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Who wins this fight?

IMO Wesker, he is faster, as strong, has H2H skills himself, and has a healing factor if memory serves me right.

Wesker beat the crap out of Chris in Code Veronica X. All Wesker has to do is probably break Johnny's shades and that'll set Mr. Cage off. One Nutcracker and Decap Upper later, Johnny takes Wesker's shades as a trophy.

The no-talent ass clown gets his face beaten in by Wesker.

Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk
The no-talent ass clown gets his face beaten in by Wesker.

That no-talent ass clown can do some massive damage in Mortal Kombat II...so long as the opponents were male.

Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk
The no-talent ass clown gets his face beaten in by Wesker.

I lol'ed.

wesker wins all he has to do is cap johnny cages ass with his colt 45 1911 pistol

Originally posted by kwon_ji_hae
wesker wins all he has to do is cap johnny cages ass with his colt 45 1911 pistol

I'm talking about the updated version of Wesker seen in Resident Evil: Code Veronica.

He doesn't use any guns.

I hate Johnny Cage! He is such a loser man, such a loser!

Albert Wesker for the win, he's already dead.

QFT!

Personal bias FTL!

Since it's the version of Wesker without guns batdude's talkin' about, I'm gonna have to go with Cage.

Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk
QFT!

Yet, you didn't quote her.

Anyway, Johnny Cage would win this.

Wesker would win.

Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
Personal bias FTL!

Indeed. That seems to be what everyone here is doing.

I'd take Johnny in this fight.

Wesker was extremely fast, strong, and agile. There's no denying that. He was toying with Chris and Claire like they were nothing. However, Johnny regularly fights gods and beings with mystical powers. Plus, he has the shadow kick and his plasma balls.

Wesker is named after Capcom's mascots main villain.

Albert Wily
Albert Wesker

also have a W for the first initial of their last name.

Johnny Cage would defeat him.

Nope. Too slow.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Nope. Too slow.

Wesker displayed some amazing reflexes when Chris dumped that pile of steel frames on top of him.

Johnny has the tools to win this. Energy projection + better fighting abilities.

And Cage is absolutely fast enough to land hits on Wesker.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Nope. Too slow.

You're only saying that because you think all Mortal Kombat characters are slow.

Originally posted by Yoshi Paradise
You're only saying that because you think all Mortal Kombat characters are slow.

Is this true? http://images.killermovies.com/forums/user_sigs/7/1/customsig_95971_F1.gif

Originally posted by batdude123
Indeed. That seems to be what everyone here is doing.

I'd take Johnny in this fight.

Wesker was extremely fast, strong, and agile. There's no denying that. He was toying with Chris and Claire like they were nothing. However, Johnny regularly fights gods and beings with mystical powers. Plus, he has the shadow kick and his plasma balls.
Agreed.

Quoted for freakin' truth (notice Blax that I'm actually quoting the user I say that to ).

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Nope. Too slow.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=470059&pagenumber=3



MK characters may punch or kick slower in cut-scenes (most likely done by Midway for cinematic appeal), but they're not in any way, 'slow' during the gameplay, and that's what matters most, not the cut-scenes which are only a very small part of the games.

So saying "too slow" in like every VS thread involving an MK character is just retarded.

Originally posted by batdude123
Is this true? http://images.killermovies.com/forums/user_sigs/7/1/customsig_95971_F1.gif
Yes, because he said it himself.

Originally posted by Yoshi Paradise
Yes, because he said it himself.

What a choch.

Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=470059&pagenumber=3



MK characters may punch or kick slower in cut-scenes (most likely done by Midway for cinematic appeal), but they're not in any way, 'slow' during the gameplay, and that's what matters most, not the cut-scenes which are only a very small part of the games.

So saying "too slow" in like every VS thread involving an MK character is just retarded. Lol, cutscenes>>>>>>>>>>gameplay for canon information. Watch the Armageddon intro...is any part of what the characters are doing that fast? Wesker is MUCH faster.

Originally posted by batdude123
What a choch.

In fact, he said it in almost every vs thread that involved a character from the Mortal Kombat franchise.

Originally posted by Yoshi Paradise
In fact, he said it in almost every vs thread that involved a character from the Mortal Kombat franchise. That's because they are slow.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
That's because they are slow.

You're a choch.

Originally posted by batdude123
You're a choch. They ARE slow.

Originally posted by Yoshi Paradise
Yet, you didn't quote her.


That was the point, people

And Johnny Cage doesn't have any exceptional feats. He's low tier in the Mortal Kombat world, with or without my personal bas toward the man. And Rideply Prime I don't know what the fvck your smoking, but cutscenes ALWAYS > Gameplay, in EVERY cirumstance.

Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk
That was the point, people

So, you're saying that she's lying?

No. I was going to ad dinto my signature "Blaxican is so cool that he can quote for truth without actually quoting", but if I do it now people will say I only put it in there to make it look like I made the mistake on purpose.

Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk
No. I was going to ad dinto my signature "Blaxican is so cool that he can quote for truth without actually quoting", but if I do it now people will say I only put it in there to make it look like I made the mistake on purpose.

Why didn't you just quote her in the first place?

So I can put that in my signature in the first place. Confusing and childish, I know.

What...the...f*ck?

I didn't know this kind of thread would attract so many people.

Dang this feels a little like MC vs Samus.

Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk
Confusing and childish, I know.

Agreed.

Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk
So I can put that in my signature in the first place. Confusing and childish, I know. Gimme some soul food nyuuka!

Originally posted by Sado-sama
What...the...f*ck?

I didn't know this kind of thread would attract so many people.

Dang this feels a little like MC vs Samus.

It's only the second page ermm

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
They ARE slow.

Let's compare these two:

When Wesker tried to fight Alexia, he was barely able to dodge the blood flung in his direction. Granted, it was slightly impressive when he started the scale the walls, but he still had trouble dodging the blood. Hell, now that I recall, she did actually hit him with some of her blood. And he seemed to be hurt by the fire emanating from her body. Afterward, he fled so that Chris could fight her. This tells me two things:

1) Johnny Cage is fast enough to hit him with a well placed shadow kick. It's not like Wesker was dodging bullets or any crazy shit like that. And the shadow kick creates the same after effects as Wesker's running. It even says in Cage's bio that he has enhanced reflexes. And why not? The guy rumbles with gods and sorcerers on a normal basis. He has to have some reason as to why he's still alive. Johnny also demonstrates a higher level of fighting skills as well.

2) Cage's plasma balls would play a huge role in this fight. If fire can give Wesker fits, imagine what plasma would be like to him?

The only time AW looked truly impressive to me was when he was fighting Claire and Chris. But the fact of the matter is that Claire and Chris are lame comparisons to Johnny. However, let's recap what happened during Chris and Wesker's last battle of the game:

Al was beating on Redfield for the duration of the fight. Not gonna lie about that one. But, the fight was basically over when Chris pulled the lever that dumped all of the steel girders on top of him (and Wesker had time to get out of the way, but he didn't). It didn't knock him out, but it definitely staggered him. Wesker is fast, sure. But fast enough to the point where Johnny wouldn't be able to land hits? Absolutely not.

Oh, and the fire from the self destruction of the Antarctic facility severely scorched his face. Another red flag in the plasma balls' favor.

Wesker is no doubt cool. I'm not denying that. But you need to put personal bias about MK characters aside. Bottom line: I'm not buying your "too slow" argument as a logical reason for why Wesker would defeat Johnny. If anything, Cage has been much more impressive throughout his history. The only thing I'm hearing here in Wesker's defense is that Johnny is an "ass clown."

Certainly Yoshi, myself, and Ridley aren't the only logical ones here (I hope).

I love MK fyi, they are slow compared to the rest in their genre. I think Wesker wins 1. He is a bit faster. 2. He is strong enough to fight Cage. 3. He does have some fighting skill. I think he wins, not by much tho.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
I love MK fyi, they are slow compared to the rest in their genre. I think Wesker wins 1. He is a bit faster. 2. He is strong enough to fight Cage. 3. He does have some fighting skill. I think he wins, not by much tho.

Fair enough. At least you gave me some reasons.

Still wrong though.

Originally posted by batdude123
Fair enough. At least you gave me some reasons.

Still wrong though. Opinions can't be wrong. Sure, some matches, like Goku vs. Pyron or Pheonix vs. Storm are obvious, this is not one of those matches.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Opinions can't be wrong. Sure, some matches, like Goku vs. Pyron or Pheonix vs. Storm are obvious, this is not one of those matches.

Goku vs Pyron is obvious?

I didn't know that.

I guess Pyron had it coming.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Opinions can't be wrong. Sure, some matches, like Goku vs. Pyron or Pheonix vs. Storm are obvious, this is not one of those matches.

Storm is omniversal in power. You should know that by now.

Originally posted by Yoshi Paradise
Goku vs Pyron is obvious?

I didn't know that.

I guess Pyron had it coming. No, Pyron stomps Goku smartass troll.

Originally posted by batdude123
Storm is omniversal in power. You should know that by now. Oh foolish me.

You didn't have to double-post.

Anyway, it's obvious that Johnny Cage would win this.

He's a fast character.

Originally posted by Ozone
Anyway, it's obvious that Johnny Cage would win this.

He's a fast character. Not as fast as Wesker.

Cutscenes dictate that Johnny Cage is in fact not a fast character.. he may be fast in the the MK universe but MK fighters as a whole are pretty slow.

Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk
Cutscenes dictate that Johnny Cage is in fact not a fast character.. he may be fast in the the MK universe but MK fighters as a whole are pretty slow. EXACTLY! A few like Scorpion are pretty fast, but even his speed pales to other fighting game characters.

ala Ryu and DOA. Hayabusa is a speed demon.

Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk
ala Ryu and DOA. Hayabusa is a speed demon. Yep.

Johnny wins. Nutsack attack FTW.

Cool name.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Lol, cutscenes>>>>>>>>>>gameplay for canon information.
All MK characters being "slow" is not a canon fact or anything though since it's not stated by Midway. Just something you or someone came up with out of speculation by watching the Deadly Alliance, Deception, or Armageddon intro.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Watch the Armageddon intro...is any part of what the characters are doing that fast? Wesker is MUCH faster.
Doing what fast? I have the game, though from what I remember of the intro, Kabal was running with his super speed (shortly after the pyramid arose) if that counts as "fast" by your definition.

Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk
He's low tier in the Mortal Kombat world, with or without my personal bas toward the man.
Low tier huh? Mind posting this "MK tier list" ?

Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk
And Rideply Prime I don't know what the fvck your smoking, but cutscenes ALWAYS > Gameplay, in EVERY cirumstance.
Every circumstance? In that case, might as well not play video games anymore and have cutscenes on youtube be my only way of placing judgement on a character in VS threads.
Oh wait. That's no fun.

By "cutscenes > gameplay" though, if ya'll mean that gameplay can't be used as a way of determining something about a character against another character (like his/her speed), then to hell with that equation.

Originally posted by Sado-sama
Dang this feels a little like MC vs Samus.
It could get worse...

A generic Samus vs Master Chief topic shouldn't require much debating (if any) to determine who would win anyway, unless some people are totally in denial about who would triumph.

Originally posted by batdude123
It even says in Cage's bio that he has enhanced reflexes.
Ah. I forgot it said that in his bio...

In that case, Cage definitely takes the cake.

Originally posted by batdude123
Storm is omniversal in power. You should know that by now.
Heh. Sounds like something 2damnloud would say. I haven't been to the comic VS forum in awhile though, so I don't know/remember if he said that exactly or not, but it wouldn't be in any way surprising if he did.

Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk
Cutscenes dictate that Johnny Cage is in fact not a fast character..
Not fast my ass.

Even if that's true, Cage's speed and reflexes is still enough to handle an unarmed Wesker.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
A few like Scorpion are pretty fast, but even his speed pales to other fighting game characters.
Well that I can agree with , obviously.

(Sorry for the double post. Forgot to reply to this one thing in my previous reply, and it was too late for me to go back and edit it. )

Originally posted by Neo Darkhalen
Wesker is named after Capcom's mascots main villain.

Albert Wily
Albert Wesker

also have a W for the first initial of their last name.

Dr. Wily would get annoyed that Wesker has stolen his name, and send his Robot Masters to destroy him.

No not really. Wesker has a fair fight on his hands here, It depends on the area they fight and if Wesker has access to Umbrella's toys.

I think anyway Wesker would win.

Johnny Cage Wins. Friendship!

Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
I haven't been to the comic VS forum in awhile though, so I don't know/remember if he said that exactly or not, but it wouldn't be in any way surprising if he did.

The arguments that occur in that forum are hilarious.

It's amazing how people would react when someone insults their favorite comic book character.

I go to that forum whenever I need a good laugh.

Originally posted by kwon_ji_hae
wesker wins all he has to do is cap johnny cages ass with his colt 45 1911 pistol he used guns in the last resident evil game re4 for wii and game cube

Arguments over favorite characters is fun, but I am surprised how little people know why Albert Wesker is named well.... Albert Wesker.

I doubt anybody would care.
Originally posted by Mr Dude
Johnny Cage Wins. Friendship!

As if he would want to be friends with that guy.

Very true.

Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
All MK characters being "slow" is not a canon fact or anything though since it's not stated by Midway. Just something you or someone came up with out of speculation by watching the Deadly Alliance, Deception, or Armageddon intro.

Midway doesn't have to go out and say it, that's what feats are for. Since Midway has never stated that if you pump four clips of Assault rifle bullets unto Johnny Cages brain he will die, does that mean that he won't die?




That's an attack. A quick burst of speed. Not overall running speed.




Ask Satsujin, he has the eir listing. But I can ensure you that the top tiers consist of people like Shao Kaon, Lei Kang, Shang Tsung all the big boys.




That's exactly how things work here. If you can not show a canon cutscene or canon scan from a comic to back up your point then your point is false until proven. Gameplay and game mechanics never count. If you don't like it, leave.






As I said before, if you don't like it then leave.

This again?

Originally posted by Yoshi Paradise
The arguments that occur in that forum are hilarious.

It's amazing how people would react when someone insults their favorite comic book character.

I go to that forum whenever I need a good laugh.
Heh. I should do the same.

Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk
Midway doesn't have to go out and say it, that's what feats are for. Since Midway has never stated that if you pump four clips of Assault rifle bullets unto Johnny Cages brain he will die, does that mean that he won't die?
... fine. Ya got me there.

Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk
Ask Satsujin, he has the eir listing.
Very well then.

Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk
That's exactly how things work here. If you can not show a canon cutscene or canon scan from a comic to back up your point then your point is false until proven.
A comic huh? I can think of some MK comics (or parts of them) made by the MK developers that involve Cage to post (that is if I can find 'em on google or something), but do I really need to just to prove he can beat an unarmed Wesker?

Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk
Gameplay and game mechanics never count.
That was never stated in the rules, so I guess you or someone else are making up your own.

The only thing that was said concerning canon and non-canon stuff was "I leave this solely up to the decision of the thread-starter. I do expect people to adhere to the decision made for that particular thread", and as far as this thread goes, batdude never specified whether non-canon stuff could be applied or not.

Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk
If you don't like it, leave.
Me leave KMC? You're out of your mind. It's one of my most favorite places on the freakin' net. I'm never leavin'.

But that doesn't mean I can't dislike certain things about it.

Originally posted by Wandering Flame
This again?
What again?

Whether gameplay mechanics and noncanonical stuff can be used is totally up to the topic starter, so it's essential that match makers be very specific with their rules.

I thought this topic would be on the second page by now.

Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
Heh. I should do the same.


... fine. Ya got me there.


Very well then.


A comic huh? I can think of some MK comics (or parts of them) made by the MK developers that involve Cage to post (that is if I can find 'em on google or something), but do I really need to just to prove he can beat an unarmed Wesker?


That was never stated in the rules, so I guess you or someone else are making up your own.

The only thing that was said concerning canon and non-canon stuff was "I leave this solely up to the decision of the thread-starter. I do expect people to adhere to the decision made for that particular thread", and as far as this thread goes, batdude never specified whether non-canon stuff could be applied or not.


Me leave KMC? You're out of your mind. It's one of my most favorite places on the freakin' net. I'm never leavin'.



Too lazy to quote everything

1.har har!
2.Uh.. dunno.
3. It's more of an implied thing, because in most cases things you can do game mechanics wise, the character either can or can not really do. Example being the fact that in Mortal Kombat in the actual game, when you fight, a character can be frozen by Sub-Zero, but when Sub-Zero punches him the guy doesn't shatter into a million pieces.. the ice just falls off. Yet, when he does his fatality, even though he does the exact same move the outcome is different; the opponent getting fatalities shatters into a million pieces. But fatalities and cutscenes are both more accurate showings of what one can do.

4. Fair enough

yawn

Johnny Cage would still win this, but with difficulty.

Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk
Too lazy to quote everything

1.har har!
2.Uh.. dunno.
3. It's more of an implied thing, because in most cases things you can do game mechanics wise, the character either can or can not really do. Example being the fact that in Mortal Kombat in the actual game, when you fight, a character can be frozen by Sub-Zero, but when Sub-Zero punches him the guy doesn't shatter into a million pieces.. the ice just falls off. Yet, when he does his fatality, even though he does the exact same move the outcome is different; the opponent getting fatalities shatters into a million pieces. But fatalities and cutscenes are both more accurate showings of what one can do.

4. Fair enough
@ #3: Oh, okay... I get it now.
I guess the Sub-zero example's a good enough reason that game mechanics shouldn't be applied unless the thread author says it can , so I'm fine with it now.

Albert Wesker could beat Johnny Cage for several reasons:
1.Albert Wesker has shown healing capabilites like healing burns from his face in a short amount of time. He was also IMPALED in the chest by a tyrant and healed that too.
2.Wesker has shown in Code Veronica RE4 & Umbrella Chronicles that he has abilities that Johnny Cage Doesn't have like jumping over buildings and 90 feet off the ground.
3.Wesker is WAY freaking smarter then Cage, so he could easily outwit him.
4.Wesker has shown that he is skilled in close combat like his Chikyo Kick. As good as Cage is a fighter, he's an actor. Wesker is a professional killer with way better reflexes then Cage's.(Although Johnny's Shadow Kick could match Wesker's Palm Thrust.
and as for that one thing about Wesker having Chris fight Alexia, Wesker left Chris to fight her because he thought she would be too tough for him to beat. So I think that Wesker's one major weakness is his overconfidence and underestimating his opponents.

Just so you all know, it is canon only unless stated otherwise.

Originally posted by batdude123
Johnny regularly fights gods and beings with mystical powers. Plus, he has the shadow kick and his plasma balls.

Johnny doesn't regularly fight gods. The only gods shown so far in the MK universe are Raiden, Fujin, and Shinnok. Raiden and Fujin are Cage's allies so he wouldn't fight him so that leaves only Shinnok who in my opinion sucks. Cage didn't do anything outstanding in MK, he was killed in MK3 and again in Deadly Alliance. Johnny's kick is about the same as Wesker's Palm Thrust, and he could just dodge Cage's plasma balls

Originally posted by batdude123
and his plasma balls.

jawdrop

Those are the green orbs that he used as projectiles.

It was cool how he shot them out.

Oh...i was totally thinking about something else.

Obviously.

Originally posted by Ozone
Obviously.

Yeah Cage has no balls, Scorpian ripped them off with his kunai.

Originally posted by Furion
Yeah Cage has no balls, Scorpian ripped them off with his kunai.

You would know. haermm

Originally posted by Ozone
You would know. haermm

Yeah I would, I watched it on Mortal Kombat Mishaps 2-Scorpian's Misfire.

Originally posted by Furion
Yeah I would, I watched it on Mortal Kombat Mishaps 2-Scorpian's Misfire.

I bet you enjoyed it.

Watching a violent ninja ripping a loser's shrinky-dink off with a weapon that had been made famous. Hells yeah

Originally posted by Furion
Watching a violent ninja ripping a loser's shrinky-dink off with a weapon that had been made famous. Hells yeah

ermm

Oh and if by enjoy you ment laughing my ass off then yes i did enjoy it.

I don't think he meant it that way.

Originally posted by Yoshi Paradise
I don't think he meant it that way.
Well uh of course he didn't mean it that way so that means i didn't enjoy it in the manner of which he speaks of.

Originally posted by Furion
i didn't enjoy it in the manner of which he speaks of.
Sure.

Originally posted by Furion
Oh and if by enjoy you ment laughing my ass off then yes i did enjoy it.

No, I didn't mean it that way.

I bet you did a close-up at the point where it happened.

In fact, you probably took a picture of it.

Originally posted by Ozone
No, I didn't mean it that way.

I bet you did a close-up at the point where it happened.

In fact, you probably took a picture of it.

No I would never ever EVER take a picture of Johnny Cage or anything that might be called a body part ever. Oh and the guy censored it, watch it yourself.

Originally posted by Furion
No I would never ever EVER take a picture of Johnny Cage or anything that might be called a body part ever.

So...does that mean you'll never take a picture of someone's head?

no, just not Johnny Cage's. I hate that Bastard

Originally posted by Furion
no, just not Johnny Cage's. I hate that Bastard

I guess all of your statements about this match are biased since you hate Johnny Cage so much.

No, Johnny Cage just isn't as good a fighter as Wesker is I mean Cage has had his moments. Now Mokap, that's someone to be biased against.

Cage wins.

Not IMO.

*shameless bump*

Apparently I overlooked this post earlier, so I guess I'll reply to it now.

Originally posted by Furion
Raiden and Fujin are Cage's allies so he wouldn't fight him so that leaves only Shinnok who in my opinion sucks.
Not only did Cage fight Shinnok, but he overwhelmed him prior to the events of Armageddon.

And for the record, Shinnok doesn't suck. He had everybody's moves in MK4, and was nearly invincible in MK Mythologies (the Subzero game).

Originally posted by Furion
Cage didn't do anything outstanding in MK
Wiki says otherwise. 31

"Cage's Armageddon bio tells of his worries about the future. Since Liu Kang had died, and Raiden was now following his own personal agenda, the warriors who have long battled against the forces of darkness didn't seem to have a leader anymore. Some time later, Cage began to receive visions of Shinnok, who was coming up with a plan and giving commands to his minions. Cage decided to find out what was going on, by visiting the locations that he saw in his visions. He found evidence that Shinnok had been to these places, and eventually found Shinnok himself at Shang Tsung's island fortress. Communicating via a portal, Shinnok was speaking to Quan Chi, commanding him to gather their forces and take control of Shao Kahn's Outworld fortress. Once the portal disappeared, Cage approached Shinnok, and the former Elder God attempted to use his powers against him. Cage evaded Shinnok's attacks, and even managed to overpower him. Shinnok retreated by vanishing in a cloud of smoke. Now that Cage knew something about Shinnok's schemes, and with no-one else to lead an assault, he took it upon himself to gather his allies and plan a course of action."

A God running away from the "no-talent as clown" ? That's something outstanding.
Plus, Cage pretty much became the new "team leader" due to Raiden's corruption. Yet another outstanding fact for the man.

Originally posted by Furion
he was killed in MK3
He wasn't even in MK3...

Originally posted by Furion
and again in Deadly Alliance.
So was basically every other good guy (Liu Kang got killed by the Deadly Alliance, Kitana got killed by Quan Chi, Kung Lao got killed by Shang Tsung, etc)...

Originally posted by Furion
Johnny's kick is about the same as Wesker's Palm Thrust
That kinda depends on what version of the Shadow Kick you're talkin' about. In MK2, MK4, and what not, the red Shadow Kick is more powerful than the green Shadow Kick, but his Shadow Uppercut is more effective than either of those kicks. I'd like to see Wesker's Palm Thrust match that.

Can't believe no one even pointed out those moves in support of Cage earlier.

Originally posted by Furion
Yeah Cage has no balls, Scorpian ripped them off with his kunai.
No he didn't.

2McbQrH0qI0

And the MK Mishaps are total crap compared to the actual movie.

Oh please for the love of god, don't bring Mythologies into this, that game sucked hard. Shinnok sucks personally in Armaggedon. If Cage could overpower Shinnok, then alot of other people could who are WAY superior then Cage like Scorpion, Subzero, Noob, ect could. In MKtrilogy, it states Cage was killed by extermentation squads before it started but came back to life by magic or something.
In RE4, Wesker's Palmthrust is instant kill on anything cept the bella sisters. It wouldn't likely kill Cage with one hit, but would still send him flying.

how the hell was Cage the new team leader? Shujinko or Bo Rai Cho or Subzero was new team leader I think. Plus Raiden only got pissed off at people. Raiden in Armaggedon pretended to help evil dudes then he was going to waste those bastards

I love how you're starting to use my word now, RP.

johnny Cage tries to Shadow Kick Wesker, Wesker jumps over Cage, grabs him by the neck, grabs Cage's Sunglasses and crunches them up and then sticks the shards in Cage's eyes. Wesker>>>>>>Cage

Originally posted by Furion
Oh please for the love of god, don't bring Mythologies into this, that game sucked hard.
Opinion.

Mythologies' storyline is canon to the series regardless of what you think about it (which took place just before MK1 of course), and so it's still eligible to bring up.

Originally posted by Furion
Shinnok sucks personally in Armaggedon.
Just because he wasn't as overall powerful in Armageddon (since he didn't have the amulet) as he was in Mythologies and MK4 doesn't mean he sucks. He's still a formidable fighter in MKA, and quite easy to become skilled with, unlike the other characters that truly suck, like Drahmin, Frost, or Nitara.

Originally posted by Furion
If Cage could overpower Shinnok, then alot of other people could who are WAY superior then Cage like Scorpion, Subzero, Noob, ect could.
Not necessarily. Shinnok's so powerful that even Taven and Daegon respect him, as we see in Armageddon's Konquest mode, and the 2 Edenian brothers are far more powerful than those ninjas you mentioned. They're half-God after all.

All and all, Cage single-handedly overwhelmed Shinnok, a former Elder God who poses a far greater threat to the realms than Scorpion, Subzero, or Noob Saibot ever could.

Originally posted by Furion
In MKtrilogy, it states Cage was killed by extermentation squads before it started but came back to life by magic or something.
Raiden's handy work.

Originally posted by Furion
It wouldn't likely kill Cage with one hit, but would still send him flying.
Yes. it would send Cage flying... if he just stood there like an idiot, allowing himself to get hit, but Cage is smarter than that. As the paragraph I posted from Cage's wiki article states, Johnny evaded Shinnok's attacks. If Cage can dodge a God's attacks, he can dodge Wesker's palm thrust too.

Originally posted by Furion
Shujinko or Bo Rai Cho or Subzero was new team leader I think.
Bo Rai Cho was only a team leader in Deception, where he led the team against Outworld's Tarkattan hordes. Cho didn't have that kind of role in Armageddon.

As for Shujinko, he seems to be independant from the rest of those guys, and Subzero only leads the Lin Kuei.

Originally posted by Furion
Plus Raiden only got pissed off at people.
More than just pissed off. His entire soul became corrupted ever since he sacrificed himself against the Dragon King (Deception intro).

Originally posted by Furion
Raiden in Armaggedon pretended to help evil dudes then he was going to waste those bastards
Was Raiden "pretending" when he tried to kill Taven? No. Raiden sided with Shao Kahn. He's a traitor now.

Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk
I love how you're starting to use my word now, RP.


Originally posted by Furion
johnny Cage tries to Shadow Kick Wesker, Wesker jumps over Cage, grabs him by the neck, grabs Cage's Sunglasses and crunches them up and then sticks the shards in Cage's eyes.
Well, I guess that goes to show that Cage's and Wesker's battle could go either way.

Originally posted by Furion
Wesker>>>>>>Cage
*sigh*
Your hatred for Cage knows no bounds.

1.No, the only really good Adventure MK Game is Shaolin Monks.
2.Drahmin and Nitara I find can be kinda powerful if you use them right.
3.The only reason Taven respected him is because he didn't know he was cast out of the Elder Gods, and Daegon needed Shinnok to become powerful. Scorpion>>Shinnok.
4.How fast are Shinnok's Attacks, I don't think they're as fast as Thrust Punch.
5.They didn't really focus on Story things in Armaggedon. Just Taven's Crap and you never See Bo'Rai'Cho in Konquest.
6.Raiden got pissed off because The people of Earthrealm were treating their realm like crap and because Shujinko collected the Kamidogu for Onaga.
7.I don't really think Raiden would turn from Earth Protector to Traitor just like that. Raiden is not stupid you know, He only accepted Shinnok's Offer to find out what he was doing. Taven he viewed was expendable.
8.Yes
9.Nop, no Bounds.

Originally posted by Furion
1.No, the only really good Adventure MK Game is Shaolin Monks.
To be honest, I haven't played that one in particular, so I can't really have an accurate opinion about it, though I will say it looked okay, but Armageddon's Konquest mode seemed to surpass it.

Also, playing as Goro & Kintaro > playing as Liu Kang & Kung Lao.

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Originally posted by Furion
2.Drahmin and Nitara I find can be kinda powerful if you use them right.
Drahmin has no dial-up combos whatsoever though (only pop-up combos, which aren't as effective), is slower than most other characters, and relies heavily on his special moves to even be good. All of which makes him a very predictable opponent, so he sucks to most people because of that.

But to each his own, I guess.

Originally posted by Furion
Scorpion>>Shinnok.
I can agree that Scorpion's much cooler as a character (in general), but how is a spectre > a God? That equation just doesn't seem to add up.

I mean, Shinnok's posed a much greater threat to Earth-realm than Scorpion ever has (even Raiden had difficulty with Shinnok), so technically, Shinnok > Scorpion (though not in terms of coolness ).

Originally posted by Furion
5.They didn't really focus on Story things in Armaggedon. Just Taven's Crap and you never See Bo'Rai'Cho in Konquest.
I was only referring to Bo' Rai Cho's ending in Deception when I mentioned his leadership role in that game , which Cage had during most of Armageddon, behind the scenes. His official Armageddon bio suggests that too, not just wiki.

http://mkarmageddon.com/assets/bios/bio_johnny_cage.html

"When he dismissed the sorcerer, I approached Shinnok. He was startled and immediately conjured up a skeleton hand to trap me. I jumped out of the way and followed with a Shadow Kick to the chest. I pummeled him, and he never regained his composure. The coward escaped in a cloud of smoke... a teleport of some kind, I suppose."

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Originally posted by Furion
6.Raiden got pissed off because The people of Earthrealm were treating their realm like crap and because Shujinko collected the Kamidogu for Onaga.
Well, I guess you're right about the first part, but Shujinko didn't know it was really Onaga he was collecting the Kamidogu for. If Raiden's soul hadn't of gotten corrupted, he would've understood that, and not attacked him, but he did get corrupted, and because of that, he attacked him.

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"That Shujinko undid his mistake and destroyed the Dragon King is no of importance."

And you know what? That's bull. The original Raiden would've never said that.

Face it. Raiden's sacrifice against Onaga earlier corrupted his soul. That's the only explanation as to why he changed so much (and not just in appearance). Liu Kang's Armageddon ending even implies that.

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Good ridence Dark Thunder God.

Originally posted by Furion
7.I don't really think Raiden would turn from Earth Protector to Traitor just like that. Raiden is not stupid you know, He only accepted Shinnok's Offer to find out what he was doing. Taven he viewed was expendable.
Hmm. Well, I guess you're right about that too...

Still, it's not like Raiden to try and do such a thing at all.

Originally posted by Furion
9.Nop, no Bounds.
If I may ask though, why? Why do you hate Cage so much?

1.Liu Kang eats people as a dragon in Shaolin Monks. Dragon>>>>>Goro.
2.I don't use Drahmin too much. But Nitara is pretty good.
3.Scorpion has the power to destroy Onaga who could wipe the floor with Shinnok. Scorpion isn't a threat to Earthrealm cause he doesn't want it.
4.Shujinko was stupid, if you were in Raiden's position, I think you would get pretty tired of people doing stupid things and then having to clean up after them.
5.Only cause he was desperate and his patience was wearing off.
6. Cause Cage things he's super cool and he's the best fighter ever. In his movies, he has him not Liu Kang as the Hero of Earthrealm and Champion of MK. I only like Cage in the Movie cause well anyone who can punch Goro in the crotch and get away with it is cool. Movie>>>>Games

Originally posted by Furion
1.Liu Kang eats people as a dragon in Shaolin Monks. Dragon>>>>>Goro.
2.I don't use Drahmin too much. But Nitara is pretty good.
3.Scorpion has the power to destroy Onaga who could wipe the floor with Shinnok. Scorpion isn't a threat to Earthrealm cause he doesn't want it.
4.Shujinko was stupid, if you were in Raiden's position, I think you would get pretty tired of people doing stupid things and then having to clean up after them.
5.Only cause he was desperate and his patience was wearing off.
6. Cause Cage things he's super cool and he's the best fighter ever. In his movies, he has him not Liu Kang as the Hero of Earthrealm and Champion of MK. I only like Cage in the Movie cause well anyone who can punch Goro in the crotch and get away with it is cool. Movie>>>>Games
Meh. Point taken.

I forgot about Cage doing that. That's definitely a good enough reason then, I suppose. >.>

Although I dislike how Cage won THAT easily in the movie.

Wesker still owns Cage cause Wesker has Super Speed and will smash Johnny across the floor