The Superman-Prime Respect Thread
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Rorschach
The origin of Superman-Prime
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Rorschach
A small look at Prime's life before he got his powers
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Prime's power begins to manifest during the Crisis
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Another look at Prime getting his powers
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Pre-Crisis Superman seems to be impressed by Prime's speed
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Prime and Pre-Crisis Superman stop a tidal wave
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Pre-Crisis Superman says Prime is fast
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Using his telescopic vision
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Battles some aliens
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Used to be immune or highly resistant to synthetic red sun radiation
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Helps Pre-Crisis Superman build a device that will allow them to enter other Universes
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Pre-Crisis Superman vouches for Prime's power
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Prime survives getting blasted by the Anti-Monitor
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Prime leaves for the Paradise dimension, along with Kal-L, Lois Lane, and Alexander Luthor, Jr.
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Prime talking to Alexander Luthor, Jr.
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Rorschach
Prime alters reality by punching
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Prime doesn't like to be called stupid
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Altering reality once more
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Prime is responsible for bringing Jason Todd back to life
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Alexander Luthor, Jr. confirms that Prime is altering reality
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Rip Hunter confirms that Prime has altered reality
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Alexander Luthor, Jr. says something changed every time Prime punched the wall
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Prime wasn't even at full-power when he was altering reality
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Kal-L did not alter reality when he was punching the dimensional wall, only Prime altered reality by punching the wall
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Prime moves entire planets throughout the Universe at high-speeds
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Alexander Luthor, Jr. says Prime shifted the Center of the Universe away from Oa
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Prime takes Martian Manhunter by surprise and destroys the JLA Watchtower
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Destroys Lex's battle armor
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Prime takes out Power Girl with a sucker punch
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Prime Vs. Superboy
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Prime Vs. The Teen Titans, JSA, and Doom Patrol
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Prime counter-blitzes Jay, Wally, and Bart
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Prime punches his way out of the Phantom Zone and retcons Beast Boy's history
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The fight continues until Prime is taken to the Speed Force
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The same fight from a different comic
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Prime killed three people during that battle
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Prime is taken to the Speed Force
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Prime was too powerful for the Jay Garrick of another Universe
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Bart Allen had to absorb the entire Speed Force in order to get to the primary DC Universe before Prime
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Prime escapes from the Speed Force
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Black Adam's Magic charged punches only tickle Prime
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Shrugs off a punch from Martian Manhunter and takes the combined assault of Breach, The Ray, Nightshade, and Lady Quark
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This is pretty impressive since Breach alone was able to do this to Martian Manhunter
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Rorschach
Prime tells Nightwing that he wasn't even trying during his fight against the Titans, JSA, and Doom Patrol
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Prime Vs. Superboy and Wonder Girl
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Prime kills Solomon Grundy and some other heroes/villains
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Knocks down Kal-L, Wonder Girl, and Alexander Luthor, Jr. with one blast of heat vision
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Takes a punch from Bart Allen, at this time Bart was the Speed Force, so it isn't a such low showing as some people would believe
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Prime claims magic can't hurt him, ruptures Breach's s shell, and heads towards Oa
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Prime battles the Green Lantern Corps after breaking through a three-hundred-mile thick wall of willpower
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Kal-El and Kal-L take Prime through Rao, this depowers all of them
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Prime Vs. Kal-El and Kal-L
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Prime killed Thirty-Two Lanterns, he is imprisoned in Quantum Containment Fields surrounding a junior Red-Sun Eater, while guarded by fifty Lanterns at all times
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Prime killed more Lanterns than Parallax (Hal)
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Prime is freed by the Sinestro Corps and is now a herald of the Anti-Monitor
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Prime is with the Sinestro Corps because they're offering him something he wants
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Prime is waiting for his turn to kick some ass
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Prime causes members of the JSA to scatter
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Prime recalls the events of Crisis on Infinite Earths, Infinite Crisis, and his escape from Oa
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Prime plans on making the Anti-Monitor bow before him
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Defaces Bart's statue
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Prime battles several of Earth's heroes
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Superman-Prime Vs. Ion - Sodam Yat
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http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/primevsion9.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/primevsion10.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/primevsion11.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/primevsion12.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/primevsion13.jpg
Sodam Yat, after his battle with Prime
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/yatfafi.jpg
Prime is shown fighting Superman
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/primegirsup.jpg
Kills more Green Lanterns
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/primekillgl.jpg
His heat vision goes right through a Green Lantern and hits a Guardian
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/henshawblast.jpg
Throws a weakened Anti-Monitor out of orbit
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/throwweakam.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/throwweakam2.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/throwweakam3.jpg
Takes on the Green Lantern Corps, The Sinestro Corps, and Earth's heroes at the same time. Three Guardians attack him, but that doesn't put him down. One Guardian releases all of his energy and self-destructs
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/everyoneone.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/everyoneone2.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/everyoneone3.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/everyoneone4.jpg
This warps Prime into the Multiverse, atom by atom
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/everyoneone5.jpg
Rorschach
Sodam Yat feels he has to become stronger if Prime is still alive
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/noteno.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/noteno2.jpg
Prime and Power Girl are the only remaining survivors of the previous Multiverse
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/lastsuvi.jpg
Prime finds himself on Earth-15 while searching the Multiverse for Earth-Prime
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/enterearh.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/enterearh2.jpg
He kills the Superman of Earth-15
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/Zodkill.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/Zodkill2.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/Zodkill3.jpg
After killing the Luthor of Earth-15, Prime defeats the Justice League of that Universe
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/JLAkill.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/JLAkill2.jpg
He then kills Earth-15 Wonder Woman and Earth-15 Batman
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/killantlan.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/killantlan2.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/killantlan3.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/killantlan4.jpg
Then he destroys the Planet that is Earth-15
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/killplanet.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/killplanet2.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/killplanet3.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/killplanet4.jpg
Prime punches into the 5th Dimension and grabs Mr. Mxyzptlk
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/5dpunch.jpg
Prime tortures Mxyzptlk
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/primemxy.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/primemxy2.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/primemxy3.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/primemxy4.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/primemxy5.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/primemxy6.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/primemxy7.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/primemxy8.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/primemxy9.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/primemxy10.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/primemxy11.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/primemxy12.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/primemxy13.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/primemxy14.jpg
Ridley_Prime
Originally posted by Rorschach
A small look at Prime's life before he got his powers
http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/10/25/1539595/backstor.jpg
http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/10/25/1539595/backstor2.jpg
Ah. The geek side of him before he got his powers. =p
Originally posted by Rorschach
Pre-Crisis Superman seems to be impressed by Prime's speed
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/DC_ComicsPresents087_08.jpg
Huh...
Originally posted by Rorschach
Pre-Crisis Superman says Prime is fast
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/DC_ComicsPresents087_12.jpg
xd @ that last part.
Originally posted by Rorschach
Prime survives getting blasted by the Anti-Monitor
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/Crisis12-33.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/Crisis12-34.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/Crisis12-35.jpg
Darkseid.
Originally posted by Rorschach
Prime alters reality by punching
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/Realityalterpunch2.jpg
..... holy shit!
Originally posted by Rorschach
Rip Hunter confirms that Prime has altered reality
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/ripconfirms.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/ripconfirms2.jpg
Booster Gold! Yay.
Originally posted by Rorschach
Prime wasn't even at full-power when he was altering reality
Not surprising. 31
Originally posted by Rorschach
The same fight from a different comic
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/primevssuperboy8.jpg
He didn't mean to? Um... whoops.
Originally posted by Rorschach
Prime kills Solomon Grundy and some other heroes/villains
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/solomonkiled.jpg
Amazo?
Originally posted by Rorschach
Prime kills Solomon Grundy and some other heroes/villains
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/casualkil.jpg
And what happens to Doomsday there?
Originally posted by Rorschach
His heat vision goes right through a Green Lantern and hits a Guardian
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/henshawblast.jpg
Originally posted by Rorschach
Takes on the Green Lantern Corps, The Sinestro Corps, and Earth's heroes at the same time. Three Guardians attack him, but that doesn't put him down. One Guardian releases all of his energy and self-destructs
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/everyoneone.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/everyoneone2.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/everyoneone3.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/everyoneone4.jpg
This warps Prime into the Multiverse, atom by atom
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/everyoneone5.jpg
WOW!!!!!!!! That has got to be one of the most epic sacrifises made among the Green Lanturn Corps. Props to Prime for surviving this assault
, for getting sent to the Multiverse was of little consequence to him in the long run. Respect Superman-Prime! clap
Violent2Dope
How dare only one person post!? Superman Prime is your God!
Hey Rorschach, do you mind if I use some of these scans on a Respect thread for SMP I plan on making on another site?
Ridley_Prime
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
How dare only one person post!? Superman Prime is your God!
Indeed. -_- 434 page views and only 2 other users posting in it
... What's up with the rest of you people?!
Rorschach
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
How dare only one person post!? Superman Prime is your God!
Hey Rorschach, do you mind if I use some of these scans on a Respect thread for SMP I plan on making on another site?
Sure, go right ahead.
Just host them on your own image hosting account.
Violent2Dope
Originally posted by Rorschach
Sure, go right ahead.
Just host them on your own image hosting account. Oh okay. I gots a Photobucket account.
Violent2Dope
Oh and thank you.
Violent2Dope
Just thot I'd add sumthin. Mxy crying like a b!tch, begging his girl to close the portal to the 5th dimension forever, cause he's scared of SMP.
http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee224/Pyronftw/12-2.jpg
Ptr_Grifin
What issue was that in?
TricksterPriest
It's a good feat for someone. But, not for SMP. It's not Prime that Mxy's scared of, it's someone else. Didio himself said so.
Violent2Dope
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
It's a good feat for someone. But, not for SMP. It's not Prime that Mxy's scared of, it's someone else. Didio himself said so. Really? Can you show me the link?
Ridley_Prime
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Really? Can you show me the link?
Yes. I'd like to see it as well.
Violent2Dope
Originally posted by Rorschach
Pre-Crisis Superman seems to be impressed by Prime's speed I just caught this, in this scan, I think that is SBP being impressed by PC Supe's speed.
no_limits
who's didio, and please where's the article. perhaps it was a reference to bein scared of monarch
TricksterPriest
It's in the Countdown thread somewhere.
Galan007
'Recruits' a Monitor:
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/9385/sbp1nb0.th.jpg
Ridley_Prime
Originally posted by Galan007
'Recruits' a Monitor:
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/9385/sbp1nb0.th.jpg
Interesting...
And I guess that happens after the whole Mxyzptlk ordeal, right?
Superboy Prime
Originally posted by Galan007
'Recruits' a Monitor:
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/9385/sbp1nb0.th.jpg
Someone get that monitor a diaper. superdur
Rorschach
Prime isn't going to take shit from any of the Monitors
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/Primemonitor.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/Primemonitor2.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/Primemonitor3.jpg
Sundipped
Somebody please help this man!!!!
I mean Superman.
Ridley_Prime
Originally posted by Rorschach
Prime isn't going to take shit from any of the Monitors
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/Primemonitor.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/Primemonitor2.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/Primemonitor3.jpg
Heh. Awesome.
From destroying the entire Justice League (along with the earth) in one universe, to withstanding the Speed Force, altering reality by punching, withstanding a self-destruct from a Guardian of the Green Lantern Corps, etc... This whole SMP thing with him trying to find Earth-Prime just gets more and more exciting.
Originally posted by Sundipped
Somebody please help this man!!!!
I mean Superman.
He's far from being able to be helped now =( (as far as his warped morals and convictions go, due to all his years of solitude in that other dimension).
Rorschach
Superman-Prime Vs. Monarch - Next Week
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/Primemonpre.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/Primemonpre2.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/Primemonpre3.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/Primemonpre4.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/Primemonpre5.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/Primemonpre6.jpg
Ridley_Prime
"Impressive. But who'd be stupid enough to take a shot at me?"
Heh. I can already tell this is going to be great
, and if that really was Earth-Prime Monarch had ruined, SMP's definitely gonna re-pay that treachery.
Alfheim
Originally posted by Rorschach
Superman-Prime Vs. Monarch - Next Week
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/Primemonpre.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/Primemonpre2.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/Primemonpre3.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/Primemonpre4.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/Primemonpre5.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/Primemonpre6.jpg
Yeah baby!!!! Kick his ass SMP!
Sundipped
Originally posted by Rorschach
Superman-Prime Vs. Monarch - Next Week
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/Primemonpre.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/Primemonpre2.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/Primemonpre3.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/Primemonpre4.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/Primemonpre5.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/Primemonpre6.jpg
This is going to be good.
Endless Mike
After a Monitor shows him the war going on on Earth-51, he flies out of the universe and to that universe:
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/sbpcrossesuniverses.jpg
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/sbpcrossesuniverses1.jpg
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/sbpcrossesuniverses2.jpg
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/sbpcrossesuniverses3.jpg
Superboy Prime
Originally posted by Rorschach
Superman-Prime Vs. Monarch - Next Week
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/Primemonpre.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/Primemonpre2.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/Primemonpre3.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/Primemonpre4.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/Primemonpre5.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/Primemonpre6.jpg
Oh my god! Oh My god! oh my god!
Go Prime kick his ass!!
Alfheim
Bust dat ****** ass SMP!!!
Mr. Slippyfist
Prime vs Monarch
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Superman/Countdown13p02.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Superman/Countdown13p03.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Superman/Countdown13p04.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Superman/Countdown13p05.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Superman/Countdown13p06.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Superman/Countdown13p07.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Superman/Countdown13p08.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Superman/Countdown13p16.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Superman/Countdown13p17.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Superman/Countdown13p18.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Superman/Countdown13p19-20.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Superman/Countdown13p21.jpg
King Kandy
So is Prime dead now or what?
Superboy Prime
I doubt it.
Dark-Jaxx
So do I, they were building him up like that, just to kill him off? You don't b!tch Mxy and then die a few issues later.
Peek
He's in Final Crisis.
Maybe people should speak in the discussion thread.
Dark-Jaxx
Originally posted by Peek
He's in Final Crisis.
Maybe people should speak in the discussion thread. I thot so, SMP has been a constant in all the crisis'.
Rorschach
The scans are working again.
CaptainStoic
Nice scans Slippy, I had no idea that Monarch was that powerful, but is he more powerful than The Hank Hall Monarch... sorry if this seems like a dumb question, but I haven't really followed Monarchs appearances.
Juntai
Originally posted by CaptainStoic
Nice scans Slippy, I had no idea that Monarch was that powerful, but is he more powerful than The Hank Hall Monarch... sorry if this seems like a dumb question, but I haven't really followed Monarchs appearances. At the height of his power, Captain Atom - now known as Monarch, could create and destroy universes.
Dark-Jaxx
Originally posted by Juntai
At the height of his power, Captain Atom - now known as Monarch, could create and destroy universes. He could?
Rorschach
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/Contimefr.png
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/knokback.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/knokback2.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/knokback3.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/knokback4.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/knokback5.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/knokback6.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/knokback7.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/knokback8.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/knokback9.jpg
Ridley_Prime
Hmm... Did the Legion really survive?
Rorschach
Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
Hmm... Did the Legion really survive?
Yep.
xJLxKing
Can someone else to me why Superman-Prime is regulary stronger then the regular Kal-El? I haven't really been following Superman-Prime series.
vlaaad12345
Because he is precrisis and kryptonians were much stronger back then.
Dark-Jaxx
SMP survived a Big Bang at point blank only to come out fine with a tattered costume and is now in the 31st century about to kick some ass.
http://images.wizarduniverse.com/WizardUniverse/Previews/legion4.jpg
http://images.wizarduniverse.com/WizardUniverse/Previews/legion5.jpg
Erik-Lensherr
In a world that was apparently modified by Booster Gold's decision to save Blue Beetle, Prime has devastated OA.
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s132/Erik_Magnus_Lensherr/th_sbpbg1.jpg
It's also stated that him, along with the others, are fighting the GL Corps and winning
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s132/Erik_Magnus_Lensherr/th_sbpbg2.jpg
Endless Mike
That probably includes the Sinestro Corps, I remember them being mentioned in that issue as well
Superboy Prime
Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
SMP survived a Big Bang at point blank only to come out fine with a tattered costume and is now in the 31st century about to kick some ass.
http://images.wizarduniverse.com/WizardUniverse/Previews/legion4.jpg
http://images.wizarduniverse.com/WizardUniverse/Previews/legion5.jpg
Badass.
Phantom Zone
Damn so how powerful is SMP now? I mean if hes survived a big bang how powerful is that?
Galan007
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Damn so how powerful is SMP now? I mean if hes survived a big bang how powerful is that? It's a pre-crisis feat, at least. none
Erik-Lensherr
Let's not forget that when he ripped Monarch's armor apart and produced the explosion, the Guardian power-up pretty much faded away.
-K-M-
I don't know, perhaps the Time Trapper saved him from the explosion as we know he wants to work with him.
I would wait till the issue is out before making assumptions
superchron
http://images.wizarduniverse.com/WizardUniverse/Previews/legion2.jpg
Actually, its pretty clear he survived
Mr. Slippyfist
Originally posted by -K-M-
I don't know, perhaps the Time Trapper saved him from the explosion as we know he wants to work with him.
I would wait till the issue is out before making assumptions Originally posted by superchron
http://images.wizarduniverse.com/WizardUniverse/Previews/legion2.jpg
Actually, its pretty clear he survived
If Mungi didn't read this scan before saying that... I renounce my religion and worship Mungi.
No not really, but it would be neat.
Also, assumptions lead to ass juice. Again proven.
-K-M-
Where is that scan from? and no I had no idea.
Safeguard
Who is that guy with the hood and bandages on his hands?
superchron
That was Time Trapper, a Legion villain, and I don't blame Mungi, that scan was not posted yet. Here's the complete preview
http://www.wizarduniverse.com/050708legionprev.html
Hannibal-Lector
did superman prime survive and just need help being set through time or was he dead and time trapper brought him back?
superchron
Nah, all Time Trapper did was put him in the 31st century
Endless Mike
More people should know about the Time Trapper, he's one of the best DC villains ever IMO
Cartesian Doubt
Originally posted by Galan007
It's a pre-crisis feat, at least. none
Explosions that Big tend to knock people into other Dimesnions. He probably survived in a similar fashion to the way he survived the Exploding Guardian.
Superboy Prime
Originally posted by Cartesian Doubt
Explosions that Big tend to knock people into other Dimesnions. He probably survived in a similar fashion to the way he survived the Exploding Guardian.
So that means he absorbed Monarch's energy? I mean that is what happened when the Guardian went kamikaze.
Dark-Jaxx
That would be overkill...I mean seriously.
Superboy Prime
Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
That would be overkill...I mean seriously.
Yeah I agree with ye.
Sundipped
Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
Let's not forget that when he ripped Monarch's armor apart and produced the explosion, the Guardian power-up pretty much faded away.
It looked like the amp was completely gone when he ripped the armor off to me.
Dark-Jaxx
Hey did SBP really bring back the Multiverse as people have said?
Superboy Prime
SBP and Alexander Luthor brought back the multiverse in an attempt to find the perfect earth(Earth Prime) during the events of Infinite Crisis.
Dark-Jaxx
Yeah, but people said that's what SMP did when he punched the dimensional wall.
Superboy Prime
From what I remember all SBP did back then was retcon shit left and right, but whos knows.
Rorschach
Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
Hey did SBP really bring back the Multiverse as people have said?
No.
MSP
ok i'm just curios is prime a multiversal being?
Galan007
Originally posted by MSP
ok i'm just curios is prime a multiversal being? According to Rip, the ramifications of 'normal' Prime's tantrums were multiversal, in a manner of speaking - but does that make 'normal' Prime a multiversal being, in the true sense? Nah.
On the other hand, it was stated that Guardian amped Prime was literally warped into the multiverse. Tack on his feats of busting into pretty much any universe/dimension he needed to, along with beating the characters he did, and I'd say Guardian amped Prime was a multiversal(ish) being - with limited control over much of that power.
imo, of course.
Dark-Jaxx
Originally posted by Galan007
According to Rip, the ramifications of 'normal' Prime's tantrums were multiversal, in a manner of speaking - but does that make 'normal' Prime a multiversal being, in the true sense? Nah.
On the other hand, it was stated that Guardian amped Prime was literally warped into the multiverse. Tack on his feats of busting into pretty much any universe/dimension he needed to, along with beating the characters he did, and I'd say Guardian amped Prime was a multiversal(ish) being - with limited control over much of that power.
imo, of course.
Agreed.
Superboy Prime
Originally posted by Galan007
According to Rip, the ramifications of 'normal' Prime's tantrums were multiversal, in a manner of speaking - but does that make 'normal' Prime a multiversal being, in the true sense? Nah.
On the other hand, it was stated that Guardian amped Prime was literally warped into the multiverse. Tack on his feats of busting into pretty much any universe/dimension he needed to, along with beating the characters he did, and I'd say Guardian amped Prime was a multiversal(ish) being - with limited control over much of that power.
imo, of course.
I agree.
Board Walker
I wonder if Prime absorbed monarchs energy, if so, prime is pretty good at absorbing.
Galan007
I haven't seen this pointed out yet...
As we all know Anti-Monitor is, more or less, composed purely of anti-matter energy. That's why a Guardian was fried by a simple touch from him:
http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/9572/sbp1ch4.th.jpg http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/4219/sbp2dl5.th.jpg
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Yet Prime was able to literally fly through the heart of AM. This means he flew completely through the exact same type of energy that 'crispified' a Guardian, with absolutely no ill-effect:
http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/1095/sbp3qb5.th.jpg
That is an insane durability feat, imo.
Zack Fair
Damn right it is
Dark-Jaxx
Holy shit, I was not even aware of that feat.
AM energy literally unmakes reality and destroys it utterly.
SMP flew right through it.
Damn, just another feat for SMP it seems.
Hannibal-Lector
he also took the "moon sized granade" better than the AM... i do believe he gets caught in the blast cause when u see them pulling it down, he is hit by it and is directly under it to my knowledge
Galan007
A GL ring's reaction to Prime:
http://s2d1.turboimagehost.com/t/838710_sbp1.jpg
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Kills another GL:
http://s2d1.turboimagehost.com/t/838711_sbp2.jpg
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Magic = ineffective against Prime:
http://s2d1.turboimagehost.com/t/838712_sbp3.jpg
Ridley_Prime
Nice... and I like how Prime carved out his name/initial on the GL ring at the end.
Symmetric Chaos
He didn't, it was the ring that CosmicLord (I think) make from a piece of rubble.
Hannibal-Lector
Holy, im lovin prime and how the ring was basically saying GTFO to his own lantern
Phantom Zone
Originally posted by Hannibal-Lector
Holy, im lovin prime and how the ring was basically saying GTFO to his own lantern
LOL thats deep.
Zack Fair
Prime is god damn uber.
The ring shitting itself because of Prime was priceless.
Darth Raizen
Originally posted by Galan007
A GL ring's reaction to Prime:
http://s2d1.turboimagehost.com/t/838710_sbp1.jpg
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Kills another GL:
http://s2d1.turboimagehost.com/t/838711_sbp2.jpg
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Magic = ineffective against Prime:
http://s2d1.turboimagehost.com/t/838712_sbp3.jpg
Such ownage in this post.
Endless Mike
It should be pointed out that Mordru is a Skyfather - level being
Hannibal-Lector
Just a thought, with all the enragement of Superman/boy prime, i think its possible that he will be responsible for the creation of the red lantern/ red power rings
tsscls
Originally posted by Endless Mike
It should be pointed out that Mordru is a Skyfather - level being
Seconded
Endless Mike
Although I highly doubt he was using his full power in that attack
Zack Fair
Agreed, but it is still a good showing.
xJLxKing
Wow if I haven't said thi s before, Superman Prime is a beast. Btw, is there any more scan of him?
Ridley_Prime
Originally posted by xJLxKing
Wow if I haven't said thi s before, Superman Prime is a beast. Btw, is there any more scan of him?
*hopes so*
Sundipped
Originally posted by Galan007
I haven't seen this pointed out yet...
As we all know Anti-Monitor is, more or less, composed purely of anti-matter energy. That's why a Guardian was fried by a simple touch from him:
http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/9572/sbp1ch4.th.jpg http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/4219/sbp2dl5.th.jpg
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Yet Prime was able to literally fly through the heart of AM. This means he flew completely through the exact same type of energy that 'crispified' a Guardian, with absolutely no ill-effect:
http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/1095/sbp3qb5.th.jpg
That is an insane durability feat, imo.
Nice observation.
Didn't think much of it till u brought it up.
I'm Bran
Prime fights Superman (after Superman took him out of the city)...
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Superman/lotw08.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Superman/lotw09.jpg
Superman admits he can't defeat Prime (as well as his face being a mess after one punch by Superboy in the next time we see him).
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Superman/lotw13.jpg
Fights some members of Legion.
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Superman/lotw16.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Superman/lotw24.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Superman/lotw25.jpg
Breaks out of the focused older Sodam with more GL rings's construct while being weakened, by his sunlight being sapped.
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Superman/lotw26.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Superman/lotw27.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Superman/lotw28.jpg
I'm Bran
*forgot scan, might as well highlight what he did too*
Breaks out of the focused older Sodam with more GL rings's construct while being weakened, by his sunlight being sapped. He also smashed through a bunch of shields that other villians including Validus had trouble with.
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Superman/lotw26.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Superman/lotw27.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Superman/lotw28.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Superman/lotw29.jpg <
iceman24567
Prime couldn't be contained by 2 Daxamites, Superman or Sodam yet
but Bart Allen is suppose to pwn him? That would be pretty funny nice scans.
Prime#
Although I know it wont happen, how amazing would it be to see Prime accidently close line Bart in the first panel of the next issue, killing him instantly
xJLxKing
Well Bart suppose to have the speed force with him right? If so I can see him sending him to the speed force again. I just hope the fight doesn't become stupid and end with prime defeat like a little girl. I hope he goes down with glory and honor.
Zack Fair
Gotta love Prime physically and verbally abuse Superman.
I can't wait to see how stupidly Bart pawns him.
PowerCosmic
Wow! Great showings of Superman Prime. I don't know much about Superman Prime, but does he at certain points reverts back to Superboy Prime? I've noticed when the sun is up, his power is tremendous. Does that make him Superman Prime or is he always him in the first place?
Prime
Originally posted by PowerCosmic
Wow! Great showings of Superman Prime. I don't know much about Superman Prime, but does he at certain points reverts back to Superboy Prime? I've noticed when the sun is up, his power is tremendous. Does that make him Superman Prime or is he always him in the first place?
I think he only became older because he absorbed all that energy from that Guardian of the Universe who sacrificed his own life at the end of The Sinestro Corps War saga to destroy Prime (which actually resulted in Prime being warped into the Multiverse atom by atom) and because of that he aged rapidly as his muscles became swollen with power.
However, as Mr. Mxyzptlk told him...Prime's newer, older form was only temporary. The power he took from The Guardian was depleting and by the time Final Crisis: Legion of Three Worlds happens we can pretty much tell that all of that extra power is gone since he looks like a fifteen year-old boy again.
Nevertheless...he still likes to call himself Superman-Prime no matter how old he looks. Hopefully that answers your question. Oh and before I forget...this thread rocks. Kudos to the Threadmaker!
Galan007
I had to dig these next 'feats' out from under all the absolute crap ermm. Anyhow...
Prime kills Kinetix (a magical being):
http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/3493/prime1p.th.jpg
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Random Legion ownage:
http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/6149/prime2q.th.jpg
http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/4010/prime3.th.jpg http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/3420/prime4.th.jpg
http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/5602/prime5.th.jpg
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Prime = Time Trapper(!?):
http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/3889/prime6.th.jpg http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/1/prime7.th.jpg
kgkg
Legion of 3 Worlds owns so much action! Did they explain why kryptonite worked on prime? I can't recall
Prime being the trapper kinda make sense
Galan007
Originally posted by kgkg
Did they explain why kryptonite worked on prime? I can't recall Element Lad transmuted it, in the middle panel:
http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/9306/primeweak1.th.jpg
But other then that, nothing was explained.
Endless Mike
Maybe Element Lad figured out how to make it the same as the Kryptonite from his home universe
Galan007
^ Unless something's been retconned, that'd be the only way for kryptonite to affect Prime.
Prime#
Its been hinted that the "Threeboot" Legion is from a reconstituted Earth Prime. I think thats why the kryptonite "Threeboot" element lad made hurt SBP.
Galan007
Prime owns Wildfire:
http://s1d4.turboimagehost.com/t/1910118_sbp4.jpg
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After a brief battle between "Trapper-Boy-Prime" and the Legion, he is transported to his younger self. When the younger version of Prime attacks his future self, they are seemingly erased:
http://s1d4.turboimagehost.com/t/1910119_sbp5.jpg http://s1d4.turboimagehost.com/t/1910120_sbp6.jpg
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We then see that Prime has not been erased, but instead, has been teleported to his resurrected Earth-Prime.
However, we come to find that Prime's entire family had been following his comic story, because Earth-Prime is essentially 'our' Earth:
http://s1d4.turboimagehost.com/t/1910121_sbp7.jpg
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And because Prime lives on 'our' Earth now, he is able to shatter the 4th Wall , and speak to the reader/read the same comics we do..
"They think I'm powerless. They think I can't do anything from here.... They'll never get rid of me. I always survive":
http://s1d4.turboimagehost.com/t/1910122_sbp8.jpg http://s1d4.turboimagehost.com/t/1910123_sbp9.jpg
Galan007
Originally posted by Prime#
Its been hinted that the "Threeboot" Legion is from a reconstituted Earth Prime. I think thats why the kryptonite "Threeboot" element lad made hurt SBP.
http://s1d4.turboimagehost.com/t/1910142_sbp10.jpg http://s1d4.turboimagehost.com/t/1910143_sbp11.jpg
jalek moye
So they they have the most powerful superman who happens to be insane. Walking around in the real world
jasofisc
Originally posted by jalek moye
So they they have the most powerful superman who happens to be insane. Walking around in the real world
looks like he will have only time trapper powers now
Galan007
Originally posted by jasofisc
looks like he will have only time trapper powers now actually, it was explained in the story that TT's powers are exactly what prime will not be retaining - as those energies, and the person utilizing them, are in a constant state of fluctuation:
http://s1d4.turboimagehost.com/t/1913341_tt1.jpg
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if anything, prime will just keep his regular powers :
http://s1d4.turboimagehost.com/t/1910123_sbp9.jpg
iceman24567
Originally posted by Galan007
actually, it was explained in the story that TT's powers are exactly what prime will not be retaining - as those energies, and the person utilizing them, are in a constant state of fluctuation:
http://s1d4.turboimagehost.com/t/1913341_tt1.jpg
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if anything, prime will just keep his regular powers :
http://s1d4.turboimagehost.com/t/1910123_sbp9.jpg
him being the Time Trapper was one possible future
jasofisc
Originally posted by Galan007
actually, it was explained in the story that TT's powers are exactly what prime will not be retaining - as those energies, and the person utilizing them, are in a constant state of fluctuation:
http://s1d4.turboimagehost.com/t/1913341_tt1.jpg
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if anything, prime will just keep his regular powers :
http://s1d4.turboimagehost.com/t/1910123_sbp9.jpg
that makes a lot of since but 1. what part in the scan did it say that prime would not be getting TT's powers (in one time line he must have) to me it just said that anything is possible. 2. he said to his parents don't want what happened to his old girl friend to happen to them. I just assumed that, that meant something different then just killing her i could very well be wrong about that since they don't say what happened to her. 3. TT had red glowing eyes as well.
jasofisc
nice thread though i really enjoy it.
Endless Mike
There's something I don't get: If that Legion is from the Earth-Prime universe, and Superboy Prime is the Superman of that universe, then how could the Legion have formed there, since the Legion was supposed to have been inspired by the heroic deeds of Superboy/Man?
Phantom Zone
Originally posted by Galan007
And because Prime lives on 'our' Earth now, he is able to shatter the 4th Wall , and speak to the reader/read the same comics we do..
So Prime managed to get his earth back?
-Pr-
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
So Prime managed to get his earth back?
yup, but on his earth, everyone read the comics he's been in, so they know he's evil.
Phantom Zone
Originally posted by -Pr-
yup, but on his earth, everyone read the comics he's been in, so they know he's evil.
Hes not evil though. Hes screwed up and eventhough his actions are wrong I cant see why people cant at least sympathise with him ie 90 % of people in the same situation as SBP would have ended up evil as well.
Hes no Dr Light or Lex.
-Pr-
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Hes not evil though. Hes screwed up and eventhough his actions are wrong I cant see why people cant at least sympathise with him ie 90 % of people in the same situation as SBP would have ended up evil as well.
Hes no Dr Light or Lex.
he killed plenty of heroes, and mocked the ones that he didn't kill. sure, you have sympathy for the guy, but there's no excuse for what he did. he even allied himself with the sinestro corps and wanted to destroy the earth (and destroyed one in another universe). there's only so much leeway you can give a character, imo.
Phantom Zone
Originally posted by -Pr-
he killed plenty of heroes, and mocked the ones that he didn't kill. sure, you have sympathy for the guy, but there's no excuse for what he did. he even allied himself with the sinestro corps and wanted to destroy the earth (and destroyed one in another universe). there's only so much leeway you can give a character, imo.
Sure so if you were in the same situation as him you're pretty sure you wouldnt have ended up evil? Have you even been in any situation comparable to what SBP's been through?
-Pr-
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Sure so if you were in the same situation as him you're pretty sure you wouldnt have ended up evil? Have you even been in any situation comparable to what SBP's been through?
he's not the first so called hero to experience loss. most of the x-men have lost people. martian manhunter. superman. kyle rayner. batman. thor. the hulk.
they all lost people close to them, and they didn't turn bad. sure, prime going bad has reasons behind it, but he is bad. he's not simply misunderstood. he wanted to shatter oa. he killed e2 superman among others. and now look at him. he has a higher body count than lex and doctor light combined. just because he's not a rapist or a manipulator doesn't mean he's not a bad person.
Phantom Zone
Originally posted by -Pr-
he's not the first so called hero to experience loss. most of the x-men have lost people. martian manhunter. superman. kyle rayner. batman. thor. the hulk.
they all lost people close to them, and they didn't turn bad. sure, prime going bad has reasons behind it, but he is bad. he's not simply misunderstood. he wanted to shatter oa. he killed e2 superman among others. and now look at him. he has a higher body count than lex and doctor light combined. just because he's not a rapist or a manipulator doesn't mean he's not a bad person.
Thats not comparable SBP lost a whole universe. Secondly when all this happened he wasnt an adult (which makes it harder for him to deal with it Batman is still not comparable) he didnt have anybody to talk to and was even manipulated into thinking the heroes were evil, thirdly he was actually driven almost insane those examples are different. Its not just about him experiencing loss there are other factors as well which make it his situation different from the examples you have listed.
To elaborate further some of the reason why certain heroes havent turned out to be evil is because of the people they know eg Batman had Alfred the X-men had Professor X and Superman had his step-parents. How is a teenager whos almost been driven mad and is being manipulated to do evil supposed to turn out good?
Heres some food for thought.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superman:_The_Dark_Side
-Pr-
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Thats not comparable SBP lost a whole universe. Secondly when all this happened he wasnt an adult (which makes it harder for him to deal with it Batman is still not comparable) he didnt have anybody to talk to and was even manipulated into thinking the heroes were evil, thirdly he was actually driven almost insane those examples are different. Its not just about him experiencing loss there are other factors as well which make it his situation different from the examples you have listed.
To elaborate further some of the reason why certain heroes havent turned out to be evil is because of the people they know eg Batman had Alfred the X-men had Professor X and Superman had his step-parents. How is a teenager whos almost been driven mad and is being manipulated to do evil supposed to turn out good?
Heres some food for thought.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superman:_The_Dark_Side
he cared for maybe 3 people in that entire universe. i seriously doubt he gives a shit about a random alien on random planet #47.
he's old enough now to be accountable for his actions, and he still refuses to be.
i don't agree at all. yes, he was manipulated by alex luthor, but that just makes him look a hell of a lot worse.
superboy prime lived with earth 2 superman, a living legend. if that's not enough to keep him on the straight and narrow, nothing is.
yes, i read that book, and what happens in the end? superman redeems himself.
Premium
Pr. Not the place.
-Pr-
Originally posted by Premium
Pr. Not the place.
PZ asked the question, i was simply trying to provide the answer... shrug
Premium
The awesomeness of SBP should take up the page.
Any feats been missed out?
-Pr-
Originally posted by Premium
The awesomeness of SBP should take up the page.
Any feats been missed out?
i'm sure galan and everyone else has covered them all.
Phantom Zone
Originally posted by -Pr-
he cared for maybe 3 people in that entire universe. i seriously doubt he gives a shit about a random alien on random planet #47.
Obvoulsy losing his whole planet is going to have an impact on him.
Originally posted by -Pr-
he's old enough now to be accountable for his actions, and he still refuses to be.
Yeah because most teenagers who are trapped in a dimension tormented by memories of the past who dont really have anybody to talk and are being manipulated would end up fine. You keep ignoring the circumstances.
Originally posted by -Pr-
i don't agree at all. yes, he was manipulated by alex luthor, but that just makes him look a hell of a lot worse.
Yeah sure it does. SBP was already losing his mind and Alex is master manipulator it makes him look real bad.
Originally posted by -Pr-
superboy prime lived with earth 2 superman, a living legend. if that's not enough to keep him on the straight and narrow, nothing is.
No it isnt most of his time was spent staring at the wall going crazy and with Alex who was manipulating him.
Originally posted by -Pr-
yes, i read that book, and what happens in the end? superman redeems himself.
SBP may reedem himself, you are also ignoring the fact that like SBP Superman was manipulating into doing evil. That still illustrates my point.
-Pr-
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Obvoulsy losing his whole planet is going to have an impact on him.
how? he lost the people he cared about, but as you said, he was a veritable child at the time. he wouldn't have the capacity to recognise the deaths of 6 billion people, and even if he did, is he really going to care about every single solitary one of them? i doubt it.
he had SUPERMAN. there is no better role model.
does that excuse all the horrible acts he performed?
how do you know that? how could you know that? we only saw glimpses of their life in that place.
i'm not ignoring a damn thing.
how can he be redeemed? seriously?
When Superman was manipulated in to doing evil, how many people did he kill? How many earth's did he blow up? how many superheroes did he kill while whining about how he was the "real superman"
being mentally and physically controlled is not the same as being manipulated.
Phantom Zone
Originally posted by -Pr-
how? he lost the people he cared about, but as you said, he was a veritable child at the time. he wouldn't have the capacity to recognise the deaths of 6 billion people, and even if he did, is he really going to care about every single solitary one of them? i doubt it.
He may not have had the capacity to recognise the death of 6 billion but you're not just going to care about three people, obvoulsy you're going to miss your planet the things you used to do and places you used to go.
Originally posted by -Pr-
he had SUPERMAN. there is no better role model.
Superman wasnt present the whole time. SBP was losing his mind, is that his fault?
No Superman isnt enough. You really think if you were stuck in a dimension with nothing to do but have you're memories replayed back to you that Superman is going to be enough? Hes a teenages for christ sake.
Originally posted by -Pr-
does that excuse all the horrible acts he performed?
90 percent of people would have ended up the same way. Lets put it this way there was a street kid in Brazil that held up a bus with a gun, was what he did wrong, yes but if we knew what drove him to do that we would be more sympathetic. ( no parenting, possibly raped beaten up and shot at etc)
Originally posted by -Pr-
how do you know that? how could you know that? we only saw glimpses of their life in that place.
Lets put it this way, it obvoulsy wasnt enough because he was going mad. When you're going nuts that doesnt exactly help you make right decisons.
Originally posted by -Pr-
i'm not ignoring a damn thing.
how can he be redeemed? seriously?
When Superman was manipulated in to doing evil, how many people did he kill? How many earth's did he blow up? how many superheroes did he kill while whining about how he was the "real superman"
being mentally and physically controlled is not the same as being manipulated.
My bad I can comment on that in detail but Wolverine has done some pretty horrible things and im pretty sure hes indicated that Professor X has helped him keep on the straight and narrow. Batman had Alfred to talk to I wouldnt be suprised if he had parents like Promotheus he would have ended up screwed up as well.
-Pr-
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
He may not have had the capacity to recognise the death of 6 billion but you're not just going to care about three people, obvoulsy you're going to miss your planet the things you used to do and places you used to go.
Superman wasnt present the whole time. SBP was losing his mind, is that his fault?
No Superman isnt enough. You really think if you were stuck in a dimension with nothing to do but have you're memories replayed back to you that Superman is going to be enough? Hes a teenages for christ sake.
90 percent of people would have ended up the same way. Lets put it this way there was a street kid in Brazil that held up a bus with a gun, was what he did wrong, yes but if we knew what drove him to do that we would be more sympathetic. ( no parenting, possibly raped beaten up and shot at etc)
Lets put it this way, it obvoulsy wasnt enough because he was going mad. When you're going nuts that doesnt exactly help you make right decisons.
My bad I can comment on that in detail but Wolverine has done some pretty horrible things and im pretty sure hes indicated that Professor X has helped him keep on the straight and narrow. Batman had Alfred to talk to I wouldnt be suprised if he had parents like Promotheus he would have ended up screwed up as well.
so in short, you're excusing everything he did because he couldn't handle the loss he felt and alex manipulated him? that's what you're basically saying?
Phantom Zone
Originally posted by -Pr-
so in short, you're excusing everything he did because he couldn't handle the loss he felt and alex manipulated him? that's what you're basically saying?
Id actually prefer you to answer my post properly before responding to that. FYI Dan Didio doesnt see SBP as a real villain either.
-Pr-
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Id actually prefer you to answer my post properly before responding to that. FYI Dan Didio doesnt see SBP as a real villain either.
didio says countdown was "52 done right". he's not exactly the most knowledgeable. and johns has already built him up to be the nut fanboy that exists within dc.
as for your post, tbh, i just feel like we'd be going around in circles, and i don't want to derail the thread any further than it already has been.
Phantom Zone
Originally posted by -Pr-
didio says countdown was "52 done right". he's not exactly the most knowledgeable. and johns has already built him up to be the nut fanboy that exists within dc.
I dont see what that has anything to do with him thinking SBP isnt a villain. I think hes read IC.
Originally posted by -Pr-
as for your post, tbh, i just feel like we'd be going around in circles, and i don't want to derail the thread any further than it already has been.
Yeah whatever.
-Pr-
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
I dont see what that has anything to do with him thinking SBP isnt a villain. I think hes read IC.
Yeah whatever.
plenty of us read IC. what it has to do with it is didio's opinions when it comes to comic books. this is the guy that tried to off nightwing before only four years later making him the new batman.
lol, ok...
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