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Oftentimes, the villains are far more interesting than the heroes (venom, juggernaut, dr. doom, etc) and seem to be quite popular among fans as well

so why don't any villains have their own ongoing series? is it a morality point...where comic book companies don't want to promote evil? (i doubt it) or is it just because they don't think a villain book would be profitable (i believe the opposite) or is it some other reason I haven't listed?

Maybe because the villains have to lose most of the time and if they are free they are causing trouble or something like that.

Originally posted by Nod
Maybe because the villains have to lose most of the time and if they are free they are causing trouble or something like that.

well if they get their own series, we can actually see them winning...now wouldn't that be cool

also, they could depict villains as multi-dimensional...show their characters beyond just the crimes they commit...show us their motivations and their problems

i think its an untapped market

Originally posted by Master-Borg
Oftentimes, the villains are far more interesting than the heroes (venom, juggernaut, dr. doom, etc) and seem to be quite popular among fans as well

so why don't any villains have their own ongoing series? is it a morality point...where comic book companies don't want to promote evil? (i doubt it) or is it just because they don't think a villain book would be profitable (i believe the opposite) or is it some other reason I haven't listed?

Venom does have his own miniseries, but it would be good to get his own comic.

Originally posted by Master-Borg


i think its an untapped market

I think I agree.

But it would only work with some characters.

I mean if someone like Joker did it would be death and death.

Would be great!!

The problem is having a character we can identify, sympathize, or empathize with enough, to want to follow them month after month.
Dr. Doom was really good in his own series under Marvel's 2099 imprint. And the Suicide Squad made up of villains at DC worked. But these characters are not really doing evil things - they're doing something that's benifiting society in some way. So, once a villain has an ongoing series, they have to change a bit. Even in a miniseries, a character like Sabretooth has to be pacified a little for the reader to want to follow him.

Originally posted by roughrider
The problem is having a character we can identify, sympathize, or empathize with enough, to want to follow them month after month.
Dr. Doom was really good in his own series under Marvel's 2099 imprint. And the Suicide Squad made up of villains at DC worked. But these characters are not really doing evil things - they're doing something that's benifiting society in some way. So, once a villain has an ongoing series, they have to change a bit. Even in a miniseries, a character like Sabretooth has to be pacified a little for the reader to want to follow him.

I think Magneto could have his own series...he doesnt do things to hurt people, in his mind, he's doing good

Salvation Run. Read it.

-Lucifer Morningstar

-Venom

-Death's Head

-Doom 2099

-Negation

-Sojourn



Mini series:

-Onslaught

-Annihilation

The Joker has had his own series.

It lasted about ten issues. Trust me, the less said about it, the better. For everyone. But if you're fine with it being not better, noted comics blogger and owner of the Big Monkey comics chain and podcast had this to say about it: http://absorbascon.blogspot.com/2006/05/joker.html

Roughrider has it right, though, I'd say. And the other problem would be that you require a bit of character conflict to make a series interesting- a character who is just evil or insane, like, say, Carnage, would make for a terrible series. No motivation outside of the fact that he's crazy. It would be exceptionally one-dimensional.

Magneto had a mini a while back, when he was Joseph, before he was retconned to not Joseph... it was... well, I think it could be put down as "very 90s."

Doom's 2099 series was good, Lucifer was good, even though they're "bad guys," because they had interesting reasons for doing what they were doing. They were morally ambiguous rather than being downright evil, and it made for an interesting read. Suicide Squad is, of course, incredible and one of my favorite series of all time, but it wasn't really a series about a villain, and more like a series about a concept that involved villains.

On that theme as well, of morally ambigious-ising the characters in order to make them work as protagonist rather than antagonist, the ever infallabile Simone has done it too: Villians United and Secret Six. But again, it was a case of turning the characters from "evil" into something more up in the air, or at least giving them new motivations rather than just antipathy towards a hero.

Salvation Run is shaping up well- I kind of hope that it means that we're going to get "World War Rogues." That would be sweet.

Certain villains could work well in their own series. I would totally follow a "Luthor" series, especially if it played up the angle that Luthor really believes that Superman is, overall, a detriment to the development of the human race, and made Luthor's reasons for his actions clear.

Thanos Quest

Deadshot had a bitchin' miniseries

Lobo had his own series that went on for quite a while

I want to read the Joker comic lol.

Originally posted by Master-Borg
I think Magneto could have his own series...he doesnt do things to hurt people, in his mind, he's doing good

Heck, he's about to get his own movie. That's how interesting he is, and I would follow a series with him.

Originally posted by SpearofDestiny
-Lucifer Morningstar

-Venom

-Death's Head

-Doom 2099

-Negation

-Sojourn



Plus Deathstroke and Thanos.

Originally posted by Master-Borg
Oftentimes, the villains are far more interesting than the heroes (venom, juggernaut, dr. doom, etc) and seem to be quite popular among fans as well

so why don't any villains have their own ongoing series? is it a morality point...where comic book companies don't want to promote evil? (i doubt it) or is it just because they don't think a villain book would be profitable (i believe the opposite) or is it some other reason I haven't listed? I wish they had their own series' more often too. Luckily they bless us every so often with a mini.

Well,anongoing would have to focus on a fairly unambitious villian generally,as you can't really have a series about a villian with world domination in mind,nless you have them pull of a series of smaller missions for the grand scheme,then conquer earth,then be deposed,then be on the run and try to rebuild their empire...

Meh,a good writer could give atleast 30 issues.

yeppers, ive got the first issue of the joker series. its worth alot of coin, about a 9.4 grade

Originally posted by Martian_mind
Well,anongoing would have to focus on a fairly unambitious villian generally,as you can't really have a series about a villian with world domination in mind,nless you have them pull of a series of smaller missions for the grand scheme,then conquer earth,then be deposed,then be on the run and try to rebuild their empire...

Meh,a good writer could give atleast 30 issues.

Pinky and the Brain

.....Wasn't that a TV series?

Joker series or mini would be cool if written right. We do have a Black Adam mini out right now.. I might pick that up later today...

Originally posted by Neo Darkhalen
Venom does have his own miniseries, but it would be good to get his own comic.

Nah.

Originally posted by pr1983
Salvation Run. Read it.

Meh, it's pretty good, not great.

Chen's still an idiot for hopping off of NOVA for this.

I rather like Salvation run and BA the Dark age.

Joker killing psimon=Priceless

I preferred how everybody was like "Oh, here we go again, Luthor presumes he's in charge" and then he wins them all over with his speech, that was pretty damn awesome.

Anyone or anything under Luthor's leadership's going to do well.

Originally posted by Martian_mind

Meh,a good writer could give atleast 30 issues. Deathstroke had 60 and 4 annuals with Wolfman at the pen.

Originally posted by Citizen V
I preferred how everybody was like "Oh, here we go again, Luthor presumes he's in charge" and then he wins them all over with his speech, that was pretty damn awesome.

Anyone or anything under Luthor's leadership's going to do well.

That's what I liked in the animated series, when they started to go by names like Secret Society or Legion of Doom, rather than Injustice League. Because as Grodd put it, they are a collection of individuals whose ambitions put them at odds with the straight world, and that power should be used for your own benefit, not for the benefit of others. That's when villains are at their most interesting, when they don't think they're doing bad things, but doing what feels right to them. I'd like to see more of that in comics.

And despite everything he's done, I still feel sympathy for Black Adam, and wish he could work things out. DC just put him in a box he could only get out of with violence.

Originally posted by Citizen V
Nah.



Meh, it's pretty good, not great.

Chen's still an idiot for hopping off of NOVA for this.

Originally posted by Citizen V
I preferred how everybody was like "Oh, here we go again, Luthor presumes he's in charge" and then he wins them all over with his speech, that was pretty damn awesome.

Anyone or anything under Luthor's leadership's going to do well.

so you like it? or not?



























































































i never said it was great, but as you said, pretty good, and its an example of villains having their own series, so...

How long will it be?

Originally posted by Citizen V
Nah.

Yeah...

Originally posted by Nod
How long will it be?

I think it's 8 issues? Two have already shipped though.

Originally posted by Neo Darkhalen
Yeah...

Nah.

What other great villains deserve a series hmmm...

Originally posted by Neo Darkhalen
Yeah...
nah.

Originally posted by Neo Darkhalen
What other great villains deserve a series hmmm... Doom. Magneto. Thanos. Prime... although that wouldn't last long... Black Adam. Etc.

Supervillian team up was probably the first series of Super villian comics.

Originally posted by Master-Borg
I think Magneto could have his own series...he doesnt do things to hurt people, in his mind, he's doing good

He had one A long time ago and didn't do well.

DeadPool, I almost forgot

Originally posted by endrict
He had one A long time ago and didn't do well.

You mean the mini where he was Joseph? That was god-awful bad. Or is there some other one that I don't know about?