality is UniverseS away from 616.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
However, I'm talking about this:
*I'm sure you know about this*


That's the end of that little skirmish,
how about the first TEN Pages of that battle,
where Fury was owning all of them?

Fury got confused for a moment because of the Phantom-like Zeit-Geist,
who Fury couldn't detect with its sensors,
Fury was attacked simultaneously while confused, he was slightly vulnerable,
but it was a temporary reprieve, cause Fury came back.

Let's also forget that Fury resisted an Omniversal attack in that skirmish too.


Here's the complete battle, and what went down for real:


Captain Britain - owned:

http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/1167/f1kg3.th.jpg

http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/62/f2qv1.th.jpg

http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/7043/f3ff0.th.jpg
.....................................................................................


Wardog - owned:

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/5101/f4uo8.th.jpg
.....................................................................................


Legion - owned

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/8665/f5pr1.th.jpg
.....................................................................................


Cobweb owned:

http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/163/f6lu8.th.jpg

http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/2364/f7wn8.th.jpg
.....................................................................................


Oxo - owned:

http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/6961/f8db8.th.jpg
.....................................................................................


The Omniversal power of Fascination (aka - Scatterbrain) owned:

http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/428/f9mt8.th.jpg


And Captain Britain, who joined the fight again, and got owned again:

http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/2418/f10iv8.th.jpg
.....................................................................................




continues in the next post:

Finally Zeit-Geist joins the battle:

Zeit is a freakin Abstract being (not as powerful as an Abstract Concept though)

The Fury was registering an attack on its person, but couldn't see it,
bacause Zeit is barely part of any one dimension, he's more wraith-like than Kitty, completely undetectable and can only partly materialize on the physical plane,
so Zeit attacks Fury from the inside out:

http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/4162/f11tb8.th.jpg
.....................................................................................


While the Fury is confused,
the surviving members attack Fury simultaneously,
one of those attacks being Omniversal (Fascination/Scatterbrain)

http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/529/f12wj3.th.jpg
.....................................................................................


Heck, Fascination/Scatterbrain (Omniversal power) plays the biggest role in the attack:

http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/3541/f13ax4.th.jpg

http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/491/f14zx3.th.jpg
.....................................................................................


So they manage to bury Fury under a mini mountain of rocks,
temporarily slowing down the Fury,
who will definitely come back:

http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/1933/f15ek7.th.jpg

Originally posted by Mr Master
"assumption?"

That's not an "assumption" and you know it isn't because we had this debate,
and evidently the Fury resisted the nullification of Time & Space without a scratch.

The Fury off-panel was bombarded with who knows what during his journey from
Reality 238 to the 616 universe.

All kinds of obstacles could've been in his way, gamma explosions, super novas,
quasars, the vacuum of Space itself for such a long period of time,
other universal implosions and lord knows what else.

Remember, the 238 reality is UniverseS away from 616. So... we don't know what hurt him?

Interesting...

So, wouldn't it be an "assumption" by saying he could have been hurt by this and that.


Originally posted by Mr Master
That's the end of that little skirmish,
how about the first TEN Pages of that battle,
where Fury was owning all of them?

Fury got confused for a moment because of the Phantom-like Zeit-Geist,
who Fury couldn't detect with its sensors,
Fury was attacked simultaneously while confused, he was slightly vulnerable,
but it was a temporary reprieve, cause Fury came back.

Let's also forget that Fury resisted an Omniversal attack in that skirmish too.
It's obvious he was owning them (or Britain I guess), and in the first page I showed, he took Britain out.
However, I only saved up to that point in my Photobucket however many months ago. So I don't have the first part.

I have no idea how tough Zeit-Geist is, and I have no idea who he is (or any of those heroes for that matter). I just assume he's like Kitty.

On that topic, what the hell does Scatterbrain do that makes her omniversal?

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
it really depends what Fury.

Imo, either Fury kills Hulk.

Hulk won't have the specific circumstances at his disposal that will duplicate
or even imitate the scenerio where Fury got temporarily owned by heroes,
One of which is an Abstract being, and another who can affect beings on an Omniversal scale.

The Hulk of reality 238 got killed by Fury,
I know it's not the same thing, just mentioning it.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Otherwise, he's been punked badly by lower super heroes.
And if he was at the same level after he took the destruction of a universe as when he fought the heroes... then it sort of contradicts each other.

I have to disagree cause the setting isn't that black & white.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
So... we don't know what hurt him?

We don't.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Interesting...

So, wouldn't it be an "assumption" by saying he could have been hurt by this and that.

Nah, cause it had to be something,
and we atleast know for sure
that it was not the nullification of 238 that harmed him one bit.

So what else is left?

The journey, I mean that's what's stated on panel anyway,

http://img376.imageshack.us/img376/5505/j2sa4.th.jpg

"it's journey was not pleasant"

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
It's obvious he was owning them (or Britain I guess),

and in the first page I showed, he took Britain out.

He owned Britain twice,
killed Two of them
and owned everyone else with the exception of Zeit (the Abstract cat)

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
However, I only saved up to that point in my Photobucket however many months ago.
So I don't have the first part.

If you have iChat or AIM I can send you those b.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
I have no idea how tough Zeit-Geist is,
and I have no idea who he is (or any of those heroes for that matter).
I just assume he's like Kitty.

From his bio:

Powers/Abilities:

"Zeitgeist exists in the physical plain in only the most abstract sense.
He apparently materializes from some other dimension,
likely a pocket of Limbo, as need be.
He can pass through solid matter with minimal effort and is indetectable
by virtually all forms of mechanical, computerized, or energy scanning.
With a thought, Zeitgeist can physically materialize as much as need be,
in order to physically contact objects or beings.
He can solidify all or any portion of his body.
By partially materializing within solid matter he can cause great physical pain,
destroy matter, and/or disrupt computerized systems.
His physical form is not subject to normal injury
and can reform even after being shredded."

This cat is ill.


Zeit is no joke,
despite the use of numerous means of detection by the Fury,
Fury wasn't able to register Zeit's presence, Fury became temporarily disoriented,
then when Fury got jumped by Zeit, Scatterbrain and the rest,
he was temporarily owned.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
On that topic, what the hell does Scatterbrain do that makes her omniversal?

Fascination aka Scatterbrain:

http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/7394/scxt9.th.jpg

"And with her touch,
the guard finds his Consciousness
instantly expanded across the Infinite breadth of the Omniverse"

Originally posted by Mr Master
Imo, either Fury kills Hulk.

Hulk won't have the specific circumstances at his disposal that will duplicate
or even imitate the scenerio where Fury got temporarily owned by heroes,
One of which is an Abstract being, and another who can affect beings on an Omniversal scale.

The Hulk of reality 238 got killed by Fury,
I know it's not the same thing, just mentioning it. Even if he does kill him, it won't happen soon. I mean, Britain took some punishment from him for a little bit, and WWH>>>>>>>>>Britain.

Fury's hard to compare to other beings IMO.
Even if Hulk can't win, I think he can do fine, unless it's the one that beat Jaspers.

Seemed like phasing... and plus, I'm not sure how powerful Scatterbrain's blasts are.

I don't really recall that... either that, or I didn't read the story.



Originally posted by Mr Master
I have to disagree cause the setting isn't that black & white. Still though, does their attacks>>>>the destruction of a universe?

I mean, after Fury got ruffed up a bit... he was put through a rock...



Originally posted by Mr Master
We don't.



Nah, cause it had to be something,
and we atleast know for sure
that it was not the nullification of 238 that harmed him one bit.

So what else is left?

The journey, I mean that's what's stated on panel anyway,

http://img376.imageshack.us/img376/5505/j2sa4.th.jpg

"it's journey was not pleasant" Still assuming, isn't it?

I said it's an assumption of what actually hurt him, and that still holds true. We don't know if it was a kitten, or even Jesus. If we don't know, then what does that make it when we try to say what hurt him?


Originally posted by Mr Master
If you have iChat or AIM I can send you those b.
I have/had them... in black and white. Just didn't put the whole fight in my Photobucket however many months ago.



Originally posted by Mr Master
From his bio:

Powers/Abilities:

"Zeitgeist exists in the physical plain in only the most abstract sense.
He apparently materializes from some other dimension,
likely a pocket of Limbo, as need be.
He can pass through solid matter with minimal effort and is indetectable
by virtually all forms of mechanical, computerized, or energy scanning.
With a thought, Zeitgeist can physically materialize as much as need be,
in order to physically contact objects or beings.
He can solidify all or any portion of his body.
By partially materializing within solid matter he can cause great physical pain,
destroy matter, and/or disrupt computerized systems.
His physical form is not subject to normal injury
and can reform even after being shredded."

This cat is ill.


Zeit is no joke,
despite the use of numerous means of detection by the Fury,
Fury wasn't able to register Zeit's presence, Fury became temporarily disoriented,
then when Fury got jumped by Zeit, Scatterbrain and the rest,
he was temporarily owned. He sounds a lot like Martian Manhunter in the phasing sense...



Originally posted by Mr Master
Fascination aka Scatterbrain:

http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/7394/scxt9.th.jpg

"And with her touch,
the guard finds his Consciousness
instantly expanded across the Infinite breadth of the Omniverse" Ah... does that mean her beams are that powerful though? I mean, it seems her main power from that scan, comes from scattering people's brains throughout the omniverse.

I mean, she seemed as powerful as Britain... not to say Britain isn't powerful (he's got the upper hand on omniversal beings as well), but still, Britain is no Huc.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
I have no idea how tough Zeit-Geist is, and I have no idea who he is

Spirit of the Age. Not a good marriage partner.

Please, do not confront Master on the crazy statements he makes. He will just throw a thousand scans up on here, keep making the same crazy statements over and over, and get rude and insulting.

No, Scatterbrain and Fascination are not "omniversal" in power stature.
Regardless of where the guards mind was sent.

Yes, geist is just like the Vision, Darkoth and any number of other characters. He is not an abstract entity by any stretch of the imagination.

He is just a ghost-dude from another dimension.

Anyway...

Wouldn't this be current Fury? And only one of them?

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Even if he does kill him, it won't happen soon. I mean, Britain took some punishment from him for a little bit, and WWH>>>>>>>>>Britain.

He might last a little while but not cause of Britain's performance,
Brian got owned immediately.

In this particular fight, one blow both times.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Fury's hard to compare to other beings IMO.
Even if Hulk can't win, I think he can do fine, unless it's the one that beat Jaspers.

Imo, upgrade Fury wins immediately,
former Fury wins after a short while.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Seemed like phasing...

It's more than that. The Zeit is like a Phantom,
in fact,
Zeitgeist is literally translated as "Time Ghost."
It is more loosely translated to mean "Spirit of the Times."
According to his bio.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
and plus,
I'm not sure how powerful Scatterbrain's blasts are.

She used her omniversal power on him right before Zeit jumped in,
she also touch the concentration of power the second time around.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
I don't really recall that... either that, or I didn't read the story.

The 238 Universe was a mirror alternate reality of 616.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Still though, does their attacks>>>>the destruction of a universe?

I mean, after Fury got ruffed up a bit... he was put through a rock...

I'm sure Scatterbrain did a good amount of damage
when she sunk her fingers into Fury's head,
but for the most part, (aside from her)
their attacks meant nothing until Zeit confused Fury,
then they attacked as one.

Still though, Fury wasn't beaten, only temporarily stalled.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Still assuming, isn't it?

I said it's an assumption of what actually hurt him, and that still holds true. We don't know if it was a kitten, or even Jesus. If we don't know, then what does that make it when we try to say what hurt him?

I never said I knew excatly what hurt him,
only that it was surely the journey from 238 to 616.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
I have/had them... in black and white. Just didn't put the whole fight in my Photobucket however many months ago.

Cool.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Ah... does that mean her beams are that powerful though?
I mean, it seems her main power from that scan,
comes from scattering people's brains throughout the omniverse.

Like I said, she dug her fingers into Fury head right before Zeit joined the fight.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
I mean, she seemed as powerful as Britain...

She's tougher than Brian:


Here they both get attacked by Fury in the same manner:

http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/9172/fanjc2.th.jpg


Scatterbrain comes back fresh,
while Brian is still dizzy:

http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/2674/fan3gb7.th.jpg

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
not to say Britain isn't powerful (he's got the upper hand on omniversal beings as well),

I agree he's powerful, but taking on omniversal beings?

During his status as the Crosstime guardian, he was upgraded it seemed.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
but still, Britain is no Huc.

I would've like to see what Brian from X-Men #462 was capable of.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Anyway...

Wouldn't this be current Fury? And only one of them?

Until the "Die by the Sword" arc is finished,
I can't really comment with confidence on this new Fury.

There are questions lingering, that will hopefully be answered soon.

Originally posted by Mr Master
He might last a little while but not cause of Britain's performance,
Brian got owned immediately.

In this particular fight, one blow both times.
So, why would he last a while?

Are you saying he would one-shot Hulk?
Talking about the one that fought the heroes.

Because Fury definitely isn't at Jaspers beating levels going by forum rules in this thread... in fact, he'd be at "I just got my head ripped off and was owned by a chick" levels.



Originally posted by Mr Master
Imo, upgrade Fury wins immediately,
former Fury wins after a short while. By upgrade, you mean the one that fought Jaspers? Ya, I'm not arguing that.



Originally posted by Mr Master
It's more than that. The Zeit is like a Phantom,
in fact,
Zeitgeist is literally translated as "Time Ghost."
It is more loosely translated to mean "Spirit of the Times."
According to his bio. So, because his name means something, that means he did more than phasing?

Intriguing...



Originally posted by Mr Master
She used her omniversal power on him right before Zeit jumped in,
she also touch the concentration of power the second time around. Ya... that didn't work, as Fury adapted.

I'm asking how powerful her beams are.



Originally posted by Mr Master
The 238 Universe was a mirror alternate reality of 616. Uh... huh...



Originally posted by Mr Master
I'm sure Scatterbrain did a good amount of damage
when she sunk her fingers into Fury's head,
but for the most part, (aside from her)
their attacks meant nothing until Zeit confused Fury,
then they attacked as one.

Still though, Fury wasn't beaten, only temporarily stalled.
He moved his consciousness, so it wouldn't work...


That's like saying someone who got KO'ed wasn't beaten, only temporarily stalled...


Originally posted by Mr Master
Like I said, she dug her fingers into Fury head right before Zeit joined the fight.
But that doesn't tell me how powerful her beams are...


Originally posted by Mr Master
She's tougher than Brian:


Here they both get attacked by Fury in the same manner:

http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/9172/fanjc2.th.jpg


Scatterbrain comes back fresh,
while Brian is still dizzy:

http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/2674/fan3gb7.th.jpg
Brian got attacked later, and got hit harder and more times...
Plus he's either dizzy, or he's blinded by the light...



Originally posted by Mr Master
I agree he's powerful, but taking on omniversal beings?

During his status as the Crosstime guardian, he was upgraded it seemed. Well, he's done this...
Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Excalibur 47:
Pawns a bunch of guards set to guard Roma (Omniversal guard), and Saturnyne.
http://images6.theimagehosting.com/albums/22776/Excalibur 47_p12.th.jpg

http://images6.theimagehosting.com/albums/22776/Excalibur 47_p13.th.jpg

With just his fingers, he bends Saturnyne's gun.
http://images6.theimagehosting.com/albums/22776/Excalibur 47_p17.th.jpg

Wrecks shit up in the Roma's Starlight Citadel (Omniversal place).
http://images6.theimagehosting.com/albums/22776/Excalibur 47_p18.th.jpg

It seems like he could have punched S out there...


Originally posted by Mr Master
I would've like to see what Brian from X-Men #462 was capable of. 462... 462... is that the one where he was punching Phoenix around?

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
So, why would he last a while?

He would, a little while.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Are you saying he would one-shot Hulk?
Talking about the one that fought the heroes.

Nah, just kill him after a short struggle.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Because Fury definitely isn't at Jaspers beating levels going by forum rules in this thread... in fact, he'd be at "I just got my head ripped off and was owned by a chick" levels.

"head ripped off?" ... "owned by chick?"

I have no idea what you're talking about.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
So, because his name means something, that means he did more than phasing?

Intriguing...

Humor, I recognize it.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Ya... that didn't work, as Fury adapted.

I'm asking how powerful her beams are.

I'm not sure,
but that's inconsequential because she dug her fingers in Fury's head
right before the simultaneous attack by the team, Zeit and herself.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Uh... huh...

Yep.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
He moved his consciousness, so it wouldn't work...

That's like saying someone who got KO'ed wasn't beaten, only temporarily stalled...

Only Fury wasn't knocked out.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
But that doesn't tell me how powerful her beams are...

She attacked Fury with beams, but she also exercised her omniversal power.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Brian got attacked later, and got hit harder and more times...

Plus he's either dizzy, or he's blinded by the light...

Negative, Brian didn't get attacked later before Fury was momentarily buried,
and you have no proof that Brian was hit harder either.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Well, he's done this...

1. Those guards are a joke, I don't know why they even put them there.
2. He bent Sat's gun, doesn't mean anything.
3. He didn't wreck shit up,
he only kicked and broke one of the many chess boards Roma uses.
Those chessboards are meaningless without Roma's touch.

Do you really think if that chessboard had significance in relation to Reality,
that would've been allowed?

I don't consider this taking on Omniversal powers.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
It seems like he could have punched S out there...

Brian is tougher than Saturnyne.

Atleast he was, I'm not sure where's he at at this point.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
462... 462... is that the one where he was punching Phoenix around?

He got jumped by Sat's elite team, he owned them all.
This was much more impressing than those paper guards.

Sat punched him dead in the grill, he didn't even flinch.

Originally posted by Mr Master
He would, a little while. Like I said, "why?".

Following your logic, Fury should kill him in the first shot.
So, why would Hulk last a second?



Originally posted by Mr Master
Nah, just kill him after a short struggle.
Uh-huh...


Originally posted by Mr Master
"head ripped off?" ... "owned by chick?"

I have no idea what you're talking about. Die by Sword.



Originally posted by Mr Master
I'm not sure,
but that's inconsequential because she dug her fingers in Fury's head
right before the simultaneous attack by the team, Zeit and herself. But her power is omniversal (responding to this basically).
Originally posted by Mr Master
.....................................................................................


Heck, Fascination/Scatterbrain (Omniversal power) plays the biggest role in the attack:

http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/3541/f13ax4.th.jpg

http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/491/f14zx3.th.jpg
.....................................................................................


And right there, she fired blasts, and helped Brian put Fury down through the ground.

I'm curious as to why she's being called omniversal, if she isn't "scattering brains".




Originally posted by Mr Master
Only Fury wasn't knocked out.

Anyway, was Fury not taken down by those beings?

Would doing what those heroes did to Fury not count as being "beat"?


Originally posted by Mr Master
She attacked Fury with beams, but she also exercised her omniversal power. When?

Because the only time she exercised her "omniversal" power, was when she tried to scatter Fury's brains.

What have her beams done to exercise omniversal power?



Originally posted by Mr Master
Negative, Brian didn't get attacked later before Fury was momentarily buried,
and you have no proof that Brian was hit harder either.
Brian was attacked on the same page Scatts was... but later in the page.

Well, he only b*tchslapped Scats and stomped on her head...
As compared to being elbowed in the guy, punched across the chin, and then smashed into the ground...

Brian's beating seemed worse...


Originally posted by Mr Master
1. Those guards are a joke, I don't know why they even put them there.
2. He bent Sat's gun, doesn't mean anything.
3. He didn't wreck shit up,
he only kicked and broke one of the many chess boards Roma uses.
Those chessboards are meaningless without Roma's touch.

Do you really think if that chessboard had significance in relation to Reality,
that would've been allowed?

I don't consider this taking on Omniversal powers. OK.



Originally posted by Mr Master
Brian is tougher than Saturnyne.

Atleast he was, I'm not sure where's he at at this point.
So... Brian is/was tougher than Saturnyne who is under my understanding... omniversal. Am I correct?

If I am, then that is my main point.

Brian... who is about Wonderman level, is tougher than an omniversal being... imagine that.



Originally posted by Mr Master
He got jumped by Sat's elite team, he owned them all.
This was much more impressing than those paper guards.

Sat pounched him dead in the grill, he didn't even flinch. Sexcellent.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist


Because Fury definitely isn't at Jaspers beating levels going by forum rules in this thread... in fact, he'd be at "I just got my head ripped off and was owned by a chick" levels.







I assume you Mean after Captain UK pwned fury. Yeah there were pretty lucky circumstances their. The fury was VERY VERY VERY Weak after fighting and killing Jaspers.

Originally posted by grey fox
I assume you Mean after Captain UK pwned fury. Yeah there were pretty lucky circumstances their. The fury was VERY VERY VERY Weak after fighting and killing Jaspers. X-Men: Die By Sword #3.

It's the book you made a thread about yesterday or so...

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
while I agree that it does depend on his level, the one that got punked by the Xmen wasn't the Fury. It was a low level copy made by Jamie Braddock. Even the ones that MJJ is making NOW -- aren't much to talk about, imo.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Like I said, "why?".

Following your logic, Fury should kill him in the first shot.
So, why would Hulk last a second?

I don't see how following my logic leads one to believe I think Fury one shots him.

My thought is simple. Fury wins in both cases.
Obviously after the upgrade, he would win far quicker.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Uh-huh...

Right.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Die by Sword.

Yea well, unfortunately those Furys in "Die by the Sword" are not like classic Fury,
and as you know, even the first page of "Die by the Sword" #3 says so:

http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/7496/jjcw3.th.jpg

"One wears the Face & Form & memories of James Jaspers,
his companions wear the Form ... of the entity called Fury,

Neither of them is precisely what they seem,

but that revelation is for another time"
.............................................................................................................

Let's not compare the two shall we, until further info is released.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
But her power is omniversal (responding to this basically).

We know her touch can reel you consciousness across creation and back.
So in that respect, yea.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
And right there, she fired blasts, and helped Brian put Fury down through the ground.

I'm curious as to why she's being called omniversal, if she isn't "scattering brains".

Oh I see, you thought I was sayin she was exercising omniversal power cause she's in the scene,
nah, I'm just giving her, her do respect, if that confused, my bad.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Anyway, was Fury not taken down by those beings?

Would doing what those heroes did to Fury not count as being "beat"?

I always thought "beat" was when you can't get back up.

But I guess I'll give you that one, perhaps per forum rules it would count as a loss.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist

When?

Because the only time she exercised her "omniversal" power, was when she tried to scatter Fury's brains.

What have her beams done to exercise omniversal power?

That's what I said.

And I never said her beams have omniversal power.

I'll look into how potent her beams are, I can assure you.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Brian was attacked on the same page Scatts was... but later in the page.

Later in the page Fury nothing more happened to Brian.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Well, he only b*tchslapped Scats and stomped on her head...
As compared to being elbowed in the guy, punched across the chin, and then smashed into the ground...
Brian's beating seemed worse...

One of those "b*tchslaps" killed Oxo,

Imo, there's not much of a difference.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
So... Brian is/was tougher than Saturnyne who is under my understanding... omniversal. Am I correct?

Omniversal in was respect?

Saturnyne can't wave a hand and sunder Universes, or even a universe.

In fact, Sat has no real powers at all:

http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/2982/satzf7.th.jpg

Her thing is all Tech.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
If I am, then that is my main point.

Brian... who is about Wonderman level, is tougher than an omniversal being... imagine that.

If you knew about Saturnyne,
you wouldn't be using this silly sarcasm b.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Sexcellent.

This was actually funny.

If its written in WWH, Hulk wins

Foundsit.

Originally posted by Mr Master
I don't see how following my logic leads one to believe I think Fury one shots him.

My thought is simple. Fury wins in both cases.
Obviously after the upgrade, he would win far quicker. Well, it sounded like you meant that Hulk wouldn't put up any fight against Fury.


Like we've seen the sort of stuff Hulk has taken, but what exactly has Fury done that makes me believe he can easily beat Hulk (besides the obvious of course, do I need to extend on this, because I feel like I'll have to end up explaining what I meant anyway...)?


Originally posted by Mr Master
Yea well, unfortunately those Furys in "Die by the Sword" are not like classic Fury,
and as you know, even the first page of "Die by the Sword" #3 says so:

http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/7496/jjcw3.th.jpg

"One wears the Face & Form & memories of James Jaspers,
his companions wear the Form ... of the entity called Fury,

Neither of them is precisely what they seem,

but that revelation is for another time"
.............................................................................................................

Let's not compare the two shall we, until further info is released. Shouldn't we also have to wait until 'Die by Sword' ends before you can pass that erroneous scan off as fact?
Plus, even if 'Die by Sword' does end, and that scan is never extended on... how long can you hold onto that scan as proof?

Unfortunately, it works both ways.

Also, I'm not saying the scan is right or wrong... but right now, we are led to believe that that is Jaspers, and that is Fury... Is it wrong to follow that?
And if I'm led to believe that both are the real deal, I'd rather follow that, then an implication.

Of course, the implication could be right of course, and it wouldn't matter much to me.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Oh I see, you thought I was sayin she was exercising omniversal power cause she's in the scene,
nah, I'm just giving her, her do respect, if that confused, my bad.

"Heck, Fascination/Scatterbrain (Omniversal power) plays the biggest role in the attack:"

Certainly lead me to believe her beams were omniversal...


Originally posted by Mr Master
I always thought "beat" was when you can't get back up.

But I guess I'll give you that one, perhaps per forum rules it would count as a loss. So, you thought "beat" was either killed, or paralyzed (can't get up)? Um...



Originally posted by Mr Master
That's what I said.

And I never said her beams have omniversal power.

I'll look into how potent her beams are, I can assure you. Well, you said that Scatterbrain did the most, and Fury stood up to omniversal power when she attacked with others...

Certainly would lead most to believe she's omniversal...



Originally posted by Mr Master
Later in the page Fury nothing more happened to Brian. Eh?



Originally posted by Mr Master
One of those "b*tchslaps" killed Oxo,

Imo, there's not much of a difference. So, a backhand slap basically is not much different than a swing?



Originally posted by Mr Master
Omniversal in was respect?

Saturnyne can't wave a hand and sunder Universes, or even a universe.

In fact, Sat has no real powers at all:

http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/2982/satzf7.th.jpg

Her thing is all Tech.
Just going by what she is considered.

Roma's Omniversal, and I've never seen her destroy a universe with the wave of her hand. Baring Celestial Nullifier.

So, power makes one Omniversal?
Because if you can tell, I really care little about how powerful a character has to be to earn it's rank.

Also, is Sat considered Omniversal, or not? Because in comics...

Originally posted by guy222
If its written in WWH, Hulk wins You are a ****ing retard.

Originally posted by Mak02
You are a ****ing retard.

Guy's right.

If written by Pak, the Fury would lose.

Yeah but I hate him anyway.

But to be fair pre-crisis Supes would lsoe if Pak wrote it.

The Fury destroys Hulk.

Originally posted by Mak02
You are a ****ing retard.

Reported

He'll be banned

galan_furystomps

WWH 10/10.

Originally posted by Mak02
Yeah but I hate him anyway.

But to be fair pre-crisis Supes would lsoe if Pak wrote it.

Pak writes the hulk as the hulk should be written. Pak's Hulk is The Hulk, he's not another char.

OMG, Fury 1,000/10.

I hope you are joking man.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
OMG, Fury 1,000/10.

I hope you are joking man. If you haven't noticed he's Hulk biased he never gives Hulk anything less than 10/10.

Originally posted by iceman24567
If you haven't noticed he's Hulk biased he never gives Hulk anything less than 10/10. I'm kinda new so no I haven't noticed, and judging by his sig he prolly thinks Hulk smashing Thanos' head is canon too right?

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
I'm kinda new so no I haven't noticed, and judging by his sig he prolly thinks Hulk smashing Thanos' head is canon too right? He used it as "proof" that Hulk would beat Thanos. He also used the What if when Black Bolt killed Dr. Strange and The Sentry with his voice as proof that Hulk is uber.

Originally posted by iceman24567
He used it as "proof" that Hulk would beat Thanos. He also used the What if when Black Bolt killed Dr. Strange and The Sentry with his voice as proof that Hulk is uber. The Thanos thing happened in Marvel Zombies did it not?

As for the What If, Strange and Sentry were able to smack WWH around...so wouldn't that hurt his argument?

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
The Thanos thing happened in Marvel Zombies did it not?

As for the What If, Strange and Sentry were able to smack WWH around...so wouldn't that hurt his argument? He doesn't care i guess and yes it was Marvel Zombies.