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darthgoober
Ok so something similar to the Onslaught Saga or the Secret Wars happens again on Marvel Earth, and it causes every "A-List" Hero on Earth to disappear(but not the villains). With no more of Marvel's "big names" to draw from, you have to create a new Avengers team out of the 2nd and 3rd string heroes that remain to combat the villains who now feel like a bunch of kids in a candy store. Here are the stipulations...

1. None of Marvel's best. The team has to be made of characters who have never enjoyed the fame or notoriety of guys like Thor or Captain America. As a general rule of thumb, if a character was actually featured in any of the Infinity arcs(Gauntlet, War, Crusade) then he's ineligible. If they made a cameo or something like that it's fine, but if they actively participated in any of the major featured confrontations in the core books then you should look elsewhere. Also no Squirel Girl(since I know she didn't appear in any of those and is bound to come up).

2. The team must be made of Heroes or Anti Heroes with the capacity and inclination to work within a structured team environment.

3. The team must have between 7 and 9 members and a leader should be appointed.

4. It should be a balanced team with varying levels of power, tech, and both male and female members.

5. The team should have the ability to take down Marvel's remaining A-List Villains.

SaintSmurph
Hmm... hmm

Will post response upon further contemplation.

endrict
Pondering.... beer

darthgoober
Hmm... I've decided to lift the part of the stipulation regarding the Infinity arcs because after giving it some thought even a lot of what would be considered B and C list heroes got involved in some way or another. So just use your best judgement regarding what constitutes a second stringer and we can deal with things on a case by case basis.

endrict
This is harder then I would have thought.

darthgoober
Originally posted by endrict
This is harder then I would have thought.
Me too, that's why I lifted the Infinity arc stipulation laughing . I couldn't come up with a viable team either(at least one that could take down someone like Ultron or Dr. Doom).

pr1983
Originally posted by darthgoober
Ok so something similar to the Onslaught Saga or the Secret Wars happens again on Marvel Earth, and it causes every "A-List" Hero on Earth to disappear(but not the villains). With no more of Marvel's "big names" to draw from, you have to create a new Avengers team out of the 2nd and 3rd string heroes that remain to combat the villains who now feel like a bunch of kids in a candy store. Here are the stipulations...

1. None of Marvel's best. The team has to be made of characters who have never enjoyed the fame or notoriety of guys like Thor or Captain America. As a general rule of thumb, if a character was actually featured in any of the Infinity arcs(Gauntlet, War, Crusade) then he's ineligible. If they made a cameo or something like that it's fine, but if they actively participated in any of the major featured confrontations in the core books then you should look elsewhere. Also no Squirel Girl(since I know she didn't appear in any of those and is bound to come up).

2. The team must be made of Heroes or Anti Heroes with the capacity and inclination to work within a structured team environment.

3. The team must have between 7 and 9 members and a leader should be appointed.

4. It should be a balanced team with varying levels of power, tech, and both male and female members.

5. The team should have the ability to take down Marvel's remaining A-List Villains.

could you even give a general idea for those of us who havent read those? stick out tongue

SaintSmurph
Nova-Leader
Exiles Blink
Brother Voodoo
Jamie Madrox
Dead Girl
Doop
Nico Minoru
Box IV

Technically 8, but oh well.

Symmetric Chaos
Originally posted by SaintSmurph
Nova-Leader
Exiles Blink
Brother Voodoo
American Eagle
Dead Girl
Doop
Nico Minoru

"Also no Squirel Girl(since I know she didn't appear in any of those and is bound to come up)."

And we all know Doop really just SquirrelGirl in jelly bean form.

SaintSmurph
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
"Also no Squirel Girl(since I know she didn't appear in any of those and is bound to come up)."

And we all know Doop really just SquirrelGirl in jelly bean form. Sshh... smile

endrict
So i can pick people from the Infinity arc ?

DigiMark007
We could always just recruit Alpha Flight to our country. They wrote the book on C-listers slaying gods.

ermm

...and what are we considering A-list? Because someone like, say, BRB is practically Thor's equal, but down a notch in popularity.

endrict
Originally posted by DigiMark007


...and what are we considering A-list? Because someone like, say, BRB is practically Thor's equal, but down a notch in popularity.


^^^^Yeah, what he said.

darthgoober
Originally posted by DigiMark007
We could always just recruit Alpha Flight to our country. They wrote the book on C-listers slaying gods.

ermm

...and what are we considering A-list? Because someone like, say, BRB is practically Thor's equal, but down a notch in popularity.
Hmm... good question. Let's say that B-List means that they've...

1. Never had their own SUCCESSFUL solo series(though a mini series is ok).

2. Are never the "go to guy" in any team books their part of when the shit hits the fan.

3. Aren't considered to be an equal/counterpart to a mainstream hero. An inferior knock off's type is ok, but not someone like Beta Rayt Bill who's arguably just another version of Thor with equal power.

MightyEInherjar
I'm thinking guys from Excalibur, Alpha Flight, etc...but I don't know if they'd count, since technically they've had their own book for years now.

MightyEInherjar
I'll give it a stab...

Captain Britain
Balder
Ares
Nightcrawler
Jack Flag
Cloak annnd
Dagger
Heimdall
Talisman

I'm thinking that they could probably afford to take down Doom, Magneto, Stiltman...

Faceman
Here's my team of B listers....Good night.

http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa197/Face-Man/SquadronSupreme01-00.jpg

KK the Great
Originally posted by darthgoober
Hmm... I've decided to lift the part of the stipulation regarding the Infinity arcs because after giving it some thought even a lot of what would be considered B and C list heroes got involved in some way or another. So just use your best judgement regarding what constitutes a second stringer and we can deal with things on a case by case basis.

Would guys like Wonder Man or The Vision (somewhat big name Avengers, but still sort of B-list on the whole) count, or are they too high on the popularity scale?

nvrbeenwthagirl
Ok this is the best B Listers team I could come up with.

The Leader: Nova
The Brutes: Super Sabra, The Forgotten One,
The Powa: Pulsar, Genis
The Street Lvlers: Adam X,Domino
The Mental and Magicals: Tana Nile, Vengeance

tkitna
Corsair - Leader
Starhawk
Forge
Oracle
Impossible Man
Shamrock
Talisman

SaintSmurph
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
The Street Lvlers: Domino Yes! More recognition!

Mr. Slippyfist
Originally posted by Faceman
Here's my team of B listers....Good night.

http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa197/Face-Man/SquadronSupreme01-00.jpg That's like... F list losers. confused

Surely Darth has a limit on those types of characters...

Alfheim
Temugin (with or without rings)
Gilgamesh
The Shroud - Leader
Agatha Harkness
Bloodstone
Sleepwalker
Clea
Makkari
Deaths Head II

My team kicks butt.

Alfheim
edit sorry stick to the above list.

SevenShackles
Nova ~Leader~
ShatterStar
Domino
Forge
Vengeance
Stingray
Thunderstrike
Chamber
USAgent

im use they can kick somebodies ass.
O_o sleepwalker, Thunderclap & GreenGoblin are on my reserves list.

Alfheim
Originally posted by SevenShackles
Nova ~Leader~
ShatterStar
Domino
Forge
Vengeance
Stingray
Thunderstrike
Chamber
USAgent

im use they can kick somebodies ass.
O_o sleepwalker, Thunderclap & GreenGoblin are on my reserves list.

My team will kick your teams butt...so there. no expression

SevenShackles
Originally posted by Alfheim
My team will kick your teams butt...so there. no expression

maybe stingray O_o
>_> plus sleepwalker is on my reserves, so i have a mole within your team.

Alfheim
Originally posted by SevenShackles
maybe stingray O_o
>_> plus sleepwalker is on my reserves, so i have a mole within your team.

No hes my mole. no expression *pushes sevenshackles*

llagrok
- Justice (Leader)
- Nico Minoru
- Domino
- Hellion
- Morph (Pre-Proteus)
- Polaris
- Havok

Alfheim
Originally posted by llagrok
- Justice (Leader)
- Nico Minoru
- Domino
- Hellion
- Morph (Pre-Proteus)
- Polaris
- Havok

Yeah and my avengers kick your avengers butts to. no expression

llagrok
My team doesn't have anyone above high meta.

Alfheim
Originally posted by llagrok
My team doesn't have anyone above high meta.

Yeah so? Not the point, the point is that you lose. *pushes llagrok*

nimbus006
Better than naming who is allowed, why don't you list who isn't allowed, and make everyone else fair game.

They're certaintly far less characters who arent allowed then vice versa.

SevenShackles
Originally posted by Alfheim
Yeah so? Not the point, the point is that you lose. *pushes llagrok*

yeah buddy well you just talked your team into an asskickin!

my guys and llagrok can take your boys.

Alfheim
Originally posted by SevenShackles
yeah buddy well you just talked your team into an asskickin!

my guys and llagrok can take your boys.



You know ive got a sorcerer supreme on my team and an android thats downloaded Reed Richards database...and a guy that almost killed Doom = your team loses.

Hell Clea should be able to cancel out any probability manipulation.

TOAST!!!

Anyway whys it 2 on 1, you need backup cos you cant handle my team on your own.

SevenShackles
Originally posted by Alfheim
You know ive got a sorcerer supreme on my team and an android thats downloaded Reed Richards database...and a guy that almost killed Doom = your team loses.

Hell Clea should be able to cancel out any probability manipulation.

TOAST!!!

Anyway whys it 2 on 1, you need backup cos you cant handle my team on your own.

nahh i just wanted to let him in on the ass stomping =D

llagrok
Originally posted by Alfheim
You know ive got a sorcerer supreme on my team and an android thats downloaded Reed Richards database...and a guy that almost killed Doom = your team loses.

Hell Clea should be able to cancel out any probability manipulation.

TOAST!!!

Anyway whys it 2 on 1, you need backup cos you cant handle my team on your own.

I've got the guy who one-shotted Ultron.

And the chick who one-shotted Wrecker.

Alfheim
Originally posted by SevenShackles
nahh i just wanted to let him in on the ass stomping =D

Well anyway your team loses. Anyway its not fair I assemble a badass team and its not gonna kick anybodies ass....its just not fair.

Originally posted by llagrok
I've got the guy who one-shotted Ultron.

And the chick who one-shotted Wrecker.

Dr Doom > Wrecker and Ultron. Ultron ever taken on Galactus and Beyonder?

Reed Richards Database and Sorcerss Supreme...you lose. Who one-shoted Ultron?

golem370
Leader
Epoch- http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix3/epochcosmic.htm
Death's Head II- http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/dhminion.htm
Horus- http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/horusatn.htm
Iron Man 2020- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Man_2020
Jennifer Kale- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jennifer_Kale
Paladin- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paladin_%28comics%29
Rintrah- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rintrah_%28comics%29
Mister Jip- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mister_Jip
Kismet- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kismet_%28Marvel_Comics%29

llagrok
Originally posted by golem370
Leader
Epoch- http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix3/epochcosmic.htm
Death's Head II- http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/dhminion.htm
Horus- http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/horusatn.htm
Iron Man 2020- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Man_2020
Jennifer Kale- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jennifer_Kale
Paladin- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paladin_%28comics%29
Rintrah- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rintrah_%28comics%29
Mister Jip- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mister_Jip
Kismet- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kismet_%28Marvel_Comics%29

Why would you want paladin there?

Originally posted by Alfheim
Dr Doom > Wrecker and Ultron. Ultron ever taken on Galactus and Beyonder?

Reed Richards Database and Sorcerss Supreme...you lose. Who one-shoted Ultron?

I'm starting to see why Soljer makes fun of you.

Bentley
The HULK KILLER HUMANOID.

Sorry, I think I just coughed.

golem370
Well he like the Batman or Captain America of the team good fighter and just barely Superhuman but to make better I will take him out and add Rom- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rom_the_Spaceknight

endrict
Captain Britain
She-Ra
Polaris
Kid Omega
Lilith
Illyana Rasputin
Joseph
Giant Girl
Forge
Fantomex

Alfheim
Originally posted by llagrok



I'm starting to see why Soljer makes fun of you.

Im starting to see why some people have you on ignore. no expression

llagrok

golem370
Leader
Epoch- http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix3/epochcosmic.htm
Death's Head II- http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/dhminion.htm
Horus- http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/horusatn.htm
Iron Man 2020- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Man_2020
Jennifer Kale- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jennifer_Kale
Rom- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rom_the_Spaceknight
Rintrah- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rintrah_%28comics%29
Mister Jip- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mister_Jip
Kismet- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kismet_%28Marvel_Comics%29
Amber Hunt/Phoenix Force- http://en.marveldatabase.com/Amber_Hunt_%28Earth-93060%29
Mainframe- http://en.marveldatabase.com/Mainframe_%28Earth-982%29
Numinus- http://en.marveldatabase.com/Numinus_%28Earth-616%29
Stardust- http://en.marveldatabase.com/Stardust
Hyperion- http://en.marveldatabase.com/Zhib-Ran_%28Earth-712%29

Mr. Ree
Originally posted by Alfheim
Im starting to see why some people have you on ignore. no expression

I know why because I know who he is from herochat.

smile

DigiMark007
thumb up at the Death's Head recognition.

psy_blade
Meggan
M
Quentin Quire
Spidergirl
Strong guy
X23
Talisman

Muck101
Hawkeye- leader
shadowcat
Werewolf by night
Arachnia (with exoskeleton)
Forge
Gambit
Spidergirl

golem370
Could you imagine this team in a fight you would have Cosmic Awarness 3 Magic users 4 power cosmic users two superman types 3 High tech and then Rom and Death's Head II also

Faceman
Originally posted by Muck101
Hawkeye- leader
shadowcat
Werewolf by night
Arachnia (with exoskeleton)
Forge
Gambit
Spidergirl

Forge thumb up

KK the Great
This is sort of my standard lineup on this sort of thread. I'm not sure they all qualify as B-list. Maybe A-minus, but definitely with no true icons. Still, half of the teams posted so far are random assortments of cosmic beings, so I feel alright with it.

Leader: Wonder Man
The team is based around Simon taking a more proactive approach to the superhero aspect of his life, which he has often neglected. A major disaster in L.A. prompts him to recreate the West Coast Avengers, and he recruits people he trusts the most in the hero community.

Ms. Marvel
Also seeking a more proactive approach to her superhero career, Carol agrees to join Simon's new team as the tactical field leader.

The Vision
Pre-Disassembled, the Vision is an obvious choice for Simon's team.

The Beast
One of Simon's best friends, he agrees to come out to L.A. in a heartbeat.

Scarlet Witch
I dunno, I'd retcon House of M or something. Would anyone really miss it?

Quicksilver
On the team at Wanda's behest. Trying to redeem himself in the eyes of the hero community.

Raider
A one-time patsy of the supervillain Rampage, he is still in possession of the duplicate armor given to him to combat Wonder Man a few years ago. A good man at heart, he has been hesitant to use the armor for fear of being confused with the villain. He eventually confronts Simon, who asks him to join the team. Simon, after all, has a keen interest in redemption. This also gives him the opportunity to brush up on his munitions background, as Raider has no technical proficiency to speak of and relies on Simon for repairs and upgrades to the armor.

Spider
Wonder Man's former neighbor and wannabe sidekick who became imbued with a portion of Simon's ionic energy, allowing him to create ionic duplicates of himself. It had been revealed that Spider kept a portion of the energy when he gave the bulk of it back. Simon learns of this and asks Spider to join the team out of a sense of responsibility over the kid.

endrict
That's a A list, well most of them.

Alfheim
My team is still the best. no expression....with the exception of golems.

Mr. Slippyfist
Originally posted by Alfheim
My team is still the best. no expression....with the exception of golems. Hey hey, you you... no one f*cking cares. no expression

Martian_mind
Leader=Starlord
Big gun=Quasar
Mind-raper=Moondragon
Techno man=Forge
Semi-available pwnzor=Ikaris
Mini-big-gun=Vision
Team-Aquaman=Wonderman.

I give you the big 7 of Marvel.

llagrok
Originally posted by Martian_mind
Leader=Starlord
Big gun=Quasar
Mind-raper=Moondragon
Techno man=Forge
Semi-available pwnzor=Ikaris
Mini-big-gun=Vision
Team-Aquaman=Wonderman.

I give you the big 7 of Marvel.

We don't need any more fricking dykes flying around on green dragons.

We already have Nvr riding A.J around here.

Mr. Slippyfist
Originally posted by llagrok
We don't need any more fricking dykes flying around on green dragons.

We already have Nvr riding A.J around here. hysterical

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