Thanos,silver surfer, WWH,Dr strange vs JLA

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ultimatethor
Who wins

celestialdemon
Who makes up the roster on the JLA?

janus77
hmm, I dunno if there's any JLA I've seen that could even cope with just Thanos alone, nevermind Strange and Surfer.

Surfer would, naturally, takeout Flash and Superman quite quickly. WW would be occupied/beaten by Hulk, Strange would take care of MM and Thanos would sit back and ***** about the indignity of having to involve himself in such a trivial contest.

... then again, Batman could BatKick them all to the Source wall or something confused.

nvrbeenwthagirl
Originally posted by janus77
hmm, I dunno if there's any JLA I've seen that could even cope with just Thanos alone, nevermind Strange and Surfer.

Surfer would, naturally, takeout Flash and Superman quite quickly. WW would be occupied/beaten by Hulk, Strange would take care of MM and Thanos would sit back and ***** about the indignity of having to involve himself in such a trivial contest.

... then again, Batman could BatKick them all to the Source wall or something confused.

I just know you are not serious.
Dr. Fate and Zatanna would pwn Thanos.

Hal Jordan, Firestorm and John would take turns beating the snot out of Surfer.

Wonder WOman and Superman do a General eilingesque blitz on the hulk.

Dr. Strange is pwned by a speed blitzed from the flash.

Fight over.

starlock
there should be a list of JLA members

janus77
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I just know you are not serious.
Dr. Fate and Zatanna would pwn Thanos.

Hal Jordan, Firestorm and John would take turns beating the snot out of Surfer.

Wonder WOman and Superman do a General eilingesque blitz on the hulk.

Dr. Strange is pwned by a speed blitzed from the flash.

Fight over.
Hal and John would be beaten pdq by Surfer, on his way to slaughtering Flash.

or let's say Surfer changes every molecule of his body into Kryptonite, whilst twisting Flash's head off at 100x C... causing Superman to double-over in spasms. thus the 'fight' begins, Strange with barely a second gone utters a spell that banishes the JLA to ... Plymouth confused.

tbh I don't know, as I said in the initial reply, I don't know any JLA roster which could stand upto Thanos... the ones I know of, the usual suspects WW, Superman, GL, Flash, MM ... they're stomped pretty easy, the others... dunno.

nvrbeenwthagirl
Originally posted by janus77
Hal and John would be beaten pdq by Surfer, on his way to slaughtering Flash.

or let's say Surfer changes every molecule of his body into Kryptonite, whilst twisting Flash's head off at 100x C... causing Superman to double-over in spasms. thus the 'fight' begins, Strange with barely a second gone utters a spell that banishes the JLA to ... Plymouth confused.

tbh I don't know, as I said in the initial reply, I don't know any JLA roster which could stand upto Thanos... the ones I know of, the usual suspects WW, Superman, GL, Flash, MM ... they're stomped pretty easy, the others... dunno.

I just know you haven't been reading the JLA. the JLA has fought far more powerful beings than Thanos. Quantum Zealot Anyone? Hell, Thanos wouldn't be able to Beat Orion, Superman, and Captain marvel at the same time. And Since when do you think Surfer is going to be able to blitz th flash?

Bouboumaster
Thanos would maybe soloes by himself...

Thanos, classic Strange and Surfer alone are sufficiente.

Seriously, Strange against Fate, Surfer against Flash, Thanos hold is own alone.

spidey-dude
surfer and thanos solo

Symmetric Chaos
Originally posted by ultimatethor
Who wins

There are JLA teams that would have no chance and there are ones that would sweep the floor with them.

If you use the Big7 the JLA would probably win after a decent amount of time.

nvrbeenwthagirl
Originally posted by Bouboumaster
Thanos would maybe soloes by himself...

Thanos, classic Strange and Surfer alone are sufficiente.

Seriously, Strange against Fate, Surfer against Flash, Thanos hold is own alone.

Current JLA has TWO GL"S, the flash, Superman, Wonder Woman, vixen, Geo force, red tornado, black lightning, hawk woman, black canary, firestorm and batman on it. I'd say that was enough right there. Strange is blitzed before he can attack, Thor is turned into a livign statue and pummled, Hal, Firestorm, john, and wonder woman do a number on thanos with a magic lasso knot while the others keep thanos quite busy.

quanchi112
JLA gets crushed.

cmack
jla wins

nvrbeenwthagirl
Originally posted by quanchi112
JLA gets crushed.

LMAO that the best argument you can come up with. You do realize at one point in time there was a line up of the JLA that included nearly 30 members. What in the WORLD is Thanos going to do to Zatanna? Or Flash?

Gecko4lif
Flash could solo the field quite literally
Zatanna could 1 shot everybody her except strang
supes pwns both thanos and ss (his only danger is red sun radiation)
Hal could draw with ss
Ww could take out ss (thanos im not so sure about)
MM could solo the feild (iffy on strange)

Inhuman
Originally posted by Gecko4lif
Flash could solo the field quite literally
Zatanna could 1 shot everybody her except strang
supes pwns both thanos and ss (his only danger is red sun radiation)
Hal could draw with ss
Ww could take out ss (thanos im not so sure about)
MM could solo the feild (iffy on strange)

rolling on floor laughing

BlackJackStorm
WWH solos JLA.

nvrbeenwthagirl
Originally posted by Gecko4lif
Flash could solo the field quite literally
Zatanna could 1 shot everybody her except strang
supes pwns both thanos and ss (his only danger is red sun radiation)
Hal could draw with ss
Ww could take out ss (thanos im not so sure about)
MM could solo the feild (iffy on strange)
I was just about to report you for this post when I realized you were kidding. The JLA isn't that good individually.

BlackJackStorm
Originally posted by Gecko4lif
Flash could solo the field quite literally
Zatanna could 1 shot everybody her except strang
supes pwns both thanos and ss (his only danger is red sun radiation)
Hal could draw with ss
Ww could take out ss (thanos im not so sure about)
MM could solo the feild (iffy on strange)

Make me laugh again! please! laughing

Terryc250
Thanos and SS destroys the team themselves

nvrbeenwthagirl
Originally posted by Terryc250
Thanos and SS destroys the team themselves

You think? So SS can take Firestorm and Hal?

Thanos can take WW, Superman, Flash, John, ect?

do show us thanos taking such groups of beings.

quanchi112
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
LMAO that the best argument you can come up with. You do realize at one point in time there was a line up of the JLA that included nearly 30 members. What in the WORLD is Thanos going to do to Zatanna? Or Flash? Surfer takes the Flash while Strange beats Zatanna. WW Hulk and Thanos handle the rest until the Surfer and Strange come in.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Gecko4lif
Flash could solo the field quite literally
Zatanna could 1 shot everybody her except strang
supes pwns both thanos and ss (his only danger is red sun radiation)
Hal could draw with ss
Ww could take out ss (thanos im not so sure about)
MM could solo the feild (iffy on strange) laughing laughing

nvrbeenwthagirl
Originally posted by quanchi112
Surfer takes the Flash while Strange beats Zatanna. WW Hulk and Thanos handle the rest until the Surfer and Strange come in.

How do you think Surfer takes flash when he'll be busy fighting Hal and Firestorm? And how does strange beat zatanna when he's not exactly uber anymore and flash will be clocking him and crushing his hands before he gets a spell off? WW hulk and Thanos handle the rest? OMG. Vixen can simply drain Hulk of his gamma power and beat him with his own energy. And Sueprman, WW, john, and the rest of the JLA would be enough to pwn thanos.

quanchi112
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
How do you think Surfer takes flash when he'll be busy fighting Hal and Firestorm? And how does strange beat zatanna when he's not exactly uber anymore and flash will be clocking him and crushing his hands before he gets a spell off? WW hulk and Thanos handle the rest? OMG. Vixen can simply drain Hulk of his gamma power and beat him with his own energy. And Sueprman, WW, john, and the rest of the JLA would be enough to pwn thanos. Nah Surfer takes Flash out with one blast. Strange is still a force. Thanos woul dwhip the shit out of Superman first and look to crush who else stood in his path. No one on your team has the firepower to really put him down. Hell Odin couldnt do it and had quite a while to try.

Oh yeah Thanos has been upgraded since that fight.

nvrbeenwthagirl
Originally posted by quanchi112
Nah Surfer takes Flash out with one blast. Strange is still a force. Thanos woul dwhip the shit out of Superman first and look to crush who else stood in his path. No one on your team has the firepower to really put him down. Hell Odin couldnt do it and had quite a while to try.

Oh yeah Thanos has been upgraded since that fight.

Quan, your arugment sucks. It has no merit,and it's basically just saying this is what surfer will do and blah shitty blah. batkick to Thanos dome should put him down. Gamara made him bleed with a karate chop. his upgrade doesn't mean shit since he didn't do anything with it. Oh and Magic lasso tied around thanos takes him out of the fight before he blinks. And Surfer takes flash out with a blast how? he's actually hitting the flash? LMAO. he's getting past firestorm and Hal jordan why? Thanos is goign to crush superman becuz the rest of the league will just be standing there watching this. You are laughable. strange now has reflexes to stop flash from taking his hands? I tire of your crappy post. At least put up a real argument once in a while.

quanchi112
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Quan, your arugment sucks. It has no merit,and it's basically just saying this is what surfer will do and blah shitty blah. batkick to Thanos dome should put him down. Gamara made him bleed with a karate chop. his upgrade doesn't mean shit since he didn't do anything with it. Oh and Magic lasso tied around thanos takes him out of the fight before he blinks. And Surfer takes flash out with a blast how? he's actually hitting the flash? LMAO. he's getting past firestorm and Hal jordan why? Thanos is goign to crush superman becuz the rest of the league will just be standing there watching this. You are laughable. strange now has reflexes to stop flash from taking his hands? I tire of your crappy post. At least put up a real argument once in a while. Surfer can and would catch Flash and could oneshot the shit out of him. There goes the flash. Thanos wasnt serious at all with Gamora. smile

Firestorm is busy dealing with Thanos along with Hal Jordan.

nvrbeenwthagirl
Originally posted by quanchi112
Surfer can and would catch Flash and could oneshot the shit out of him. There goes the flash. Thanos wasnt serious at all with Gamora. smile

Firestorm is busy dealing with Thanos along with Hal Jordan.

surfer catches the flash how? why? he's shown that he has that type of combat speed and accuracy? Surfer's blast would get past John, Hal jordan, and firestorm? Hmm. LMAO. laughing laughing laughing

iceman24567
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
surfer catches the flash how? why? he's shown that he has that type of combat speed and accuracy? Surfer's blast would get past John, Hal jordan, and firestorm? Hmm. LMAO. laughing laughing laughing John+Hals ring shields>>>Surfers blast thats all im saying in this thread i think.

quanchi112
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
surfer catches the flash how? why? he's shown that he has that type of combat speed and accuracy? Surfer's blast would get past John, Hal jordan, and firestorm? Hmm. LMAO. laughing laughing laughing So your saying Surfer cant pursue and blast at the same time. laughing laughing laughing

nvrbeenwthagirl
Originally posted by quanchi112
So your saying Surfer cant pursue and blast at the same time. laughing laughing laughing

So while surfer is busy tying to catch and hit a guy who's got far better reflexes and battle speed than he does, he's going to let himself get absorbed into the firestorm matrix, or pummeled by two GL's? You gotta think this thru. Surfer is a flyer and he's not going to be focused on ground fight when he's got high level threats in the air.

Madvillain
Depends on the JLA roster, but Thanos and Dr. Strange is a lot of raw power.

fangirl101
dr. fate
orion
hal jordan
superman
zatanna
martian manhunter
flash
vixen

i think that would take care of those four. with time for afternoon tea.

ultimatethor
The JLA would have to be at their most powerful to evn come close to taking out this team

fangirl101
Originally posted by ultimatethor
The JLA would have to be at their most powerful to evn come close to taking out this team

um no.

Flash takes out wwh and dr. strange on his own before they blink.
martian manhunter and hal jordan and play ping pong with silver surfer. martian manhunter screws with his mind while jordan does a physical assault.

firestorm, superman, and wonder woman can easily tie thanos up in the lasso. once it's on him, he's out of the match. Hell Flash can take out hulk, dr. strange and tie thanos up with the lasso before any of the other team moves. surfer is the only one who has reaction speeds, too bad he'd be blitzed by superman, martian manhunter, wonder woman, etc. or zatanna is amped by speed force energy and she says one magic spell backwards before the other team thinks and the fight is over.

the jla doesn't have to be at thier most uber. they have flash and superman. and a one trick lasso to boot.

Nestical
before anyone gets their panties all bunched up,dude needs to list members of the jla.but in my humble opinion,team 1 goes hard on the jla.

quanchi112
JLA gets stomped. Seriously WW Hulk was a threat for marvel earth. Dr Strange is the sorcerer supreme capable of almost anything. While the Surfer takes out Superman. Thanos could take them on by himself.

fangirl101
Originally posted by quanchi112
JLA gets stomped. Seriously WW Hulk was a threat for marvel earth. Dr Strange is the sorcerer supreme capable of almost anything. While the Surfer takes out Superman. Thanos could take them on by himself.
and with no scenerio or battle story, we take you word for it based upon what exactly? that big thanos picture in your lil box?

Jugglenaut
Originally posted by fangirl101
um no.

Flash takes out wwh and dr. strange on his own before they blink.
martian manhunter and hal jordan and play ping pong with silver surfer. martian manhunter screws with his mind while jordan does a physical assault.

firestorm, superman, and wonder woman can easily tie thanos up in the lasso. once it's on him, he's out of the match. Hell Flash can take out hulk, dr. strange and tie thanos up with the lasso before any of the other team moves. surfer is the only one who has reaction speeds, too bad he'd be blitzed by superman, martian manhunter, wonder woman, etc. or zatanna is amped by speed force energy and she says one magic spell backwards before the other team thinks and the fight is over.

the jla doesn't have to be at thier most uber. they have flash and superman. and a one trick lasso to boot.
Flash barring PIS/CIS IS the most powerful member they have.

ultimatethor
Originally posted by fangirl101
um no.

Flash takes out wwh and dr. strange on his own before they blink.
martian manhunter and hal jordan and play ping pong with silver surfer. martian manhunter screws with his mind while jordan does a physical assault.

firestorm, superman, and wonder woman can easily tie thanos up in the lasso. once it's on him, he's out of the match. Hell Flash can take out hulk, dr. strange and tie thanos up with the lasso before any of the other team moves. surfer is the only one who has reaction speeds, too bad he'd be blitzed by superman, martian manhunter, wonder woman, etc. or zatanna is amped by speed force energy and she says one magic spell backwards before the other team thinks and the fight is over.

the jla doesn't have to be at thier most uber. they have flash and superman. and a one trick lasso to boot.
Some of the things you say are just unbeleivably and amazingly illogical.

The silver surfer and thanos alone would stand a good chance against a regualr JLA squad let alone with Doc strange. Superman can be taken out in the first second of the fight by either SS or Thanos via transmutation, or enrgy absorbtion. Silver surfer is more than strong enough to withstand any mental attack from MM( Moondragon with mind gem ring a bell?). Thanos can practically one shot wonderwoman and it would not take much to put down wonderwoman. Better yet surfer could easily encase her in an unbreakble ethel enrgy shell. Aside flash SS is by far the fastest in the field so he would have no problems taking out Superman and WW really quickly. Flash might be fast but he is not immune to a mind rape from thanos or Doc strange who by the way would be protected by SS in an enrgy bubble. With strange protected the JLA are dead. Thanos can take Hal jordan MM and Zatana at the same time while Doc strange and WWH take out firestorm.

The JLA have way too many weak links that can be taken out in the first second or two by either SS or Thanos while the Marvel team have only one person that can be taken outimmediately that is strange however surfer is fast enough to provide adequate protection for strange from a superblitz by the flash. Team way easy

Some of the things you say are just unbeleivably and amazingly illogical.

TricksterPriest
We demand a freaking roster. no expression

fangirl101
Originally posted by ultimatethor
Some of the things you say are just unbeleivably and amazingly illogical.

The silver surfer and thanos alone would stand a good chance against a regualr JLA squad let alone with Doc strange. Superman can be taken out in the first second of the fight by either SS or Thanos via transmutation, or enrgy absorbtion. Silver surfer is more than strong enough to withstand any mental attack from MM( Moondragon with mind gem ring a bell?). Thanos can practically one shot wonderwoman and it would not take much to put down wonderwoman. Better yet surfer could easily encase her in an unbreakble ethel enrgy shell. Aside flash SS is by far the fastest in the field so he would have no problems taking out Superman and WW really quickly. Flash might be fast but he is not immune to a mind rape from thanos or Doc strange who by the way would be protected by SS in an enrgy bubble. With strange protected the JLA are dead. Thanos can take Hal jordan MM and Zatana at the same time while Doc strange and WWH take out firestorm.

The JLA have way too many weak links that can be taken out in the first second or two by either SS or Thanos while the Marvel team have only one person that can be taken outimmediately that is strange however surfer is fast enough to provide adequate protection for strange from a superblitz by the flash. Team way easy

Some of the things you say are just unbeleivably and amazingly illogical.

some of things you say are not well thought out. thanos can one shot wonder woman? since when is he getting past her shield? superman taken out in the first second? hmm, by whom? silver surfer never operates that way in comics. dr. strange would be protected by an energy bubble? before flash dumbs silver surfer in the speed force with no return?

the entire jla can all be mind linked by martian manhunter, protected with gl shields, and amped with flash speed before the marvel team blinks thanks to flash's god like speed. it's far far beyond anything the surfer or anyone on the field has. as a matter of fact, surfer and dr. strange are taken out as thier kinetic energy is taken and they are left as statues. and you mentioned moondragon like she's got an impressive resume. get back to me when she has done something of note.

zatanna can block the magic of uber magical users. mxy or circe come to mind. so her blocking strange would be nothing but childs play.

i could come up with a thousand ways the jla beats these guys.

Nihilist
team 1

The Illuminati
Originally posted by quanchi112
JLA gets stomped. Seriously WW Hulk was a threat for marvel earth. Dr Strange is the sorcerer supreme capable of almost anything. While the Surfer takes out Superman. Thanos could take them on by himself.


yes

fangirl101
Originally posted by The Illuminati
yes
you actually agree with him? goshgeewilikers.
Dr. strange is Easily depowered by zatanna. the Hulk is turned into a living statue by flash, silver surfer is taken care of by firestorm, hal jordan, and jon stewart, and thanos has to deal with the likes of phantom stranger who is a past and i believe even present member of the jla as he never retired. or thanos would have to deal with mr. miracle, whom at his last living stage had the power of the ale. or thanos can deal with orion, superman, captain marvel, wonder woman, or heres one that I just know thanos would love, the jla has flash kill ressurection man a trillion times till he gets enough power to wipe team one on his own.

Lord Feron
Team 1 FTW and yes I can explain myself later if I see a credible way someone can devise a plan to win it for JLA.

"the entire jla can all be mind linked by martian manhunter, protected with gl shields, and amped with flash speed before the marvel team blinks thanks to flash's god like speed. it's far far beyond anything the surfer or anyone on the field has. as a matter of fact, surfer and dr. strange are taken out as thier kinetic energy is taken and they are left as statues."

Yeah that would be the day.. lol laughing

but i do believe if we are talking every member of the JLA THe ateam loses but after a great fight and leaving most JLA ppl dead. If its say the top 7. Team 1 wins.

fangirl101
Originally posted by Lord Feron
Team 1 FTW and yes I can explain myself later if I see a credible way someone can devise a plan to win it for JLA.

"the entire jla can all be mind linked by martian manhunter, protected with gl shields, and amped with flash speed before the marvel team blinks thanks to flash's god like speed. it's far far beyond anything the surfer or anyone on the field has. as a matter of fact, surfer and dr. strange are taken out as thier kinetic energy is taken and they are left as statues."

Yeah that would be the day.. lol laughing

but i do believe if we are talking every member of the JLA THe ateam loses but after a great fight and leaving most JLA ppl dead. If its say the top 7. Team 1 wins.

seven jler's held off a quantum. the entire team 1 doesn't compare. and you act as if what i said was out landish. i only took thinks that are already common practice in the jla and fused them into one strategy.

Lord Feron
Yeah true but like you said the fusing of the tactics could be used but not as you would say normal operation. I doubt that the 2 GL can protect all their friends from the powers of any single one on team one. Surfer Blast, Thanos power, WWH punch, w/e strange can do is powerful enough to threaten the intergrity of a personal forcefield much less the rign energy divided among multiple people.

Strage will not be harmed by anything flash does (maybe imp punch might shock strange) mainly due to auto sheilds. I hear auto sheild operates independently from Strange meaning that Strange doesn't even have to know whats is going on for his sheilds to come up and protect him. Oh yeah i guess flash can make the speed force but I don't think strange would have a problem getting himself or people out of that realm or w/e you want to call it.

By the way fangirl why do we seem to disagree on almost everything laughing Ahh well always a pleasure.

fangirl101
Originally posted by Lord Feron
Yeah true but like you said the fusing of the tactics could be used but not as you would say normal operation. I doubt that the 2 GL can protect all their friends from the powers of any single one on team one. Surfer Blast, Thanos power, WWH punch, w/e strange can do is powerful enough to threaten the intergrity of a personal forcefield much less the rign energy divided among multiple people.

Strage will not be harmed by anything flash does (maybe imp punch might shock strange) mainly due to auto sheilds. I hear auto sheild operates independently from Strange meaning that Strange doesn't even have to know whats is going on for his sheilds to come up and protect him. Oh yeah i guess flash can make the speed force but I don't think strange would have a problem getting himself or people out of that realm or w/e you want to call it.

By the way fangirl why do we seem to disagree on almost everything laughing Ahh well always a pleasure.

I don't know. but to be honest, wwh, and surfer are inconsequential in this fight. surfer can be taken out by a high end magic user or by two gl's or held off by firestorm until superman ko's him. if superman can make the infinity man rethink his position, i'm betting he can crack surfer's hid. at least knock him out. dr. strange and thanos are the threats. but dr. strange would have to battle martian manhunters tp, zatana's magic, and magicaly charged fist from captain marvel. just too many ways for the jla to win. thanos is dumped into the speed force like superboy prime was. fight over.

quanchi112
Originally posted by fangirl101
and with no scenerio or battle story, we take you word for it based upon what exactly? that big thanos picture in your lil box? WW Hulk has smashed teams on his own. Thanos slugs it out with Odin oneshots top tiers. You neednt ask about Doctor Strange as I am sure you are aware of some of the insane feats he has accomplished. The Surfer defeats Superman as he exposes his weakness.

quanchi112
Originally posted by fangirl101
I don't know. but to be honest, wwh, and surfer are inconsequential in this fight. surfer can be taken out by a high end magic user or by two gl's or held off by firestorm until superman ko's him. if superman can make the infinity man rethink his position, i'm betting he can crack surfer's hid. at least knock him out. dr. strange and thanos are the threats. but dr. strange would have to battle martian manhunters tp, zatana's magic, and magicaly charged fist from captain marvel. just too many ways for the jla to win. thanos is dumped into the speed force like superboy prime was. fight over. Supes was dealt with while doing no damage whatsoever. I m didnt want to hurt him so he easily took him out of the fight. Now someone like Gog made the Im back down and leave the battlefield. Thats impressive not what Superman did. wink

Thanos has forcefields that keep him safe from the Flashes.

fangirl101
Originally posted by quanchi112
WW Hulk has smashed teams on his own. Thanos slugs it out with Odin oneshots top tiers. You neednt ask about Doctor Strange as I am sure you are aware of some of the insane feats he has accomplished. The Surfer defeats Superman as he exposes his weakness.

dr. strange is depowerd by zatanna. wwh is turned into banner by wonder woman's lasso command. surfer is too busy fighting captain marvel who has no weakness, firestorm, and two green lanterns and martian manhunter. he dies. thanos is speed force dumped or hit by flash a million times with imps. or he's turned into a statue as his kinetic energy is drained. fight over. game.set.match. fangirl101 does it again.

Lord Feron
Originally posted by fangirl101
I don't know. but to be honest, wwh, and surfer are inconsequential in this fight. surfer can be taken out by a high end magic user or by two gl's or held off by firestorm until superman ko's him. if superman can make the infinity man rethink his position, i'm betting he can crack surfer's hid. at least knock him out. dr. strange and thanos are the threats. but dr. strange would have to battle martian manhunters tp, zatana's magic, and magicaly charged fist from captain marvel. just too many ways for the jla to win. thanos is dumped into the speed force like superboy prime was. fight over.

Can i use the cross over event between marvel and DC. When Jyle was taking on SS (think it was kyle) and Kyle is like We got to do this man and SS is like yeah i know but I don't want to. GL charges him. Next panel The GL defeated with SS seemingly suffering from no damage. Before i screw myself someone confirm that, i think that happened. Hal and John are going to have to much much much more powerful then Kyle and know they are better GL then them but enough to beat surfer I'm not sure. Firestorm is rookie compared to the matter/energy manipulation experience that SS has. SS can also use his speed to knock out firestormas soon as he tries anything.

quanchi112
Originally posted by fangirl101
dr. strange is depowerd by zatanna. wwh is turned into banner by wonder woman's lasso command. surfer is too busy fighting captain marvel who has no weakness, firestorm, and two green lanterns and martian manhunter. he dies. thanos is speed force dumped or hit by flash a million times with imps. or he's turned into a statue as his kinetic energy is drained. fight over. game.set.match. fangirl101 does it again. Strange wont be depowered easily by her. Nope. He trumps her with feats as well. The rest is how you played this out in your mind which I dont even have to respond to.

Lord Feron
Originally posted by fangirl101
dr. strange is depowerd by zatanna. wwh is turned into banner by wonder woman's lasso command. surfer is too busy fighting captain marvel who has no weakness, firestorm, and two green lanterns and martian manhunter. he dies. thanos is speed force dumped or hit by flash a million times with imps. or he's turned into a statue as his kinetic energy is drained. fight over. game.set.match. fangirl101 does it again.

calm yourself for your victory chants are unwarranted lol sorry i wanted to say that.

In my opinion Strange and far and above the magic users of the JLA. Maybe greater then all of them combined.

ITs gonna take some time for Hulk to turn to banner he has to relax its not a command. If hulk gets pissed enough about the lasso the mantal properties of the lasso will have a hard to commanding him to do anything. Then again maybe not im not sure but either way it will take time to do w/e you think WW is gonna do to hulk and teammates wont stand by and let WW do her thing anyway.

fangirl101
Originally posted by Lord Feron
calm yourself for your victory chants are unwarranted lol sorry i wanted to say that.

In my opinion Strange and far and above the magic users of the JLA. Maybe greater then all of them combined.

ITs gonna take some time for Hulk to turn to banner he has to relax its not a command. If hulk gets pissed enough about the lasso the mantal properties of the lasso will have a hard to commanding him to do anything. Then again maybe not im not sure but either way it will take time to do w/e you think WW is gonna do to hulk and teammates wont stand by and let WW do her thing anyway.

wonder woman is fast enough on her own to lasso the hulk. once lassoed, can be commanded to simply not move for eternity. zatanna's spells can sap any magic user of thier will or ability to cast spells. it's worked on circe and mr. myxplyx. as for your other comment, surfer can't beat hal and jon and firestorm. firestorm alone would test surfer's power. firestorm is the better matter manipulator in my opinion. oh and despero was once on the jla as well when he was lron. he could take out wwh, surfer and strange with one psy blast. too many ways for the jla to win.

Bouboumaster
Massive stomps of Team 1, thanks to the Mad Titan.

fangirl101
Originally posted by Bouboumaster
Massive stomps of Team 1, thanks to the Mad Titan.

lolz. l-ron, triumph, the phantomstranger, dr. fate, all say other wise.

Bouboumaster
Originally posted by fangirl101
lolz. l-ron, triumph, the phantomstranger, dr. fate, all say other wise.

Who are the line up of the JLA? Because Thanos roller steam nealy anyone of the big 7.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Bouboumaster
Massive stomps of Team 1, thanks to the Mad Titan. Agreed.

fangirl101
Originally posted by quanchi112
Agreed.

Dr. Fate, Phantom Stranger, L-Ron, monarch( who isthe current version of captain atom) don't agree.

Marvelknight
Doctor Strange or Silver Surfer would prove to be a big problem for Superman. One has vast magical powers and the other can drain him of all his solar energy. Thanos would take out WW, AM, and MM. WWH is just back up. And Batman isn't really a factor here and SS is also faster than The Flash. Team wins 8/10

Lord Feron
Originally posted by fangirl101
wonder woman is fast enough on her own to lasso the hulk. once lassoed, can be commanded to simply not move for eternity. zatanna's spells can sap any magic user of thier will or ability to cast spells. it's worked on circe and mr. myxplyx. as for your other comment, surfer can't beat hal and jon and firestorm. firestorm alone would test surfer's power. firestorm is the better matter manipulator in my opinion. oh and despero was once on the jla as well when he was lron. he could take out wwh, surfer and strange with one psy blast. too many ways for the jla to win.

WW if she does lasso hulk needs to hold on to the lasso and start commanding w/e and LIke i said teammates won't stand idly by and allow 1 of their teammates be taken out. Does WW have to hold on to the lasso in order to command the person tangled up in it? I think so but im not sure. Anyway someone takes it off gives the weapon to hulk and everyone is choked out with hulk and the lasso. lol

Strange >>>> than Zatanna imo but i guess we differ on that so blahhh. Anyone want to back me up on this ?

Honestly with the power set SS it should be within his power to absord OA's battery meaning that he should suck up all the juice in the rings making them powerless.

SS has more experience and mastery of energy/matter manip but i guess we also disagree on this? anyone else agree or can someone open my eyes?

TricksterPriest
ROSTER, DAMN IT! ROSTER!!! durhulk

TrollDog
Whos Huc?

xJLxKing
Lol the entire JLA vs 4 guys? 1 of them is WWH who alone can be taken by WonderWomen, or Superman.

tkitna
Without knowing the JLA roster, this thread is pointless!

If its based on the big 7, team 1 rapes them.

Mindset
Originally posted by fangirl101
Dr. Fate, Phantom Stranger, L-Ron, monarch( who isthe current version of captain atom) don't agree.
Dr. Fate was JSA last time I checked.

And Monarch is not part of the JLA no expression

Darth Creasy
Is this Classic Strange? Please say yes...

fangirl101
Originally posted by Mindset Dr. Fate was JSA last time I checked.And Monarch is not part of the JLA no expression
I'm sorry, the jla gave out membership cards to the entire world. everyone is a resevist in the jla if they got super powers.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Mindset
Dr. Fate was JSA last time I checked.

And Monarch is not part of the JLA no expression laughing out loud

Who thought Monarch was a member of the jla. laughing out loud

Dark-Jaxx
Okay, one thing I have to say, is that Silver Surfer cannot react near as fast as Flash.

TrollDog
Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
Okay, one thing I have to say, is that Silver Surfer cannot react near as fast as Flash. Oh really?

fangirl101
Originally posted by TrollDog Oh really? yes really.

Mindset
Originally posted by fangirl101
I'm sorry, the jla gave out membership cards to the entire world. everyone is a resevist in the jla if they got super powers.

Dr. Fate was JLA at a time, but he is JSA now.

Monarch is not part of JLA, saying he is is beyond stupid.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Mindset
Dr. Fate was JLA at a time, but he is JSA now.

Monarch is not part of JLA, saying he is is beyond stupid. Agreed.

Darth Creasy
If this is Classic Strange, he and The Mad Titan do it w/o the others. If not it could go either way.

SS and Thanos react quick enuff to protect WWH and Strange from Speedblitz. Assuming we're talking the Big 7, WWH and Thanos can one-shot 3 of the group, leaving it 4 on 4. Marvel team wins.

Mr. Slippyfist
Wouldn't it be current JLA?

I love DC
Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Wouldn't it be current JLA? I believe so

fangirl101
current jla

firestorm
2 green lanterns
flash
superman
black lighting
vixen
superman
green arrow
batman
hawkwoman
wonder woman
black canary
that is still quite a formitable team.

the humans are pretty much dust. dr. strange is taken out by flash. wwh is bitched by superman and wonder woman

silver surfer is done in by 2 gl's working in unison

thanos is taken care of by flash, firestorm, vixen( who will steal half of his power and make it her own)

Bouboumaster
Originally posted by fangirl101
current jla

firestorm
2 green lanterns
flash
superman
black lighting
vixen
superman
green arrow
batman
hawkwoman
wonder woman
black canary
that is still quite a formitable team.

the humans are pretty much dust. dr. strange is taken out by flash. wwh is bitched by superman and wonder woman

silver surfer is done in by 2 gl's working in unison

thanos is taken care of by flash, firestorm, vixen( who will steal half of his power and make it her own)

Or... Strange kill Sups and Flash, via auto-shield and magic.
Thanos roller steam the GLs. He kill Surfer with some punches, let alone energy blast at full power in their faces.
Hulk procede to destroy Wonder Woman and the humans
Surfer tango and kill Firestorm
The rest are canon fodder.

Or... Thanos protect his team in his shield, while he put them in the same force cube he put Thor with WM/PG. The only three who MIGHT be able to get out are Firestorm, and MAYBE the GLs. Big Deal: Thanos soloes.

Thanos is skyfather lvl, nobody can dance with him in this line-up.
Together, they have a chance, but Thanos is with three heraldlvler, with two of them in the higher ladder of the food chain (Strange/Surfer) Sups have to many weaknesses. Flash is fast, but Thanos and Strange have defenses against him. Surfer can maybe outrace him.
Firestorm is great, but Surfer is a formidable matter manipulator, of the higest order.
GLs are herald lvler, Thanos eats them for breakfest.
Hulk can brawl with everyone. The only one who have enough power to put him down is the man of steel. But he would be killed in second by Surfer or Strange, because of his weaknesses.

They would be hurt, in final, but they walk on JLA 10/10.

quanchi112
Originally posted by fangirl101
current jla

firestorm
2 green lanterns
flash
superman
black lighting
vixen
superman
green arrow
batman
hawkwoman
wonder woman
black canary
that is still quite a formitable team.

the humans are pretty much dust. dr. strange is taken out by flash. wwh is bitched by superman and wonder woman

silver surfer is done in by 2 gl's working in unison

thanos is taken care of by flash, firestorm, vixen( who will steal half of his power and make it her own) Surfer takes out Superman. WW Hulk dismantles WW, Thanos crushes the gls. Strange takes out the Flash. The rest are fodder. The JLA would panic when their bread and butter Supes went down.

Lord Feron
Originally posted by quanchi112
Surfer takes out Superman. WW Hulk dismantles WW, Thanos crushes the gls. Strange takes out the Flash. The rest are fodder. The JLA would panic when their bread and butter Supes went down.


lol oh not the bread and butter! laughing Team ftw!

quanchi112
Originally posted by Lord Feron
lol oh not the bread and butter! laughing Team ftw! wink

llagrok
Flash solos.

fangirl101
Originally posted by Bouboumaster
Or... Strange kill Sups and Flash, via auto-shield and magic.
Thanos roller steam the GLs. He kill Surfer with some punches, let alone energy blast at full power in their faces.
Hulk procede to destroy Wonder Woman and the humans
Surfer tango and kill Firestorm
The rest are canon fodder.

Or... Thanos protect his team in his shield, while he put them in the same force cube he put Thor with WM/PG. The only three who MIGHT be able to get out are Firestorm, and MAYBE the GLs. Big Deal: Thanos soloes.

Thanos is skyfather lvl, nobody can dance with him in this line-up.
Together, they have a chance, but Thanos is with three heraldlvler, with two of them in the higher ladder of the food chain (Strange/Surfer) Sups have to many weaknesses. Flash is fast, but Thanos and Strange have defenses against him. Surfer can maybe outrace him.
Firestorm is great, but Surfer is a formidable matter manipulator, of the higest order.
GLs are herald lvler, Thanos eats them for breakfest.
Hulk can brawl with everyone. The only one who have enough power to put him down is the man of steel. But he would be killed in second by Surfer or Strange, because of his weaknesses.

They would be hurt, in final, but they walk on JLA 10/10.
this entire summation is not good at all. thanos protects his team with a shield? no one on the team can react to the flash. none of them. thanos is a skyfather lvler and that means what? both wonder woman and superman have fought skyfather lvl beings on thier own. besides vixen can tap thanos power and cut it in half. surfer isn't beating two gls. and the hulk can be taken out by firestorm, who can simply drain him of his gamma energy, or wrap him in an atomic containment field.

janus77
Surfer transmutes Flash into a bronze hippo, Strange falls on his arse from laughter, Thanos tires of the "conflict" and wipes out the JLA.

llagrok
Not only did you ridicule yourself, you just proved that you know nothing about the characters.

quanchi112
Originally posted by janus77
Surfer transmutes Flash into a bronze hippo, Strange falls on his arse from laughter, Thanos tires of the "conflict" and wipes out the JLA. laughing out loud

janus77
Originally posted by llagrok
Not only did you ridicule yourself, you just proved that you know nothing about the characters.
what? Strange would proper belly laugh at that, I'm sure... I can just picture him tripping over his cape and landing flat on his bum.
confused

anyway, don't be ridiculous!

oh, wait... you're 'grok and it's your raison d'etre no expression.

Bouboumaster

janus77
what, that phrase?
it's practically a part of the English language now...
like Sophie Marceau, Emmanuelle Seigner, croissants and baguettes... oh and Monica Bellucci (well, she's Italian really, I guess).

Tenebrous
^ and Eva Green

Lord Feron
add threesome in french to the english language to. can't remember the spelling mangetua? oh horrible spelling.

janus77

Bouboumaster
French is a beautiful language. But you can't use it everywhere messed

ultimatethor
Shit i forgot im the one that made this thread, anyway i only intended for it to be the big 7 of the jla but evn if you add others team one probably wins. Thanos can destroy the gls, Surfer can take down flash and supes, WWH handles WW and strange pawns MM and batman. To make it more fun im sure strange surfer or thanos could find a way to make the hulk go worldbreaker and really cause some dmage

Aztec123
It all comes down to the Justice league roster.

Current has:

Superman
Wonder Woman
Hal Jordan
John Stewart
Firestorm
Flash
Vixen
Red Tornado
Hawkgirl
Black Lighting
Batman

CPT Space Bomb
If this is the standard JLA roster, Then the Marvel guys DESTROY THEM.
Heck, Dr Strange could beat the team by himself by summoning the avatar of Eternity. Though, current Strange has been depowered for some reason.

fangirl101
Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
If this is the standard JLA roster, Then the Marvel guys DESTROY THEM.
Heck, Dr Strange could beat the team by himself by summoning the avatar of Eternity. Though, current Strange has been depowered for some reason. dr, strange would be decapitated before he blinks.

carver9
Originally posted by fangirl101
dr, strange would be decapitated before he blinks.

Wrong, auto shields.

fangirl101
Originally posted by carver9
Wrong, auto shields.

who is as fast as the flash that has ran into those "auto" shields?

CPT Space Bomb
Originally posted by fangirl101
dr, strange would be decapitated before he blinks. That's why it's never happened to him yet. Strange has fought beings far more powerful than anyone on the JLA roster.

carver9
Originally posted by fangirl101
who is as fast as the flash that has ran into those "auto" shields?

Does that mean that his shields still wont protect him because someone as fast as the flash hasnt ran into it. Show me proof that his shield wont protect him from flash. Magic override everything and I think that strange magical shield would prevail over anything that flash can throw at him.

carver9
Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
That's why it's never happened to him yet. Strange has fought beings far more powerful than anyone on the JLA roster.

Happy Dance

good post

ultimatethor
Originally posted by fangirl101
dr, strange would be decapitated before he blinks.

Classic stranges auto shields were always on. As long as he was out of sanctum they were on. Hence the reason he was able to take blasts that downed surfer and survive without using any full shield

fangirl101
Originally posted by carver9
Does that mean that his shields still wont protect him because someone as fast as the flash hasnt ran into it. Show me proof that his shield wont protect him from flash. Magic override everything and I think that strange magical shield would prevail over anything that flash can throw at him.
a million of those imps before he can blink have me thinking other wise.

CPT Space Bomb
Originally posted by fangirl101
a million of those imps before he can blink have me thinking other wise. laughing laughing laughing laughing
Name ONE time where Flash has performed a million imps on one person! Also, an Imp wouldn't do anything to Strange's shields, he's survived far worse.

fangirl101
Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
laughing laughing laughing laughing
Name ONE time where Flash has performed a million imps on one person! Also, an Imp wouldn't do anything to Strange's shields, he's survived far worse.
becuz you said so?

CPT Space Bomb
Originally posted by fangirl101
becuz you said so? What? No, because I asked for an instance where Flash has even remotely done what you've suggested. Strange has taken on The In-Betweener and won, and Galactus as well. He's blown up a planet, and heck, he's stopped time. What do you think would happen if Strange stopped time on Flash.... Anyway, Strange >>>> Flash any day of the week and twice on Sundays. Did I mention he can levitate and stay out of flash's range?

Erik-Lensherr
He stated that he could hit Zum, a White Martian (who were compared to Superman in that arc), a thousand times before he could blink.



Both his fight with In-Betweener aswell as Galactus had special circumstances. The stopping time and blowing up the planet point is moot since Flash isn't going to stand there and let him do that, aswell as levitation.

Not to mention that this is current Dr Strange, and not the classic one.

llagrok
Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
What? No, because I asked for an instance where Flash has even remotely done what you've suggested. Strange has taken on The In-Betweener and won, and Galactus as well. He's blown up a planet, and heck, he's stopped time. What do you think would happen if Strange stopped time on Flash.... Anyway, Strange >>>> Flash any day of the week and twice on Sundays. Did I mention he can levitate and stay out of flash's range?

He didn't beat the In-betweener in a fair fight, nor did he beat Galactus.

Beating Galactus and messing with time is something both Thor and Surfer has done. They're not taking Wally though.

CPT Space Bomb
Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
He stated that he could hit Zum, a White Martian (who were compared to Superman in that arc), a thousand times before he could blink. Ah, so we're taking statements over actual feats now, eh? Ok, as long as I get to do it too.



What special circumstancesFlash won't have a choice. He's not going to be able to do squat to Srange off the bat as Strange always has his shields up. Flash has no choice to watch Strange blow up the planet. By Wally.

That's why I said if it was classic then it would be way too one sided.

CPT Space Bomb
Originally posted by llagrok
He didn't beat the In-betweener in a fair fight, nor did he beat Galactus.Again, how so?


Um, yes, yes they are. ESPECIALLY Current Thor. He would own flash so bad it wouldn't be funny. How is Flash going to beat them? Answer, he's not. And by your logic, Flash > Galactus laughing laughing

Lord Feron
Yep flash aint doing jack to Strange. Better chance against WWH IMO.

llagrok
Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
Again, how so?


Um, yes, yes they are. ESPECIALLY Current Thor. He would own flash so bad it wouldn't be funny. How is Flash going to beat them? Answer, he's not. And by your logic, Flash > Galactus laughing laughing

Nope.

He can physically hurt the Surfer, Thor, Thanos, Hulk and Strange.

He can NOT punch Galactus' lights out.

CPT Space Bomb
Flash can't physically hurt Thanos, and that's about all he'd do to Thor or Surfer. Then after he hits them once they fly and start annihilating him. You do know the kinds of powers Thor has right? It's kinda sad to see Thor on your signature when you obviously don't know too much about him. sad Thor has taken brutal beatings From Mangog and Came back and used Anti-force blast on him to ko him. Mangog >>> Strength than anything Flash can pull off.

llagrok
Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
Flash can't physically hurt Thanos, and that's about all he'd do to Thor or Surfer. Then after he hits them once they fly and start annihilating him. You do know the kinds of powers Thor has right? It's kinda sad to see Thor on your signature when you obviously don't know too much about him. sad Thor has taken brutal beatings From Mangog and Came back and used Anti-force blast on him to ko him. Mangog >>> Strength than anything Flash can pull off.

How are they going to fly? He can launch off a shitload of punches in a second. I've read Thor v2, so don't bother trying to tell me about Thor's fight with Mangog.

One thing Thor has yet to do, is knock out a character comparable to Zum with a single punch.

He can't physically hurt Thanos? lmao.

CPT Space Bomb
Originally posted by llagrok
How are they going to fly?Because he can't ko them in time for them to not fly. Surfer can take much more than an Imp by the way, and is faster than flash anyway. Unless they all happen to be IMPS, that's not going to cut it. Um, why? Mangog is stronger than Wally and he beat Thor to a pulp, yet THor still won. Getting antsy because I'm arguing against the mighty Flash?

You mean Zoom?

Laugh all you want, I was laughing the moment I saw you post that Wally can beat anyone under Skyfather level. And no, he can't hurt Thanos. Thanos has better durability feats against physical combat than Darkseid.

llagrok
Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
Because he can't ko them in time for them to not fly. Surfer can take much more than an Imp by the way, and is faster than flash anyway. Unless they all happen to be IMPS, that's not going to cut it. Um, why? Mangog is stronger than Wally and he beat Thor to a pulp, yet THor still won. Getting antsy because I'm arguing against the mighty Flash?

You mean Zoom?

Laugh all you want, I was laughing the moment I saw you post that Wally can beat anyone under Skyfather level. And no, he can't hurt Thanos. Thanos has better durability feats against physical combat than Darkseid.

Thanos has been physically hurt by Thor....

I never stated that Flash could beat anyone under Skyfather level either, that's is YOU trying to put words in my mouth and your assumption.

Got any proof that Surfer can take a single Imp? let alone several, or do you have any proof that he's faster?

Hitman911
Sufer is Faster then the Flash.......seriously.

CPT Space Bomb
Originally posted by llagrok
Thanos has been physically hurt by Thor....Thor is stronger (FAR) than Flash. Darkseid's been destroyed by Superman.
No, you're right, only Marvel characters that are under skyfather level (you said he can beat Thor, Surfer, Strange and Hulk...who in Marvel do you think can win)Not really, that's me using fill in the blank logic based on you assuming Flash can even beat Thanos.

Not that it would matter if I did, but Surfer has taken powerful beatings from Hulk and still come off it, at one time Hulk said he hit him with his best Shot and Surfer said he didn't even feel it. Of course, I forgot how hated Hulk is here so that is a bad example. Can Flash run so fast he goes back in time? Can he tranverse the universe in seconds? Surfer can.

CPT Space Bomb
Originally posted by Hitman911
Sufer is Faster then the Flash.......seriously. Nuh-awh, Flash id teh uberest of teh uber. His isso fast he canst fly like Superman nto the sun. laughing out loud

Erik-Lensherr
In short, you have absolutley nothing to counter this so you go the 'Meh, I won't accept it".

Cool.

If you'd know anything about Wally, you'd know it's not just a statement.

But the funny thing is, you don't even know much about the character you're debating for ..


... since you don't even have a clue about the fights he's been into and you brought up, and most likely heard it on the forum.

And juding from your debating skills you've displayed up until now ..

llagrok
Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
Thor is stronger (FAR) than Flash. Darkseid's been destroyed by Superman.

He's far, far stronger than the Flash. But Flash can simulate striking power far greater than Thor can. Do you really think that brute strength makes a difference when Wally can go several times faster than light, easily?

Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
No, you're right, only Marvel characters that are under skyfather level (you said he can beat Thor, Surfer, Strange and Hulk...who in Marvel do you think can win)Not really, that's me using fill in the blank logic based on you assuming Flash can even beat Thanos..

Thanos has been physically hit and put to the ground by Thor, and if I'm no mistaken even the Thing was able to physically affect him the first time Thanos was beaten. Flash stated that he could fire off MANY IMPs when fighting Zum, but figured that only ONE would suffice, which it did. One IMP is sufficient to knock out a character who's durability is on par with Superman. But you don't thin that he could kill Strange, who seems to have human durability now, or Huc/Surfer/Thor? Really now...

Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
Not that it would matter if I did, but Surfer has taken powerful beatings from Hulk and still come off it, at one time Hulk said he hit him with his best Shot and Surfer said he didn't even feel it. Of course, I forgot how hated Hulk is here so that is a bad example. Can Flash run so fast he goes back in time? Can he tranverse the universe in seconds? Surfer can.

Sure, Flash even outraced death.

CPT Space Bomb
Originally posted by llagrok
He's far, far stronger than the Flash. But Flash can simulate striking power far greater than Thor can. Do you really think that brute strength makes a difference when Wally can go several times faster than light, easily?Thor has flown 3x the speed of light. And I know about flashes speedforce powers (as stupid as they are). Yet, brute strength isn't nearly all Thor has. You should know this based off your signature. I'm not going to name all of his powers, but what's to stop Thor from absorbing Flash's energy with Mjolnir? Or whats to stop him from creating an invincible shield around himself or bfr flash via teleportation, or drain his life out of him? There are tons of things Thor can do to beat flash.


Thor with the power gem. And by the way, Thor with the power gem is >> Superman level strength. physically effect? No, not really. And pre-powerup Thanos isn't relevant anyway, especially if you're using current Strange.Stating doesn't equal, you've used that on people as well. I was arguing for Classic Strange, who no, the imp wouldn't effect. However, I might give you the imp on current strange as he's been amazingly nerfed in power. The imp might have worked on savage hulk, but not World War Hulk (i.e. the same Hulk that bypassed Cyttorak's enchantment on Juggernaut and lived through Blackbolt's "scream". Against Current THOR?! No freaking way. Classic Thor may or may not be able to take an Imp, I'd say he could. Again, he's taken worse beatings and came through. Surfer I have no doubt he could take it, as he lived through the Crunch. That durability alone (in where 2 Galactus level beings died and he lived) easily puts him out of Flash's league.



Sure, Flash even outraced death.

CPT Space Bomb
Originally posted by llagrok
He's far, far stronger than the Flash. But Flash can simulate striking power far greater than Thor can. Do you really think that brute strength makes a difference when Wally can go several times faster than light, easily?Thor has flown 3x the speed of light. And I know about flashes speedforce powers (as stupid as they are). Yet, brute strength isn't nearly all Thor has. You should know this based off your signature. I'm not going to name all of his powers, but what's to stop Thor from absorbing Flash's energy with Mjolnir? Or whats to stop him from creating an invincible shield around himself or bfr flash via teleportation, or drain his life out of him? There are tons of things Thor can do to beat flash.


Thor with the power gem. And by the way, Thor with the power gem is >> Superman level strength. physically effect? No, not really. And pre-powerup Thanos isn't relevant anyway, especially if you're using current Strange.Stating doesn't equal, you've used that on people as well. I was arguing for Classic Strange, who no, the imp wouldn't effect. However, I might give you the imp on current strange as he's been amazingly nerfed in power. The imp might have worked on savage hulk, but not World War Hulk (i.e. the same Hulk that bypassed Cyttorak's enchantment on Juggernaut and lived through Blackbolt's "scream". Against Current THOR?! No freaking way. Classic Thor may or may not be able to take an Imp, I'd say he could. Again, he's taken worse beatings and came through. Surfer I have no doubt he could take it, as he lived through the Crunch. That durability alone (in where 2 Galactus level beings died and he lived) easily puts him out of Flash's league.


He hasn't accomplished actual measurable speed feats such as the one I listed then. Surfer is faster. When you bend reality with your speed and travel back in time, you are faster.

quanchi112
Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
Thor has flown 3x the speed of light. And I know about flashes speedforce powers (as stupid as they are). Yet, brute strength isn't nearly all Thor has. You should know this based off your signature. I'm not going to name all of his powers, but what's to stop Thor from absorbing Flash's energy with Mjolnir? Or whats to stop him from creating an invincible shield around himself or bfr flash via teleportation, or drain his life out of him? There are tons of things Thor can do to beat flash.


Thor with the power gem. And by the way, Thor with the power gem is >> Superman level strength. physically effect? No, not really. And pre-powerup Thanos isn't relevant anyway, especially if you're using current Strange.Stating doesn't equal, you've used that on people as well. I was arguing for Classic Strange, who no, the imp wouldn't effect. However, I might give you the imp on current strange as he's been amazingly nerfed in power. The imp might have worked on savage hulk, but not World War Hulk (i.e. the same Hulk that bypassed Cyttorak's enchantment on Juggernaut and lived through Blackbolt's "scream". Against Current THOR?! No freaking way. Classic Thor may or may not be able to take an Imp, I'd say he could. Again, he's taken worse beatings and came through. Surfer I have no doubt he could take it, as he lived through the Crunch. That durability alone (in where 2 Galactus level beings died and he lived) easily puts him out of Flash's league.


He hasn't accomplished actual measurable speed feats such as the one I listed then. Surfer is faster. When you bend reality with your speed and travel back in time, you are faster. Wow. You tend to know a whole lot about Thor and thats one of his favorite characters. Nice job. Well supported and you showed a Thor fan not to underestimate him and be blinded by the Flash who is nowhere near as powerful as people make him out to be on here.

CPT Space Bomb
Originally posted by quanchi112
Wow. You tend to know a whole lot about Thor and thats one of his favorite characters. Nice job. Well supported and you showed a Thor fan not to underestimate him and be blinded by the Flash who is nowhere near as powerful as people make him out to be on here. Thanks. I know alot more about Thor than that. I have tons of Thor comics. Flash in my opinion, shouldn't be able to beat guys On Superman level. But hey, I never would have imagined how popular Flash is here. roll eyes (sarcastic)

quanchi112
Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
Thanks. I know alot more about Thor than that. I have tons of Thor comics. Flash in my opinion, shouldn't be able to beat guys On Superman level. But hey, I never would have imagined how popular Flash is here. roll eyes (sarcastic) Yes. You said you were from cbr right?

In your opinion who wins out of a classic Thor vs a regular Superman thread.

CPT Space Bomb
Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes. You said you were from cbr right?

In your opinion who wins out of a classic Thor vs a regular Superman thread. Depends on how the fight goes down. Thor has all the tools to win, but then again so does Superman.

If Superman uses his speed effectively, he should win. However, If Thor even uses a minuscule amount of his magical powers (something he didn't do in JLA Avengers) then he'll win. If it's a straight physical brawl like JLA/Avengers Supes wins because he's slightly stronger and more durable.

Lord Feron
Yeah Flash Since the begining has become a god. Was always a fan of flash but eh i don't like what writers has turned him into. Yes flash love is very apparent in KMC but hey i like flash to just not fanatical about him.

quanchi112
Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
Depends on how the fight goes down. Thor has all the tools to win, but then again so does Superman.

If Superman uses his speed effectively, he should win. However, If Thor even uses a minuscule amount of his magical powers (something he didn't do in JLA Avengers) then he'll win. If it's a straight physical brawl like JLA/Avengers Supes wins because he's slightly stronger and more durable. Yes I think it would end up being a brawl with supes barely taking it. I think this fight would and should be epic if done correctly. But then again its all up to the writers and the boys at dcu would never let him lose to a marvel hero.

llagrok
Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
Thor has flown 3x the speed of light. And I know about flashes speedforce powers (as stupid as they are). Yet, brute strength isn't nearly all Thor has. You should know this based off your signature. I'm not going to name all of his powers, but what's to stop Thor from absorbing Flash's energy with Mjolnir? Or whats to stop him from creating an invincible shield around himself or bfr flash via teleportation, or drain his life out of him? There are tons of things Thor can do to beat flash.

Who do you think posted those scans in the respect thread?

Flash can kill Thor before he even reacts to any of this. Thor needs time to absorb, time to go past light speed, time to fire off god blast, time to shield himself, time to BFR, time to drain his SOUL which is all Thor has done. He has never drained someone's life force.

3x light speed is no problem for the Flash.

Either way, there's nothing Thor can do that let's him replicate Flash' striking power.

Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
Thanos isn't relevant anyway, especially if you're using current Strange.Stating doesn't equal, you've used that on people as well. I was arguing for Classic Strange, who no, the imp wouldn't effect.

Read the rules.

Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
(i.e. the same Hulk that bypassed Cyttorak's enchantment on Juggernaut and lived through Blackbolt's "scream".

He didn't BYPASS Cyttorak's enchantment, he pushed Juggernaut. Blackbolt's scream goes up and down, that has been retconned into Skrull Bolt anyways so I don't care.

Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
Surfer I have no doubt he could take it, as he lived through the Crunch. That durability alone (in where 2 Galactus level beings died and he lived) easily puts him out of Flash's league.

Galactus mentioned that they were the energies that "birthed them" and it was an obvious plot item. Only Eradica stated that they were equal to Galactus, the writer stated later on that they were only capable of taking on Galactus thanks to tech from Thanos.

Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
Thor with the power gem. And by the way, Thor with the power gem is >> Superman level strength.

Actually, Superman has far better strength and durability feats than Thor. You don't want to get into that, I'll have to call Avlon, he'll destroy you, etc.

Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
He hasn't accomplished actual measurable speed feats such as the one I listed then. Surfer is faster. When you bend reality with your speed and travel back in time, you are faster.

... Do you know ANYTHING about the Flash at all? Have you even visited his respect thread? Barry Allen did many times light speed back in the 60s and he's not even comparable to Wally.

llagrok
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Bouboumaster
Team 1 pwn JLA

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