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I remember the days when you couldn't draw red blood on the page - never mind Superboy Prime decapitating Titans members.

Who does it more - Marvel or DC?

I think DC kill bigger names in more graphic ways, whereas Marvel usually have their characters go out in a bit more of a "Blaze of Glory" however Marvel characters tend to get injured more. I can't count the number of times spidey has fought a villains whilst ill or with a broken arm or already beaten up, etc etc

One difference is with Marvel, they save their most hardcore stuff for their MAX comic line. While regular DC series like Infinite Crisis & 52 shows many bloody rampages, with crushed heads & flying limbs. What kind of ratings system does DC use?

Probably DC if you count their Wildstorm/Vertigo line ups.

Originally posted by Val
Probably DC if you count their Wildstorm/Vertigo line ups.

My thoughts precisely.

I'm really talking about what you see in their mainstream line, not their specialty ones.

Garth Ennis + MAX and/or Vertigo = Serious Mayhem.

Image and Wildstorm are violent. Screw Marvel and D.C.

Valiant was pretty violent back in the day

Originally posted by B.A
Image and Wildstorm are violent. Screw Marvel and D.C.

Wildstorm is DC.

Image ?

They had Spawn and Savage Dragon.

I would say Marvel

ghost rider for one the newer stuff theres a bit more blood in the comics compared to the last series.

Ghost Rider and Punisher are pretty much exceptions. MAX Wisdom is an example of how MAX comics can contain no gore at all.

I'll go with DC any day as far as violence go. Mannheim is a violent bastard.

In the recent teen titans:

http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/2258/damntt2.jpg

Originally posted by Soljer
In the recent teen titans:

http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/2258/damntt2.jpg

Case in point.
Who the hell was that? Looked like J'onn in a female body.

Miss Martian?

Originally posted by roughrider
Case in point.
Who the hell was that? Looked like J'onn in a female body.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miss_Martian

Originally posted by grey fox
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miss_Martian

OK. I just don't keep up with the Titans & their roster.

As of Infinite Crisis, DC seems to be increasing the gore a lot, just paging through when the Green Lanterns and Yellow Lanterns were fighting, you see GL's getting head-shotted (seeing depictions of their brains literally flying from their head) and such, plus SBP ripping arms off and what-not.

Plus the recent Black Adam stories were over the top gruesome, such as where Black Adam cut open that snow creatures stomach and used it's intestines to repel down the side of the mountain.

Osiris killing "The Persuader" was pretty graphic

Originally posted by Kutulu
As of Infinite Crisis, DC seems to be increasing the gore a lot, just paging through when the Green Lanterns and Yellow Lanterns were fighting, you see GL's getting head-shotted (seeing depictions of their brains literally flying from their head) and such, plus SBP ripping arms off and what-not.

Plus the recent Black Adam stories were over the top gruesome, such as where Black Adam cut open that snow creatures stomach and used it's intestines to repel down the side of the mountain.

You put that up against Civil War or World War Hulk, and for all the mayhem there is little graphic gore. Lots of bruised faces and torn clothing, but no spraying arteries.
But like I said earlier, Marvel instituted it's own rating system several years ago, and has distinct boundries with each level. DC's only restraint seems to be Superman never gets blood on his costume.

Originally posted by Kutulu
As of Infinite Crisis, DC seems to be increasing the gore a lot, just paging through when the Green Lanterns and Yellow Lanterns were fighting, you see GL's getting head-shotted (seeing depictions of their brains literally flying from their head) and such, plus SBP ripping arms off and what-not.

Plus the recent Black Adam stories were over the top gruesome, such as where Black Adam cut open that snow creatures stomach and used it's intestines to repel down the side of the mountain.

Very good points. I was just using one very recent example, but as was pointed out - in the Sinestro Corps war? WWIII?

Not even comparable to the damage taken in World War Hulk or Civil War.

DC is way more graphical violent. Even before Wildstorm/Vertigo existed there were the brutal gore deaths illustrations artwork from Jim Aparo. Just look at the late 80's series of TEC from Norm Breyfogle.

Both Breyfogle and Aparo made the Batman books very gore.

Originally posted by llagrok
Osiris killing "The Persuader" was pretty graphic

Osiris death was also very brutal. Poor kid.

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
Osiris death was also very brutal. Poor kid.

Yeah.

Pretty much anything related to Black Adam is graphic.

Poll looks like a clean sweep for DC right now.

So, why is that? Are they (DC) still influenced by the 80's boom of 'hard' writers who came from the UK, like Moore, Morrison, Garth Ennis & Peter Milligan - all doing work that would require the Mature label?

marvel wins for collateral damage, DC for physical gore.

Originally posted by roughrider
You put that up against Civil War or World War Hulk, and for all the mayhem there is little graphic gore. Lots of bruised faces and torn clothing, but no spraying arteries.
But like I said earlier, Marvel instituted it's own rating system several years ago, and has distinct boundries with each level. DC's only restraint seems to be Superman never gets blood on his costume.

lol@superman comment

DC, especially Superman Prime, I know they are trying to protray him as a MAJOR threat but slack it if off some, comics do have kids reading, going to the point of killing Zod then his wife while shes pregnant with heat vision... .

Originally posted by kevdude
I know they are trying to protray him as a MAJOR threat but slack it if off some, comics do have kids reading, going to the point of killing Zod then his wife while shes pregnant with heat vision... .

It's not something new Kev. They always let the bad guys get carry away. Examples, during the City of Crime storyline in TEC two years ago. Mr. Freeze killed many pregnant women in one of the most horrendous crimes in Gotham. As far as I can remenber the artwork show frozen body parts. A very disturbing and sickening image.

Recently in The Spectre's mini there was a scene in which a grotesque looking clown killed and abused an innocent little girl. DCU is very sick and disturbing. Utterly gross and in poor taste.

This is what I like about the DC staff. They give artists a green light when it comes to illustrating sick and cruel criminal images to shock and disturb the readers.

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
It's not something new Kev. They always let the bad guys get carry away. Examples, during the City of Crime storyline in TEC two years ago. Mr. Freeze killed many pregnant women in one of the most horrendous crimes in Gotham. As far as I can remenber the artwork show frozen body parts. A very disturbing and sickening image.

Recently in The Spectre's mini there was a scene in which a grotesque looking clown killed and abused an innocent little girl. DCU is very sick and disturbing. Utterly gross and in poor taste.

This is what I like about the DC staff. They give artists a green light when it comes to illustrating sick and cruel criminal images to shock and disturb the readers.

And isn't it interesting that up until the 1980's, DC had a fuddy-duddy image compared to the hip Marvel Universe?
I think they've been pressing on the accelerator to go the other direction for a long time - probably too long.

DC by quite a bit