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Michael Demiurgos the Archangel


Welcome to the Michael Demiurgos Demiurgos Respect Thread. It’s about time Michael got a respect thread. Michael is the first and most powerful being in creation and my favorite character of the Lucifer series. He is noble, obedient, courageous, and motivating. He serves as an excellent foil to his egotistical brother, Lucifer, as he shows compassion and care for others than himself. Michael plays and played a pivotal role in creation as he gave birth to the first matter and later, along with Lucifer and Elaine, endeavored to save creation. (Creation was saved.)
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Now for the feats, scans, and accomplishments.

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"God had vested in you the Dermurgic power. The word of fire that builds and breaks.
You could have ended the war right then. Ended all of use with a gesture."

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Reflect a moment. Michael is a vessel for the divine power. If he dies—if that vessel cracks—the worlds will be scoured clean of life. There will be nothing left.

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Lucifer takes Michael outside creation for a controlled detonation and using Michael’s power, creates his own universe.

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Michael is the most powerful being in creation.

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The million-throated susurrus of those words induce confusion and madness. But the archangel Michael is proof against them.

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Only the Demurgic power, bestowed by God himself, could bring a new cosmos out of the endless, beginningless nothing.
Michael released an explosion so vast it had only been seen once before (the first creation).

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"You cannot come before God unless you are called.
An event that occurs less frequently than ice ages."
Guess who got called?

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He was called because he had sent Cherub Gaudium to save Elaine. Michael is essentially the reason that Lucifer lived. God had ordered the angels to not interfere, for Lucifer’s death was inevitable. But because Michael loved his daughter Elaine, and knowing that she would die along with Lucifer, he attempted to save her through the fallen Cherub, and ultimately Elaine ended up sacrificing her life to give Lucifer life again.

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Michael lays the smackdown on an enormous monster.

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The Presence/God on Michael:
Michael Demiurgos—spark that expands forever—ocean of power with no shore.

Also shows how Michael is the seed that brought forth light.

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People like to say how Lucifer defies God’s orders in such, but in fact, Luficer was doing exactly what God wanted him to do. Yahweh almost despaired because Michael was so reluctant to even question him.

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Michael vaporizes two angels with a gesture. This is after he found out the Yahweh chose Lucifer as his successor.

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Another scan showing how Michael could easily have destroyed the entire host of heaven.

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Michael was the first thing God created, along with his brother Lucifer.
Michael’s demurigic power gave birth to the first matter.

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Michael goes into the Logos, the Words of God live. Note how he does it with ease, while Elaine struggles in pain.

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Michael uses his power in an explosion and his power becomes everyone!

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"That is impossible! What you suggest only God can do."

"He is the Demiurge. God chose him as his second. Now as God’s mark fades and creation falters, Michael renews it moment by moment."

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Lucifer generates a colossally powerful explosion. All this does is make Michael angry.

Plus, Michael looks badass in the last scan. 131

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Lucifer and Michael fight. Fenris mind-raped Lucifer by pouring some of his blood in him.

Lucifer and Michael were both severely weakened by the harsh journey and Michael landed on his back and thus his wings broke (first scan). Not only that, but the illustrations and content clearly show that Michael was trying to help Lucifer snap out of the mind attack, instead of actually trying to kill him. All these variables sadly resulted in Michael dying.

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Michael’s death. (Two different issues, thus the repetition.)

“There is a power within me. The Dunamis Demuirgos. God’s power. When I die it will pour out of me and overwhelm everything that exists.”

Elaine has to take her father’s power. She almost disintegrates in her valiant attempt, but with Lucifer’s help, they make it through. A new beginning is born. (And Lucifer looks like a burnt toast of bread )

Elaine ended up creating her own universe with Michael’s power to ease the transition. I’ll post some scans of it later if I feel like it.

That pretty much sums up Michael's greatest feats. If I missed some feats, feel free to post them here. I wish there were more appearances of Michael in the Lucifer series, however, the series is called Lucifer for a reason.

Hope you guys like it. This is my first respect thread.

Air I love you jp. Very nice thread dude. Oh you forgot a few more scans. Here is one of them where the Seraphs and Michael talk and they are scared of him...

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s132/Erik_Magnus_Lensherr/scan0005.jpg

Also in Children and Monsters if you have the scan can u put up where Sandalphon the angel made a realm called The InBetween City and its kept alive by Michael's presence, after he leaves the realm literally falls apart. Also I think Michael's showings in the DCU should be here as well.

Should be noted that Elaine made another creation accidentally using Michael's power, if she can do it Michael most def should be able to!

Originally posted by kevdude
Air I love you jp. Very nice thread dude.

Ha ha. Thanks.
Originally posted by kevdude
Oh you forgot a few more scans. Here is one of them where the Seraphs and Michael talk and they are scared of him...

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s132/Erik_Magnus_Lensherr/scan0005.jpg

Originally posted by kevdude
Also in Children and Monsters if you have the scan can u put up where Sandalphon the angel made a realm called The InBetween City and its kept alive by Michael's presence, after he leaves the realm literally falls apart. Also I think Michael's showings in the DCU should be here as well.

Should be noted that Elaine made another creation accidentally using Michael's power, if she can do it Michael most def should be able to!
Yeah, I have it thanks for telling me. I'll put it up soon.

I noted at the end that I might post some scans of Elaine's creation if I'm feeling up to it.

Great respect thread.

Nice Thread!!!

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Sandalphon betrayed heaven and shamefully stabbed Michael in the back.

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Sandolphon had imprisoned Michael in a wicked and grotesque attempt to produce angel offspring through him.
Even through all the excruciating and agonizing torture Sandolphon has put him through, Michael does not feel pain.

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We find out that Michael's power was the only thing holding the realm together.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Great respect thread.

Originally posted by Tork
Nice Thread!!!

Thanks guys!

What series is this from?

Vertigo's Lucifer.

I've barely seen the character in the DCU, so I can't wait to see some of those scans. Nice work so far.

Originally posted by Air Legend
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Lucifer takes Michael outside creation for a controlled detonation and using Michael’s power, creates his own universe. Actually,
Lucifer created much more than a single Universe:

http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/6702/lucifermultiversezd8.th.jpg


Basically,
There was enough energy within Michael to create a Multiverse.




Good job on the thread, btw.

Originally posted by Galan007
Actually,
Lucifer created much more than a single Universe:

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Nope. Here's proof:

http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/5972/scan0043ds2.th.jpg

http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/2408/scan0042xt1.th.jpg

http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/83/scan0039nv1.th.jpg

http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/5572/scan0038ox1.th.jpg

http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/5371/scan0048bx8.th.jpg

http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/2087/scan0045mu4.th.jpg

http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/5868/scan0046ez2.th.jpg

http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/2125/scan0047qx4.th.jpg

There are more instances, but this is more than enough.
There is no need to exaggerate the feat, as creating a universe is quite an accomplishment by itself.
Originally posted by Galan007
Basically,
There was enough energy within Michael to create a Multiverse.
Michael has enough energy within him to fill whatever space is available.

The Presence/God on Michael:
Michael Demiurgos—spark that expands forever—ocean of power with no shore.

Originally posted by Galan007
Good job on the thread, btw.
Meaningless words from someone who constantly tries to defame me.

Originally posted by Bazrox
Nice work so far.
Thanks!!

Micheal beats Spectre's ass...
http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/4223/spectre0007zj1.jpg
http://img436.imageshack.us/img436/4981/spectre0008pj3.jpg
http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/7651/spectre0009it4.jpg
*Stolen from Skeets*

Twice.
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/owned/Spectre_1993_10-12.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/owned/Spectre_1993_10-13-15.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/owned/Spectre_1993_10-16.jpg

You don't beat someone that easily to be called slightly above.
Micheal seems like he's leaps and bounds above Spectre, which would make him far above anyone else as well... since Spectre's referred to as the most powerful being in existence.

Good thread.

Great thread.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Micheal beats Spectre's ass...
http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/4223/spectre0007zj1.jpg
http://img436.imageshack.us/img436/4981/spectre0008pj3.jpg
http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/7651/spectre0009it4.jpg
*Stolen from Skeets*

Twice.
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/owned/Spectre_1993_10-12.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/owned/Spectre_1993_10-13-15.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/owned/Spectre_1993_10-16.jpg

You don't beat someone that easily to be called slightly above.
Micheal seems like he's leaps and bounds above Spectre, which would make him far above anyone else as well... since Spectre's referred to as the most powerful being in existence.

Good thread.
You gotta take into consideration the context of their fights.
Michael is unbeatable while acting in God stead.

Originally posted by Avlon
Great thread.
Ah thanks.
Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Micheal beats Spectre's ass...
http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/4223/spectre0007zj1.jpg
http://img436.imageshack.us/img436/4981/spectre0008pj3.jpg
http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/7651/spectre0009it4.jpg
*Stolen from Skeets*

Twice.
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/owned/Spectre_1993_10-12.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/owned/Spectre_1993_10-13-15.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/owned/Spectre_1993_10-16.jpg

You don't beat someone that easily to be called slightly above.
Micheal seems like he's leaps and bounds above Spectre, which would make him far above anyone else as well... since Spectre's referred to as the most powerful being in existence.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Good thread.
Thanks man.

Originally posted by Mr.Biscuits
You gotta take into consideration the context of their fights.
Michael is unbeatable while acting in God stead.
Michael has full power as long as God is present. He doesn't have to be in God's graces to be at full power.

Originally posted by Air Legend
Michael has full power as long as God is present. He doesn't have to be in God's graces to be at full power.
I didn't say otherwise.

In the first fight Michael was acting on the Presence Behalf, as shown in the last scan.
The second fight was Spectre trying to gain entrace to Heaven, which he's not allowed to enter.

From what I've seen The Presence favors Michael above all...

Originally posted by Mr.Biscuits
I didn't say otherwise.

In the first fight Michael was acting on the Presence Behalf, as shown in the last scan.
The second fight was Spectre trying to gain entrace to Heaven, which he's not allowed to enter.

From what I've seen The Presence favors Michael above all...
Right. I'm just saying that he can be going against the Presence's commands and still beat Spectre because he will still be at full power, so long as the Presence doesn't leave creation (if he did they both would be affected, but Michael would still win since God chose him as his second/ Demiurgos Power).

Anyways, this isn't the place to be debating and stuff, so if you wish to continue this you can PM me or Bran or someone else.

Here are some of the scans showing how Elaine creates her own universe from absorbing Michael's power:

http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/8885/picture003vp4.th.jpg

http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/4924/picture004dt7.th.jpg

More on Elaine creating her universe:

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/3176/img001zz8.th.jpg

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/1285/img002dr8.th.jpg

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/8418/img008xu3.th.jpg

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/8041/img005vu2.th.jpg

Anyone have DC Day of Judgement 2? In it it shows Michael directing the heroes to purgatory where a Hal Jordan waits for his chance of redemption. Anyone have the scans, would be nice to see them on here.

is this good ?
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b107/Nik_TehPimpXor/Judge1.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b107/Nik_TehPimpXor/Judge2.jpg

This is kind of interesting...

Frankenstein apparently wields Michael's sword:

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Originally posted by Air Legend
Nope. Here's proof:

http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/5972/scan0043ds2.th.jpg

http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/2408/scan0042xt1.th.jpg

http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/83/scan0039nv1.th.jpg

http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/5572/scan0038ox1.th.jpg

http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/5371/scan0048bx8.th.jpg

http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/2087/scan0045mu4.th.jpg

http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/5868/scan0046ez2.th.jpg

http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/2125/scan0047qx4.th.jpg

There are more instances, but this is more than enough.
There is no need to exaggerate the feat, as creating a universe is quite an accomplishment by itself.

Michael has enough energy within him to fill whatever space is available.

The Presence/God on Michael:
Michael Demiurgos—spark that expands forever—ocean of power with no shore.


Meaningless words from someone who constantly tries to defame me. It was a Multiverse. Nirvana is canon to the storyline.
It's a similar manner that in the Infinity Gauntlet saga, and in The END, they use the word universe, and NEVER multiverse, but people will try to convince you otherwise, except that in this scenario, we actually have on panel varification that doesn't require any stretching of the imagination because it's laid out plain by the writer/creator of the entire series.

Great Thread AL, this is really an enjoyable read.

(pardon this off-topic moment)

Originally posted by Juntai
It was a Multiverse. Nirvana is canon to the storyline.

It's a similar manner that in the Infinity Gauntlet saga, and in The END,
they use the word universe, and NEVER multiverse,
but people will try to convince you otherwise
I have to disagree true debater:

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(from the Infinity Gauntlet series)

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"Thanos declares himself the Supreme Being of This, and All UniverseS" (Marvel Omniverse)

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It's not a stretch either.

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Jim Stalin the Writer/Creator of the IG series claimed Thanos was "God"

Interviewed by Marvel Age.

Marvel Age is a Marvel title specifically designed to get the intricate details
to stories which would otherwise be compressed by time & space.

Jim Starlin himself adds:

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/9950/igmakegod2zt8.th.jpg

"I've done the good side of God and the bad side of God,
I've gone as far as I can with the Infinity Gauntlet"


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(from The End: Marvel)

http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/4411/th10kz1.th.jpg

"I was Everything ... bonded to Omni-Reality" (Marvel Omniverse)



This is why he able to destroy Everything:

http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/373/ltbioan2.th.jpg

"Thanos destroyed ALL that Existed with his power ...

and then Restored Reality"

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Just wanted to clear that up.

Originally posted by Air Legend
Nope. Here's proof:

http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/5972/scan0043ds2.th.jpg

http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/2408/scan0042xt1.th.jpg

http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/83/scan0039nv1.th.jpg

http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/5572/scan0038ox1.th.jpg

http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/5371/scan0048bx8.th.jpg

http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/2087/scan0045mu4.th.jpg

http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/5868/scan0046ez2.th.jpg

http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/2125/scan0047qx4.th.jpg

There are more instances, but this is more than enough.
There is no need to exaggerate the feat, as creating a universe is quite an accomplishment by itself.



Most of those are...sad, to be honest.

None of the back covers of issues or TPBs are canon, so your first four scans are meaningless; solicits and covers are often misleading, much less adverts of that type.

The scan of someone saying "a hole in the universe" is referring specifically to THIS universe, the MAIN universe, not to anything that Lucifer created.

The rest can be easily explained as not being encompassing enough. A multiverse certainly contains a universe, so when Lucifer, or the narration, or some random god or faerie refers to what Lucifer has as a universe, it can easily be explained as simplification, and nothing more.

The only instance we have of Lucifer specifically refuting one with the other is the Nirvana instance, previously provided, where it is made abundantly clear that this is a multiverse, not a universe.

Until you can provide a similar example of someone calling it a multiverse, and then being corrected into calling it a universe...well, you know the drill.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Great Thread AL, this is really an enjoyable read.

(pardon this off-topic moment)


I have to disagree true debater:

...........................................................................


(from the Infinity Gauntlet series)



"Thanos declares himself the Supreme Being of This, and All UniverseS" (Marvel Omniverse)

.................................................................................

It's not a stretch either.

.................................................................................


Jim Stalin the Writer/Creator of the IG series claimed Thanos was "God"

Interviewed by Marvel Age.

Marvel Age is a Marvel title specifically designed to get the intricate details
to stories which would otherwise be compressed by time & space.

Jim Starlin himself adds:


"I've done the good side of God and the bad side of God,
I've gone as far as I can with the Infinity Gauntlet"


...........................................................................



(from The End: Marvel)


"I was Everything ... bonded to Omni-Reality" (Marvel Omniverse)



This is why he able to destroy Everything:



"Thanos destroyed ALL that Existed with his power ...

and then Restored Reality"

...........................................................................

Just wanted to clear that up. Nice working spamming the thread *******

can you try not being a tool sometime cat!!

idiot