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What's the most controversial song you've ever seen or heard? I personally think Madonna's video (Forgot the name, sorry)the one where she was fully naked and was also dressed up as a catwoman look alike was pretty weird and offensive.

But what do you think?

Why did that Madonna video offend you?

I'm not offended by any music or such, so I can't really say.

There's a difference between being controversial in the worthwhile sense, and the Marilyn Manson kind of "I'm going to tear up a bible, knowing that it will get a reaction.".

Controversy, to me, is raising or producing ideas that cause a lot of interest and reasonable discussion. Not needlessly pissing people off. I don't consider Anal C*nt to be controversial, I'd consider Morrissey to be controversial sometimes.

-AC

"COLORS" - Utada Hikaru

Anata wa wakarimasu ka.....

Oh, for fvck's sake.

I just got the lyrics to that song translated, they're not even about anything controversial.

-AC

haermm

Originally posted by chillmeistergen
Oh, for fvck's sake. I could say the same concerning your uncalled for post.

But all I'll say is, "Here we fooking go again....Sigh."

Anata wa wakarimasu ka.....

So who do you think has a controversial song, InnerRise?

An actual one, not just a song you like.

Cite reason also.

-AC

Imagine by John Lennon, horribly obvious choice, I know. Oh, and Paint a Vulgar Picture by The Smiths.

NWA comes to mind.

Immortal Technique's- 'Freedom of Speech' comes to mind as well. i remember reading on his site that government officials investigated his home cuz of this song. hard to believe.

'Freedom of Speech'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCYbZZTEwiM

nothing really controversial comes to mind. i'll think about it.

F*ck the Police by N.W.A. is probably one of the best examples in hip hop.

'97 Bonnie and Clyde by Eminem. The whole "Telling his daughter about how they're going to go dump her mother's body in the water." thing.

Angel of Death by Slayer. Talking about Josef Mengele and his human experiments on jews during World War II.

-AC

I was definitely going to say "Angel of Death".

"F*ck the Police" definitely came to mind when HA mentioned NWA. Imagine is definitely a good call and probably the most obvious one. Lennon's "God" also comes to mind.

Venom's entire album "Welcome to Hell" definitely comes to mind. "Sons of Satan" and "In League With Satan" were definitely controversial at their time. They were probably the first band to fully embrace the full on Satanist thing.

Originally posted by InnerRise
haermm

I could say the same concerning your uncalled for post.

But all I'll say is, "Here we fooking go again....Sigh."

Anata wa wakarimasu ka.....

you wonder why?

stop posting shit and you'll stop getting shit replies... simple as

Anata wa wakarimasu ka.....

Big Girls Don't Cry.


I think that sparked the biggest controversy yet whether someone should be killed for creating shit music or whether their fans should just be tortured.


Alfie's a close second.

there is no such song

i thought Guns n Roses "look at your game girl" was controvertial not because of the song content...but because of the writer...i also think it was a cheap publicity stunt and an ill thought out idea as well

Originally posted by jaden101
i thought Guns n Roses "look at your game girl" was controvertial not because of the song content...but because of the writer...i also think it was a cheap publicity stunt and an ill thought out idea as well

yea, but imo it was done just for the reaction... i know he said 'people cant see the beauty of the song' or something like that, but he knew full well it'd get a reaction and that's why he released it... not because the song was good.

Originally posted by Df02
you wonder why?

stop posting shit and you'll stop getting shit replies... simple as

Anata wa wakarimasu ka..... What I posted wasn't sh@t, unlike your "striving for attention" post. Do I know you? No. You're done.

The only thing true thing in your post is that your reply and some others actually were sh@t replies.........but I already knew that.

Now you're done.


ANATA WA WAKARIMASU KA.....

Originally posted by InnerRise
What I posted wasn't sh@t, unlike your "striving for attention" post. Do I know you? No. You're done.

The only thing true thing in your post is that your reply and some others actually were sh@t replies.........but I already knew that.

Now you're done.


ANATA WA WAKARIMASU KA.....

so you truly beleive the song you posted is controversial? you're done.

ANATA WA WAKARIMASU KA.....

Originally posted by Df02
so you truly beleive the song you posted is controversial? you're done.

ANATA WA WAKARIMASU KA..... Oh I see.....you want to join the crowd.......be cool.........not knowing me......but still start juvenile crap........Continue on then and embarrass yourself.......

You don't like my choice........that's fine..........you want to act a fool b/c you don't like my choice............that's ignorant.......enjoy yourself......have fun......

ANATA WA WAKARIMASU KA.....

If I could just list all the underground grindcore and thrashcore lyrics....... I don't think I could ever make a decision on most controversial.

Originally posted by InnerRise
Oh I see.....you want to join the crowd.......be cool.........not knowing me......but still start juvenile crap........Continue on then and embarrass yourself.......

You don't like my choice........that's fine..........you want to act a fool b/c you don't like my choice............that's ignorant.......enjoy yourself......have fun......

ANATA WA WAKARIMASU KA.....

The people here know what you show of yourself, if you show yourself to be a Japan obsessed, annoying ladyboy, that's what you'll be treated as. If you want people to know your whole history, tell them.

Originally posted by InnerRise
Oh I see.....you want to join the crowd.......be cool.........not knowing me......but still start juvenile crap........Continue on then and embarrass yourself.......

You don't like my choice........that's fine..........you want to act a fool b/c you don't like my choice............that's ignorant.......enjoy yourself......have fun......

ANATA WA WAKARIMASU KA.....

this is actually the first i've ever seen of you... but this could all be sorted if you just posted WHY you think your clearly non-controversial song is controversial.

although I suppose, technically, it caused a bit of controversy here didnt it...

Just leave him to it.

What he does is makes a nuisance of himself, then spends the rest of the time trying to get attention without ever answering anything.

If you leave him. he gets bored and spares everyone his idiocy. Just ignore him.

-AC

Originally posted by InnerRise
"COLORS" - Utada Hikaru

Anata wa wakarimasu ka..... I don't know anything about that song.

How was it controversial? And where?

Originally posted by chillmeistergen
The people here know what you show of yourself, if you show yourself to be a Japan obsessed, annoying ladyboy, that's what you'll be treated as. If you want people to know your whole history, tell them. If you get annoyed to the point where you whining and having temper tantrums b/c of something that someone else is interested in, it doesn't say a lot about you so just grow up already and stop whining to me b/c my interests apparently jumped you in an alley one night and insulted your mother. Good God.

And you along with a few other unintelligent souls here started that whole thing, not me.......you all created that whole silly Japanese Persona of me. Someone got mad one day.......said something about me and Japanese.........and you and other weak willed/minded kids jumped on the band wagon and have created this idea of me.

It helps you sleep at night and makes you think you have a reason to hate me and I really don't care and this will be my last time explaining that to you being that I already coddled you in PMs over this. Get over it. I'm going to like what I'm going to like and if that means you're going to waste time crucifying me for it.........just make sure you put me on your ignore list after your done b/c as we both know........you lack the self control along with others that's required to get by in today's world and you appear to have some Anger Management Issues.

You're Done.

Anata wa wakarimasu ka.....

About my question, could you elaborate on the song?

I think the music boards may have a tendency to cause people to erupt into arguments.

So you know, I have nothing against you, InnerRise, and I don't have anything against the rest of you either. But I do think what you said about "It helps you sleep at night" is going to get AC jumping on you even more. Not saying anything about AC, I've just noticed the sort of things he jumps on.

And Bardock, I've never heard of it either ... So you're not alone. At the moment, I can't even think of a controversial song, but then again, I've only been awake for about half an hour ... So my brain hasn't kicked in yet.

As far as I see it, InnerRise, is just a little child with a nationality crisis, that's all. Hence why it's the one button he can't stand having pushed. It's his achilles heel and he is to be pitied, quite honestly. He's an American child who has been as close to Japan as Hitler has to Ghandi levels of tolerance, and he's bitter about it.

He just has the mind of a child, so you've gotta let him wear himself out and he'll shut up. That's why he's not discussing the topic, you see. He doesn't discuss topics, he just wants attention. People keep giving it to him, so he always succeeds in ruining threads. I'm giving him too much credit by even replying, but that's how it is around here.

Ignore him and he goes away, or ask him a question he's afraid of, and he'll go away.

-AC

Originally posted by Shinde Imasu
But I do think what you said about "It helps you sleep at night" is going to get AC jumping on you even more. Not saying anything about AC, I've just noticed the sort of things he jumps on. You were right.haermm

Anata wa wakarimasu ka.....

InnerRise, why is that song controversial, then?

Contribute to the thread.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
InnerRise, why is that song controversial, then?

Contribute to the thread.

-AC

it's not. end

mod wanna remove the post and all subsequant posts?

About the only way someone could find Colors a controversial song is if they have no idea what the lyrics mean and are making up their own translations.

I say that as someone who not only knows the song...but owns the CD it's on.

Anyway.........back to topic.
Originally posted by InnerRise
"COLORS" - Utada Hikaru

Anata wa wakarimasu ka.....
doped

ANATA WA WAKARIMASU KA.....

Reported.

-AC

... Some people take it just a little too far ...

Originally posted by Lana
About the only way someone could find Colors a controversial song is if they have no idea what the lyrics mean and are making up their own translations.

I say that as someone who not only knows the song...but owns the CD it's on.

wouldn't surprise me, since im pretty sure the sentence she/he keeps posting over and over is gramatically incorrect.

"you do you understand"

Originally posted by Lana
About the only way someone could find Colors a controversial song is if they have no idea what the lyrics mean and are making up their own translations.

I say that as someone who not only knows the song...but owns the CD it's on.

Woah, hold the phone - she owns the CD.

Not really a great thing to admit to.

Originally posted by chillmeistergen
Woah, hold the phone - she owns the CD.

Not really a great thing to admit to.

I also got it as a birthday gift when I turned 16 - nearly 6 years ago

Plus there's only three songs on it (it's a single) and I wanted it more for the theme from Kingdom Hearts than anything else...

OK, you're forgiven.

Originally posted by chillmeistergen
OK, you're forgiven. No, she's not. But continue.

I tell you what, I'm less interested to give you all 40 quid to end up on a quack handle.

Y'know, I don't wanna end up like a bloody cyallow dentist.

Controversial song: God Save the Queen by The Sex Pistols.

-AC

T-Spoon - Sex On The Beach.

shouldn't that actually have two question marks anyway?

no it should have no 'Anata wa' and one question mark at the end I think.

But i'm sure he knows better, he is Japanese after all...

Je T'aime... Moi Non Plus - Serge Gainsbourg

**** da police of course

but that didn't really shock me.

Here's one that did:

I was only 16 but I guess that's no excuse
My sister was 32, lovely and loose
She don't wear no underwear
She said it only gets in her hair
And it's got a funny way of stoppin' the juice

My sister never made love 2 anyone else but me
She's the reason 4 my, uh, sexuality
She showed me where it's supposed 2 go
A blowjob doesn't mean blow
Incest is everything it's said 2 be

Oh sister - don't put me on the street again
Oh sister - I just wanna be your friend

I was only 16 and only half a man
My sister didn't give a goddamn
She only wanted 2 turn me out
She'd take a whip 2 me until I shout
Oh mother****er, she's a mother****er, can't U understand?

Oh sister - don't put me on the street again
Oh sister - I just wanna be your friend

I know what U want me 2 do
Put me on the street and make me blue

Oh sister!
Oh sister!

Do you actually have an answer to any thread that doesn't involve Prince?

-AC

Me So Horny by the 2 Live Crew.

Originally posted by Df02
no it should have no 'Anata wa' and one question mark at the end I think.

But i'm sure he knows better, he is Japanese after all...

mmm...i thought it translated as "and you?, do you understand?"

or something similar

Originally posted by Shinde Imasu
... Some people take it just a little too far ... Indeed.

Anata wa wakarimasu ka.....

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Do you actually have an answer to any thread that doesn't involve Prince?

-AC

Don't be silly! He also loves O(+>, The Artist Formerly Known As Prince, The Artist, Tora Tora, Jamie Starr, Camille, The Kid, Mr Goodnight, I could go on and on.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Do you actually have an answer to any thread that doesn't involve Prince?

-AC To be fair, Prince's music has been the subject of controversy in the past. Including that one.

I am aware, my point stands.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
I am aware, my point stands.

-AC You don't like that you are not the No. 1 Prince fan anymore...awwwwwwwwwwwwwww hug

I ain't got no mutha ****in friends
Thats why I ****ed your *****
You fat mutha-****a {Take Money}
West Side
Bad Boy Killers {Take Money}
You know who the realist is
niggas we bring it to {Take Money}
(ha ha, that's alright)

First off, **** your *****
And the click you claim
West side when we ride
Come equipped with game
You claim to be a playa
But, I ****ed your wife
We bust on Bad Boys
niggas **** for Life
Plus Puffy tryin' to see me weak
Hearts I rip
Biggie Smalls and Junior Mafia
Some mark ass bitches
We keep on coming
While we running for yah jewels
Steady gunning
Keep on busting at them fools
You know the rules
Little Ceasar go ask you homie
How i'll leave yah
Cut your young ass up
See yah in pieces
Now be deceased
Little Kim,
Don't **** around with real G's
Quick to snatch your ugly ass, off the streets
So **** peace
I'll let them niggas know
It's on for Life
Don't let the west side
Ride the night (ha ha)
Bad Boys murdered on Wax and kill
**** with me
And get your caps peeled
You know, See



Grab your glocks when you see 2pac
Call the cops when you see 2pac, Uhh
Who shot me,
But, your punks didn't finish
Now, you 'bout to feel the wrath of a menace
nigga, I hit 'em up

Check this out
You mutha-****as know what time it is
I don't know why I'm even on this track
Y'all niggas ain't even on my level
I'm going to let my little homies
Ride on yah
***** made ass Bad Boys bitches
{ahh yo, yo, hold the **** up}

Get out the way yo
Get out the way yo
Biggie Smalls just got dropped
Little move pa*s the mac
And let me hit 'em in his back
Frank White needs to get spanked right
For setting up traps
Little accident murderers
And I ain't never heard of yah
Poise less gats attack when I'm serving yah
Spank the shank
Your whole style when I gank
Guard your rank
Cause I'm a slam your ass in a pang
Puffy weaker than a ****in' block
I'm running through nigga
And I'm smoking Junior Mafia
In front of yah nigga
With the ready power
Tucked in my Guess
Under my Eddie Bower
Your clout petty sour
I push packages ever hour
I hit 'em up



Grab your glocks when you see 2pac
Call the cops when you see 2pac, Uhh
Who shot me,
But, your punks didn't finish
Now, you 'bout to feel the wrath of a menace
nigga, We hit 'em up

Peep how we do it
Keep it real
Its penitentiary steel
This ain't no freestyle battle
All you niggas getting killed
With your mouths open
Tryin' to come up off of me
You and the clouds hoping
Smoking dope
It's like a Shermine
niggas think they learned to fly
But they burn mutha-****a you deserve to die
Talking about you Getting Money
But its funny to me
All you niggas living bummy
While you ****ing with me?
I'm a self made Millionaire
Thug livin', out of prison
Pistols in the Air {Air} (Ha Ha)
Biggie remember when I use to let you sleep on the couch
And beg the ***** to let you sleep in the house
Now its all about versace
You copied my style
Five shots couldn't drop me
I took it and smiled
Now I'm back to set the record straight
With my A-K
I'm still the thug that you love to hate
Mutha-****a I'll Hit 'Em Up

I'm from N E W Jers.
Where plenty of murder occurs
No points to come
We bring drama to all you herds
Now go check the scenerio
Little Ceas'
I'll bring you fake G's to yah knees
Copin' pleas with these
Little Kim is yah
Coked up or doped up
Get your little Junior Whopper click smoked up
What the ****?
Is you stupid?
I take money,
crash and mash through Brooklyn
With my click looting, shooting, and polluting your block
With fifteen shot,
Cocked glock to your knot
Outlaw Mafia click moving up another notch
And your Pop stars popped and get dropped and mopped
And all your fake ass east coast props
Brainstormed and locked

You'se a beat biter
Pac style taker
I'll tell you to face, you ain't nothing shit but a faker
So fill the Alize with a chaser
'bout to get murdered for the paper
E.d.i I mean post the scene of the caper
Like a loc, with little Ceas' in a choke (uhh)
Toting smoke, we ain't no mutha-****in' joke
Thug Life, niggas better be known
Be approaching
In the wide open, gun smoking
No need for hoping
It's a battle lost
I gottem crossed as soon as the funk is bopping off
nigga, I hit 'em up

Now you tell me who won
I see them, they run (ha ha)
They don't wanna see us
Whole Junior Mafia click
Dressing up to be us
How the **** they gonna be the Mob?
When we always on out job
We millionaire's
Killing ain't fair
But somebody got to do it

Oh yah Mobb Deep (uhh)
You wanna **** with us
You Little young ass mutha-****as
Don't one of you niggas got sickle-cell or something
You ****ing with me, nigga ?
You **** around and catch a seizure or a heart-attack
You better back the **** up
Before you get smacked the **** up
This is how we do it on our side
Any of you niggas from New York that want to bring it,
Bring it.
But we ain't singing,
We bringing drama
**** you and your mother ****ing mama.
We gonna kill all you mother ****ers.
Now when I came out, I told you it was just about biggie.
Then everybody had to open their mouth with a mother ****in opinion
Well this is how we gon' do this:
**** Mobb Deep,
**** Biggie,
**** Bad Boy as a staff, record label, and as a mother ****in crew.
And if you want to be down with Bad Boy,
Then **** you too.
Chino XL, **** you too.
All you mother ****ers,
**** you too.
(take money, take money)
All of y'all mother ****ers,
**** you, die slow mother ****er.
My fo' fo' (.44 magnum) make sure all yo' kids don't grow.
You mother ****ers can't be us or see us.
We mother ****in' Thug Life riders.
West Side till' we die.
Out here in California, nigga
We warned ya'
We'll bomb on you mother ****ers.
We do our job.
You think you the mob, nigga, we the mother ****in' mob
Ain't nuttin' but killers
And the real niggas, all you mother ****ers feel us.
Our shit goes triple and four quadruple
You niggas laugh cuz our staff got guns under they mother ****in' belts
You know how it is and we drop records they felt
You niggas can't feel it
We the realist
**** 'em.
We Bad Boy killas.

Originally posted by Bardock42
You don't like that you are not the No. 1 Prince fan anymore...awwwwwwwwwwwwwww hug

I'm a Prince fan, I don't care about being any number.

It's just shocking that someone can be so without variation, or perhaps you are upset that you're not the No. 1 repetition master anymore.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
I'm a Prince fan, I don't care about being any number.

It's just shocking that someone can be so without variation, or perhaps you are upset that you're not the No. 1 repetition master anymore.

-AC Oh burn. You showed me.

American Terrorist by Lupe Fiasco, that was controversial to many, but it spoke the truth.

And Eminem/Slim Shady's early songs.

Man I have 6000 songs on Itunes, only 600 are Prince or related.

Get real dude

That's kind of irrelevant, and even more to the point.

I never said anything about owning other music, I asked if Prince was all you listen to.

-AC

What do you think? Seriousy

Well you don't exactly give off the impression of a guy who listens to much else.

Almost all your answers to any thread have to do with Prince.

When you posted in the "Best Album Cover" thread, you picked The Black Album by Prince. It's just a black square.

-AC

I don't remember the song's title, or who it's by, but this one rap song(there's probably many others too), about how this dude's girlfriend is pregnant, and the kid isn't his, so he talks about her getting out a wire hanger or something.

......I'd find that quite controversial.

Nobody remembers "Cop Killer" from Ice T's band, Body Count?

That was a very controversial tune when it was released.

I also like N.W.A.'s F*Ck tha Police.

That song I wrote about raping babies.

Called Baby-hole.

rape me by nirvana is kinda controversial

At the time God Save the Queen, Cop Killer or Relax.

At one time,John Lennon-Imagine or Working class hero

I'm 15.

I don't get what's so controversial about Imagine.

Some care to enlighten me?

Originally posted by SelphieT
Polly could be controversial by Nirvana too. I mean, the song was about a chick who was raped, and then some idiot Nirvana fans raped another chick while singing that song. Stuuuuupid.

It's arguable whether that makes the song controversial.

Originally posted by Funkadelic
I'm 15.

I don't get what's so controversial about Imagine.

Some care to enlighten me? It's anti-religious, anti-patriotism, and arguably pro-anarchy. During it's time those things were very frowned upon. It was banned from a lot of radio stations when it was released.

Originally posted by Nellinator
It's anti-religious, anti-patriotism, and arguably pro-anarchy. During it's time those things were very frowned upon. It was banned from a lot of radio stations when it was released.

Yep. Declare that you like that song (let alone mention it's name) and you were most likely to be accused of witchcraft and burned at the stake.

Sorry I know this post may be old but a few songs to me jump to mind.
Black Day In July-Gordon Lightfoot
One In A Million- Guns N Roses
Mack The Knife- Bobby Darin
Sympathy For The Devil- Rolling Stones
The Ballad Of Ira Hayes- Johnny Cash
Ohio- Crosby Stills Nash And Young
Apartment 213-Macabre
Actually Everything Macabre has done Should be CONTROVERSIAL.

Controversial in the traditional sense, I'd put 'Mark of the Beast' pretty high.

Controversial by my standards, probably F*ck the Police and Imagine. F*ck the Police was a starting point for anti-rap crusades, ad Imagine just spit in the face of the established belief systems without coming off gimmicky.

Read-A-Book by D'mite Armah

i dont like mondays: the boomtown rats

Cop Killer by Bodycount. Only song blacklisted by the FBI/CIA as far as i know, so i think that kinda tops the list for me.

I've gone through the entire thread, and I want to know why this Hilaro chick's song is so controversial, too. Hasn't happened.

I'd say a few, which have also been mentioned in this thread:

Imagine
I Don't Like Mondays

I'd also say Happy Christmas (War Is Over) perhaps not because it's controversial, because I really don't know if it was, just it seemed a very significant song at the time of it's release, and also one of my favourites.

psycho by puddle of mudd its all over the raidio

'Closer' by NIN.

Yeah, lock the young uns up, Trent said f*ck.

Lock them up and throw away the key, Trent said f*ck.

He was poking fun at the fact you consider that the most controversial song of all.

-AC

I realize this.

However never did I once claim that it is the most controversial song ever. I merely stated that it was a controversial song by my posting it.

john legend feat snoop dogg - i can change

Originally posted by Eon Blue
I realize this.

However never did I once claim that it is the most controversial song ever. I merely stated that it was a controversial song by my posting it. Well, posting it in the "most controversial song" thread might give that impression.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Cyxc7BMhLlI

Originally posted by Bardock42
Well, posting it in the "most controversial song" thread might give that impression.

Instigator.

Other members have given several examples of what is in their opinion the most 'controversial' song ever. Several examples, and no definate one. I never said that mine was the most controversial. Although I still do find it controversial.

Originally posted by Eon Blue
Instigator.

Other members have given several examples of what is in their opinion the most 'controversial' song ever. Several examples, and no definate one. I never said that mine was the most controversial. Although I still do find it controversial.

Exactly, you seem to think it is a contender for the title of "most controversial song". Why are you whining about people pointing that out or poking fun at that rather ridiculous suggestion?

Why is it ridiculous? And don't mimic other posters.

Are you just jumping the bandwagon, because it sure seems like it.

Originally posted by Eon Blue
Why is it ridiculous? And don't mimic other posters.

Are you just jumping the bandwagon, because it sure seems like it.

What else can there be said. He said **** a few times. It got censored a bit. How is it controversial? Did people blockade streets to get it from being shipped? Were I agree commissions wtarted to control th amount of saying **** in songs due to it? Did anyone even discuss it beyond..."Haha, that Reznor guy sure is a rebel...lolz"? How could you in any reasonable sense consider it to be one of the Most Controversial Songs? ****, who in their right mind would put it in a top 100 of controversial songs.

So, sure I jumped on the bandwagon. AC and VVD don't post that often and I fully agree with the sentiment they stated. In fact, if you look back I didn't even comment on your choice at first, I commented on a side matter I believe you misunderstood. You made it about the song again. Seriously, stop your crying, if you are going to say stupid shit people will point it out. Maybe check Gaia's Music Forum, I hear only shallow kids post there, no one will give you shit about your opinion there.

Originally posted by Eon Blue
Instigator.

Other members have given several examples of what is in their opinion the most 'controversial' song ever. Several examples, and no definate one. I never said that mine was the most controversial. Although I still do find it controversial.

What do you find controversial about that song?

Originally posted by Bardock42
What else can there be said. He said **** a few times. It got censored a bit. How is it controversial? Did people blockade streets to get it from being shipped? Were I agree commissions wtarted to control th amount of saying **** in songs due to it? Did anyone even discuss it beyond..."Haha, that Reznor guy sure is a rebel...lolz"? How could you in any reasonable sense consider it to be one of the Most Controversial Songs? ****, who in their right mind would put it in a top 100 of controversial songs.

So, sure I jumped on the bandwagon. AC and VVD don't post that often and I fully agree with the sentiment they stated. In fact, if you look back I didn't even comment on your choice at first, I commented on a side matter I believe you misunderstood. You made it about the song again. Seriously, stop your crying, if you are going to say stupid shit people will point it out. Maybe check Gaia's Music Forum, I hear only shallow kids post there, no one will give you shit about your opinion there.

You worked pretty hard on that post, didn't you? Sad.

Did people blockade streets to get it from being shipped? Dude, it's a song, and I don't think any song has been able to do something like that, so stop being stupid. I consider it to be controversial because of the amount of attention it received along with the music video (at least it got lots of attention where I'm from). It was in the town paper about how a church was upset about certain music, and NIN was one of the bands being attacked. It's not just the use of the word 'f*ck', but the song's overall lyrical content. If it was just about 'f*ck', that would be a pretty shitty reason. The song itself is about sex (which in itself can be a touchy subject), however the potency of the song lies in the perverse use of its lyrics. Thus why I dubbed it controversial. I wouldn't expect you to understand (even more so since you aren't from here). I myself don't find the song controversial, but many people do. I'm not offended by known forms of entertainment.

And just for the record, I'm not whining like you say I am. This is a forum where individuals get to state their opinions and back what they say. I'm merely stating mine, so calm down. Another thing, your posts borderline on being rude. Is that really necessary?

Before I forget, I've been meaning to ask you something, Bardock. Do you deliberately try and mimic what AC and VVD say? Do you want to appear as a musical elitist? Maybe you feel the need to kiss a** since AC has owned you so many times. I suppose that's understandable, though, seeing as how you can't think for yourself. I can see why they burn you, pathetic waste of skin.

Practically every song in the mainstream is about sex.

While that statement is true (partially), I'm sure many sensitive people would find those songs offensive as well. 'Closer' is one of the songs that has perfected that formula, in my opinion.

Originally posted by Eon Blue
You worked pretty hard on that post, didn't you? Sad.

I wrote it down in a few minutes. Unless typing and quickly forming coherent thoughts is hard work to you I would say I didn't really.

Originally posted by Eon Blue
Did people blockade streets to get it from being shipped? Dude, it's a song, and I don't think any song has been able to do something like that, so stop being stupid. I consider it to be controversial because of the amount of attention it received along with the music video (at least it got lots of attention where I'm from). It was in the town paper about how a church was upset about certain music, and NIN was one of the bands being attacked. It's not just the use of the word 'f*ck', but the song's overall lyrical content. If it was just about 'f*ck', that would be a pretty shitty reason. The song itself is about sex (which in itself can be a touchy subject), however the potency of the song lies in the perverse use of its lyrics. Thus why I dubbed it controversial. I wouldn't expect you to understand (even more so since you aren't from here). I myself don't find the song controversial, but many people do. I'm not offended by known forms of entertainment.

I figured that you thought it was controversial, which might be said for the video, but there was no public outcry. No official counter actions. It just didn't generate much controversy. I am sure your town paper discussed it heatedly, but on the whole it came and went and no one was really worried.

Originally posted by Eon Blue
And just for the record, I'm not whining like you say I am. This is a forum where individuals get to state their opinions and back what they say. I'm merely stating mine, so calm down. Another thing, your posts borderline on being rude. Is that really necessary?

Yeah. It is necessary, you are an arrogant ****, don't like to give you much courtesy.

Originally posted by Eon Blue
Before I forget, I've been meaning to ask you something, Bardock. Do you deliberately try and mimic what AC and VVD say? Do you want to appear as a musical elitist? Maybe you feel the need to kiss a** since AC has owned you so many times. I suppose that's understandable, though, seeing as how you can't think for yourself. I can see why they burn you, pathetic waste of skin.

Laughable.

Originally posted by Eon Blue
While that statement is true (partially), I'm sure many sensitive people would find those songs offensive as well. 'Closer' is one of the songs that has perfected that formula, in my opinion.

As far as I'm aware the song offended very few people, maybe it was just your local church trying to find something to do with their Sunday.

There are certainly more controversial songs, I think Closer is probably the worst suggestion made yet. Sex On The Beach is far more controversial.

Originally posted by Bardock42
I wrote it down in a few minutes. Unless typing and quickly forming coherent thoughts is hard work to you I would say I didn't really.



I figured that you thought it was controversial, which might be said for the video, but there was no public outcry. No official counter actions. It just didn't generate much controversy. I am sure your town paper discussed it heatedly, but on the whole it came and went and no one was really worried.



Yeah. It is necessary, you are an arrogant ****, don't like to give you much courtesy.



Laughable.

Laughable? Do you laugh to cover up your embarrassment?

I'm only arrogant because you are. I'm extremely friendly to many posters, but your arrogance coupled with your sarcasm makes you fun to pick at. Slob.

Go back to brown nosing AC and VVD. I'm sure they love having you as their little b*tch.

Originally posted by chillmeistergen
There are certainly more controversial songs

Obviously, but 'Closer' was one of the most mainstream ones with vivid imagery.

Originally posted by Eon Blue
Laughable? Do you laugh to cover up your embarrassment?

I'm only arrogant because you are. I'm extremely friendly to many posters, but your arrogance coupled with your sarcasm makes you fun to pick at. Slob

Go back to brown nosing AC and VVD. I'm sure they love having you as their little b*tch.

Reported for bashing, you bender.

Originally posted by Eon Blue
Obviously, but 'Closer' was one of the most mainstream ones with vivid imagery.

No it wasn't.

Originally posted by chillmeistergen
Reported for bashing, you bender.



No it wasn't.

Reported for flaming, flamer. You need to "chill". Must you rely on the "Report" button?

Opinion is subjective, just so you know.

Originally posted by Eon Blue
Reported for flaming, flamer. You need to "chill". Must you rely on the "Report" button?

Opinion is subjective, just so you know.

Yes, I know that an opinion is subjective. But the reasons you think that Closer is a controversial song aren't really good enough to give that kind of accolade. Wow, it was in your local paper, that really doesn't mean anything at all. It has the word f*ck in it and it concerns sex, there are far more controversial songs out there, mainstream and non mainstream.

To name a few and to get this topic moving along: F*ck The Police by NWA, Sister by Prince and Rape Me by Nirvana.

Those songs were already mentioned. Good job on getting this topic to move along.

'Rape me' is about sex, there are far more controversial songs out there, mainstream and non-mainstream. Hardly a reason for controversiality.

Originally posted by Eon Blue
Laughable? Do you laugh to cover up your embarrassment?

I'm only arrogant because you are. I'm extremely friendly to many posters, but your arrogance coupled with your sarcasm makes you fun to pick at. Slob.

Go back to brown nosing AC and VVD. I'm sure they love having you as their little b*tch. Laughable because your inaccurate evaluation of my personality and the situation is funny. You try to insult me with ridiculous claims, why should I mind them?

You gave an idiotic opinion and now try to dodge the obvious point by trying to make fun of me. Good for you, you are still an idiot for thinking Closer could in any way be considered as one of the most controversial songs.

And opinions might be subjective. But they can still be stupid, wrong and even insane. If it is my opinion that the moon is made out of cheese (analogous to believing Closer is one of the most controversial songs ever), then that may be my subjective opinion. But I am still wrong...and a highly uneducated fool.

As for arrogance, I might not have made it clear, you are arrogant, while being a moron, that's what I find annoying. If you made intelligent, valid points and would not randomly attack me personally with pseudo psychological evaluations, I am sure I wouldn't have a problem with it. As it is, you did it twice, for no reason whatsoever, so, go suck some cock, *******.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Laughable because your inaccurate evaluation of my personality and the situation is funny. You try to insult me with ridiculous claims, why should I mind them?

You gave an idiotic opinion and now try to dodge the obvious point by trying to make fun of me. Good for you, you are still an idiot for thinking Closer could in any way be considered as one of the most controversial songs.

And opinions might be subjective. But they can still be stupid, wrong and even insane. If it is my opinion that the moon is made out of cheese (analogous to believing Closer is one of the most controversial songs ever), then that may be my subjective opinion. But I am still wrong...and a highly uneducated fool.

As for arrogance, I might not have made it clear, you are arrogant, while being a moron, that's what I find annoying. If you made intelligent, valid points and would not randomly attack me personally with pseudo psychological evaluations, I am sure I wouldn't have a problem with it. As it is, you did it twice, for no reason whatsoever, so, go suck some cock, *******.


Took you long enough to come up with that, I was waiting like a day.

First of all, your comparison to my thinking that 'Closer' is controversial, is lame. The moon? Come on, dear Bardcock. Everyone in the planet knows the moon is not made out of cheese, saying something like that about a physical object is much different than a song. A song's meaning can be very different depending on what a certain individual gets out of it. You find my opinion idiotic, I do not. I find what you are saying to be moronic, witless, gay, and above all, stupid. You do not. It's subjective, so of course you are going to disagree with what I'm saying because you disliked me before I even posted in this thread due to my making fun of you before. You were biased subconsciously. I know you dislike me, and probably think I'm a raging idiot, but it's fun to pick on you because you get insulted rather easily. I'm sure many of you musical "elitists" such as yourself (don't cream yourself because I called you that) thought: "Hey, this guy mentioned 'Closer' as a controversial song, let's pick apart his opinion because we are so cool and oh so "elite", we've heard so many more". I've heard many songs that were more controversial than 'Closer', yes, but since NIN got discussed here, I find it to be worth said. When I first posted in this thread, it was the first thing that came to mind

Slob. Slob. Slob. Why would God waste good flesh on creating a worthless specimen such as yourself? Oh dear, Bardcock. It's ok, don't take what I say personally. It's all in good fun. You served your purpose in entertaining me. Going to put me in your stupid most hated list?

'Don't Fear the Reaper' is another. Now I'm sure you along with a bunch of other dipshits are going to say "No, it's not". I'm not even going to explain myself on this one, lest I have a conniption.

Hahahaha, you're clever.

As far as me, your father is concerned; you're BOTH morons.

Eon, you listed A song in the MOST Controversial Song thread, that's why you were called out as there are more controversial songs than that.

Bardock, stop being a mug.

-AC

Originally posted by Eon Blue
Took you long enough to come up with that, I was waiting like a day.

First of all, your comparison to my thinking that 'Closer' is controversial, is lame. The moon? Come on, dear Bardcock. Everyone in the planet knows the moon is not made out of cheese, saying something like that about a physical object is much different than a song. A song's meaning can be very different depending on what a certain individual gets out of it. You find my opinion idiotic, I do not. I find what you are saying to be moronic, witless, gay, and above all, stupid. You do not. It's subjective, so of course you are going to disagree with what I'm saying because you disliked me before I even posted in this thread due to my making fun of you before. You were biased subconsciously. I know you dislike me, and probably think I'm a raging idiot, but it's fun to pick on you because you get insulted rather easily. I'm sure many of you musical "elitists" such as yourself (don't cream yourself because I called you that) thought: "Hey, this guy mentioned 'Closer' as a controversial song, let's pick apart his opinion because we are so cool and oh so "elite", we've heard so many more". I've heard many songs that were more controversial than 'Closer', yes, but since NIN got discussed here, I find it to be worth said. When I first posted in this thread, it was the first thing that came to mind

Slob. Slob. Slob. Why would God waste good flesh on creating a worthless specimen such as yourself? Oh dear, Bardcock. It's ok, don't take what I say personally. It's all in good fun. You served your purpose in entertaining me. Going to put me in your stupid most hated list?

'Don't Fear the Reaper' is another. Now I'm sure you along with a bunch of other dipshits are going to say "No, it's not". I'm not even going to explain myself on this one, lest I have a conniption. You were waiting from 11:02 pm my time to 11:29 am the next day. Gosh...wonder what I might have done in that time.

And I did not equate your thoughts on a song with the substance the moon is made of. If anything I equated the actual controversy which the song created (a thing that is in no way up to subjective whims) to what it is made of. Both are things that can factually be known. It's like saying the Velvet Underground are the best selling band of all time...it's wrong. Can be proven. Closer is not one of the top controversial songs. That really should be the end of this story.

Few other points:

* I didn't dislike you before we got into this idiotic debate

* Even if I would think of myself as an elitist (which I don't, I am not particularly knowledgeable about music on a whole), it certainly has nothing to do with talking about the controversy a certain song has.

* You took it personal that people disagreed (justified) with your mention of Closer and went on a little rage trying to get personal

* It is NOT subjective

As for the "stupid most hated list"...yeah, probably, in time. You seem bent on making yourself out to be fool, a trait I am not particularly fond of.

And AC, you are 6 months older than me, you must have mad skills to be my father.

Originally posted by backdoorman
Hahahaha, you're clever.

Thank you very much. I'm here all week.

BTW, Bardock, you have good taste in music.

Originally posted by Eon Blue
Thank you very much. I'm here all week.

BTW, Bardock, you have good taste in music.

AC; Dad, I'm sorry. lol Thanks.

Originally posted by Eon Blue
Took you long enough to come up with that, I was waiting like a day.

First of all, your comparison to my thinking that 'Closer' is controversial, is lame. The moon? Come on, dear Bardcock. Everyone in the planet knows the moon is not made out of cheese, saying something like that about a physical object is much different than a song. A song's meaning can be very different depending on what a certain individual gets out of it. You find my opinion idiotic, I do not. I find what you are saying to be moronic, witless, gay, and above all, stupid. You do not. It's subjective, so of course you are going to disagree with what I'm saying because you disliked me before I even posted in this thread due to my making fun of you before. You were biased subconsciously. I know you dislike me, and probably think I'm a raging idiot, but it's fun to pick on you because you get insulted rather easily. I'm sure many of you musical "elitists" such as yourself (don't cream yourself because I called you that) thought: "Hey, this guy mentioned 'Closer' as a controversial song, let's pick apart his opinion because we are so cool and oh so "elite", we've heard so many more". I've heard many songs that were more controversial than 'Closer', yes, but since NIN got discussed here, I find it to be worth said. When I first posted in this thread, it was the first thing that came to mind

Slob. Slob. Slob. Why would God waste good flesh on creating a worthless specimen such as yourself? Oh dear, Bardcock. It's ok, don't take what I say personally. It's all in good fun. You served your purpose in entertaining me. Going to put me in your stupid most hated list?

'Don't Fear the Reaper' is another. Now I'm sure you along with a bunch of other dipshits are going to say "No, it's not". I'm not even going to explain myself on this one, lest I have a conniption. dont fear the reaper is not controversial! ok thats it you're going down!

Eminem's "Criminal" from The Marshall Mathers LP was really contraversial with homosexuals.

He created a firestorm with these lyrics:


My words are like a dagger with a jagged edge,
That'll stab you in the head,
whether you're a *** or lez,
Or the homosex, hermaph or a trans-a-vest,
Pants or dress - hate ****? The answer's "Yes",
Homophobic? Nah, you're just heterophobic,
Starin' at my jeans, watchin' my genitals bulgin' (Ooh!)
That's my mother****in' balls, you better let go of 'em,
They belong in my scrotum, you'll never get hold of em!


But then the Elton John thing happened with him and that seemingly squashed things.

Let's just make this "Controversial Songs".

-AC

Originally posted by Bardock42
Well, it had that whole Cowbell thing. Controversial to da max.

Very true.

And yes, this thread should be "The Most Controversial SongS".

Hmmm. This is a toughie.

I think everyone in this thread has mentioned songs that were controversial, but my pick would have to be some songs by Prince. "This Charming Man" by the Smiths, perhaps? How about F*ck the Police, Louie Louie, Closer, and White Rabbit?

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Let's just make this "Controversial Songs".

-AC

Well i really meant that that probably one of the most controversial songs that i've heard..

What do you think. Would you say that that song was controversial? I think so.

He wasn't just (only) doing it to piss people off. It also, indirectly, raised awareness with the homosexual bigotry that exists here in the U.S., in a way, with how prevalent yet sublet, or in this case blatant, it is in our society today.

Not that i'm gay, but anti-homosexuality is a big problem, yet a solvable one (maybe), in our society.

Like i believe if 2 gay people want to get married, who gives a shi*t. Let them do them and i'll do me..

What song are you talking about, FistOfThe North?

No, I agree, Fist.

-AC

Originally posted by XJezebelX
What song are you talking about, FistOfThe North?

Eminem's "Criminal" track from The Marshall Mathers LP album.

The Smiths had a fair few songs that created more controversy than This Charming Man, which wasn't very controversial in reality.

Out of songs I've heard I think Here Come The Butchers by NothingFace would probably be one of the most controversional songs.

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
Eminem's "Criminal" track from The Marshall Mathers LP album.

I love that album.

On a side note, This Charming Man was a great song; but like VVD stated, it wasn't that controversial.

Originally posted by Eon Blue
I love that album.

On a side note, This Charming Man was a great song; but like VVD stated, it wasn't that controversial.

well i say it was. I remember it being a big deal. I remember even seeing it on my local news @ 10.

It did create angst. So much so that Em did a duet with Elton John to make up. And everyone knows about the Elton John/Eminem duet they did with the hug at the end and everything.

I remember watching it and i was like wow.

I mean c'mon. When you're like the most influential rapper of your time, like Em was, with how influential rap was, and still is, (with how gargabe the game is now) and to sing stuff like "whether you a ffag or lez, or a homosex, hermaph or a tranz-a-ves, pants or dress, hate fagz? the answers "yes,"", that's bound to cause big controversy.

did you even read the post you're answering?

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i misread it.

I must've completely didn't get or see that he was talking about VVD, somehow.

my bad.

it's ok...we forgive you

Yeah, it's okay, it was easy to think that he just called you "this charming man", no biggie, could have happened to anyone.

the first thing that pops into my mind is "Yall should all get lynched" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrZ98ZieZjQ by NY Oil. Gonna read through the thread now..

eminem - just lose it

more controversial when it was released because of michael jackson being in court. some music channels wont play it

"The Ballad of John and Yoko" was very controversial when it came out in 1969. It is considered tame today.

EON BLUE !!!!


Chill out bro, dont let some lonely losers upset you man

I dont know if these two have been styated yet, but here ya go:

"F**k the police" by NWA

"B*tch" by Too Short

Angel of Death by Slayer.
**** the police- NWA

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
That is on every music channel. It's not controversial.

-AC at the time it was released some channels wouldnt play it

It's still not controversial.

-AC

Nirvana - Rape Me

Ice Ice Baby-Vanilla Ice
not in the sex blah blah blah way but the whole bs between that and Under Pressure by Queen

Cop Killer! by body count.

"No room for Ni**er" by GG Allin.

Ive heard two versions of its origin:

1) That it was written in a empathising with Blacks for the abuse they'd get at the hands of dumb society bent on perecuting those who are different to them...

2) That it doesn't mean "No room for black people" per say, but just for cheating thieving ******* scum in general. (Like the Chris Rockian "Black people vs Ni**ers" seperation thing)



Well I was shocked when I heard it.

For those who dont know about GG Allin, he used to perform on stage naked, smeared in shit (His and other people's) and would smash glass into his head so he'd also be covered in piss and blood as well as the poo.

He would rape people mid gig and would fight all comers while singing too.

Mike Patton got alot of his onstage persona and Angel Dust era vocal delivery from him.

A controversial song from a controversial man.

Originally posted by Dr. Leg Kick
NWA comes to mind.

Immortal Technique's- 'Freedom of Speech' comes to mind as well. i remember reading on his site that government officials investigated his home cuz of this song. hard to believe.

'Freedom of Speech'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCYbZZTEwiM

nothing really controversial comes to mind. i'll think about it. I'd have to say ras kass nature of the threat where he talks bout his view on religion, race, gays, and the government