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Begin Drafting. Please provide a bio, and state how much it costs.

Flash - 6

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flash_%28comics%29#Wally_West

Sonia Sato - 2

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judomaster

Dr. Strange - 6

http://marvel.com/universe/Doctor_Strange_%28Stephen_Strange%29

Mogo

6 points

normal juggernaut, 5 points http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juggernaut_%28comics%29
skullcap on

Silver Surfer 6 pts

http://www.marvel.com/universe/Silver_Surfer

Also, if mod reads this, could you please sticky it to the top of the page. Thanks.

Firestorm (Ronnie Raymond/ Martin Stein combo) 6
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firestorm_%28comics%29#Ronald_Raymond_.2F_Martin_Stein

Originally posted by SmurphSmash!
Mogo

6 points

lol, I would like to see where you are going with this.

List of those who have and have not drafted.

Particpants:
1. King Kandy -drafted
2. Devil Lance -drafted
3. Papa Smurph -drafted
4. Darthgoober -drafted
5. Symmetric Chaos - drafted
6. Capt Spaulding - awaiting
7. SmurphSmash! -drafted
8. Tony Stark - will draft after suspension lifts
9. Mr.Biscuits - awaiting
10. Psycho Gundam -drafted
11. Evangel94 - Casual matches only
12. <Reserved> - (awaiting confirmation) - will be dropped by end of first draft if person does not draft
13. <Reserved> - (awaiting confirmation) - will be dropped by end of first draft if person does not draft

Also, to anyone who still wants to join. You can still join up until the end of this 1st draft. This draft will last until the 2nd draft is posted.

The variation in power makes for a hilarious draft.

to everyone so far....well, kinda. I guess it's all about the strategy, not the drafts so much.

Shaman X-Man 6 points

Originally posted by id369
Shaman X-Man 6 points

Welcome to the Tournament.


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UPDATED list of those who have and have not drafted.

Particpants:
1. King Kandy -drafted
2. Devil Lance -drafted
3. Papa Smurph -drafted
4. Darthgoober -drafted
5. Symmetric Chaos - drafted
6. Capt Spaulding - awaiting
7. SmurphSmash! -drafted
8. Tony Stark - will draft after suspension lifts
9. Mr.Biscuits - awaiting
10. Psycho Gundam -drafted
11. id369 - drafted
12. Evangel94 - Casual matches only
13. <Reserved> - (awaiting confirmation) - will be dropped by end of first draft if person does not draft
14. <Reserved> - (awaiting confirmation) - will be dropped by end of first draft if person does not draft

6 points - Shaman X-Man
Oh I forgot to add a bio

Official Hand Book of the Marvel Universe (2004)
Book of the Dead.
http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/8991/46lx9.th.jpg
http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/8991/46lx9.jpg


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X-Man
http://www.marvel.com/universe/X-Man

Nate Grey only weighs 135 lbs?

lol what a chump.

Metron, of the new gods. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metron_(comics) 10pts.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Metron, of the new gods. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metron_(comics) 10pts.

I am sorry Tricksterpriest, but for the upper categories of 10 and 20 points you must choose among only those listed.

edit never mind

I made a legit pick. And I say you are being unreasonable by locking other characters. I picked someone outside your little clique of higher power.

I don't see anyone else having a problem Trick. Wasn't there time before this to issue complaints and check the availability of potential draft choices?

Originally posted by DigiMark007
I don't see anyone else having a problem Trick. Wasn't there time before this to issue complaints and check the availability of potential draft choices? Appearently all 20 point characters are off limits now. That includes anything that would boost the character up to 20 points. Talk about lame.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Appearently all 20 point characters are off limits now. That includes anything that would boost the character up to 20 points. Talk about lame.

You can pick a 20 point character that is on the list, but additional 10 or 20 point characters cannot be added. There was a period before this draft where people were free to suggest additional 10 and 20 point characters to be added to list. But the list is now closed off to anyone who wants to suggest anymore characters for 10 and 20 point characters.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
I made a legit pick. And I say you are being unreasonable by locking other characters. I picked someone outside your little clique of higher power.

Which the rules say you can't so. 10 and 20 point characters have been locked since day one.

Sym, would you say Metron is a 6 pointer or a 10?

Originally posted by Evangel94
You can pick a 20 point character that is on the list, but additional 10 or 20 point characters cannot be added. There was a period before this draft where people were free to suggest additional 10 and 20 point characters to be added to list. But the list is now closed off to anyone who wants to suggest anymore characters for 10 and 20 point characters. WEll I've been busy with School and work I couldn't find time to participate before now...

The character itself is only 1 point. Its the extra power that makes them +19=20

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Sym, would you say Metron is a 6 pointer or a 10?

Considering this is a slugfest and the only direct combat feat I know of for him is getting KOd by Batman . . .

So I draft Metron for 6 then. End of problem.

Yeah but he doesn't come with tech.

Standard equip.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Standard equip.

Which he can't use except to like fly n' stuff . . .

I have a plan. and the chair is standard too.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Considering this is a slugfest and the only direct combat feat I know of for him is getting KOd by Batman . . . He willed himself human in that instance...

Sorry about the spam, good luck everyone!

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Standard equip.
Just trying to make sure you don't claim you could use the Worlogog.

I'm not going to claim the gog as standard equip.

Yeah. But it seems like something you might try.

Well just look at the 10 character category and look at those listed there.



Does Metron fit there?

In my opinion, yes. Actually he may be closer to 20 points.

I bet Trickster has given him the win over all kind of people.

Then if King Kandy objects, then Trickster either has to convincingly defend his choice for being 6 points, or he has to re-choose.

You have no feats that put Metron over the likes of Surfer, etc. Metron's greatest asset is his brain. He's a new god yes, but give one thing that makes him into 10 points.

the one thing that might, the Worlogog, is not in his possession.

Originally posted by Evangel94
Then if King Kandy objects, then Trickster either has to convincingly defend his choice for being 6 points, or he has to re-choose. What King Kandy Doesn't have to prove his case?

But the case against Mogo has to be proven?

Bit biased much are we?

Originally posted by Evangel94
Well just look at the 10 character category and look at those listed there.



Does Metron fit there?

In a physical confrontation (which is what the base cost is correct? so not counting the Chair abilities which he would have to buy) he's never been shown to reach even close to that level actually.

Chair is standard equip. But it's not him. Metron himself isn't that high up. Hell, you might as well count Surfer's powercosmic as separate, or his board, or the witchblade as separate from Sara Pezzini.

Originally posted by Creshosk
What King Kandy Doesn't have to prove his case?

But the case against Mogo has to be proven?

Bit biased much are we?

Please refrain from any personal comments or insults. Mogo's case has not been proven. The same situation here currently applies to Mogo as well.

If King Kandy objects, and convincingly proves his case on why either Metron or Mogo doesn't fit into the 6 point category, then they will be removed. It's also on Smurph or Trickster to also defend their choice since it is question. . I am willing to listen to both sides.

The idea here is to get peer-review going on so everyone doesn't have to rely on me. However, I have final say in the matter.

-Evangel94

If Metron doesn't get the Worlogog (which no one in their right mind would give him) then he also shouldn't get the Mobius chair.

If he doesn't get either, I have no problem with him.

Originally posted by King Kandy
If Metron doesn't get the Worlogog (which no one in their right mind would give him) then he also shouldn't get the Mobius chair.

If he doesn't get either, I have no problem with him.

If Batman doesn't get a mother box, a boom tube, a kryptonian DNA manipulator, and his army of JLA-Robots, he shouldn't get his utility belt....

Originally posted by Soljer
If Batman doesn't get a mother box, a boom tube, a kryptonian DNA manipulator, and his army of JLA-Robots, he shouldn't get his utility belt.... That's what I was thinking.

Kinda slippery slope logic isn't it?

Back by popular demand... *applaud**applaud* Thank you...Thank you... Although my absence has caused me to go with a plan "B", It will matter not... My superior gene pool and intellect will pull me through.

Dr.Doom is my first choice (616)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_Doom
http://www.marvel.com/universe/Doctor_Doom_(Victor_von_Doom)
http://en.marveldatabase.com/Doctor_Doom_(Victor_von_Doom)


4 Points

Empath

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empath_%28comics%29
http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/e/empath.htm
http://www.comicvine.com/empath/2173/

2 points

unpinning...

The Doctor (6)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_(Wildstorm)#Habib_Ben_Hassan

Originally posted by DigiMark007
The Doctor (6)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_(Wildstorm)#Habib_Ben_Hassan

F- for just six?

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
F- for just six?

Same as Strange, and the onus would be on anyone else to show why the Doctor is > Strange. They're roughly equal in most respects, so it would be awfully biased to have one at 6 but not the other.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
Same as Strange.

Oh right

I was just thinking about the people in the thread. Forgot you'll have to buy all the cool powers.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
F- for just six?
That's what I was thinking. Isn't the Doctor a little uber for the 6 pt category? I don't really follow the Authority, but from what I've heard he's supposed to be a powerful reality manipulator or something like that...

Originally posted by darthgoober
That's what I was thinking. Isn't the Doctor a little uber for the 6 pt category? I don't really follow the Authority, but from what I've heard he's supposed to be a powerful reality manipulator or something like that...

Originally posted by DigiMark007
Same as Strange, and the onus would be on anyone else to show why the Doctor is > Strange. They're roughly equal in most respects, so it would be awfully biased to have one at 6 but not the other.

He is powerful, and we have him (rightly) in the Transcendent category in the tiers thread. I wouldn't pick him without good reason, but more than a few powers are neutered due to the purchase system, the big ones are very expensive, and Strange is his equal in most respects (probably better than him with proper prep) and is only 6 as well.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
He is powerful, and we have him (rightly) in the Transcendent category in the tiers thread. I wouldn't pick him without good reason, but more than a few powers are neutered due to the purchase system, the big ones are very expensive, and Strange is his equal in most respects (probably better than him with proper prep) and is only 6 as well.
I get most of that and can see why he could be eligible but let me ask you this, are you talking about "classic" Strange or "current" Strange? I know they're the same character and all, but "current" Strange(which is the version that's been drafted) has been acknowledged On Panel as being weaker than he previously was which means his more Uber self wasn't the one that was drafted for 6 pts.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
Same as Strange, and the onus would be on anyone else to show why the Doctor is > Strange. They're roughly equal in most respects, so it would be awfully biased to have one at 6 but not the other.

When's Strange accidentally created a universe?

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Originally posted by darthgoober
That's what I was thinking. Isn't the Doctor a little uber for the 6 pt category? I don't really follow the Authority, but from what I've heard he's supposed to be a powerful reality manipulator or something like that...

If he goes for more than 6 there aren't enough point to buy reality manip. Even if he did by reality manip then it would just be the Doctor and nothing else.

Originally posted by darthgoober
I get most of that and can see why he could be eligible but let me ask you this, are you talking about "classic" Strange or "current" Strange? I know they're the same character and all, but "current" Strange(which is the version that's been drafted) has been acknowledged On Panel as being weaker than he previously was which means his more Uber self wasn't the one that was drafted for 6 pts.

Evangel already stated that for tourney purposes, current and classic are "the same" for Strange and just manifesting his powers at different levels or somesuch. In any case, classic feats will be applicable for him.

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
When's Strange accidentally created a universe?

That would be BFR, which is banned and which I'm not buying. He also only shunted a dude who was exploding to a different (empty) dimenison...he didn't provide the energy for the bang. So it's a simple BFR feat, nothing more.

Originally posted by DigiMark007

That would be BFR, which is banned and which I'm not buying.


That didn't really answer the question

when has Strange shown the raw power to accidentally create a universe?

Or one-shot armies of top tiers?

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
That didn't really answer the question

when has Strange shown the raw power to accidentally create a universe?

sigh

Originally posted by DigiMark007
He also only shunted a dude who was exploding to a different (empty) dimenison...he didn't provide the energy for the bang. So it's a simple BFR feat, nothing more.

He clapped his hands and said he just created a universe.

When has Strange created a universe?

Or taken out armies of top tiers without batting an eye?

Originally posted by DigiMark007
Evangel already stated that for tourney purposes, current and classic are "the same" for Strange and just manifesting his powers at different levels or somesuch. In any case, classic feats will be applicable for him.

Of course their the same, it's the same guy. But unless I'm mistaken he still drafted the current version, which has been stated to be less powerful. So even though his past feats may have the POTENTIAL to be valid for his current character because it's the same guy, there's still a good chance that he may not be able to pull off some of the uber stuff from back in the day because he's not as powerful now. So basically he still has all his old spellbooks but he can no longer cast all of them. At least that's the impression that I've been working under(though it's entirely possible that I could be mistaken)...

Originally posted by darthgoober
Of course their the same, it's the same guy. But unless I'm mistaken he still drafted the current version, which has been stated to be less powerful. So even though his past feats may have the POTENTIAL to be valid for his current character because it's the same guy, there's still a good chance that he may not be able to pull off some of the uber stuff from back in the day because he's not as powerful now. So basically he still has all his old spellbooks but he can no longer cast all of them. At least that's the impression that I've been working under(though it's entirely possible that I could be mistaken)...
I drafted classic (until it was ruled that Classic did not exist.)

Nvm Doctor was already suggested and dismissed for the 20 point category.

That's only half of the scan Joey, though it's an understandable mistake. He put his hands up and said that line after he teleported the exploding dude to the new universe. I can post the whole thing if you want...I think it's in his respect thread. But it wasn't clap-universe.

Here ya go:
http://img154.imageshack.us/my.php?image=164ar.jpg

And Kandy drafted Classic, apparently.

Except there is no classic. I couldn't pick a specific amazo and was forced to pick the current if I drafted him. so Kandy gets current strange.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Except there is no classic. I couldn't pick a specific amazo and was forced to pick the current if I drafted him. so Kandy gets current strange.

There's a difference between a specific Amazo and looking at general trends for a character. We all know why your bitching about not being able to pick a specific Amazo (JLA23 anybody?) so just drop it, it's not going to happen.

To clear things up:

Evangel has stated several times that there is no differentiation between Classic and Current Strange.

So, whether he's genuinely weaker, or still capable of everything he was before, is a matter to be brought up in the debate.

In otherwords...

STFU, Tricksterpriest.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
There's a difference between a specific Amazo and looking at general trends for a character. We all know why your bitching about not being able to pick a specific Amazo (JLA23 anybody?) so just drop it, it's not going to happen.

Right idea, wrong Amazo.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Except there is no classic. I couldn't pick a specific amazo and was forced to pick the current if I drafted him. so Kandy gets current strange.
Since you keep IGNORING the difference, let me SPELL IT OUT FOR YOU:

Amazo. Was. Twenty. Points.

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