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Surfer solos.
if Superman can hang with it, Surfer can hang it!

Doomsday could destroy them all with ease.

Originally posted by janus77
Surfer solos.
if Superman can hang with it, Surfer can hang it!

Superman didn't hang with Hunter Prey.

A motherbox-amped Superman was shredded by Doomsday.

Further - by your definition, Superman has 'hung' with Imperiex, the Antimonitor, and Dominus.

Who the Surfer would shit stomp? .

Without BFR, Doomsday wins.

surfer rewrites DD's DNA and makes him into a docile llama.

come on, Surfer's far stronger and more durable than Superman, far faster, has stupendous variety of offensive options, can matter manipulate DD too and most importantly combine it with CA to really deconstruct DD on the sub-atomic, atomic, molecular and cellular levels.

About half of janus's post is right

And the other half is pure fail

It will all be pure fail (most likly) If someone can tell me is DD's ever had his Dna changed before

Originally posted by Gecko4lif
About half of janus's post is right

And the other half is pure fail

It will all be pure fail (most likly) If someone can tell me is DD's ever had his Dna changed before

Actually Lex has changed his DNA to make DD weak to Kryptonite.
-- edit --
He also altered Doomsday's DNA to make him think that the Imperiex drones were Superman.

Oh and Silver Surfer soloes. H/P can adapt, but not being dying. Silver Surfer can come up with an endless variety of different energy signatures, so while Doomsday may adapt to one, Silver Surfer can simply switch spectrum and annihilate Doomsday.

Surfer's versatility is the key to victory here, not his raw power.

hysterical

Originally posted by Kutulu
Oh and Silver Surfer soloes. H/P can adapt, but not being dying. Silver Surfer can come up with an endless variety of different energy signatures, so while Doomsday may adapt to one, Silver Surfer can simply switch spectrum and annihilate Doomsday.

Surfer's versatility is the key to victory here, not his raw power.
Surfer isnt that smart thou

Originally posted by Gecko4lif
Surfer isnt that smart thou

orly

Originally posted by Kutulu
orly
http://www.orlyowl.com/upload/files/YA-RLY.jpg

Originally posted by Gecko4lif
Surfer isnt that smart thou

Reforms Obliterators' weapons into harmless ones:
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/silver_surfer_1987_005_21.jpg

Transforms Nebulosa's armor, locking her within:
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/Silver_Surfer_1995_110_20.jpg

Causes Jack of Hearts pain via transforming his internal energies:
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/Cosmic_Powers_Unlimited_03_21.jpg

Absorbs and redirects the psychokinetic energy of Psycho-man:
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/Silver_Surfer_v3_144_06.jpg

Re-arranges nanotech armor of Alicia Masters:
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/GalactusTheDevourer2-13.jpg
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/GalactusTheDevourer2-14.jpg

Takes off a plague from thousands of bodies, cell by cell:
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/CosPowUnlim_1996_004_27.jpg
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/CosPowUnlim_1996_004_28.jpg

Thinking in Superspeed (In less than a nano-second he analyses the situation and gain self confidence to escape.
Just to measure a nanosecond. A blink, an automatic one, that everybody blinks few times every minutes and we can't realize that we blink because it's so fast. It lasts fifty million nano-seconds.
In a nanosecond, the light covers only 30 centimeters.)
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/marvel_comics_presents_001-29.jpg

Evolves an entire planet billions of years:
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/Silver_Surfer_Vol3-015b.jpg
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/Silver_Surfer_Vol3-016.jpg

Heals Thor:
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/Avengers_v2_012_38.jpg

Defeats the Champion:
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/silver_surfer_1987_001_10.jpg
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/silver_surfer_1987_001_11.jpg
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/silver_surfer_1987_001_12.jpg
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/silver_surfer_1987_001_13.jpg
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/silver_surfer_1987_001_14.jpg
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/silver_surfer_1987_001_15.jpg

Imprisons Genis within his board:
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/Silver_Surfer_1996_122_17.jpg

Defeats a psionic entity with a telepathic bolt:
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/Silver_Surfer_v3_minus1_p17.jpg
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/Silver_Surfer_v3_minus1_p18.jpg
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/Silver_Surfer_v3_minus1_p21.jpg
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/Silver_Surfer_v3_minus1_p22.jpg

Compresses his body into the microverse:
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/GalactusTheDevourer2-19a.jpg

Goes through the whole electromagnetic spectrum looking for Thanos:
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/Silver_Surfer_037-02.jpg
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/Silver_Surfer_037-03.jpg

Analyzes the Hulk's energies:
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/Silver_Surfer_1997_125_15.jpg

Blasts Orion like a chump in a non-canon crossover:
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/Darkseid_vs_Galactus33.jpg
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/Darkseid_vs_Galactus37.jpg

Surfer easily has the speed to get it done, the power range to do it, and the knowledge of energy to figure it out.

It was probably about a year ago when I was debating with someone about Surfer fighting Doomsday. I didn't know that much about Doomsday's evolving abilities, and my worthy opponent made the case that Doomsday -- by definition (or original conception) -- is immune to energy attacks. He posted scans from DD's battle with the Radiant (I believe it was), scans showing the Radiant not only being unable to rewrite DD's DNA, but DD reflecting the Radiant's energy right back at him, taking him out.

I was making the case that the Surfer could undermine the very mechanism (whether it be genetic, molecular or quantum-level) which enables DD to evolve in the first place, but since this still involved an application of energy, my opponent insisted this too would fail.

I backed off mainly because, again, I didn't know that much about Doomsday, and I accepted that -- by definition -- this is what DD is about. I don't like this line of thinking, it reinforces in my mind the "plot device" aspect of the Doomsday character. Nonetheless, at the time, I felt I was respecting this Doomsday aspect by conceding that only through BFR could the Surfer win.

However, if Lex Luthor could change DD's DNA...then I am inclined to rethink the outcome of a Surfer vs DD fight, sans BFR (ie, that SS should be able to come up with some form of energy attack able to neutralize Doomsday, or at least first take out his ability to adapt to attacks).

The issue where DD's DNA was changed was written by Loeb.
Oh and in the same book Doomsday was breathing flame.haermm

Originally posted by Mindship
It was probably about a year ago when I was debating with someone about Surfer fighting Doomsday. I didn't know that much about Doomsday's evolving abilities, and my worthy opponent made the case that Doomsday -- by definition (or original conception) -- is immune to energy attacks. He posted scans from DD's battle with the Radiant (I believe it was), scans showing the Radiant not only being unable to rewrite DD's DNA, but DD reflecting the Radiant's energy right back at him, taking him out.

I was making the case that the Surfer could undermine the very mechanism (whether it be genetic, molecular or quantum-level) which enables DD to evolve in the first place, but since this still involved an application of energy, my opponent insisted this too would fail.

I backed off mainly because, again, I didn't know that much about Doomsday, and I accepted that -- by definition -- this is what DD is about. I don't like this line of thinking, it reinforces in my mind the "plot device" aspect of the Doomsday character. Nonetheless, at the time, I felt I was respecting this Doomsday aspect by conceding that only through BFR could the Surfer win.

However, if Lex Luthor could change DD's DNA...then I am inclined to rethink the outcome of a Surfer vs DD fight, sans BFR (ie, that SS should be able to come up with some form of energy attack able to neutralize Doomsday, or at least first take out his ability to adapt to attacks).

The Doomsday being immune to energy is a fallacy. What truly happened was if Doomsday was attacked by a type of energy and died from it, he would become immune or highly resistant to that type of energy.

So in the instance of fighting Radiant, Doomsday's body adapted to Radiant's energy signature so that he could fight him. We know for a fact though that he wasn't immune to all energy, as when he got blasted by Imperiex he was reduced to bones. During H/P he was adapting to energy on the fly, but it still affected him at first, for example Superman using a sonic attack.

So even during H/P we know that Doomsday could be affected by energy, as evidenced by when he got blasted by Darkseid's OE he was clearly put down for a bit, and the sonics did in fact hurt him, at first.

Surfer can manipulate and use just about any energy, so Doomsday might adapt to one attack, Surfer can simply switch the type of energy / wavelength that he is using and continue to affect him. Once he sees what Doomsday is doing then he can overcome it, and he has a history of defeating characters by being inventive with ways to use his cosmic energy and convert one energy source to another. So there is a very clear precedent and case for Surfer winning this fight.

Originally posted by Estacado
The issue where DD's DNA was changed was written by Loeb.
Oh and in the same book Doomsday was breathing flame.haermm

It's still canon.

Originally posted by Kutulu
So there is a very clear precedent and case for Surfer winning this fight. Well, you certainly wouldn't have to twist my arm to accept this.

Originally posted by janus77
surfer rewrites DD's DNA and makes him into a docile llama.

come on, Surfer's far stronger and more durable than Superman, far faster, has stupendous variety of offensive options, can matter manipulate DD too and most importantly combine it with CA to really deconstruct DD on the sub-atomic, atomic, molecular and cellular levels. I disagree.

Originally posted by Kutulu
Actually Lex has changed his DNA to make DD weak to Kryptonite.
-- edit --
He also altered Doomsday's DNA to make him think that the Imperiex drones were Superman. This wasn't the full working model of Doomsday. Only his lifeless skeleton that Darkseid retrieved after Imperiex leveled him. Hence his regeneration and evolution factors were not in effect.

Originally posted by Kutulu
It's still canon. Not to Hunter/Prey, given the event happened nearly a decade later, so not neccisarily usable here. Also considering as I said in my last post, it wasn't an evolving regerating living Doomsday, but a lifeless skeleton.

Originally posted by Kutulu
The Doomsday being immune to energy is a fallacy. What truly happened was if Doomsday was attacked by a type of energy and died from it, he would become immune or highly resistant to that type of energy.

So in the instance of fighting Radiant, Doomsday's body adapted to Radiant's energy signature so that he could fight him. We know for a fact though that he wasn't immune to all energy, as when he got blasted by Imperiex he was reduced to bones. During H/P he was adapting to energy on the fly, but it still affected him at first, for example Superman using a sonic attack.

So even during H/P we know that Doomsday could be affected by energy, as evidenced by when he got blasted by Darkseid's OE he was clearly put down for a bit, and the sonics did in fact hurt him, at first.

Surfer can manipulate and use just about any energy, so Doomsday might adapt to one attack, Surfer can simply switch the type of energy / wavelength that he is using and continue to affect him. Once he sees what Doomsday is doing then he can overcome it, and he has a history of defeating characters by being inventive with ways to use his cosmic energy and convert one energy source to another. So there is a very clear precedent and case for Surfer winning this fight.



It's still canon.

For the billionth time it was DD's anti-dna that Imperiex used and not an energy blast. Imperiex knew of DD (as stated in his narrative) since his creation.

You know that DD is immune to all energy projection as explained by D.C.? DD survived the OE and the entire might of the JLA's power beams without a scratch without ever encountering this forces before (he was already immune). You know that DD evolves on the spot right (he doesn't need to die to evolve)? So he clearly doesn't have to die to be immune to something.

Anyway DD kills these two in a matter of seconds.

Originally posted by janus77


come on, Surfer's far stronger and more durable than Superman, far faster, has stupendous variety of offensive options, can matter manipulate DD too and most importantly combine it with CA to really deconstruct DD on the sub-atomic, atomic, molecular and cellular levels.

Surfer is nowhere as physically strong or physically durable as Superman (what have you been reading?) and no where near as fast (accept space travel) and Surfer can't even transmute nigh-invulnerable opponents (such as other Thanos, Thor, etc.). And DD is immune to transmutation as shown by the OE. This implies that DD is not necessarily made out of atoms. And if he is then he obviously has an aura of protection (like Superman) to prevent his demise through energy transmutation. Surfer gets wreck before he can respond with just one claw send through his brain.

Originally posted by h1a8
For the billionth time it was DD's anti-dna that Imperiex used and not an energy blast. Imperiex knew of DD (as stated in his narrative) since his creation.

You know that DD is immune to all energy projection as explained by D.C.? DD survived the OE and the entire might of the JLA's power beams without a scratch without ever encountering this forces before (he was already immune). You know that DD evolves on the spot right (he doesn't need to die to evolve)? So he clearly doesn't have to die to be immune to something.

Anyway DD kills these two in a matter of seconds.

What are you talking about with anti-DNA? umm

The fight vs. Imperiex:
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o97/juggernaut666666/1-26.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o97/juggernaut666666/2-18.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o97/juggernaut666666/3-18.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o97/juggernaut666666/4-14.jpg

When Imperiex refers to cosmic anomaly, he's referring to Superman. He then mentions let the bacteria be expunged, basically saying he's going to destroy Superman. DD pushes Superman aside and rushes in to attack, and gets one-shotted by an energy blast.

DD is not immune to all energy. He only can adapt to energy which was used against him. He cannot evolve against something he's never experienced or has not been used against him.

Originally posted by Kutulu
The Doomsday being immune to energy is a fallacy. What truly happened was if Doomsday was attacked by a type of energy and died from it, he would become immune or highly resistant to that type of energy.

So in the instance of fighting Radiant, Doomsday's body adapted to Radiant's energy signature so that he could fight him. We know for a fact though that he wasn't immune to all energy, as when he got blasted by Imperiex he was reduced to bones. During H/P he was adapting to energy on the fly, but it still affected him at first, for example Superman using a sonic attack.

So even during H/P we know that Doomsday could be affected by energy, as evidenced by when he got blasted by Darkseid's OE he was clearly put down for a bit, and the sonics did in fact hurt him, at first.

Surfer can manipulate and use just about any energy, so Doomsday might adapt to one attack, Surfer can simply switch the type of energy / wavelength that he is using and continue to affect him. Once he sees what Doomsday is doing then he can overcome it, and he has a history of defeating characters by being inventive with ways to use his cosmic energy and convert one energy source to another. So there is a very clear precedent and case for Surfer winning this fight.



It's still canon.

Thats about right to me...i like your way of thinking

If mr freeze killed doomsday with cold...then iceman could kill doomsday with cold..then maybe ymir up to abstracts?

But i do give HP doomsday the adaption on the fly...which is impressive but not indestructable

I wonder how two supermen took out doomsday in IC...is he not immune to physical attacks? i would say that the two of them brang more physical force than what was used to kill him physicly the last time

Originally posted by Kutulu
What are you talking about with anti-DNA? umm

The fight vs. Imperiex:
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o97/juggernaut666666/1-26.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o97/juggernaut666666/2-18.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o97/juggernaut666666/3-18.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o97/juggernaut666666/4-14.jpg

When Imperiex refers to cosmic anomaly, he's referring to Superman. He then mentions let the bacteria be expunged, basically saying he's going to destroy Superman. DD pushes Superman aside and rushes in to attack, and gets one-shotted by an energy blast.
If you look into Imperiex's hand before he struck DD then you would see something resembling DNA. His talk of expunging bacteria backs this up. It is common sense that Imperiex devolved DD.


Also, you are forgetting that DD is immune to all energy projection as explained by D.C. and the fact that DD survived the OE and the entire might of the JLA's power beams without a scratch without ever encountering this forces before (he was already immune). I repeat, "He never encounter those forces before ever and resisted them without a scratch". This confirms D.C. narration that he is immune to energy projection.

Originally posted by starlock
Thats about right to me...i like your way of thinking

If mr freeze killed doomsday with cold...then iceman could kill doomsday with cold..then maybe ymir up to abstracts?

But i do give HP doomsday the adaption on the fly...which is impressive but not indestructable

I wonder how two supermen took out doomsday in IC...is he not immune to physical attacks? i would say that the two of them brang more physical force than what was used to kill him physicly the last time

First, one of those superman was a precrisis kryptonian who was able to crack his way thru a time barrier with physical force. Nothing is beyond them. Secondly, this is hunter prey doomsday. Meaning that all other versions of doomsday are Irrelevant.
Surfer and Orion Die. That version of Doomsday could only be killed by entropy. Something that Orion and surfer do not control, and couldn't survive even if they did manage to unleash it. HP Doomsay beats the shit out of ORion and Surfer. He evolves into lead and crushes orion, and turns into lightning and pwns surfer.

Originally posted by h1a8
If you look into Imperiex's hand before he struck DD then you would see something resembling DNA. His talk of expunging bacteria backs this up. It is common sense that Imperiex devolved DD.

It's not common sense. I just looked at the scans again and see no DNA. You're just making up garbage at this point, there is nothing on-panel to state that Imperiex somehow devolved Doomsday. He refers to him as bacteria and then completely demolishes him in one shot of energy. Your claim of "anti-DNA" is completely unfounded.



Incorrect once again. If Doomsday was truly immune to energy, then the OE wouldn't have knocked him down for so long, it wouldn't have affected him at all. Your argument just flew out the window. Because he survives a large energy attack doesn't mean he's immune to energy attacks.

Originally posted by Kutulu


It's not common sense. I just looked at the scans again and see no DNA. You're just making up garbage at this point, there is nothing on-panel to state that Imperiex somehow devolved Doomsday. He refers to him as bacteria and then completely demolishes him in one shot of energy. Your claim of "anti-DNA" is completely unfounded.



Incorrect once again. If Doomsday was truly immune to energy, then the OE wouldn't have knocked him down for so long, it wouldn't have affected him at all. Your argument just flew out the window. Because he survives a large energy attack doesn't mean he's immune to energy attacks.
YOu do realize that imperiex is an uber abstract being. Trying to use his energy at all fails. And it was even hunter prey doomsday. SO the argument is dead anyway. This is H/P doosmday. And YOu do realize that DS never Used the OE on doomsday right? At least have your info together.

Originally posted by Kutulu


It's not common sense. I just looked at the scans again and see no DNA. You're just making up garbage at this point, there is nothing on-panel to state that Imperiex somehow devolved Doomsday. He refers to him as bacteria and then completely demolishes him in one shot of energy. Your claim of "anti-DNA" is completely unfounded.



Incorrect once again. If Doomsday was truly immune to energy, then the OE wouldn't have knocked him down for so long, it wouldn't have affected him at all. Your argument just flew out the window. Because he survives a large energy attack doesn't mean he's immune to energy attacks.

Dude get some glasses because if you can't see that chain of molecules (DNA) in his hand them you as sure need some. I admit that it is hard to see but if you have decent vision (its probably better for you to see it in the actual paper comic though like I did) then you should easily see it.

And you are not acknowledging that you are wrong when I proved that your statement was false about you saying that DD becomes only immune when he encounters the force and not before. Now if you had some humility then you would at least admit that you are wrong here. The OE erases,teleports, transmutes, etc. Yet it only pushed DD back into some rubble. DD didn't even have a single scratch on him. Yeah, I would say that he is immune.

Lastly, the OE>>>>>>>>>>>SS blast's.
DD's speed burst>>>>>>>>SS reactions.
DD's claw send>>>>>>>>SS's brain.
No contest.

Originally posted by h1a8
Dude get some glasses because if you can't see that chain of molecules (DNA) in his hand them you as sure need some. I admit that it is hard to see but if you have decent vision (its probably better for you to see it in the actual paper comic though like I did) then you should easily see it.


I have gone over the scan 10 times and still don't see the DNA. What in blue blazes are you talking about? Does anybody else in this forum see Imperiex using DNA?

For the record there is no such thing as anti-DNA. That's not how DNA works.

It doesn't matter what Imperiex did to OWAW doomsday, since that DD isn't being debated here.

For the record, Imperiex simply slagged DD.

Steel in the Aegis also slagged DD.

Tho it stands to reason that any DD after hp would be more powerful than HP, since HP established that he always comes back stronger. But only HP had DD evolving on the fly.

DD isn't immune to energy tho, and anyone who says that is flatout being dishonest.

And it wasn't the Radiant who was disbursed with the feedback, but Waverider.

Radiant had his energy form cancelled, because it was an energy DD faced before.

Surfer or Orion could possibly come up with something exotic, but Orion would likely rush in to meet the monster head on, Surfer would try to aid him, and both would get koed.

Originally posted by Kutulu
I have gone over the scan 10 times and still don't see the DNA. What in blue blazes are you talking about? Does anybody else in this forum see Imperiex using DNA?

For the record there is no such thing as anti-DNA. That's not how DNA works.

In the second scan look into Imperiex's hand (bottom left picture). What do you see?

Originally posted by UniOmni
For the record, Imperiex simply slagged DD.


Thank you. Nobody else that I've ever spoken / chatted with, on any forum, ever thought that Imperiex was using "anti-DNA" to attack Doomsday. This is the absolute first time I have heard anybody say that on any messageboard.

Originally posted by h1a8
In the second scan look into Imperiex's hand (bottom left picture). What do you see?

I see a burst of energy getting ready to slag Doomsday.

Originally posted by UniOmni
It doesn't matter what Imperiex did to OWAW doomsday, since that DD isn't being debated here.

For the record, Imperiex simply slagged DD.

Steel in the Aegis also slagged DD.

Tho it stands to reason that any DD after hp would be more powerful than HP, since HP established that he always comes back stronger. But only HP had DD evolving on the fly.

DD isn't immune to energy tho, and anyone who says that is flatout being dishonest.

And it wasn't the Radiant who was disbursed with the feedback, but Waverider.

Radiant had his energy form cancelled, because it was an energy DD faced before.

Surfer or Orion could possibly come up with something exotic, but Orion would likely rush in to meet the monster head on, Surfer would try to aid him, and both would get koed. Agree for the most part.

Tough to say a more current one is neccisarily more powerful however. Though I won't get into that, because it's not neccisary here.

And Waverider had his powers used against him and was KOed, for trying to mess with HP/DD's biological systems. I'm likely to say it wouldn't be a great plan for Surfer to try the same.


I can easily see the fight going as you said in a comic-scenario, and it's kind of funny and brutal at once.

Not to say they -can't- win, just that it's unlikely, imo.

Surfer BfRs Doomsday.

Originally posted by Kutulu
I see a burst of energy getting ready to slag Doomsday.

Besides the glowing energy do you see any thing in the center of his palm?

doomsday runs through them with ease

Originally posted by h1a8
Besides the glowing energy do you see any thing in the center of his palm?

I see a couple splotches in the inking... I enlarged the scan so that his hand filled the entire screen, and still do not see DNA in there, sorry.

Originally posted by Kutulu
What are you talking about with anti-DNA? umm

The fight vs. Imperiex:
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o97/juggernaut666666/1-26.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o97/juggernaut666666/2-18.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o97/juggernaut666666/3-18.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o97/juggernaut666666/4-14.jpg

When Imperiex refers to cosmic anomaly, he's referring to Superman. He then mentions let the bacteria be expunged, basically saying he's going to destroy Superman. DD pushes Superman aside and rushes in to attack, and gets one-shotted by an energy blast.

DD is not immune to all energy. He only can adapt to energy which was used against him. He cannot evolve against something he's never experienced or has not been used against him.
It would have been pretty ridiculous if DD would have survived a blast from a universal threat.

Originally posted by Estacado
It would have been pretty ridiculous if DD would have survived a blast from a universal threat.

Agreed.

Surfer very easily screw with DD's dna for the win, but I don't think he would be along those lines of manipulative thinking....otherwise for obvious reason, they stalemate.

Originally posted by h1a8
If you look into Imperiex's hand before he struck DD then you would see something resembling DNA.
Originally posted by Kutulu
I have gone over the scan 10 times and still don't see the DNA...Does anybody else in this forum see Imperiex using DNA?
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o97/juggernaut666666/2-18.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o97/juggernaut666666/3-18.jpg

All I see coming out of Imperiex's hand is a burst of blue-white light and things resembling lil' Silver Surfer boards. I don't see anything even closely resembling a spiral, let alone a molecular double-helix.

And as far as Imperiex using "anti-DNA": again there is nothing in his dialogue to even suggest this. His reference to bacteria is an old scifi gimmick often stated by advanced beings to show, by comparison (usually derogatory), just how truly advanced/evolved they are.

Besides, if you wanna wipe out bacteria, any good hand soap will do. Perhaps those lil' surfboards are soap bubbles distorted into ovals via momentum...

Originally posted by horrorwolf
Surfer very easily screw with DD's dna for the win, but I don't think he would be along those lines of manipulative thinking....otherwise for obvious reason, they stalemate.

Surfer Stalemate with a guy who made Waverider, an amped Superman, and DS look like kids? Waverider>>>>>>>>>>>>Surfer.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Surfer Stalemate with a guy who made Waverider, an amped Superman, and DS look like kids? Waverider>>>>>>>>>>>>Surfer. Waverider did nothing in that battle at all, Superman was being healed constantly by Motherbox while still getting his butt kicked easily, and Darksied did nothing but get nearly killed after hitting Doomsday with a cheapshot that barley phased Doomsday. Not one of them remotely ever tried doing anything Surfer can do since Supermna can't, Waverider stayed out of the fight, and Darkseid just blasted him with his eye beams while saying nothing can survive them even though he can do more than physical force with them. So that's not a fair comparison at all. Doomsday's already beaten Orion quite easily though unless Doomsday can evolve fast enough I don't see him beating Surfer much less Surfer and Orion even if I think Orion wouldn't be the major threat in the fight.

Speed kills.
And DD has it in his claw send.