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Father and son match.


Magneto and Quicksilver


vs.


Cyclops and Cable (god like)


who wins

upppp.

Probably T1.

Team 2 depending on how long Cable can maintain his Jesus Cable levels.

Maggie solos?

Originally posted by jadervason
Maggie solos?

No

Originally posted by Mindset
Team 2 depending on how long Cable can maintain his Jesus Cable levels. Assuming he doesn't almost burn himself out before the fight, and isn't holding up an island...

He's not going to burn himself out.

Could Cyke even hit QS?

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Assuming he doesn't almost burn himself out before the fight, and isn't holding up an island...

He's not going to burn himself out.

Depends on how long the fight with Magneto takes and how much energy he has to expend.

Fighting Magneto > holding up an island and doing the things he did before fighting SS

Originally posted by Mindset
Depends on how long the fight with Magneto takes and how much energy he has to expend.

Fighting Magneto > holding up an island and doing the things he did before fighting SS Did you see what he did before his fight with Surfer?

He put together Providence, held it in midair. Detonated 247 missiles, and threw the energy into the atmosphere. Etc.
Held up Providence, and fought Surfer while simultaneously helping repair all the damage they caused to the island.

If he starts fresh, there is absolutely no chance that he burns himself out.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Did you see what he did before his fight with Surfer?

He put together Providence, held it in midair. Detonated 247 missiles, and threw the energy into the atmosphere. Etc.
Held up Providence, and fought Surfer while simultaneously helping repair all the damage they caused to the island.

If he starts fresh, there is absolutely no chance that he burns himself out.
Yes I saw what he did, and fighting Magneto would take more energy since he is doing it over a short amount of time instead of those feats which were spread out.

Cable... he's not going to burn out.

Cable.

Originally posted by Mindset
Yes I saw what he did, and fighting Magneto would take more energy since he is doing it over a short amount of time instead of those feats which were spread out. It would take more energy? What?

He basically did the feats in a row. He never had time to recover really. Plus, even if he was fresh in the Surfer fight. He was fighting a Surfer who didn't give a shit. He was worried about repairing damage to a massive area. And, he was holding up well... basically an island at the time.
Really, are you going to compare that to fighting without a hinderance to Magneto?

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
It would take more energy? What?

He basically did the feats in a row. He never had time to recover really. Plus, even if he was fresh in the Surfer fight. He was fighting a Surfer who didn't give a shit. He was worried about repairing damage to a massive area. And, he was holding up well... basically an island at the time.
Really, are you going to compare that to fighting without a hinderance to Magneto?

SS wasn't really fighting Cable until he oneshotted him, all they were doing is flying around and causing damage.

And yes, Cable did have down time between some of those feats. Fighting Magneto would use more energy in a short amount of time which would cause him to burn out faster than he showed in C&D.

Who did Cable have an actual fight with doing his time as "Jesus" Cable that was on par with Magneto?

Originally posted by Mindset
SS wasn't really fighting Cable until he oneshotted him, all they were doing is flying around and causing damage.

And yes, Cable did have down time between some of those feats. Fighting Magneto would use more energy in a short amount of time which would cause him to burn out faster than he showed in C&D.

Who did Cable have an actual fight with doing his time as "Jesus" Cable that was on par with Magneto? Spitting out power... means what? He was hitting him with energy the whole time he was charging with him.

Ya, and it all accumulated in the end. At the start, Cable knew he would burn out. And some of his feats he had less than an issue to deal with. Cable was helping repair all the damage him and Surfer cost during the whole time Surfer took him halfway across the world. Cable will not be repairing damage. Cable will not be holding up something that God only knows how many millions (billions more than likely actually) of tons it weighs. Cable will not be fighting something as powerful as the Surfer. Rachel with the Phoenix had extreme trying to hold up Providence. Cable had to help her.
Can you understand?

Not Surfer, evidently.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Spitting out power... means what? He was hitting him with energy the whole time he was charging with him.

Ya, and it all accumulated in the end. At the start, Cable knew he would burn out. And some of his feats he had less than an issue to deal with. Cable was helping repair all the damage him and Surfer cost during the whole time Surfer took him halfway across the world. Cable will not be repairing damage. Cable will not be holding up something that God only knows how many millions (billions more than likely actually) of tons it weighs. Cable will not be fighting something as powerful as the Surfer. Rachel with the Phoenix had extreme trying to hold up Providence. Cable had to help her.
Can you understand?

Not Surfer, evidently.

Spitting out power means they are actually attacking each other? Then why when SS finally actually blasted Cable with energy in one shot he almost killed him?

I understand that Rachel had a low showing, or at the time she did not have the full Phoenix Force.

Now again, who did Cable fight for an extended period who was on Magneto's level?

team two

Originally posted by Endrict Nuul
Could Cyke even hit QS?

He has done it before. Cyclops is able to tag speedsters with a shot.

Originally posted by jadervason
Maggie solos?

If this wasn't Jesus Cable then I would probably agree but the fact that it is pretty much tips the scales in their favor. Magneto will have a hard time with this one.

Originally posted by Mindset
Spitting out power means they are actually attacking each other? Then why when SS finally actually blasted Cable with energy in one shot he almost killed him?

I understand that Rachel had a low showing, or at the time she did not have the full Phoenix Force.

Now again, who did Cable fight for an extended period who was on Magneto's level?

I think Cable just took the shot because before that he just lost his offensive edge and will. He just said "I've ran out of time" Which leads you to assume that he was burned out. I'm not an expert on this situation so feel free to disagree because I won't say you're wrong.

Cable raw power goes so much beyond any in this thread.
Cable goes all out, team 1 dies quickly.

team two

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Originally posted by Zeitgeist
Cable... he's not going to burn out.
I agree.

Team 1.
Moreover, Quicksilver solos.
He trashes Cable like he trashed Exodus back in the day. And if the CIS is off, he finds himself a sword and chops their heads off. Before they form a coherent thought.

Cable/Magneto battle goes one way. Man, half-made of metal loses to the Master of Magnetism. Magneto can just reactivate TO virus and cripple Cable's TK/TP. Then take him apart.

Originally posted by Survivor19
Team 1.
Moreover, Quicksilver solos.
He trashes Cable like he trashed Exodus back in the day. And if the CIS is off, he finds himself a sword and chops their heads off. Before they form a coherent thought.

Cable/Magneto battle goes one way. Man, half-made of metal loses to the Master of Magnetism. Magneto can just reactivate TO virus and cripple Cable's TK/TP. Then take him apart. Exodus had QS completely helpless in Bloodties, when did QS trash Exodus?


No, Mags can not reactive the TO virus.

Pietro utterly trashed Bennet in 'Siege on Wundagore' storyline (his own series/Heroes for hire crossover). He was too fast for Bennet to get a TP/TK fix for him, and when Exodus did omnidirectional blast... well, Pietro just run 3 miles away. And then returned and KOd him.


Please elaborate on why do you think that.

Originally posted by Mindset
Exodus had QS completely helpless in Bloodties, when did QS trash Exodus?

It was in the Quicksilver Series #12 I think?? Anyway Exodus was telepathically fighting/beating the Eternal Thena while fighting an Isoptope E boosted Pietro there.

Forgot about the Isotope E amp.
Ok, doesn't counts.

Tough to pick still. Bump..