King K. Rool
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Neo Darkhalen
Leader of the Kremlins, King K. Rool is the arch nemesis of Donkey kong, first appearing in Donkey Kong Country for the SNES, he has been a constant threat to DK isle and has had many changes in his appearance, though he is royal he seems to have pirate roots, found in the final boss fight of DKC, on the gang plank galleon and then becoming Kaptain K. Rool in Diddy kongs quest, he often wears a crown of which can be used as a bowling bowl esq weapon, and has a blood shot eye, in many games he has show to be with and without a tail, in the beginning K. Rool wore a golden plate around his stomach.
Ridley_Prime
Ah yes. He was the classic in Donkey Kong Country (the 1st one) and Donkey Kong 64 (though, his alter egos in DKC2 and DKC 3 were cool too). Good times...
I hope he makes it in Brawl.
He was also pretty funny in the Donkey Kong TV show they used to have (which was computer animated).
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Neo Darkhalen
I remember that...

Ridley_Prime
Originally posted by Neo Darkhalen
I remember that...
Yep. Good times... although the show was pretty silly, but Diddy acted kinda cute in it. xd
Neo Darkhalen
True, but it was good back in the day.
Ridley_Prime
Originally posted by Neo Darkhalen
True, but it was good back in the day.
Yeah. Sure was, back when they showed it on Fox Family on Sunday mornings...
Neo Darkhalen
You don't get those sort of shows anymore.
Ridley_Prime
Originally posted by Neo Darkhalen
You don't get those sort of shows anymore.
Yeah...
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Probably the most catchy song in the history of Donkey Kong.
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Neo Darkhalen
I wish Rare did another DKC game, shame they belong to Microsoft now.

Ridley_Prime
Originally posted by Neo Darkhalen
I wish Rare did another DKC game, shame they belong to Microsoft now.
Yeah...
Diddy Kong Racing on the DS sure wasn't the same as the N64 version because of that (since there was no Banjo or Conker), but at least Nintendo still owns the rights to Donkey Kong.
Still, the DK series will never be the same again without Rare...
Handing Rare over to Microsoft was really a bad move by Nintendo.
Neo Darkhalen
Well they have lost quite a bit there
DKC
Conker
Banjoo Kazooie
They could have had Viva Pinata as well
Rare have a certain spark to there games, something that adds that extra depth and satisfaction, DK games seem to be more beat and music related, I still say the best DK games are the platform ones, the first two country games and 64, I think that without Rare it losses its spark.
ESB -1138
Banjoo lost his fun...ness after game two. Conker had one game. Not much of a lost. But K. Rool needs to be in Brawl.
Neo Darkhalen
It's not like him or Ridley for that matter could not be implemented into brawl, and since they have many tactics within there villainy they would be fun to use.
Ridley_Prime
Originally posted by Neo Darkhalen
Well they have lost quite a bit there
DKC
Nintendo still has the rights to that. After all, the DKC trilogy was ported to the Game Boy Advance.
Like I said though, it's too bad Donkey Kong 64 wasn't ported to the DS like Super Mario 64 was.
Originally posted by Neo Darkhalen
Rare have a certain spark to there games, something that adds that extra depth and satisfaction
Yep, and don't forget that Rare made other great things like Goldeneye, the Killer Instinct series (which was short lived), Star Fox Adventures, etc.
Originally posted by Neo Darkhalen
DK games seem to be more beat and music related
The DK games nowadays do, with Rare no longer being part of Nintendo and all. That really made the DK series go downhill from that point forward...
Originally posted by Neo Darkhalen
I still say the best DK games are the platform ones, the first two country games
The first three Country games, you mean?
Originally posted by Neo Darkhalen
I think that without Rare it losses its spark.
Indeed

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Originally posted by ESB -1138
Banjoo lost his fun...ness after game two.
Meh. I only played the first Banjo game for the N64 (forgot what it was called exactly), so I wouldn't know.
Originally posted by ESB -1138
But K. Rool needs to be in Brawl.
Indeed.
If he doesn't make it in Brawl though, I won't be completely disappointed since they still added Diddy Kong, but I would still like for K. Rool to be in too. I can see him having something to do with the Subspace Emissary.
Originally posted by Neo Darkhalen
It's not like him or Ridley for that matter could not be implemented into brawl, and since they have many tactics within there villainy they would be fun to use.
Agreed.
Neo Darkhalen
I never liked DKC 3 at all.
Ridley_Prime
Originally posted by Neo Darkhalen
I never liked DKC 3 at all.
Why not?

It was every bit as innovative as the previous 2 DKCs.
Neo Darkhalen
It was alright, just not as good as the other 2, I have it on my emulator so...
Ridley_Prime
Originally posted by Neo Darkhalen
It was alright, just not as good as the other 2
Oh, yeah. That, I can agree with, but I still liked the bears that were in it. Making deals with them and stuff was pretty neat.
Cosmic Cube
Originally posted by ESB -1138
Banjoo lost his fun...ness after game two. Conker had one game. Not much of a lost. But K. Rool needs to be in Brawl. Ness has only been in one game... (asides from Smash Bros and Melee).
After watching that clip, for some reason, I want King K. Rool to be in Brawl. Interesting.
MadMel
he said funess, not ness

and conker has had 2 games

Cosmic Cube
Originally posted by MadMel
he said funess, not ness

and conker has had 2 games

I'm a loser.

Neo Darkhalen
He's good, K. Rool for Brawl.
ESB -1138
Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
The DK games nowadays do, with Rare no longer being part of Nintendo and all. That really made the DK series go downhill from that point forward...
Just wait...if Miyamoto decides to make a new DK game it will be the best one ever.
Neo Darkhalen
It better be a platform game, and it better have the classic villains of the series and K. Rool as the last boss.
Ridley_Prime
Originally posted by ESB -1138
Just wait...if Miyamoto decides to make a new DK game it will be the best one ever.
I wish him the best of luck then, since he won't have Rare to help this time.
Originally posted by Neo Darkhalen
It better be a platform game, and it better have the classic villains of the series and K. Rool as the last boss.
Yeah...
Maybe a Donkey Kong Galaxy? xd
MadMel
first - there is a new dk game..
its a racing one

second - if a DK platformer was being made, it should be like jungle beat..that game was fvcking awesome...drumming really fast to beat the living sh*t outta some giant pig thing = pwnage!
Neo Darkhalen
DKC is better then any beat game, however without rare, things will be tough.
Ridley_Prime
Originally posted by Neo Darkhalen
DKC is better then any beat game, however without rare, things will be tough.
Indeed...
MadMel
i said jungle beat, not donkey konga

Neo Darkhalen
Still can't live up to the DKC series IMO.
Neo Darkhalen
K. Rool is the demented leader of the Kremling Krew, a group of reptilian creatures who live on Donkey Kong Island's neighbor, Crocodile Isle. Over the years since the original Donkey Kong Country, K. Rool has developed a deep hatred against the Kongs. Initially he just wanted Donkey Kong's banana hoard (which has raised the question among many as to why would crocodiles want bananas to begin with), but his failure to obtain it led him to try and hurt the Kongs directly. King K. Rool also has a tendency to be "down but not out" as seen in Donkey Kong Country (falls as if defeated, even fake credits of the game with the names of Kremlings start to roll then gets back up), Donkey Kong Country 2 (falls several times and gets back up), and Donkey Kong 64 (once the fights are over, he suddenly becomes conscious and tries to take down Chunky Kong). Another characteristic worth noting is his tail, which seems to often change size (along with his body size). In the SNES games, along with the N64 game, his tail is rather long, but in other appearances it is either short or he simply does not possess one. He also seems to have an eye for Candy Kong, according to Donkey Kong 64, though this has been thus far unsubstantiated.
Abilities
K. Rool has several vehicles he uses for transport. These include the Gangplank Galleon in Donkey Kong Country, the Flying Kroc airship in Donkey Kong Country 2, the Knautilus in Donkey Kong Country 3, the Crocodile Isle and an unnamed airship in Donkey Kong 64, and the K. Kruizer III and a hovering pod in DK: King of Swing.
During the final boss battle in Donkey Kong Country, K. Rool attacks Donkey and Diddy Kong directly by jumping repeatedly (he can even jump from one side of the stage to another in a single jump) in an attempt to crush them with his weight, charging at them with tremendous strength and speed, (faster than the Kongs themselves) throwing his crown which comes back as a boomerang, and making cannonballs fall from the sky at the Kongs.
In Donkey Kong Country 2, K. Rool, who is now dressed as a pirate, uses a Blunderbuss that can fire cannonballs. He can shoot normal cannonballs, spiked cannonballs, purple clouds that reverse the movements of left and right, blue clouds that temporarily freeze, and red clouds that slow the target's movements. In addition, he has the ability to turn invisible (his location can still be pinpointed by the smoke he makes as he moves). During the fight in The Lost World, his attacks are basically the same, but he only utilizes the spiked cannonballs and purple clouds, which have the same patterns as the cannonballs. A single regular cannonball is fired at the end of the lengthy barrage of attacks, which signals the only chance the Kongs can defeat him.
Taking into consideration his physique, as his body may be composed of more muscle than fat, his attacks and athletic abilities from the first Donkey Kong Country and Donkey Kong 64, he is capable of inflicting considerable damage with physical strength alone. The brute strength that he possesses may rival or perhaps even surpass that of Donkey Kong and Chunky Kong (while not taking into account his appearance from the television series, which the show itself, is not considered canon).
History
While hardly anything is known about K. Rool's past, there have been some certain rumors about the existence of K. Rool's wife. In fact, in Donkey Kong Country 3, after Dixie and Kiddy Kong defeat KAOS, K. Rool mentions that KAOS was constructed by his wife's best pots and pans. However, in the Scribes section of Rare's website, Leigh Loveday revealed that K. Rool's "my wife is going to kill me" line was merely "a typically throwaway Reeves and Mortimer reference".
In Donkey Kong Country (1994), for the SNES, King K. Rool steals Donkey Kong's bananas, but is foiled by Donkey Kong and Diddy Kong. Donkey Kong Land (1995) for the Game Boy has a similar plot where Cranky Kong bets the two heroes they cannot get the bananas back on an 8-bit system. Cranky even calls K. Rool to help with the bet.
In Donkey Kong Country 2 (1995), K. Rool kidnaps Donkey Kong and takes him back to his home of Crocodile Isle. He is foiled by Diddy Kong and Dixie Kong. This time around there is a more pronounced pirate setting, and King K. Rool goes under the name Kaptain K. Rool. This is also similar to the plot of the Game Boy's Donkey Kong Land 2, released in 1996.
In Donkey Kong Country 3 (1996), King K. Rool is going by the name of Baron K. Roolenstein. Working in the shadows, he captures a vacationing Donkey Kong and Diddy Kong in the Northern Kremisphere part of the DK Isles, stuffs them in the cybernetic body of what was believed to be the new Kremling king, KAOS, and uses their brain power to control it behind the scenes. He is foiled by Dixie Kong and Kiddy Kong. Baron K. Roolenstein would appear again in 1997 in Donkey Kong Land III for the Game Boy, where he attempts to be the first to discover the game's Lost World in a contest that also includes Dixie and Kiddy, and Donkey and Diddy (although the two never appeared in the game).
King K. Rool from Donkey Kong 64In Donkey Kong 64 (1999), for the N64, King K. Rool steals Donkey Kong's golden banana hoard as a distraction for the Kongs while he attempts to fix his Blast-O-Matic laser that is going to destroy Donkey Kong Island. Meanwhile, he has his men lock away four Kongs (Diddy Kong, Tiny Kong, Lanky Kong, and Chunky Kong, Donkey Kong was not captured). They are freed one by one and in the final battle where they foil K. Rool's plans once again. King K. Rool dresses as a boxer by the name of King Krusha K. Rool; incidentally, the name Krusha was also used for one of the enemies in Donkey Kong Country and even as the name of the hidden playable character of the game's multiplayer mode.
King K. Rool appears in DK King of Swing. In it, he plots to steal the medals from the upcoming Jungle Jam competition to become the jungle hero. Without the medals, there would be no tournament. Donkey Kong set out to recover the medals and defeat K. Rool.
K. Rool's most recent appearance is in DK Jungle Climber, where he is up to no good again. He first appears on top of Sun Sun Island with five Kremling Advisors, having just recently stolen the several Crystal Bananas belonging to an alien named Xananab. The crystals appear to possess unimaginable power, and with it, K. Rool and his Kremlings plan to use them for conquest. But just as King K. Rool and his Kremlings were making off with the Crystal Bananas, they were spotted by Donkey Kong and friends. DK agrees to help Xananab get the Crystals back, thus starting off the adventure.
K. Rool travels through several islands, being constantly chased by the Kongs. At the end of the last level of each island, K. Rool sends a Kremling Advisor (powered and mutated with a Crystal banana) to fight Donkey Kong as a boss. Each powered Kremling had unique abilities, and used a form of machinery to battle DK, two of which were apparently built by K. Rool himself called the Mega Amps, although the first one was incomplete. After Chill 'n' Char Island, K. Rool and his final Kremling make way to the King Kruizer IV to travel to Xananab's homeplanet. The Kongs are able to enter the ship and defeat the final Advisor. K. Rool then flees with a warp device, and lands on Planet Plataen. When the Kongs catch up to him, he is fought twice, first in his normal state and afterwards uses the final Crystal Banana to mutate and become gigantic. After being beaten, the Kongs eventually head home, and humorously tie K. Rool to the back of the Banana Spaceship.
He also appears in the game Donkey Kong Barrel Blast as a secret playable racer. He is a very overpowered character, possibly due to his unique vehicle.
Neo Darkhalen
King K. Rool in action.
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ESB -1138
Why does everyone think only Rare can make a good DK game? Seriously! Name one bad game that Miyamoto made. Oh wait you can't because none exist. Even if Miyamoto doesn't make the DK game the same team that made Donkey Kong Jungle Beat made Super Mario Galaxy. And Jungle Beat was a fun game...very fun.
Neo Darkhalen
Rare were so good at DKC, the beat games just can't live up to that.
Ridley_Prime
Originally posted by ESB -1138
Why does everyone think only Rare can make a good DK game? Seriously!
No one ever said that. Stop putting words in our mouths/making uninformed assumptions about us.
All we said was that it wouldn't be the same anymore without Rare, and that it'll be tougher (but not impossible) for them to make more good DK games (like before) because of that.
Neo Darkhalen
Because they put in place most of the blocks that make up DK games now and back then.
ESB -1138
Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
All we said was that it wouldn't be the same anymore without Rare, and that it'll be tougher (but not impossible) for them to make more good DK games (like before) because of that.
Well we'll see if Nintendo can pull it off with the next DK game coming out for the Wii.
Neo Darkhalen
I doubt it.

Ridley_Prime
Originally posted by ESB -1138
Well we'll see if Nintendo can pull it off with the next DK game coming out for the Wii.
Yeah...
Let's hope they do.
Originally posted by Neo Darkhalen
I doubt it.
Aww, come on. It's the Wii. Has motion-sensing capabilities. What could go wrong with a DK game on that console? (assuming it isn't a spinoff)
MadMel
it is
its a racing game
i already said that

Neo Darkhalen
MM is correct, someone help DK honestly, Mario Kart Wii, is the driving game for the Wii console, we don't need one of the racers to go off and copy the same thing.
Neo Darkhalen
Abilities
K. Rool has several vehicles he uses for transport. These include the Gangplank Galleon in Donkey Kong Country, the Flying Kroc airship in Donkey Kong Country 2, the Knautilus in Donkey Kong Country 3, the Crocodile Isle and an unnamed airship in Donkey Kong 64, and the K. Kruizer III and a hovering pod in DK: King of Swing.
During the final boss battle in Donkey Kong Country, K. Rool attacks Donkey and Diddy Kong directly by jumping repeatedly (he can even jump from one side of the stage to another in a single jump) in an attempt to crush them with his weight, charging at them with tremendous strength and speed, (faster than the Kongs themselves) throwing his crown which comes back as a boomerang, and making cannonballs fall from the sky at the Kongs.
In Donkey Kong Country 2, K. Rool, who is now dressed as a pirate, uses a Blunderbuss that can fire cannonballs. He can shoot normal cannonballs, spiked cannonballs, purple clouds that reverse the movements of left and right, blue clouds that temporarily freeze, and red clouds that slow the target's movements. In addition, he has the ability to turn invisible (his location can still be pinpointed by the smoke he makes as he moves). During the fight in The Lost World, his attacks are basically the same, but he only utilizes the spiked cannonballs and purple clouds, which have the same patterns as the cannonballs. A single regular cannonball is fired at the end of the lengthy barrage of attacks, which signals the only chance the Kongs can defeat him.
Taking into consideration his physique, as his body may be composed of more muscle than fat, his attacks and athletic abilities from the first Donkey Kong Country and Donkey Kong 64, he is capable of inflicting considerable damage with physical strength alone. The brute strength that he possesses may rival or perhaps even surpass that of Donkey Kong and Chunky Kong (while not taking into account his appearance from the television series, which the show itself, is not considered canon).
MadMel
i doubt he's too much stronger than DK..
DK can throw around people 5 times his size (literally) without much effort

but yea great list

Neo Darkhalen
Nope he is stronger then DK, then again he is twice the size.
MadMel
yea true
wait, when did k.rool throw people 5 times his size around

Neo Darkhalen
When did DK?
Neo Darkhalen
K. Rool is bigger and stronger.
MadMel
bigger definately..
stronger, we dont know, weve never seen k.rool pull off the strength feats DK has shown..
and DK was throwing around the last boss of jungle beat (who was 5 times larger than DK), ghastly king with hardly any effort..DK then proceeded to pummel ghastly king at the speed of 5-10 punches a second..and repeat..
the vid is in the DK respect thread

Neo Darkhalen
The Ghastly king is not at K. Rools level, don't forget what K. Rool can do, I mean he can make cannon balls fall from the sky amoung others.
ESB -1138
Originally posted by Neo Darkhalen
The Ghastly king is not at K. Rools level, don't forget what K. Rool can do, I mean he can make cannon balls fall from the sky amoung others.
.....while he's on a pirate ship.
MadMel
my point still remains..DK is physically stronger

Neo Darkhalen
Originally posted by ESB -1138
.....while he's on a pirate ship.
He can do other things when he is not on his ship.
MadMel
Originally posted by MadMel
my point still remains..DK is physically stronger

Ridley_Prime
Originally posted by Neo Darkhalen
He can do other things when he is not on his ship.
True, and it was never stated anywhere that K. Rool needed to be on a pirate ship or anything to make cannonballs fall from the sky.
But yeah. I agree with Madmel that DK's still physically stronger.
MadMel
dk's thunderclap could bring the cannonballs down

Neo Darkhalen
He may not need his ship, but I admit DK is stronger, btw I saw an advert for the new DK racing game.
MadMel
it doesnt look that good
to me it looks unfinished
i wish they bring out another jungle beat syle game, with multilayer

Neo Darkhalen
Another DKC game would be nice, but now that rare are gone I doubt it will happen.
Neo Darkhalen
Will K. Rool be in this DK racing game?
MadMel
as an unlockable, probably..
Ridley_Prime
Or, he could just end up a boss like Wizpig. Who knows?
I'd personally prefer K. Rool to be unlockable though.
Neo Darkhalen
Originally posted by MadMel
as an unlockable, probably..
I hope so.
Neo Darkhalen
I just hope he makes the brawl.
MadMel
not sure
i think there might be too many heavyweights, but since there are gonna be about 40 characters he could get in..
Neo Darkhalen
I hope he, Gannondorf, Ridley and the last 3rd party member being Megaman join the brawl.
Neo Darkhalen
From Wiki
King K. Rool also appears as an unlockable trophy in Super Smash Bros. Melee. He is described as The demented king of the Kremlings. He also has a high chances of being included as a playable character in the next installment, Super Smash Bros. Brawl.
All I wanted to hear.
Neo Darkhalen
I think there is a good chance for K. Rool in Brawl.
SHM
Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
Ah yes. He was the classic in Donkey Kong Country (the 1st one) and Donkey Kong 64 (though, his alter egos in DKC2 and DKC 3 were cool too). Good times...
It was K. Rool in DKC3? I thought it was another guy. He was a crocodile too, but his eye was normal, he had hair, and his name was a little different.
I thought it was someone from K.Rool's family.
Ridley_Prime
Originally posted by SHM
It was K. Rool in DKC3?
I assumed so. Hence the name Baron K. Roolenstein.
Originally posted by SHM
I thought it was another guy. He was a crocodile too, but his eye was normal, he had hair
Meh. Somehow, I never noticed those differences before... so I guess you could be right about him not being the same guy.
I'm not sure what to think about that now really.
Neo Darkhalen
Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
I assumed so. Hence the name Baron K. Roolenstein.
Meh. Somehow, I never noticed those differences before... so I guess you could be right about him not being the same guy.
I'm not sure what to think about that now really.
Nope it is him, K. Rool.
And now that the "fake" roster has shown a development all I can do is

Ridley_Prime
Originally posted by Neo Darkhalen
Nope it is him, K. Rool.
And you know that for sure, how?
Originally posted by Neo Darkhalen
And now that the "fake" roster has shown a development all I can do is
Meh. Don't go celebrating over that yet. Just because a roster appears in a trailer for a couple seconds doesn't mean it's real. It could've just been added for a sense of completion or something...
Besides, a few of the character-select images in that roster appear to just be drawings, rather than 3-D renders.

Neo Darkhalen
So true, it is fake, my hope has been dashed; King K. rool has been in every game, perhaps he was wearing a wig, I am sure it is him.
Ridley_Prime
Originally posted by Neo Darkhalen
King K. rool has been in every game, perhaps he was wearing a wig, I am sure it is him.
A wig? Hmm. Perhaps...
Neo Darkhalen
And he does have a blood shot eye in that game to.
Ridley_Prime
Originally posted by Neo Darkhalen
And he does have a blood shot eye in that game to.
He does? I didn't notice that...
I liked that "Kaos" machine that he made in that game though.

Neo Darkhalen
I am sure he does; yeah Kaos was good, should have been rebuilt; been in another game IMO.
Ridley_Prime
Originally posted by Neo Darkhalen
yeah Kaos was good, should have been rebuilt; been in another game IMO.
Meh. I guess.
Could've been interesting to see in a 3-D game.
Neo Darkhalen
I would like a DS platform game, or a remake of the first for DS with more levels, mini games ect.
Neo Darkhalen
Well the dream for K. rool in brawl seems to be over.

Neo Darkhalen
Apparently the roster has been filled, does not mean he can't be a boss; who knows perhaps he may be in it, we shall just have to wait.
ESB -1138
Originally posted by Neo Darkhalen
Apparently the roster has been filled, does not mean he can't be a boss; who knows perhaps he may be in it, we shall just have to wait.
Who says the roster has been filled?
Ridley_Prime
Originally posted by Neo Darkhalen
Well the dream for K. rool in brawl seems to be over.
Yeah =(...
Be thankful though that the DK series got a newly additional character to play as at all (Diddy). Metroid got none.
Originally posted by Neo Darkhalen
does not mean he can't be a boss
True...
Originally posted by ESB -1138
Who says the roster has been filled?
The game was leaked in its entirety last night. The full roster is only 35 characters. K. Rool isn't part of it.
Neo Darkhalen
So much for the bench mark of 40 to 50.
Neo Darkhalen
Perhaps next time.
ESB -1138
Hopefully that won't take another 6 or so years.
Neo Darkhalen
Hopefully not.
ESB -1138
Oh well. Sonic is in it and that's all that matters to me.
Neo Darkhalen
Fair point, but K. Rool could have had alot of potential.
Ridley_Prime
Originally posted by Neo Darkhalen
So much for the bench mark of 40 to 50.
Sakurai was bluffing about that the whole time.
Originally posted by ESB -1138
Hopefully that won't take another 6 or so years.
Hopefully?

Neo Darkhalen
Dang and here is hoping.
Ridley_Prime
Well, I'm still not sure about K. Rool's whereabouts in Brawl, but at least he got a remix of his own theme song like Ridley did. Check it out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8KkQTe5zZ8
If there's one thing Sakurai had godly taste on when directing Brawl, it was the music.
Neo Darkhalen
Gang Plank Galleon remix, very nice, thanks for finding that my friend.
Ridley_Prime
Originally posted by Neo Darkhalen
Gang Plank Galleon remix, very nice, thanks for finding that my friend.
You're welcome.
Maybe K. Rool will appear as a boss after all.

Neo Darkhalen
Maybe....maybe.
Neo Darkhalen
Maybe an AT of him...I hope
Ridley_Prime
Originally posted by Neo Darkhalen
Maybe an AT of him...I hope
That would be rather degrading for someone like K. Rool.
Neo Darkhalen
It would be degrading to have Ridley just as a boss but as you can see...
I agree but at the end of the day at least he will be there in one form or another.
Ridley_Prime
Originally posted by Neo Darkhalen
It would be degrading to have Ridley just as a boss but as you can see...
Ridley being a boss isn't as degrading as him being an assist trophy, though. It would just make Ridley look like a Pokemon knockoff or some mindless pet, especially if it were a Samus user that summoned an AT and happened to get Ridley.
Likewise, it would look just as ridiculous if a Donkey or Diddy Kong user summoned an AT and happened to get K. Rool to assist.
Neo Darkhalen
So true, i was hoping for a boss fight like Ridley, why do two classic villains, one of which being a legendary veteran have to loose out on such great potential, instead we get clones and more clones.
Neo Darkhalen
WTH!!!
If this is true, if SSBB is the last smash game then WTH is it with them and K. Rool, every other major Nintendo hero and villain are in there; it's not like they did not have room for him, Ridley, Mewtwo or Dr. Mario, this is just pathetic, brush a good villain with potential out of the way, well done.
Neo Darkhalen
Well perhaps he may get a trophy.
Ridley_Prime
Originally posted by Neo Darkhalen
WTH!!!
If this is true, if SSBB is the last smash game then WTH is it with them and K. Rool, every other major Nintendo hero and villain are in there; it's not like they did not have room for him, Ridley, Mewtwo or Dr. Mario
Yeah >.>...
Original moveset, and Mewtwo gets kicked out of Brawl. Potential to get fortified and Mewtwo gets kicked. A whole new game and Mewtwo gets kicked. And for what?
Meh. I'm tired of "speed" being the excuse as to why characters either suck or don't make a return in the sequels that get made. It's like people only want speed overall.
I mean, come on. Bowser was the slowest character in Melee, and still gets praise in Smash Bros. because he's a Mario villain. What's up with that? There was no reason to exclude Mewtwo (or K. Rool for that matter) in SSBB's playable roster.
It seems Smash Bros. is no longer a series where people can play their favorites. Rather, it's a battle of tier lists with speed being the determining factor of favoritism (hence why most people in Melee were either Fox or Shiek users).
Originally posted by Neo Darkhalen
this is just pathetic, brush a good villain with potential out of the way, well done.
Yeah...
They add certain bad guys like King Dedede and Wolf (who, like Ridley, aren't the final boss in most/all of the games they're in), yet they exclude Ridley, K. Rool, and other just-as-important villains.
Perfect rationale right there.
s/c
Originally posted by Neo Darkhalen
Well perhaps he may get a trophy.
Well, due to them adding the Gang Plank Galleon remix, I don't see why they wouldn't have K. Rool as a trophy, especially since he already was one in Melee.
Neo Darkhalen
It seems that the roster goes on flavour of the month.
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