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Current GR vs the common Wendigo (no Mauvis in other words).

They fight in Australia.

No prep.
Who wins?

Ghost Rider.

Ghost Rider

He has heart.

Originally posted by Val
Ghost Rider

He has heart.

The Wolverine head in your sig looks like he's doing what nvr does over the weekends.

*waits for it to land*

Reported.

You are a pompous jerk.

Penance Stare has failed against Wendigo in the past, what else can GR do to Wendigo?

GR

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Penance Stare has failed against Wendigo in the past, what else can GR do to Wendigo? It's also failed against Dr Strange I believe...

Throw burning crosses at him... shoot hellfire at him... do huge area destroying blasts... throw DBZ fireballz at him ... chains... etc.

He seemingly got a lot more powerful, and more versatile.

Wendigo has fought Ghost Rider in the past with Spider-Man helping him. Wendigo basically was swatting them away like flies and it wasn't even a fully transformed Wendigo either

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
It's also failed against Dr Strange I believe...

Throw burning crosses at him... shoot hellfire at him... do huge area destroying blasts... throw DBZ fireballz at him ... chains... etc.

He seemingly got a lot more powerful, and more versatile.

No it worked against Strange, but the Wendigo curse is a punishment already and that's why it didn't do anything to Wendigo

...and? Guy basically can come back from having his heart ripped out and is immune to energy attacks noted by Snowbird/Shaman as he is protected by the Gods of the Arctic

He has, but enough to put Wendigo down for good? Not really.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
No it worked against Strange, but the Wendigo curse is a punishment already and that's why it didn't do anything to Wendigo

...and? Guy basically can come back from having his heart ripped out and is immune to energy attacks noted by Snowbird/Shaman as he is protected by the Gods of the Arctic

He has, but enough to put Wendigo down for good? Not really. I remember it not working against Strange before... he shrugged it off or something.
He also killed an Angle...
Just saying.

Guy? Guy is also in comics?

They said he was being staggered...

Don't need to put someone down for good to beat them...

How powerful is the Angel of Death

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
I remember it not working against Strange before... he shrugged it off or something.

When?

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist

He also killed an Angle...
Just saying.

Angels are not that tough, I have read that Clayton Crain mini that came out maybe a year ago. The Angels were "alright", but nothing special

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist

Guy? Guy is also in comics? .

Guy as in the guy

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist

They said he was being staggered...

Don't need to put someone down for good to beat them...

and if the likes of Alpha Flight with all their firepower and magical abilities could only stagger him it's not looking good for GR.

and how is he even going to do that?

Originally posted by King_Mungi
When? No idea... but I've seen it before... hold on...



Originally posted by King_Mungi
Angels are not that tough, I have read that Clayton Crain mini that came out maybe a year ago. The Angels were "alright", but nothing special I know.



Originally posted by King_Mungi
Guy as in the guy Ah... it all makes sense now.



Originally posted by King_Mungi
and if the likes of Alpha Flight with all their firepower and magical abilities could only stagger him it's not looking good for GR.

and how is he even going to do that? Looked like Guardian himself was staggering him...
Also, what happens if GR throws an object through Wendigo, and then explodes it?

I don't know, that's why I made the thread.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Looked like Guardian himself was staggering him...
Also, what happens if GR throws an object through Wendigo, and then explodes it?

I don't know, that's why I made the thread.

He wasn't, throughout the issue they basically could do nothing to Wendigo. He would heal...fast, but actually penetrating his hide is not an easy feat.

Here Wendigo takes a massive explosion and has literally no damage

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Originally posted by King_Mungi
He wasn't, throughout the issue they basically could do nothing to Wendigo. He would heal...fast, but actually penetrating his hide is not an easy feat.

Here Wendigo takes a massive explosion and has literally no damage

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4. http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t105/DC_CaptainComet/MonstersUnleashed09-48.jpg Well, it looked like he put him off balance with that attack... and since Alpha Flight didn't do anything really before that (except Mac, Wolverine... and Nightcrawler with a stick), I can't see how they are put with staggering him.

Of course... of course...

Looked like a pretty small explosion... and was that guy holding him off with a spear?
How would he do against a napalm (comparable I guess...)?
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Or a flaming object?
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It really didn't, and Shaman was doing things as well but we didn't see it all. Even comments on it, "protects him from the full force of our powers"

That explosion was said to be a "baby nuke" Meh! not as bad as a Canadian agent defeating Ghost Rider with sticky wires...and no I'm not kidding

Well considering they said he has Demi-Godlike durability, quite good actually

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Originally posted by King_Mungi
It really didn't, and Shaman was doing things as well but we didn't see it all. Even comments on it. As noted "protects him from the full force of our powers"

That explosion was said to be a "baby nuke" Meh! not as bad as a Canadian agent defeating Ghost Rider with sticky wires...and no I'm not kidding

Well considering they said he has Demi-Godlike durability, quite good actually

1. http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c133/A_Flight3/MasterEdition-17-1_cover_b.jpg Well... if we didn't see it...
Of course.

Baby Nuke... and looked nothing of the sort... it didn't even destroy that Church...

Classic.

Wasn't he driven off by a flare at some time in his career?

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Well... if we didn't see it...
Of course.

Baby Nuke... and looked nothing of the sort... it didn't even destroy that Church...

Classic.

Wasn't he driven off by a flare at some time in his career?

Still doesn't change the fact even Shaman comments he can't do anything to Wendigo while he is councious. He knows he is immune to whatever he could have done

It was down in the next page

Same issue, and I actually thought of something GR could do. Just use any old fire as apparently Wendigo is afraid of it with some hosts.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Still doesn't change the fact even Shaman comments he can't do anything to Wendigo while he is councious. He knows he is immune to whatever he could have done

It was down in the next page

Same issue, and I actually thought of something GR could do. Just use any old fire as apparently Wendigo is afraid of it with some hosts. But Genis can knock Wendigo around?

It doesn't really show the background from what you showed...

So... everything GR does would scare Wendigo?

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
But Genis can knock Wendigo around?

It doesn't really show the background from what you showed...

So... everything GR does would scare Wendigo?

Errr? He didn't, he hit him with a massive blast and Wendigo was none the worse for wear.

Those scans I posted are not the end of the issue.

Depends on which host? One host was fly swatting away Ghost Rider, while one was chased away by fire

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Errr? He didn't, he hit him with a massive blast and Wendigo was none the worse for wear.

Those scans I posted are not the end of the issue.

Depends on which host? One host was fly swatting away Ghost Rider, while one was chased away by fire http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/CaptainMarvelv3003-17.jpg
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OK. It's still only a church though...

Wasn't that the tiny monkey version (just wanted to point that out)? Also, current GR seems to fight a lot better (wait... wasit even Blaze who Wendigo tossed around), plus if the spirit takes over...
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It could turn bad.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
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I know and he was none the worse for wear from that either.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist

plus if the spirit takes over...
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It could turn bad.

Naaaa...like as mentioned he has demi-godlike durability, and is magical himself, plus has a healing factor that heals wounds in seconds. I would be shocked if he didn't survive it

What the hell? the above post is showing only half my post, well here's the other part...

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist

Wasn't that the tiny monkey version (just wanted to point that out)? Also, current GR seems to fight a lot better (wait... wasit even Blaze who Wendigo tossed around)

Little monkey? The one GR fought was a Wendigo that wasn't fully transformed not really a little monkey as he still dwarfed Spider-Man and GR. It was Daniel Ketch, who first got the penance stare and had weapons that directly attacked the soul. Don't dimish the feat, as Ketch was basically the strongest GR till now.

Didnt she-hulk and Wolverine take down wendigo recently.

Originally posted by SuperiorTech
Didnt she-hulk and Wolverine take down wendigo recently.

Yes, She Hulk did a fastball special and threw Wolverine through Wendigo's chest removing his heart. He still lived from that.


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She Hulk #16 : She-Hulk w/ Wolverine
Wolverine begins to track down the Wendigo in Canada, and finds out She Hulk was sent in by S.H.I.E.L.D to bring him in for unknown reasons. Wendigo severely slashes Wolverine and She Hulk’s gut open dominating the fight unless the dup used fastball special. As of yet it’s unknown what host this was.

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Originally posted by King_Mungi
I know and he was none the worse for wear from that either. But if Shaman is more powerful than just Genis... and Genis caused him pain...


Originally posted by King_Mungi
Naaaa...like as mentioned he has demi-godlike durability, and is magical himself, plus has a healing factor that heals wounds in seconds. I would be shocked if he didn't survive it That was just the spirit taking over...
He can do more than that...

Plus, even then, I do believe that WWH is more durable than Wendigo. It caused Hulk what seemed like massive pain.


Originally posted by King_Mungi
What the hell? the above post is showing only half my post, well here's the other part... OK.



Originally posted by King_Mungi
Little monkey? The one GR fought was a Wendigo that wasn't fully transformed not really a little monkey as he still dwarfed Spider-Man and GR. It was Daniel Ketch, who first got the penance stare and had weapons that directly attacked the soul. Don't dimish the feat, as Ketch was basically the strongest GR till now. He looked like a monkey... plus, I believe both Spider-Man and GR were able to harm that Wendigo...

Maybe... plus, all Wendigo did was knock GR away... and throw Spider-Man at him... not exactly dwarfed... or even beat.
Also, the only thing he did to Wendigo was hit him once (which caused blood ), and use the stare which didn't do anything anyway.
I can't see how weapons that attack the soul, and being the strongest have to do with anything if he didn't use attacks as such.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
But if Shaman is more powerful than just Genis... and Genis caused him pain...

Keep in mind the Larry host is not a typical Wendigo in the end his mind got transfered to a fish.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist

That was just the spirit taking over...
He can do more than that...

I know.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist

Plus, even then, I do believe that WWH is more durable than Wendigo. It caused Hulk what seemed like massive pain

Caused him pain, but that's about it it really didn't do any massive damage. Also WWH really didn't display a high level of durability actually he bleed many times from attacks Savage Hulk wouldn't have even bothered with.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist

He looked like a monkey... plus, I believe both Spider-Man and GR were able to harm that Wendigo...

Maybe... plus, all Wendigo did was knock GR away... and throw Spider-Man at him... not exactly dwarfed... or even beat.
Also, the only thing he did to Wendigo was hit him once (which caused blood ), and use the stare which didn't do anything anyway.
I can't see how weapons that attack the soul, and being the strongest have to do with anything if he didn't use attacks as such.

They were, GR used weapons that attacked his soul not the body, but that didn't do much in the long run as Wendigo was fine literally right after.

He didn't even want to fight them, as at that time he wasn't fully Wendigo then and even with that mindset he was treating more like pests. All he wanted to be is with Tamara, and once he was he calmed right down even Spider-Man noticed that's all he wanted.

Errr? Now your doubting Daniel's power/abilities in that fight, even making a non-transformed Wendigo bleed is impressive. To say he didn't do anything is faulty.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Keep in mind the Larry host is not a typical Wendigo in the end his mind got transfered to a fish. Does that mean he's less durable?



Originally posted by King_Mungi
I know. OK.



Originally posted by King_Mungi
Caused him pain, but that's about it it really didn't do any massive damage. Also WWH really didn't display a high level of durability actually he bleed many times from attacks Savage Hulk wouldn't have even bothered with.
Wolverine's claws is the only thing I can think of... and that didn't even effect him...

Other than that... getting a hole punched through him, and such and such.


Originally posted by King_Mungi
There were, GR used weapons that attacked his soul not the body, but that didn't do much in the long run as Wendigo was fine literally right after.

He didn't even want to fight them, as at that time he wasn't fully Wendigo then and even with that mindset he was treating more like pests. All he wanted to be is with Tamara, and once he was he calmed right down even Spider-Man noticed that's all he wanted.

Errr? Now your doubting Daniel's power/abilities in that fight, even making a non-transformed Wendigo bleed is impressive. To say he didn't do anything is faulty. All he did was hit him once though...

But even then, it didn't look like he dwarfed them, or beat them. I mean, before it sounded like he just absolutely wrecked them. But it's not exactly an accurate portrayal as neither side really did that much attacks (and Wendigo was weaker).

Like I said, all he did was hit him once. He didn't really do much... as he only fired two attacks (one being the Stare). Did he use weapons that attacked the soul? And if he did, even he should know that one attack isn't enough, especially a chain whip with no spikes...
I'd love to see a full fight between the two... but as it is, the one right now isn't the best representation, and the only thing that really shows anything, is him resisting the Stare.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Does that mean he's less durable?

To a degree I guess as he wasn't the true Wendigo he stole the curse from Andre.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist


Wolverine's claws is the only thing I can think of... and that didn't even effect him...

Other than that... getting a hole punched through him, and such and such.

Vibranium knifes, bleeding from punches, etc.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist

All he did was hit him once though...

But even then, it didn't look like he dwarfed them, or beat them. I mean, before it sounded like he just absolutely wrecked them. But it's not exactly an accurate portrayal as neither side really did that much attacks (and Wendigo was weaker).

Like I said, all he did was hit him once. He didn't really do much... as he only fired two attacks (one being the Stare). Did he use weapons that attacked the soul? And if he did, even he should know that one attack isn't enough, especially a chain whip with no spikes...
I'd love to see a full fight between the two... but as it is, the one right now isn't the best representation, and the only thing that really shows anything, is him resisting the Stare.

He was tossing them away, and like I said he didn't even want to fight.

Huh? Considering this wasn't a fully transformed Wendigo, and a Wendigo who didn't even want to fight was still swatting them away and really didn't even pay them mind while they were out for a fight and he wasn't, and he still was getting the better of the exchanges and easily too.

You must have read the 2nd fight then as in the 1st fight GR came charging in and Wendigo swatted GR on the bike and Spider-Man away, and then they came charging in again Wendigo grabs Spider-Man and tosses him into GR and sends them flying. Then it ends with Wendigo over-top of GR and Spider-Man trying to get Wendigo off with no avail and the security people broke them up. To say he only hit them once is wrong. Yes he used the soul weapons and like I said they really did nothing to Wendigo. Well as I mentioned which is the host as there are even some Wendigo that can transverse between dimensions.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
To a degree I guess as he wasn't the true Wendigo he stole the curse from Andre. Hmm...



Originally posted by King_Mungi
Vibranium knifes, bleeding from punches, etc. Have we ever seen vibranium knives on Hulk before? Plus, Hulk popped them out of his shoulders by shrugging.

Savage has bled from punches... the best example would be his last Abom fight (his face was f*cked even after he transformed back into Bruce).
Plus, you also have to remember that in the main series, that Hulk fought all of his fights in a row.

In the other appearances (Ie, not the main series), that didn't seem like the case (battle damage).


Originally posted by King_Mungi
He was tossing them away, and like I said he didn't even want to fight.

Huh? Considering this wasn't a fully transformed Wendigo, and a Wendigo who didn't even want to fight was still swatting them away and really didn't even pay them mind while they were out for a fight and he wasn't, and he still was getting the better of the exchanges and easily too.

You must have read the 2nd fight then as in the 1st fight GR came charging in and Wendigo swatted GR on the bike and Spider-Man away, and then they came charging in again Wendigo grabs Spider-Man and tosses him into GR and sends them flying. Then it ends with Wendigo over-top of GR and Spider-Man trying to get Wendigo off with no avail and the security people broke them up. To say he only hit them once is wrong. Yes he used the soul weapons and like I said they really did nothing to Wendigo. Well as I mentioned which is the host as there are even some Wendigo that can transverse between dimensions. Which isn't weird, considering he's still strong enough to throw people around tons heavier like nothing...

I know... however, like I said, GR only threw one attack (two, if you count a bike charge...). It wasn't a full out fight... from both sides, or even a good fight... It also seemed like Spider-Man was more of a hinder to GR than a help (he was the reason that GR was hit once, and because of Wendigo grabbing GR).

Again, GR only hit him once. I know Wendigo hit them a couple times. I'm not talking about that. Or everything that happened in the fight.

What soul weapons did he use? Was it the one chain whip that drew blood from Wendigo? Because other than that... you have the Stare...

Plus, again, IMO, the only thing you can really draw from that fight, is that Wendigo resisted the Stare. As Wendigo was weaker, and neither side really did anything that would put each other down.

Ghost Rider, taking out Black Heart in his own realm ruled out?

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Have we ever seen vibranium knives on Hulk before? Plus, Hulk popped them out of his shoulders by shrugging.

Savage has bled from punches... the best example would be his last Abom fight (his face was f*cked even after he transformed back into Bruce).
Plus, you also have to remember that in the main series, that Hulk fought all of his fights in a row.

In the other appearances (Ie, not the main series), that didn't seem like the case (battle damage).

Apparently the vibranium had an easier time to actually penetrate and stick into his hide better then Wolverine's claws

Yeah that's Abom, he was bleeding from people quite below Abom though.

Meh! as you know the more he gets angry the stronger he gets, so if anything by the end he shouldn't have been bleeding at all.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist

Which isn't weird, considering he's still strong enough to throw people around tons heavier like nothing...

I know... however, like I said, GR only threw one attack (two, if you count a bike charge...). It wasn't a full out fight... from both sides, or even a good fight... It also seemed like Spider-Man was more of a hinder to GR than a help (he was the reason that GR was hit once, and because of Wendigo grabbing GR).

Again, GR only hit him once. I know Wendigo hit them a couple times. I'm not talking about that. Or everything that happened in the fight.

What soul weapons did he use? Was it the one chain whip that drew blood from Wendigo? Because other than that... you have the Stare...

Plus, again, IMO, the only thing you can really draw from that fight, is that Wendigo resisted the Stare. As Wendigo was weaker, and neither side really did anything that would put each other down.

Yet catching the likes of Spider-Man is a feat in itself.

Also like I said Wendigo didn't even want to fight, so of course it wasn't an all out fight. However, the duo wanted an all out fight, but they kept getting back handed or tossed away.

His soul ninja stars which right into Wendigo's body attacked his souls

Well I was talking about that, but you made the comment he only hit them once which I commented on.

Never said he did put them down, but a weakened and non-vicious Wendigo was still treating the duo like they were nothing. So I'll ask again? Which host is this? as differents hosts gave Wendigo different powers, some even had telepathy.

Originally posted by id369
Ghost Rider, taking out Black Heart in his own realm ruled out?

I assume this is Johnny Blaze fighting so yeah

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Apparently the vibranium had an easier time to actually penetrate and stick into his hide better then Wolverine's claws

Yeah that's Abom, he was bleeding from people quite below Abom though.

Meh! as you know the more he gets angry the stronger he gets, so if anything by the end he shouldn't have been bleeding at all. Well, Wolverine pulls his claws out to strike again... so...

He's bled lots as Savage. It means little when it's from Hulk. Plus, the only one off the top of my head that did this was Thing, that was far below Abom.
And hes got teh hart!

Perhaps, but Hulk bleeding isn't going to stop him.


Originally posted by King_Mungi
Yet catching the likes of Spider-Man is a feat in itself.

Also like I said Wendigo didn't even want to fight, so of course it wasn't an all out fight. However, the duo wanted an all out fight, but they kept getting back handed or tossed away.

His soul ninja stars which right into Wendigo's body attacked his souls

Well I was talking about that, but you made the comment he only hit them once which I commented on.

Never said he did put them down, but a weakened and non-vicious Wendigo was still treating the duo like they were nothing. So I'll ask again? Which host is this? as differents hosts gave Wendigo different powers, some even had telepathy.
I know.


All out fight? Even if they did want one, Spider-Man seemed to hold back GR a lot. It would have been a somewhat more accurate fight (minus it being weaker) if Spider-Man wasn't there.

That was the second fight... but I forgot about that one.

Of course, but throwing around GR isn't going to stop him... especially not the Blaze version of today.

I said in the opening post "common host", meaning that even though it was a different host, its power seemed the same.
IE. First appearance Wolverine Wendigo, one that fought Alpha Flight, etc.


Also, this is Blaze.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Well, Wolverine pulls his claws out to strike again... so...

He's bled lots as Savage. It means little when it's from Hulk. Plus, the only one off the top of my head that did this was Thing, that was far below Abom.
And hes got teh hart!

Perhaps, but Hulk bleeding isn't going to stop him.

But they didn't even leave that long lingering damage

Others made him bleed, think She Hulk was another . Basically WWH was something Savage Hulk for the most part could have done.

Same thing for Wendigo

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist


All out fight? Even if they did want one, Spider-Man seemed to hold back GR a lot. It would have been a somewhat more accurate fight (minus it being weaker) if Spider-Man wasn't there.

Of course, but throwing around GR isn't going to stop him... especially not the Blaze version of today.

I said in the opening post "common host", meaning that even though it was a different host, its power seemed the same.
IE. First appearance Wolverine Wendigo, one that fought Alpha Flight, etc.

GR certainly wanted the fight, and Spider-Man even though he did get in the way wanted it as well. The only one who didn't want to really fight was Wendigo

No it's not, but that wasn't even a fully transformed Wendigo and timid..that's what's impressive about it.

There oddly is no common host for the Wendigo as each host he fluxes in power/strength. Also as of now, I just don't see what magical things GR could do to put that Wendigo down if Shaman failed. In the next issue of GR it's suppose to be pretty big, so we can wait for that.

GR FTW

Current Ghost Rider is the most powerful incarnation (excluding Angel of Death full potential GR).

He has enough in his arsenal to take out The Wendigo.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
But they didn't even leave that long lingering damage

Others made him bleed, think She Hulk was another . Basically WWH was something Savage Hulk for the most part could have done.

Same thing for Wendigo I know, just saying. Plus, neither did the knives.

Did she? I thought she got one-shotted hard...

Because he bled a couple times? Plus, he also never to my recollection showed pain from those punches... he just bled.

Of course... but, on the blood topic... GR didn't make Hulk bleed, he just 'hurt' him... a lot it seemed.


Originally posted by King_Mungi
GR certainly wanted the fight, and Spider-Man even though he did get in the way wanted it as well. The only one who didn't want to really fight was Wendigo

No it's not, but that wasn't even a fully transformed Wendigo and timid..that's what's impressive about it.

There oddly is no common host for the Wendigo as each host he fluxes in power/strength. Also as of now, I just don't see what magical things GR could do to put that Wendigo down if Shaman failed. In the next issue of GR it's suppose to be pretty big, so we can wait for that. And if Ghost Rider is being held back... how is that relevant?

I can't see how this is the best example to use... All he did was slap them around. Namor could have done the same if we follow that fight.

Well, I'd like Wendigo to have some feats without going over the top. So, the hosts that seem around the same power, feats will be used, etc.

Shaman's magic, and GR's don't work the same... and that's all I'll say about that.
Plus, would Strange's power work against Wendigo, just because Shaman's couldn't/whatever?

Of course... I can't wait. Should be good.

---

On another note... I found that "Penance Stare" on Dr. Strange... but it's in Dr. Strange's respect thread with no surrounding context. So... ya...

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
I know, just saying. Plus, neither did the knives.

Did she? I thought she got one-shotted hard...

Because he bled a couple times? Plus, he also never to my recollection showed pain from those punches... he just bled.

Of course... but, on the blood topic... GR didn't make Hulk bleed, he just 'hurt' him... a lot it seemed.

But they seemed to have done more damage

I believe they trade-blowed in a tie-in book and that's when it happened.

He did the moan and rwars, but considering Savage Hulk has taken class 10 blows in the past and never showed pain. Just gets madder and thus stronger.

But that's it, causing physical damage is key

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist

And if Ghost Rider is being held back... how is that relevant?

I can't see how this is the best example to use... All he did was slap them around. Namor could have done the same if we follow that fight.

Well, I'd like Wendigo to have some feats without going over the top. So, the hosts that seem around the same power, feats will be used, etc.

Shaman's magic, and GR's don't work the same... and that's all I'll say about that.
Plus, would Strange's power work against Wendigo, just because Shaman's couldn't/whatever?

2nd fight he was at the end, he wasn't being held back all of both of the fights

But it showed more then just slapping around though, soul attacks, penance stare, speed, etc.

Shaman's magic is without a doubt one of the best in the Marvel U., even Dr.Strange and Gaea believe this. So considering what Shaman has done, and the power he has. That's a HUGE feat.

Ideally no they shouldn't, as the Gods of the Arctic are the one who protect the Wendigo as they created the curse.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
But they seemed to have done more damage

I believe they trade-blowed in a tie-in book and that's when it happened.

He did the moan and rwars, but considering Savage Hulk has taken class 10 blows in the past and never showed pain. Just gets madder and thus stronger.

But that's it, causing physical damage is key All they did was hold his muscles in place for a panel or two. Wolverine cut his eyes, and was digging through his forearms.

Don't believe I saw a big battle from the two...

Class 10?

And I was asking how much it would have hurt Wendigo.


Originally posted by King_Mungi
2nd fight he was at the end, he wasn't being held back all of both of the fights

But it showed more then just slapping around though, soul attacks, penance stare, speed, etc.

Shaman's magic is without a doubt one of the best in the Marvel U., even Dr.Strange and Gaea believe this. So considering what Shaman has done, and the power he has. That's a HUGE feat.

Ideally no they shouldn't, as the Gods of the Arctic are the one who protect the Wendigo as they created the curse. And he did attacks that don't affect Wendigo anyway...
Considering Johnny doesn't fight like Danny... and doesn't use soul attacks like that. Wendigo might get lucky and get the PS, but that's about it... because other than that, Johnny is going to attack the body (which, oddly enough, has worked in the past).

The Penance Stare, and the Soul Attacks are really the only things you can gather out of that (minus Spider-Man getting caught). They won't work, fair enough, but the rest of the battle isn't exactly the best example for this fight. As, other than the last battle I guess... Namor could have done the same thing.

Huge feat... maybe, but again, they don't work the same. Plus, are most of GR's attacks even considered purely magical?
Is the Wrath of God magical (Marvel)?

Intriguing...

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
All they did was hold his muscles in place for a panel or two. Wolverine cut his eyes, and was digging through his forearms.

Don't believe I saw a big battle from the two...

Class 10?

And I was asking how much it would have hurt Wendigo.

Wolverine's eye attack literally did nothing as Hulk didn't even skip a beat from it.

Class 100, just a typo

There wasn't, very fast but still blows made him bleed

Hurt, but not do much in real damage.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
And he did attacks that don't affect Wendigo anyway...
Considering Johnny doesn't fight like Danny... and doesn't use soul attacks like that. Wendigo might get lucky and get the PS, but that's about it... because other than that, Johnny is going to attack the body (which, oddly enough, has worked in the past).

The Penance Stare, and the Soul Attacks are really the only things you can gather out of that (minus Spider-Man getting caught). They won't work, fair enough, but the rest of the battle isn't exactly the best example for this fight. As, other than the last battle I guess... Namor could have done the same thing.

Huge feat... maybe, but again, they don't work the same. Plus, are most of GR's attacks even considered purely magical?
Is the Wrath of God magical (Marvel)?

Which strengthens Wendigo's case, as what could GR do? Danny WAS always stronger then Johnny, it's only recently it's changing as Blaze is getting Daniel's past powers and now their getting augmented. Yeah and one Wendigo was killed by Sabretooth in minutes, that's what you call PIS.

Ummm..Wendigo caught Spider-Man a few times, so why is it minus? That doesn't make sense. No he really couldn't, as what your saying below his powers work definetly and can take different kind of attacks.

Maybe? It is a huge feat, you know what Shaman is capable of..and if you don't, you should. Even if they don't work the same, what can GR do that Shaman couldn't do? Also yeah they generally are as they were demonic in nature as his essence challened into the attacks. Now with the wrath of god, who knows maybe next issue will explain it.

No one really has said HOW GR is going to beat Wendigo.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Wolverine's eye attack literally did nothing as Hulk didn't even skip a beat from it.

Class 100, just a typo

There wasn't, very fast but still blows made him bleed

Hurt, but not do much in real damage. He got hurt from it...

Ah. OK then. As a couple class 100 punches had no effect on WWH.
Also, earlier in GR's fight, he did nothing to Hulk... Hulk just laughed at him. And even regular one is pretty powerful.

OK.

And if he unleashes more than that?



Originally posted by King_Mungi
Which strengthens Wendigo's case, as what could GR do? Danny WAS always stronger then Johnny, it's only recently it's changing as Blaze is getting Daniel's past powers and now their getting augmented. Yeah and one Wendigo was killed by Sabretooth in minutes, that's what you call PIS.

Ummm..Wendigo caught Spider-Man a few times, so why is it minus? That doesn't make sense. No he really couldn't, as what your saying below his powers work definetly and can take different kind of attacks.

Maybe? It is a huge feat, you know what Shaman is capable of..and if you don't, you should. Even if they don't work the same, what can GR do that Shaman couldn't do? Also yeah they generally are as they were demonic in nature as his essence challened into the attacks. Now with the wrath of god, who knows maybe next issue will explain it.

No one really has said HOW GR is going to beat Wendigo. Huge blasts, chain whips, throws exploding sharp shit at him, a lot of kinky stuff basically... I don't know, I've never said who would win, I believe.
So, if Johnny is more powerful... ermm

I said 'minus', as in, I wasn't talking about Spider-Man. I was only using GR.

It's one word. Don't look too far into it.
So, Shaman knows exactly what every attack would do, or what it could do in every fight? I'm sure even the 'great' Shaman doesn't do this in every fight. Hell, we didn't even know what he was doing... well, I didn't anyway...
Also, I believe Shaman admitted that Strange was better than him...

Ask them.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
He got hurt from it...

Ah. OK then. As a couple class 100 punches had no effect on WWH.
Also, earlier in GR's fight, he did nothing to Hulk... Hulk just laughed at him. And even regular one is pretty powerful.

And if he unleashes more than that?

Not seriously as he then proceeded to take Wolverine out quite easily

Class 100 punches have had no effect on Savage Hulk as well. Actually Ghost Rider has defeated Hulk in the past, by burning out all the air around him causing him to pass out.

*shrugs* With demi-godlike durability he shouldn't be in bad shape but you never know.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist

Huge blasts, chain whips, throws exploding sharp shit at him, a lot of kinky stuff basically... I don't know, I've never said who would win, I believe.
So, if Johnny is more powerful... ermm

I said 'minus', as in, I wasn't talking about Spider-Man. I was only using GR.

It's one word. Don't look too far into it.
So, Shaman knows exactly what every attack would do, or what it could do in every fight? I'm sure even the 'great' Shaman doesn't do this in every fight. Hell, we didn't even know what he was doing... well, I didn't anyway...
Also, I believe Shaman admitted that Strange was better than him...

Ask them.

and I don't see how half of that stuff is actually going to do any long lasting damage, or damage to Wendigo. Even classic Guardian merely staggered him but did nothing of real note worthy against him due to the Gods spell.

Ok

Since he has indepth knowledge about Wendigo from communication from the spirits and talking to the Gods of the Arctic themselves I think its safe to assume the 'great' Shaman is an expert in the manner . Snowbird a child of the Gods of the Arctic agreed on the manner as well.

Strange IS better, but the fight when Dr.Strange recently fought GR was a fight Dr.Strange could have won but had a breakdown as he thought he killed GR and in turn damned the world.

I'm not saying Wendigo wins myself, just informing the public.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Not seriously as he then proceeded to take Wolverine out quite easily

Class 100 punches have had no effect on Savage Hulk as well. Actually Ghost Rider has defeated Hulk in the past, by burning out all the air around him causing him to pass out.

*shrugs* With demi-godlike durability he shouldn't be in bad shape but you never know. And...
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Hulk/hulkvsxmen12.jpg

I know... but lower have as well, if we're going to get into that...

And he couldn't defeat WWH normal... I don't see where this is going.

Perhaps.



Originally posted by King_Mungi
and I don't see how half of that stuff is actually going to do any long lasting damage, or damage to Wendigo. Even classic Guardian merely staggered him but did nothing of real note worthy against him due to the Gods spell.

Ok

Since he has indepth knowledge about Wendigo from communication from the spirits and talking to the Gods of the Arctic themselves I think its safe to assume the 'great' Shaman is an expert in the manner . Snowbird a child of the Gods of the Arctic agreed on the manner as well.

Strange IS better, but the fight when Dr.Strange recently fought GR was a fight Dr.Strange could have won but had a breakdown as he thought he killed GR and in turn damned the world.

I'm not saying Wendigo wins myself, just informing the public. It worked fine against Satan... perhaps it won't, perhaps it will... that's why I made the thread.
Good point...

Perhaps.

So, he was using this knowledge then? Why didn't he just transform into a Wolverine then...

Meh, it just showed the Penance Stare... plus, he basically beat Johnny, and when the Spirit took over...
Plus, I don't see how him paying attention would have stopped him anyway.

Of course... of course.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
And...
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Hulk/hulkvsxmen12.jpg

I know... but lower have as well, if we're going to get into that...

And he couldn't defeat WWH normal... I don't see where this is going.

Perhaps.

Sorry can you explain what's happening in the scan as I can't open it. Every time I click it, my comp locks up

But at his average levels he basically did what WWH did and more though. WWH really didn't impress me till the Sentry fight.

Well I believe Dr.Strange said he was capable of defeating him or something along those lines.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
It worked fine against Satan... perhaps it won't, perhaps it will... that's why I made the thread.

So, he was using this knowledge then? Why didn't he just transform into a Wolverine then...

Meh, it just showed the Penance Stare... plus, he basically beat Johnny, and when the Spirit took over...
Plus, I don't see how him paying attention would have stopped him anyway.

Well Satan gave him the boost in power so he could escape, and actually wants him to kill his 616 avatars *shrugs* I really really really hope the last Devil host shows uber skills as thus far, Lucifer doesn't seem that uber. I think there's 2 or 3 avatars left now or something? Could his magic work on Wendigo? *shrugs* Can't say it can or can't for certain.

*Shrugs* Not sure, he seemed to know his power wouldn't stop him. He might have did stuff off-panel and that's how he came to that conclusion or knew otherwise right off the bat. He can't, because he isn't a child of the Gods

Well he was kneeled over crying and that's when GR used his chains to bind DS and gave him the penance stare.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Sorry can you explain what's happening in the scan as I can't open it. Every time I click it, my comp locks up

But at his average levels he basically did what WWH did and more though. WWH really didn't impress me till the Sentry fight.

Well I believe Dr.Strange said he was capable of defeating him or something along those lines. You can't view Photobucket?
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/hp2.gif

Anyway... Huc pops out the knives, gets grabbed, and headbut KO's Warpath. He took out Warpath far easier than he took out Wolves miser.

OK. Doesn't change the fact that he was shown as far stronger than he usually is.

Doc was able to one shot Savage Hulk... if he had his hands, there's no reason to believe he can't beat WWH.


Originally posted by King_Mungi
Well Satan gave him the boost in power so he could escape, and actually wants him to kill his 616 avatars *shrugs* I really really really hope the last Devil host shows uber skills as thus far, Lucifer doesn't seem that uber. I think there's 2 or 3 avatars left now or something? Could his magic work on Wendigo? *shrugs* Can't say it can or can't for certain.

*Shrugs* Not sure, he seemed to know his power wouldn't stop him. He might have did stuff off-panel and that's how he came to that conclusion or knew otherwise right off the bat. He can't, because he isn't a child of the Gods

Well he was kneeled over crying and that's when GR used his chains to bind DS and gave him the penance stare. There's two left... and GR seemingly just killed the second last one. Meh, Strange beat Lucifer in his realm I believe.
And how about magic physical attacks?

So... has he even iyo ever succumbed to cis?
Blarg.

I can't really see Strange get away even if he was ready... unless he teleported away, anyway.

****! My comp locked up again when I was typing my reply.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
You can't view Photobucket?
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/hp2.gif

Anyway... Huc pops out the knives, gets grabbed, and headbut KO's Warpath. He took out Warpath far easier than he took out Wolves miser.

OK. Doesn't change the fact that he was shown as far stronger than he usually is.

Doc was able to one shot Savage Hulk... if he had his hands, there's no reason to believe he can't beat WWH.

Of course he would take out Warpath easily, I was pointing out the knives rather then Warpath himself.

Majority of the times yeah I can view it, but now my comp is so f'ed up it keeps locking up. It's an old comp, and thankfully I'm getting a new one.

But his durability wasn't anything impressive, strength sure but durability? meh!

Sure, I was talking about Strange saying GR could potentially beat Hulk.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist

There's two left... and GR seemingly just killed the second last one. Meh, Strange beat Lucifer in his realm I believe.
And how about magic physical attacks?

So... has he even iyo ever succumbed to cis?
Blarg.

I can't really see Strange get away even if he was ready... unless he teleported away, anyway.

I thought this Lucifer was suppose to be now, and before it was merely Mephisto as "Lucifer"

Shockingly I can't really think of an instance, but you would think as he is usually always feral. I have most of Wendigo's apperances in the respect thread sans 2 I believe. He really doesn't fall under CIS.

Or freeze time, gone intangiable, teleported GR, etc. He had means.

GR lights him up like a dirty rug soaked in gasoline.

Originally posted by jinzin
GR lights him up like a dirty rug soaked in gasoline.

Depending on the host, Wendigo would get scared by the flames and run away.

It's a good thing GR doesn't have a nose, I bet Wendi's pretty rank.

Originally posted by jinzin
It's a good thing GR doesn't have a nose, I bet Wendi's pretty rank.

Burnt hair is an acquired taste I suppose

Originally posted by King_Mungi
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Originally posted by King_Mungi
Of course he would take out Warpath easily, I was pointing out the knives rather then Warpath himself.

Majority of the times yeah I can view it, but now my comp is so f'ed up it keeps locking up. It's an old comp, and thankfully I'm getting a new one.

But his durability wasn't anything impressive, strength sure but durability? meh!

Sure, I was talking about Strange saying GR could potentially beat Hulk. All the knives did was lock his muscles until he tried to free them... Wolve's claws was able to slice his fase, arms, etc. And dat waz teh after Warpath I believe (been a while since I read that).

OK.

Perhaps. He was still able to take shots that would/should have put down Savage.

OK.



Originally posted by King_Mungi
I thought this Lucifer was suppose to be now, and before it was merely Mephisto as "Lucifer"

Shockingly I can't really think of an instance, but you would think as he is usually always feral. I have most of Wendigo's apperances in the respect thread sans 2 I believe. He really doesn't fall under CIS.

Or freeze time, gone intangiable, teleported GR, etc. He had means. uhdunno.

Talking about Shaman.

He doesn't do that often... or IMO enough to even be brought into a forum battle... Plus, intangible? Are yous talking about Astral Form?

It wouldn't just be burnt though, it's like burnt AND soiled. Ewwww..

I wonder who ... hey wait I got an idea for a new thread!
(*runs off*)

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/thl_09d4a1ecc882bb4b0d9a06b82ed9571.gif

I kid you not it locked up twice trying to open that


Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist

All the knives did was lock his muscles until he tried to free them... Wolve's claws was able to slice his fase, arms, etc. And dat waz teh after Warpath I believe (been a while since I read that).

Perhaps. He was still able to take shots that would/should have put down Savage.



Yet, the claw attacks didn't even leave damage for long. Like Hulk's eye were pretty much fine right after he was done slashing him. Yeah that was it for Warpath

Like what? Sans the Sentry fight.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist

uhdunno.

Talking about Shaman.

He doesn't do that often... or IMO enough to even be brought into a forum battle... Plus, intangible? Are yous talking about Astral Form?

Oh..haha yeah he does.

Heh! Yet it still does get brought up quite abit. Naaa, he has gone intangiable without going astral form leaving his physical body open for attacks

Originally posted by jinzin
It wouldn't just be burnt though, it's like burnt AND soiled. Ewwww..

I wonder who ... hey wait I got an idea for a new thread!
(*runs off*)

Heh! and you actually made who smells the worse thread. Nice

hehehe yeah I don't remember ever having one of those.

Originally posted by jinzin
hehehe yeah I don't remember ever having one of those.

Like I said in the other thread, welcome back we missed you

Originally posted by King_Mungi
I kid you not it locked up twice trying to open that

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Quicksilver09-04.jpg



Originally posted by King_Mungi
Yet, the claw attacks didn't even leave damage for long. Like Hulk's eye were pretty much fine right after he was done slashing him. Yeah that was it for Warpath

Like what? Sans the Sentry fight.
As were his shoulders after Warpath...

If we were led to believe it was the real Bolt... Blackbolt, Strange's onslaught, probably Tony's new machine... something else... etc.


Originally posted by King_Mungi
Oh..haha yeah he does.

Heh! Yet it still does get brought up quite abit. Naaa, he has gone intangiable without going astral form leaving his physical body open for attacks Who? Strange? Off the top of my head, he's stopped time like maybe 5 times.
Or are you talking about Shaman suffering to cis?

If you woulds't be so kind... can you point me to this cheery event?

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Like I said in the other thread, welcome back we missed you

lol, thanks man, good to be home. thumbsup

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Quicksilver09-04.jpg

Is this a legit link to this thread, as I can't open it

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist

As were his shoulders after Warpath...

If we were led to believe it was the real Bolt... Blackbolt, Strange's onslaught, probably Tony's new machine... something else... etc.

Still seemed to bother him more then the claw marks..which is heh!

Well we really didn't see the whole fight, as one time he whispered at him and sent Hulk flying but then in Frontline it said it removed a peice of the moon the size of Rhode Island. Well Zom was only a fraction of his power, as later didn't Angel one hit KO Cho when he got possessed. Tony's machine was during Hulk's Worldbreaker mode

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist

Who? Strange? Off the top of my head, he's stopped time like maybe 5 times.
Or are you talking about Shaman suffering to cis?

If you woulds't be so kind... can you point me to this cheery event?

Shaman suffering from CIS, and talking about Dr.Strange stopping time as a means to avoid an attack.

It's in the Dr.Strange respect thread as he phazed through an energy attack from a demon.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Is this a legit link to this thread, as I can't open it
Oh you!
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/hp5-2.gif


Originally posted by King_Mungi
Still seemed to bother him more then the claw marks..which is heh!

Well we really didn't see the whole fight, as one time he whispered at him and sent Hulk flying but then in Frontline it said it removed a peice of the moon the size of Rhode Island. Well Zom was only a fraction of his power, as later didn't Angel one hit KO Cho when he got possessed. Tony's machine was during Hulk's Worldbreaker mode Not really... or at all...

Savage has shown he can't withstand a whisper.
Talking about getting punched through (The Strange fight).
Talking about the Ultimo Hulkbuster armor...



Originally posted by King_Mungi
Shaman suffering from CIS, and talking about Dr.Strange stopping time as a means to avoid an attack.

It's in the Dr.Strange respect thread as he phazed through an energy attack from a demon. So... Shaman has suffered from CIS before... intriguing. So, doesn't that say that his knowledge isn't absolute all the time, etc?

I already looked through there a couple days ago. I'm not going to make it a habit...

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist

Not really... or at all...

Savage has shown he can't withstand a whisper.
Talking about getting punched through (The Strange fight).
Talking about the Ultimo Hulkbuster armor...

It did though, as Hulk didn't even skip a beat from the claw marks, while the blades halted him for abit.

and other times he has taken worse , so meh!

And? Prof Hulk healed from near skeltal form from Vector and pretty much in seconds.

Meh! Hulkbuster armor wasn't that impressive.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist

So... Shaman has suffered from CIS before... intriguing. So, doesn't that say that his knowledge isn't absolute all the time, etc?

I already looked through there a couple days ago. I'm not going to make it a habit...

Doesn't happen often and nothing really of serious note, you would be hard pressed to find a serious case for CIS. He generally falls under PIS, then CIS

One more time won't hurt...I can't look for myself

Originally posted by King_Mungi
It did though, as Hulk didn't even skip a beat from the claw marks, while the blades halted him for abit.

and other times he has taken worse , so meh!

And? Prof Hulk healed from near skeltal form from Vector and pretty much in seconds.

Meh! Hulkbuster armor wasn't that impressive. The blades only halted his arm movement until he popped them out... he started to kick people as soon as it happened.
Wolverine's claws would have done the same thing, but he isn't going to keep his claws buried in Hulk.

Uh... huh...

But would he be able to heal from getting punched through? Hell, Hulk was still able to fight.
Plus, I can't see the blasts Prof Hulk took, take WWH to a skeletal state...

More powerful than any other armor from Tony (minus maybe Thorbuster)...


Originally posted by King_Mungi
Doesn't happen often and nothing really of serious note, you would be hard pressed to find a serious case for CIS. He generally falls under PIS, then CIS

One more time won't hurt...I can't look for myself So, is it possible that he didn't search through everything to put Wendigo down then?
And is it possible that the Gods of the Arctic don't know everything?


I hate that thread quite personally...

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
The blades only halted his arm movement until he popped them out... he started to kick people as soon as it happened.
Wolverine's claws would have done the same thing, but he isn't going to keep his claws buried in Hulk.

But would he be able to heal from getting punched through? Hell, Hulk was still able to fight.
Plus, I can't see the blasts Prof Hulk took, take WWH to a skeletal state...

More powerful than any other armor from Tony (minus maybe Thorbuster)...

Still halted him far longer then Wolverine's claws did.

Who Wendigo? Recently She Hulk caused a MASSIVE hole in Wendigo and removed his heart and he was down. But it was said his healing factor is above Hulk's so *shrugs*

Why? He was in worse shape then what Zom-Strange did compared to Prof Hulk, as even in a skeletal state he was still moving forward against Vector's force blasts and ended up still knocking him out.

It still wasn't that great, and still got beat pretty quickly

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
So, is it possible that he didn't search through everything to put Wendigo down then?
And is it possible that the Gods of the Arctic don't know everything?

Doubt it as later he really didn't go anything when Mauvais took over Wendigo so he tried to free the Gods of the Arctic as backup

There were said to be omnipotent, as they used to rule the Earth till the Beasts banished them to their new realm...*shrugs*

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Still halted him far longer then Wolverine's claws did.

Who Wendigo? Recently She Hulk caused a MASSIVE hole in Wendigo and removed his heart and he was down. But it was said his healing factor is above Hulk's so *shrugs*

Why? He was in worse shape then what Zom-Strange did compared to Prof Hulk, as even in a skeletal state he was still moving forward against Vector's force blasts and ended up still knocking him out.

It still wasn't that great, and still got beat pretty quickly Neither halted him... but Wolverine's claws actually damaged him...

Hulk.

Well, Strange was blasting holes through him... huge holes too.
Is Prof was lower in durability than WWH... then it should put him down. Plus, would that blast have even effected WWH?

Still more powerful than other versions.



Originally posted by King_Mungi
Doubt it as later he really didn't go anything when Mauvais took over Wendigo so he tried to free the Gods of the Arctic as backup

There were said to be omnipotent, as they used to rule the Earth till the Beasts banished them to their new realm...*shrugs* So he had to have searched through everything? I mean, he couldn't simply have BFR'ed him, or something?
Plus, wasn't Mauvis a sorcerer anyway?

Omnipotent beings lower than God aren't the greatest examples... Even Eternity isn't all knowing.

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Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Neither halted him... but Wolverine's claws actually damaged him...

Hulk.

Well, Strange was blasting holes through him... huge holes too.
Is Prof was lower in durability than WWH... then it should put him down. Plus, would that blast have even effected WWH?

Still more powerful than other versions.

Errr? the knives damaged him

I would say so as Savage Hulk as reverted matter transformation in the past

Meh! if you look at other healing factor feats from Savage their basically on par with that.

Don't see why not as Vector could repulse reality opening dimensions or some jazz like that

Bah! Were getting completly side-tracked now

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
So he had to have searched through everything? I mean, he couldn't simply have BFR'ed him, or something?
Plus, wasn't Mauvis a sorcerer anyway?

Omnipotent beings lower than God aren't the greatest examples... Even Eternity isn't all knowing.

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Wouldn't have to search through anything, he thinks and it appears in his hand via the void. He doesn't shift through items. He properly could BFR, but some Wendigo have the ability to transverse dimensions...that Wendigo appeared in a Blaze comic.

Yes, but even Mauvais Wendigo was struggling against a dying and weakened Wendigo. As Mauvais cut the connection from the Gods off, which nearly killed Snowbird too.

I know hence why I added "*Shrugs*"

Not really as were not even saying who wins, just commenting on some points

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Errr? the knives damaged him

I would say so as Savage Hulk as reverted matter transformation in the past

Meh! if you look at other healing factor feats from Savage their basically on par with that.

Don't see why not as Vector could repulse reality opening dimensions or some jazz like that

Bah! Were getting completly side-tracked now Not as much as Wolverine's claws.

I'm confused here...

He had trouble from an HV attack that didn't go all the way through... ermm

Well, if WWH is more durable than Prof, then it shouldn't be able to do that to WWH, or it should have destroyed Prof.

I think this had to do with affected WWH being something good from GR... or something...



Originally posted by King_Mungi
Wouldn't have to search through anything, he thinks and it appears in his hand via the void. He doesn't shift through items. He properly could BFR, but some Wendigo have the ability to transverse dimensions...that Wendigo appeared in a Blaze comic.

Yes, but even Mauvais Wendigo was struggling against a dying and weakened Wendigo. As Mauvais cut the connection from the Gods off, which nearly killed Snowbird too.

I know hence why I added "*Shrugs*"

Not really as were not even saying who wins, just commenting on some points I mean, he knew that everything he could have done, would have done nothing to Wends.

Well, if he could have BFR'ed... that's one more thing he could have done... ermm

So... is that a case of magic affecting it then?
Plus, that seems like another thing he could have done... but wouldn't.
Also, for Shaman not doing anything to Mauvis... it could have been because he could have defended against it, or some sorts.
Meh.

OK.

OK. So, can we have a last word game?

Naaaaa..you can have the last word there, kinda tired actually

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Naaaaa..you can have the last word there, kinda tired actually I win!

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I was going to stop after the next post anyway...

Damn it, I knew I should have kept going