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Classic thor.

Who takes this?

Team 2, barely.

how does it happen?

Team two ftw -- due mainly to team one's handicap, . kinda

team two

Originally posted by Galan007
Team two ftw -- due mainly to team one's handicap, . kinda
Lightray is pretty good thou.

Who should i sub him with?

Originally posted by Gecko4lif
Lightray is pretty good thou. Not really. srsly

who would you recommend?

Originally posted by Gecko4lif
who would you recommend? I see it like this...

Firelord vs. Lightray = Firelord.
Thor vs. Orion = Thor.
Firestorm vs. Surfer = draw -- .

Just MO.

Originally posted by Galan007
I see it like this...

Firelord vs. Lightray = Firelord.
Thor vs. Orion = Thor.
Firestorm vs. Surfer = draw -- .

Just MO.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f98/t462964.html

Originally posted by Galan007
I see it like this...

Firelord vs. Lightray = Firelord.
Thor vs. Orion = Thor.
Firestorm vs. Surfer = draw -- .

Just MO.

Orion vs thor = draw with orion coming ahead in power but thor in h2h
FS vs SS = draw
LR vs FL = IDK

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f98/t462964.html 'Insane' Lightray wasn't specified here.

Originally posted by Galan007
'Insane' Lightray wasn't specified here.

It's still with in his power.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
It's still with in his power. Not under 'normal' circumstances.

Originally posted by Galan007
Not under 'normal' circumstances.

Light ray has a case of the surferItis. He runs head first into fist.

What ever

Make it INSANE lightray

I can't see how Firestorm draws, or wins more than two against Surfer... but that's just me I guess...

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
I can't see how Firestorm draws, or wins more than two against Surfer... but that's just me I guess...

Firestorm is likely more powerful than any of the lanterns. Or at least it looks to be headed that way. They are many. He's the ONE champion of the Red.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
I can't see how Firestorm draws, or wins more than two against Surfer... but that's just me I guess... FS Matter manip >>>> SURFERS

but also surfer has power cosmic so...

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Firestorm is likely more powerful than any of the lanterns. Or at least it looks to be headed that way. They are many. He's the ONE champion of the Red.

Originally posted by Gecko4lif
FS Matter manip >>>> SURFERS

but also surfer has power cosmic so...

Firestorm can force people into the Matrix. He also has construct making power like the GL's.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Firestorm can force people into the Matrix. He also has construct making power like the GL's. By people, do you mean humans/lower than SS?

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
By people, do you mean humans/lower than SS?

Human's? I remember a couple of super powered people being forced into the matrix. And I was just giving examples of other Firestorm powers outside of matter manip.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Human's? I remember a couple of super powered people being forced into the matrix. And I was just giving examples of other Firestorm powers outside of matter manip. And notice the lower than Surfer comment...

Is he going to matter manipulate Surfer or something?

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
And notice the lower than Surfer comment...

Is he going to matter manipulate Surfer or something?
He deflected the OB, and that is impressive considering he doesnt have the s-shield or WW's aegis sheild

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
And notice the lower than Surfer comment...

Is he going to matter manipulate Surfer or something?

I never gave either a win. I'm just arguing for lightray and firestorm. :P

Originally posted by Gecko4lif
He deflected the OB, and that is impressive considering he doesnt have the s-shield or WW's aegis sheild He changed its direction back on Darkseid... however, I don't know the relevance to Surfer that has...

First it's matter manipulation, then it's the Matrix, and now it's 'deflecting' the OB... I don't get it needless to say.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I never gave either a win. I'm just arguing for lightray and firestorm. :P OK... Surfer can bound life force to the planet.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
He changed its direction back on Darkseid... however, I don't know the relevance to Surfer that has...

First it's matter manipulation, then it's the Matrix, and now it's 'deflecting' the OB... I don't get it needless to say.
They are building blocks

putting them together is your job

Originally posted by Gecko4lif
They are building blocks

putting them together is your job Ah, so that explains this then:
Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
I can't see how Firestorm draws, or wins more than two against Surfer... but that's just me I guess... Originally posted by Gecko4lif
FS Matter manip >>>> SURFERS

but also surfer has power cosmic so...
You answered me not seeing FS doing good against Surfer, with his MM being better... doesn't seem like a building block to me...

No it isn't. If you are possibly arguing for FS, then you should be the one trying to prove me wrong by putting everything together.

On another note.
I know all of FS's powers, or close... you don't think I could put it together another time? Because I have, and I'm still not seeing him stalemate Surfer.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Ah, so that explains this then:

You answered me not seeing FS doing good against Surfer, with his MM being better... doesn't seem like a building block to me...

No it isn't. If you are possibly arguing for FS, then you should be the one trying to prove me wrong by putting everything together.

On another note.
I know all of FS's powers, or close... you don't think I could put it together another time? Because I have, and I'm still not seeing him stalemate Surfer.

Firestorm has some form of Telepathy as well right? Really Firestorm can have any power he wants. He picks and chooses what he wants to do. But as I said, I haven't given anyone a victory. I can see firestorm beating firelord while insane light ray would be more than enough to hold off surfer.

They're hoping that Silver skin coloured people will be the new minority, so everybody's automatically picking FS because he's black.

Originally posted by Gecko4lif
Orion vs thor = draw with orion coming ahead in power but thor in h2h
FS vs SS = draw
LR vs FL = IDK

Naw, you've got it wrong.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Firestorm has some form of Telepathy as well right? Really Firestorm can have any power he wants. He picks and chooses what he wants to do. But as I said, I haven't given anyone a victory. I can see firestorm beating firelord while insane light ray would be more than enough to hold off surfer. So does Surfer. And unless his telepathy is above Moondragon with the Gem... relevancy?

Does naming off random powers mean he can do good?

That may be... but putting FS above every GL is bad enough to give me the implication that Surfer loses (and that FS is above every GL... WTF?)

Even if it's 'headed' that way... it certainly hasn't yet.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
I can't see how Firestorm draws, or wins more than two against Surfer... but that's just me I guess... What exactly is Surfer going to do to beat FS 8/10 times?

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
So does Surfer. And unless his telepathy is above Moondragon with the Gem... relevancy?

Does naming off random powers mean he can do good?

That may be... but putting FS above every GL is bad enough to give me the implication that Surfer loses (and that FS is above every GL... WTF?)

Even if it's 'headed' that way... it certainly hasn't yet.
Moondragon with the Gem couldn't Pwn a human being. She was pwned all of the time. She might as well not had it. She had better feats on her own than with the mind gem.

She could pwn Thor.

Originally posted by llagrok
She could pwn Thor.

thor has been mind controlled before yes?

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
thor has been mind controlled before yes?

Odin made him immune.

Originally posted by llagrok
Odin made him immune.

HMM. I could have sworn I've seen Thor mind controlled a couple of times.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
HMM. I could have sworn I've seen Thor mind controlled a couple of times.

Yeah, and then Odin made him immune.

Originally posted by llagrok
Yeah, and then Odin made him immune.

So when Odin dies, does the enchantments wear off? And if so, then does thor then have to recast the spell for it to take hold again?

Originally posted by Galan007
What exactly is Surfer going to do to beat FS 8/10 times? Knock him out.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Moondragon with the Gem couldn't Pwn a human being. She was pwned all of the time. She might as well not had it. She had better feats on her own than with the mind gem. What?

Anyway, in the same issue she put Prof X in a coma...

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Knock him out. lulz @ teh silver punches!!

Originally posted by Galan007
lulz @ teh silver punches!! Only punches can KO?

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Only punches can KO? Ahhh,
So Surfer is going to KO Jason wif teh energy attack?

Originally posted by Galan007
Ahhh,
So Surfer is going to KO Jason wif teh energy attack? Sure, why not.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Sure, why not. Cool..

Then I'll say the same about Jason KO'ing Surfer wif teh energy -- this way we both win.

Originally posted by Galan007
Cool..

Then I'll say the same about Jason KO'ing Surfer wif teh energy -- this way we both win.
What not gonna commit on my reply post?
i feel so unloved

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
That wasn't a question...

Also...
Surfer = nuke.

Intangible... so?

I know, I've already talked about that feat... I don't get why it was needed to be shown... especially since it's the size of a peanut...

He's shown that sort of power?
Didn't Jason Absorb and release enough power to knock out Upgraded kalibak?

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Didn't Jason Absorb and release enough power to knock out Upgraded kalibak? lol... Kalibak...

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
lol... Kalibak...

Regular Kalibak was already Mid herald lvl.

Originally posted by llagrok
Yeah, and then Odin made him immune.

I'd love to get a reference for that.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
He's shown that sort of power? Smacked Orion around, like the b*tch he is. kinda

Originally posted by Galan007
Smacked Orion around, like the b*tch he is. kinda Not that I disagree... but... that's the same one that couldn't break titanium, right?

Heh...

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Not that I disagree... but... that's the same one that couldn't break titanium, right?

Heh... He did break the titanium though. kinda

Originally posted by Galan007
He did break the titanium though. kinda After liek a hole issue!

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
After liek a hole issue! U gotz totalie pwnzerd!!

Originally posted by Galan007
U gotz totalie pwnzerd!! ur a n00bzer!!!1

shoo n00b.