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Battle to be fought on Apokolips. To the death.

who?

Vangaard

http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/9496/fantasticforceno011p22er4.th.jpg

FTW

Spite

so a guy the human torch beat vs darkseid.....

Originally posted by Gecko4lif
so a guy the human torch beat vs darkseid.....
dontgetit

Torch would be lucky just to get noticed by Vangaard.

Originally posted by Mr Master
dontgetit

Torch would be lucky just to get noticed by Vangaard. Torch is a mini sun Vangaard would have to be blind to not see him.

Originally posted by iceman24567

Torch is a mini sun Vangaard would have to be blind to not see him.
I was using sarcasm,
to illustrate perspective between Vangaard's level of power, and Torch's in comparison.

Vangaard's purpose is to erase entire UniverseS with a stroke of his hand,
he's already erase 1,000,000 Timelines.

Funny thing is, Vangaard is an uber alternate of Johnny himself.

Originally posted by Mr Master
I was using sarcasm,
to illustrate perspective between Vangaard's level of power, and Torch's in comparison.

Vangaard's purpose is to erase entire UniverseS with a stroke of his hand,
he's already erase 1,000,000 Timelines. So was i

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Spite


It's been said that DS beats multiverse killing characters in his sleep...

Originally posted by Mr Master
I was using sarcasm,
to illustrate perspective between Vangaard's level of power, and Torch's in comparison.

Vangaard's purpose is to erase entire UniverseS with a stroke of his hand,
he's already erase 1,000,000 Timelines.

Funny thing is, Vangaard is an uber alternate of Johnny himself.
If he is so badass why is he dead?

The Bad guy have a awful idea of dying ore losing in a comic duo to PIS and CIS

Originally posted by Gecko4lif

If he is so badass why is he dead?
Really? ... What issue did this happen in?

Cause as far as I know,
Vangaard is alive and well the same way he flew off,
at the end of "Moments of Truth" arc.

I've seen DS erase Universes/timelines as well -- not saying he wins, but this isn't spite.

imo.

Holy smokes! Stark is banned (temp though ).

Darkseid erased a universe ?

Originally posted by Mr Master
Really? ... What issue did this happen in?

Cause as far as I know,
Vangaard is alive and well the same way he flew off,
at the end of "Moments of Truth" arc.
Give us a quick bio and overview of this Vaangaurd

Originally posted by Gecko4lif

Give us a quick bio and overview of this Vaangaurd
I thought you said he was dead? ...
you should know more than I do cause I never heard of that.


But here's what I know about Vangaard (the one that's still alive at least)

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Vangaard's job (as in his purpose to exist)
is to erase entire UniverseS he deems redundant,
across the entire Marvel Omniverse:

http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/3183/v1cu6.th.jpg

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Huntara with her Psionic Scythe can peer into other Timelines,
she confirmed Vangaard's purpose,
and saw 4 UniverseS he had just erased back to back prior to entering their Timeline:

http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/8882/v2we7.th.jpg

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Vangaard has already erase 1,000,000 entire Universes (Timelines)

http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/8140/v5gs1.th.jpg

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The Bio corroborates this fact.

Concerning the 4 Timelines (back to back), and the 1,000,000 UniverseS:

http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/6673/v2vv4.th.jpg
(excerpt from the official 2005 Marvel Handbook - Earth A - bio)


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Psi-Lord attacked Vangaard by imploding the Universe around him:

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Psi-Lord explodes an entire Universe in Vangaard's face:

http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/6461/v6ec6eb5.th.jpg

"Brace yourselves for the Big Bang"

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http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/1415/v7bu1tm0.th.jpg

"Space/Time itself has been torn asunder"

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Even Psi-Lord wouldn't have survived,
he had to escape into a Sub-pocket of Space withIN his armor:

http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/7582/psi2wb8gi0.th.jpg

"An inspired stratagem Psi-Lord,
taking refuge from the implosion withIN your personal Sub-Space Pocket"

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Huntara confirms that the Anti-matter implosion is of a staggering magnitude,
and only the gravest of circumstances,
could cause Psi-Lord to initiate such destruction:

http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/3091/v3he1.th.jpg


As you can see ... Vangaard is unfazed!

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More proof that it was indeed an entire Universe Psi-lord imploded:

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A few issues later,
Diablo is trying to mind control Psi-lord and She Hulk with stipulations,
he recalls Psi-lord's power during the arc vs Vangaard,
where Diablo was in disguise:

http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/4338/psi2ji4.th.jpg

"The conquest of Franklin Richards has been achieved,
limitless UNIVERSE SHATTERING Psionic powers lay now at the whim,
of Diablo"

Originally posted by 123KID
Darkseid erased a universe ? Yep.

Originally posted by Galan007
Yep. Was dat when he was removed from time?

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Was dat when he was removed from time? During Foundations.

Originally posted by Galan007
During Foundations. I know.

It's not exactly relevant though... don't you think?

id' like scans of DS universe busting

Doesn't Superman take on Darkseid all the time?

Is it in Darkseid's normal powerset to not only nullify entire UniverseS,
but resist Universal implosions without a scratch like it is for Vangaard?
Or were there stipulations when he destroyed a Universe?

I'd like some info cause I know nothing about Darkseid.

Darkseid destroyed a universe or so after he was removed from the timeline.

Apparently if you remove a being from the timeline as powerful as Darkseid, it destroys everything. It's not within his power set to accomplish this... and there's no way he's doing that in a thread (self BFR as well).

Unless there was another time...

srug

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Darkseid destroyed a universe or so after he was removed from the timeline.

Apparently if you remove a being from the timeline as powerful as Darkseid, it destroys everything. It's not within his power set to accomplish this... and there's no way he's doing that in a thread (self BFR as well).

Unless there was another time...
Oh yea, I remember that, I actually have those scans.

He didn't destroy jack,
it was the the removal of his presence within that Timeline that collapsed that Reality.

That's more of an inadvertant act.

Sorta like when Captain America was removed from Reality 311,
that Timeline was immediately destroyed because of his removal,
but then the High Tribunal Watcher re-created that Timeline
and gave it to Uatu as a gift.

Even if the Timeline Vangaard is in collapses after stomping Darkseid,
nothing will happen to Vangaard,
Vangaard evidently can withstand Universal implosions unscathed.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
I know.

It's not exactly relevant though... don't you think? Shhh.

Vangaard ftw.

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stoned

DS absorbs Vangaard of his power and stomps him.

Vangaard FTW

Originally posted by The Great Galen
DS absorbs Vangaard of his power and stomps him. Originally posted by guy222


Vangaard FTW

bumprav

Current DS w/ALE wins.