WWH v Void

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leonidas
would their rematch end a little differently than their earlier go around? (you know -- the one where void broke all his bones and tutned hulk into a whiny, pathetic puppy-dog . . .)?

Tharg
Originally posted by leonidas
would their rematch end a little differently than their earlier go around? (you know -- the one where void broke all his bones and tutned hulk into a whiny, pathetic puppy-dog . . .)?


shifty


laughing out loud


I like this thread.

I say it ends differently

Symmetric Chaos
Originally posted by leonidas
would their rematch end a little differently than their earlier go around? (you know -- the one where void broke all his bones and tutned hulk into a whiny, pathetic puppy-dog . . .)?

Well since the power that made that possible didn't work on WWH I'd say it would certainly end differently.

tkitna
The Void would kill the Hulk. Unlike Sentry, the Void wouldnt sit there and let the Hulk punch him. He would be ruthless and end it quickly.

janus77
wasn't the Void effectively overpowered by Sentry?
the same Sentry who, going ALL OUT on Hulk achieved ... well frankly not a damned thing.


Hulk wins this, might be more interesting than the Sentry's confrontation, but no doubts about the result.

King Kandy
Originally posted by tkitna
The Void would kill the Hulk. Unlike Sentry, the Void wouldnt sit there and let the Hulk punch him. He would be ruthless and end it quickly.
I agree. It pisses me off how everyone says "WWHulk beat Sentry" without mentioning that Sentry spent the whole time talking.

Mr. Slippyfist
Originally posted by janus77
wasn't the Void effectively overpowered by Sentry?
the same Sentry who, going ALL OUT on Hulk achieved ... well frankly not a damned thing. He tested Hulk's stamina. smile

strengthkills
Originally posted by King Kandy
I agree. It pisses me off how everyone says "WWHulk beat Sentry" without mentioning that Sentry spent the whole time talking.

Hulk talked just as calmly at the climax of the fight,going by that measure he wasnt exerting any energy.

King Kandy
Yeah, but he was attacking while talking. Sentry just stood there.

lando005
void would beat hulk

hulk did beat sentry (in my oppinion sentry just venting on hulk because he is always holding back and is soo afraid to let go, so it was a nice release for him)

janus77
how would Void do any more than Sentry managed?
after all, Sentry did cut loose, as he stated. just that we know Hulk can take it and more.

Hulk wasn't even out to kill, so there's no indication of how quickly Hulk could have ended it if he'd hit Sentry with the intention of putting him down for good.

Void would basically be an easier fight, given that its weaker than Sentry proper.

CaptainStoic
First of all i don't know what comic you guys read but Sentry stated that Hulk was one of the few people that he could let loose on. This means that he was not pulling his punches.


Voids power is somehow different than Sentry's. The Void appears to be more supernatural, while Sentry is natural. In other words the Hulk would not be able to defeat a being that he could not touch, whereas the Void could touch him... I hope this makes sense. I don't see hulk winning this one ever, unless he can hit Void, but it seemed as if he could not when he was crushed in their first confrontation.

janus77
Hulk can smash astral forms, shadow demons and wotnot. part of his 'powerset'... crushing Strange's astral hands, beating the Destroyer, taking on some other character's shadow demons...


Hulk doesn't just smash tangible/physical matter but energy and other intangibles too.

Galan007
Originally posted by King Kandy
I agree. It pisses me off how everyone says "WWHulk beat Sentry" He did though. none

endrict
Originally posted by King Kandy
I agree. It pisses me off how everyone says "WWHulk beat Sentry" without mentioning that Sentry spent the whole time talking.

He did beat him.

Galan007
Originally posted by endrict
He did beat him. I said that 33 minutes before you.

FAIL. dur

endrict
Originally posted by Galan007
I said that 33 minutes before you.

FAIL. dur


Well...I want to jump on the band wagon also...so there:P

Kutulu
WWH for the win. People who say that Sentry was just standing there fail to notice that Sentry was attacking the whole time with his powers of light. Heck even the writers mentioned it.

guy222
wwh

FearOfBlood
The Sentry all out was way powerful than the Void!
WWH> The Sentry > The Void

WWH for the win (9/10)

FearOfBlood
Originally posted by endrict
He did beat him.

Quoted for truth.

King Kandy
Originally posted by Kutulu
WWH for the win. People who say that Sentry was just standing there fail to notice that Sentry was attacking the whole time with his powers of light. Heck even the writers mentioned it.
Yeah and guess what... His light powers were going to BEAT Hulk until his friends dug him out from under it.

smashyou
sentry beat void and hulk beat sentry

do the math

smashyou
Originally posted by King Kandy
Yeah and guess what... His light powers were going to BEAT Hulk until his friends dug him out from under it.

hulk wasnt even that bothered, it wa sjust annoying,

hulk BEAT sentry

Galan007
I don't see what's so hard for people to grasp...

Sentry = an emo b*tch, that got pwnzerd by Huc.... End of story. kinda

King Kandy
Originally posted by smashyou
hulk wasnt even that bothered, it wa sjust annoying,

hulk BEAT sentry
What comic are you looking at? Because in WWHulk #5 he was pinned by Sentry and couldn't get up until his friends helped him.

And BTW, Hulk didn't beat Sentry. Bruce Banner beat Bob.

smashyou
Originally posted by Galan007
I don't see what's so hard for people to grasp...

Sentry = an emo b*tch, that got pwnzerd by Huc.... End of story. kinda you cool cool

smashyou
Originally posted by King Kandy
What comic are you looking at? Because in WWHulk #5 he was pinned by Sentry and couldn't get up until his friends helped him.

And BTW, Hulk didn't beat Sentry. Bruce Banner beat Bob.

hulk turned into him on purpose, because sentry was as well

hulk and bruce are the same people because they turn bakc and ford on the planet saka

King Kandy
Originally posted by smashyou
hulk turned into him on purpose, because sentry was as well
There is NOTHING in the comic to suggest that.

smashyou
Originally posted by King Kandy
There is NOTHING in the comic to suggest that.

apart from then turnign into hulk a minute later no, off course he lost hulk power, it was nothign that made him STRONGER

fact

janus77
If Hulk was finished, at the end of his battle with Sentry, where did the green glow in Banner's eyes come from, what did that signify?

also, how did Hulk return - exponentially stronger - a few panels later?


face it, Sentry didn't 'stalemate' or otherwise stretch Hulk. Sentry went all out (all his energies spent) whilst Hulk just let him wear himself down, never going for the kill although its undeniable that he could have put The Sentry down any time (given the power-levels we know Hulk can easily reach). at the end, Sentry was worn down and Hulk didn't need to remain 'Hulked out' to deal with it, so ... after all, it is an established fact that Hulk does NOT fatigue, so ...

smashyou
Originally posted by janus77
If Hulk was finished, at the end of his battle with Sentry, where did the green glow in Banner's eyes come from, what did that signify?

also, how did Hulk return - exponentially stronger - a few panels later?


face it, Sentry didn't 'stalemate' or otherwise stretch Hulk. Sentry went all out (all his energies spent) whilst Hulk just let him wear himself down, never going for the kill although its undeniable that he could have put The Sentry down any time (given the power-levels we know Hulk can easily reach). at the end, Sentry was worn down and Hulk didn't need to remain 'Hulked out' to deal with it, so ... after all, it is an established fact that Hulk does NOT fatigue, so ... damn right

hulk wasnt even trying to win!!

lando005
Originally posted by King Kandy
What comic are you looking at? Because in WWHulk #5 he was pinned by Sentry and couldn't get up until his friends helped him.

And BTW, Hulk didn't beat Sentry. Bruce Banner beat Bob. hulk is bruce and sentry/void is bob there's no denying hulk beat sentry in that fight

endrict
Sentry is nothing more then a 2nd rate Superman with a bunch of shitty writers and fanboys. Superman or another 1st rate like him, can Beat any version of the Hulk.

The feats proves it.

leonidas
Originally posted by smashyou
sentry beat void and hulk beat sentry

do the math

it was more a question of whether the POWERSET of the void would make it tougher on hulk -- and the void, is, well . . . f'n crazy.

i still have a hard time figuring out how hulk would put void down, but i think void would have hell trying to injure wwh. be interesting to see a rematch, imo.

BlackJackStorm
Originally posted by King Kandy
What comic are you looking at? Because in WWHulk #5 he was pinned by Sentry and couldn't get up until his friends helped him.

And BTW, Hulk didn't beat Sentry. Bruce Banner beat Bob.

Amadeus Cho in tih#111 said Hulk BEAT Sentry. Deal with it.

BlackJackStorm
Originally posted by endrict
Sentry is nothing more then a 2nd rate Superman with a bunch of shitty writers and fanboys. Superman or another 1st rate like him, can Beat any version of the Hulk.

The feats proves i'm biased

Agreed.

BlackJackStorm
Originally posted by janus77
If Hulk was finished, at the end of his battle with Sentry, where did the green glow in Banner's eyes come from, what did that signify?



It means: get ready to break the world evil face

SaintSmurph
Originally posted by Galan007
I don't see what's so hard for people to grasp...

Sentry = an emo b*tch, that got pwnzerd by Huc.... End of story. kinda

Bouboumaster
Hulk smash puny emo.

tkitna
Originally posted by endrict
with a bunch of shitty writers.

Your absolutely right on this account.

Mr Master
I see alot of debate as to the exact circumstances of the fight,
let us all enjoy the entire battle and agree on the artistic depiction. smile
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Sentry vs WWH:

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I thought it was interesting that Hulk survived an attack from Black Bolt
that blew a chunk of Moon rock the size of Rhode Island into space:

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Let us proceed,

In the end, all I wanna know is, why did they both turn back to normal humans?

And why did Bob thank Bruce?


Enjoy ....


Let's get ready to do war!

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Mr Master
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Wow, Imo .... stalemate, until they turned normal and Bob says thanx and falls.

Did Sentry want this?

Was this allowed?


Thoughts?

Mr. Slippyfist
Originally posted by Mr Master
In the end, all I wanna know is, why did they both turn back to normal humans?

Pak stated that they exhausted themselves, I believe.

King Kandy
Originally posted by BlackJackStorm
Amadeus Cho in tih#111 said Hulk BEAT Sentry. Deal with it.
Oh yeah, that totally proves it...

tkitna
Originally posted by Mr Master

Did Sentry want this?


Yes

janus77
Originally posted by Mr Master
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Wow, Imo .... stalemate, until they turned normal and Bob says thanx and falls.

Did Sentry want this?

Was this allowed?


Thoughts?
I don't think Sentry cared very much either way. I think this was therapy to him, a chance to fully - fully - unload onto someone, someone who wouldn't be missed and was at that time seen as a major threat by the world. he says thank you because he finds relief and peace in that release.

I can't agree with the stalemate idea though. to stalemate it is to top out and not be able to push against the opponent any further. Hulk wasn't even trying. not in the least. he was pretty clear about how he would rather not fight Sentry, he even counselled Sentry on his neurosis (the "all that matters is that you choose" speech).

in all seriousness, this was an anti-climax as far as the overall arc of WWH goes, but it's more satisfying as a meeting of like characters. two troubled 'men' with 'monsters' in their depths.
only that, by this time, Hulk had firmly been established as a stable and dominant personality within (and without) Banner. as well as establishing that there is no real demarcation or delineation between them. Hulk is Banner, Banner is Hulk. it'd be like a kid in a school uniform and the same kid in civvies.

what Pak seems to say is that Sentry's power - at its maximum extent - managed to force Hulk into returning to his Banner form, leaving Sentry spent and done for.
however this isn't the same thing as suggesting Hulk was in anyway done exhausted. he plainly wasn't. in fact they go out of their way to show just how staggeringly powerful he can be when he really does want it - when he really does begin to unleash - with the whole Miek incident.

what we basically saw was a toddler going all out in his little psychotic fury, against a pretty short tempered parent. at the end of the day, the parent never intended to harm the child, but the child was never capable of harming the parent.

Inhuman
Originally posted by janus77
I don't think Sentry cared very much either way. I think this was therapy to him, a chance to fully - fully - unload onto someone, someone who wouldn't be missed and was at that time seen as a major threat by the world. he says thank you because he finds relief and peace in that release.

I can't agree with the stalemate idea though. to stalemate it is to top out and not be able to push against the opponent any further. Hulk wasn't even trying. not in the least. he was pretty clear about how he would rather not fight Sentry, he even counselled Sentry on his neurosis (the "all that matters is that you choose" speech).

in all seriousness, this was an anti-climax as far as the overall arc of WWH goes, but it's more satisfying as a meeting of like characters. two troubled 'men' with 'monsters' in their depths.
only that, by this time, Hulk had firmly been established as a stable and dominant personality within (and without) Banner. as well as establishing that there is no real demarcation or delineation between them. Hulk is Banner, Banner is Hulk. it'd be like a kid in a school uniform and the same kid in civvies.

what Pak seems to say is that Sentry's power - at its maximum extent - managed to force Hulk into returning to his Banner form, leaving Sentry spent and done for.
however this isn't the same thing as suggesting Hulk was in anyway done exhausted. he plainly wasn't. in fact they go out of their way to show just how staggeringly powerful he can be when he really does want it - when he really does begin to unleash - with the whole Miek incident.

what we basically saw was a toddler going all out in his little psychotic fury, against a pretty short tempered parent. at the end of the day, the parent never intended to harm the child, but the child was never capable of harming the parent.

Who is to say that after sentry heard hulks speech that(in that instant) had a realization and didnt unload all his power. Cause if he had a change of heart, at that instant that the speech touched him why would he want to kill hulk?

again speculations shifty

janus77
Originally posted by Inhuman
Who is to say that after sentry heard hulks speech that(in that instant) had a realization and didnt unload all his power. Cause if he had a change of heart at that instant that the speech touched him why would he want to kill hulk?

again speculations shifty
umm, Pak for one. he says that they reverted each other, thus Sentry wailed on Hulk to no effect and Hulk presented him with a big enough target to do so yes. doubt there's any room for speculation there.

it's the Banner-with-the-glowing-green-eyes bit that creates room for speculation. Pak's on record as saying that it was a moment of true 'equilibrium' between the Banner and the Hulk aspects. suggesting that Hulk wasn't out of gas or anything like it, just happy/at peace and not needing to hit out in rage.

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