Can Anyone Explain The Purpose For These "Camps"?

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NuclearWinter
Here is a very interesting video of "camps" that are being built around the United States of America.

I recommend that for those who wish to respond to my question, that those people click on the following link and watch this video before giving an answer. That way they will better understand the question.

http://www.infowars.com/?p=215

My question is simple. Does anyone have a logical explanation for what the places in the video are, why they exist, what they are being built for, who runs them, and why there are new things being added to them, ect. ect?

I am most interested to see what anybodies theories are.

jaden101
it is something the US government were heavily criticized for in the aftermath of hurricaine katrina was not doing enough in order to help those out of harms way who had no way of getting out themselves

i dont think camps are necessarily the right answer though...there would be adequete enough shelter available in community halls/churches etc outwish disaster areas that would be more cost effective

the likening to nazi concentration camps is just plain insulting to the people who actually went through the holocaust...both the dead and the survivors...it belittles the extent of the horror

of course it's exactly the kind of scaremongering you would expect from Jones

NuclearWinter
Bill Clinton's answer to a question about the FEMA CAMPS:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=BJ05vt7iURE&feature=related

NuclearWinter
FEMA 1: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=4zr0_9P-gz8

FEMA 2: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=e3rl1FbDT2o&feature=related

jaden101
since when have home made youtube propaganda videos been a valid source of information?

Mr Parker
Originally posted by NuclearWinter
Bill Clinton's answer to a question about the FEMA CAMPS:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=BJ05vt7iURE&feature=related

Bill Clinton is a pathalogical liar- I did not have sex with that woman.The building of these concentration camps started under his administration and has accelerated even more so under His buddy Bush and the Bush administration.Those videos say it all.Not at all surprising how Reagan totally changed what FEMA was intitially intended for under Carter.Its another government agency like the CIA which probably needs to be abolished like the CIA DEFENITELY does.Its become an agency that like the CIA that doesnt do the job which its purpose was intended.The CIA as people like winter and myself know,was intitally created to gather intelligence on foreign agencys and report that intelligence directly to the president but then it became an out of control angency with renegade rogue agents who started covert wars which congress doesnt authorize.they commit acts against the law all the time.FEMA it looks does the same thing,they didnt do anything to help those victems in hurricane katrina.

Its obviously a bad thing since it all started under those evil tyrants of the Clinton administration and Bush accelerating it even more so.

NuclearWinter
Damn straight Parker. Fema failed during Hurricane Katrina. And it looked to me like they did it on purpose. Almost as if to test their martial law strategy.

NuclearWinter
Here is video of an "internment camp" in Texas:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=TxYxTly-yo8&feature=related

The privatized Hutto "jail", which is also administered by Homeland Security and Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), contains more than just people who came over the boarder illegally. In fact, here is an article about palestinian refugees and CHILDREN being held in that camp:

http://www.counterpunch.org/moses12192006.html

In fact, Most of them are families including pregnant women and children who have never been accused of any wrongdoing but are forced to endure squalid conditions inside literal concentration camps.

Allied to the burgeoning growth of the prison industry and future plans to detain American citizens on masse, new plans have revived the potential scope of the camp, and a new contract to intern 600 individuals was finalized with immigration authorities in December 2005.

The facility is euphemistically called a "Residential Center," yet charges of overcrowding and poor conditions are rife, with an estimated 645 people filling a facility that has only 512 beds, as this article from the Texas Civil Rights Review clearly states -

http://texascivilrightsreview.org/phpnuke/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=708

Innocent children should not be jailed and forced to live under traumatizing and dehumanizing conditions. Plain and simple. Suspicions will undoubtedly be cast as to whether the facility in Tyler is part of a wider agenda to set up a network of internment camps that will be used to forcibly detain American citizens under emergency provisions. And I think all Americans should be concerned when these camps are popping up everywhere.

People, please. The government can eventually use them for whatever they want to. How many need to be built before we all stop them?

NuclearWinter
Here's another video of a protest at the "internment camp" in Texas.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=mntQogvuRI8&feature=related

NuclearWinter
Here is a video that shows Oliver North being questioned about the "continuity of government" that could end up placing millions of Americans in FEMA concentration camps:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ug0IL7k3elQ

NuclearWinter
Congressman Henry B. Gonzalez (RIP), admitted that there are actual plans to detain American citizens in the case of what the government would consider to be "terrorism".

Congressman Henry Gonzales (D,Tx) stated,

"the truth is yes...the plans are here... whereby you could, in the name of stopping terrorism... evoke the military and arrest Americans and put them in detention camps."

Here is an article in The Federal Observer which covered Mr. Gonzales's comments:

http://www.federalobserver.com/archive.php?aid=753

Here is a little more info about Congressman Gonzales:

http://archives.cnn.com/2000/ALLPOLITICS/stories/11/29/bc.obit.gonzalez.ap/

NuclearWinter
For those who are religious, here is a 9 part series on the concentration camps in the USA:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=OJ9wgXl_3Lk&feature=related (Part 1)

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Pc9aoCaWnoQ&feature=related (Part 2)

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ZiQqPGZI60w&feature=related (Part 3)

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=k7y41AJQyhg&feature=related (Part 4)

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=W7xvJjHQzmY&feature=related (Part 5)

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=KTAFBow0_So&feature=related (Part 6)

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzmgripQUnU&feature=related (Part 7)

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=oyxXYq4zpA0&feature=related (Part 8)

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=B01jK9ZbBNk&feature=related (Part 9)

Katsu
Those camps, they look horrible.

My guess is that dangerous people who know the truth about the USA will be held captive there. So please, Mr Parker and NuclearWinter watch your back big grin

NuclearWinter
Well, here's one citizen who is up to speed on whats going on in this country:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=vFNAEYQkD3s

NuclearWinter
Originally posted by Katsu
Those camps, they look horrible.

My guess is that dangerous people who know the truth about the USA will be held captive there. So please, Mr Parker and NuclearWinter watch your back big grin

Yeah but if Parker is anything like me than he doesn't care. I'll take anything to try and help prevent this from happening.

jaden101
Originally posted by NuclearWinter
Yeah but if Parker is anything like me than he doesn't care. I'll take anything to try and help prevent this from happening.

if parker is anything like you then you have my sympathy

NuclearWinter
Here is the actual United States Homeland Security document that outlines the plan to build "Detention Camps" all around the United States:

http://cryptogon.com/docs/endgame.pdf

It doesn't get any better than the actual document folks.

NuclearWinter
Here is a video of soldiers in the military preparing/training to take over American cities in the case of Martial Law. Obviously use of force would be authorized in this situation, and American Citizens would be fair game and could be shot or killed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71Jux68F_AQ&eurl=http://www.fight4truth.com/concentrationcamps.htm

NuclearWinter
Here is a video of Gongressman Henry B. Gonzalez giving his famous speech about how there are plans right now, for the arresting of American citizens and the holding of American Citizens in detention camps:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpXh7DCptaQ&eurl=http://www.fight4truth.com/concentrationcamps.htm

jaden101
Originally posted by NuclearWinter
Here is the actual United States Homeland Security document that outlines the plan to build "Detention Camps" all around the United States:

http://cryptogon.com/docs/endgame.pdf

It doesn't get any better than the actual document folks.

it's about illegal immigration...you realised this did you not

it doesn't have anything to do with what you initially started this thread about and it's no more of a conspiracy as building a new prison to hold criminals

NuclearWinter

NuclearWinter
Daniel Hamburg is a former Democratic Congressman who was elected to the 1st Congressional District of California in 1992 and also subsequently ran for Governor of California, finishing in 3rd place.

Hamburg co-wrote a well-received recent article carried by the San Francisco Chronicle in which he outlined the program to incarcerate American citizens in internment camps, which have already been publicly built, during a time of declared national emergency.

Here is the article that former Congressman Daniel Hamburg wrote about these "prison" camps for American citizens.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/02/04/ED5OUPQJ7.DTL

In the article, the Congressman states that:

Since 9/11, and seemingly without the notice of most Americans, the federal government has assumed the authority to institute martial law, arrest a wide swath of dissidents (citizen and noncitizen alike), and detain people without legal or constitutional recourse in the event of "an emergency influx of immigrants in the U.S., or to support the rapid development of new programs."

But I have already stated before that I think what the government claims these camps are for and what they are really for is two different things. They aren't permanently for illegal aliens because our government is currently pushing for the SPPA. A "north-american partnership" AKA North American Union AKA Open borders policy.

And again, they are not just being built in the USA, they are being built all over the World.

NuclearWinter
Originally posted by jaden101
it's about illegal immigration...you realised this did you not

it doesn't have anything to do with what you initially started this thread about and it's no more of a conspiracy as building a new prison to hold criminals

The government is not building them for illegal aliens. Despite what they claim. The government is pushing for open borders. So why would they do the opposite with the camps?

NuclearWinter
Congressman Jim McDermot made a speech about the "internment camps" and the rounding up of American citizens during Martial Law in the United States:

http://www.house.gov/mcdermott/sp030311.shtml

In the speech, Congressman Jim McDermot said:

"From 1982 to 1984, Colonel Oliver North assisted FEMA in drafting its civil defense preparations. Details of those plans emerged during the 1987 Iran-Contra scandal. They included executive orders providing for suspension of the Constitution, the imposition of martial law, internment camps, and the turning over of government to the President and FEMA."

jaden101
Originally posted by NuclearWinter
The government is not building them for illegal aliens. Despite what they claim. The government is pushing for open borders. So why would they do the opposite with the camps?

illegal immigrants dont pay taxes...they may want an open border policy and they may even want a north american union...but most of all they want people paying up and they only want people coming in who they consider to be beneficial to the US economy

so posting an paper on the expulsion of illegal immigrants is not the smoking gun you claim it to be

NuclearWinter

NuclearWinter
Originally posted by jaden101
illegal immigrants dont pay taxes...they may want an open border policy and they may even want a north american union...but most of all they want people paying up and they only want people coming in who they consider to be beneficial to the US economy

so posting an paper on the expulsion of illegal immigrants is not the smoking gun you claim it to be

I'll let others decide that for themselves. As if you think imprisoning Mexican families in our country is what America stands for anyway. Even if that was the case. Which I don't believe it is. There is a much darker reason for these camps. Much darker indeed.

jaden101
Originally posted by NuclearWinter
I'll let others decide that for themselves. As if you think imprisoning Mexican families in our country is what America stands for anyway. Even if that was the case. Which I don't believe it is.

well i am one of those others am i not...or is it because i disagree with your post.

you dont beleive what is the case?...that America has the right to expell people who enter their country illegally and have no intention of paying taxes ever in their lives

i can assure you this happens everywhere in the world...

in the UK it's not viewed as some huge conspiracy that places such as
http://www.ncadc.org.uk/resources/addresses.html

they're hugely controvertial on the human rights debate but they're certainly not the subject of mass conspiracy debates like they are in the US

keep in mind that the level of illegal immigration to the UK is fae less than that to the US

i personally believe that the idiocy of the current US administration has led to people thinking that every decision they make is somehow working against the people of the US...it's quite a bizarre and uniquely US mentality when you think about it

NuclearWinter
Originally posted by jaden101

i personally believe that the idiocy of the current US administration has led to people thinking that every decision they make is somehow working against the people of the US...it's quite a bizarre and uniquely US mentality when you think about it

Maybe thats because almost every single decision they have made in the past 2 years has been working against the people of the US.

NuclearWinter
Here is an article from the Website of Political Research Associates which goes into detail about how FEMA and the Department of Defense issued a joint paper entitled, "The Civil/Military Alliance in Emergency Management" which specified many of the provisions of Reagan's policy on emergency mobilization preparedness:

http://www.publiceye.org/liberty/fema/Fema_3.html

The document indicates that FEMA had been given emergency powers to acquire resources from federal and state agencies (including National Guard personnel) and the private sector (banking, communications, transportation, etc.) "for use in civil disturbance operations."

The article states:

The exercise anticipated civil disturbances, major demonstrations and strikes that would affect continuity of government and/or resource mobilization. To fight subversive activities, there was authorization for the military to implement government ordered movements of civilian populations at state and regional levels, the arrest of certain unidentified segments of the population, and the imposition of martial rule.

jaden101
Originally posted by NuclearWinter
Here is an article from the Website of Political Research Associates which goes into detail about how FEMA and the Department of Defense issued a joint paper entitled, "The Civil/Military Alliance in Emergency Management" which specified many of the provisions of Reagan's policy on emergency mobilization preparedness:

http://www.publiceye.org/liberty/fema/Fema_3.html

The document indicates that FEMA had been given emergency powers to acquire resources from federal and state agencies (including National Guard personnel) and the private sector (banking, communications, transportation, etc.) "for use in civil disturbance operations."

The article states:

The exercise anticipated civil disturbances, major demonstrations and strikes that would affect continuity of government and/or resource mobilization. To fight subversive activities, there was authorization for the military to implement government ordered movements of civilian populations at state and regional levels, the arrest of certain unidentified segments of the population, and the imposition of martial rule.

so basically the kind of mass mobilization demonstrations such as the anti war protests involving millions of people...and nothing was done then




only if your a complete conspiracy "enthusiast" and think there is some kind of hidden agenda behind all those policies

Deano
those camps are for uss

Former Congressman Warns Of Martial Law Camps In America

http://www.infowars.net/articles/february2008/210208Camps.htm

NuclearWinter

NuclearWinter
Executive Order Number 12148 created the Federal Emergency Management Agency that is to interface with the Department of Defense for civil defense planning and funding. An "emergency czar" was appointed. FEMA has only spent about 6 percent of its budget on national emergencies. So all of the rest of the money must be going somewhere.....

Here is a look at the executive order from the United States Executive Order Archive:

http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.php?pid=32625

NuclearWinter
Executive Order Number 12656 appointed the National Security Council as the principal body that should consider emergency powers. This allows the government to increase domestic intelligence and surveillance of U.S. citizens and would restrict the freedom of movement within the United States and grant the government the right to isolate large groups of civilians. The National Guard could be federalized to seal all borders and take control of U.S. air space and all ports of entry.

Here is a look at the executive order from the United States Executive Order Archive:

http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.php?pid=35183

NuclearWinter
EXECUTIVE ORDER 10990 allows the government to take over all modes of transportation and control of highways and seaports.

Here is a look at the executive order from the United States Executive Order Archive:

http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.php?pid=58928


EXECUTIVE ORDER 10995 allows the government to seize and control the communication media.

Here is a look at the executive order from the United States Executive Order Archive:

http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.php?pid=58933


EXECUTIVE ORDER 10997 allows the government to take over all electrical power, gas, petroleum, fuels and minerals.

Here is a look at the executive order from the United States Executive Order Archive:

http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.php?pid=58935

NuclearWinter
EXECUTIVE ORDER 10998 allows the government to take over all food resources and farms.

Here is a look at the executive order from the United States Executive Order Archive:

http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.php?pid=58936


EXECUTIVE ORDER 11000 allows the government to mobilize civilians into work brigades under government supervision.

Here is a look at the executive order from the United States Executive Order Archive:

http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.php?pid=58938


EXECUTIVE ORDER 11001 allows the government to take over all health, education and welfare functions.

Here is a look at the executive order from the United States Executive Order Archive:

http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.php?pid=58940

NuclearWinter
EXECUTIVE ORDER 11002 designates the Postmaster General to operate a national registration of all persons.

Here is a look at the executive order from the United States Executive Order Archive:

http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.php?pid=58941


EXECUTIVE ORDER 11003 allows the government to take over all airports and aircraft, including commercial aircraft.

Here is a look at the executive order from the United States Executive Order Archive:

http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.php?pid=58942


EXECUTIVE ORDER 11004 allows the Housing and Finance Authority to relocate communities, build new housing with public funds, designate areas to be abandoned, and establish new locations for populations.

Here is a look at the executive order from the United States Executive Order Archive:

http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.php?pid=58943

NuclearWinter
EXECUTIVE ORDER 11005 allows the government to take over railroads, inland waterways and public storage facilities.

Here is a look at the executive order from the United States Executive Order Archive:

http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.php?pid=58944


EXECUTIVE ORDER 11051 specifies the responsibility of the Office of Emergency Planning and gives authorization to put all Executive Orders into effect in times of increased international tensions and economic or financial crisis.

Here is a look at the executive order from the United States Executive Order Archive:

http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.php?pid=58990


EXECUTIVE ORDER 11310 grants authority to the Department of Justice to enforce the plans set out in Executive Orders, to institute industrial support, to establish judicial and legislative liaison, to control all aliens, to operate penal and correctional institutions, and to advise and assist the President.

This Executive Order comes from none other than Lyndon B. Johnson

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_federal_executive_orders

NuclearWinter
EXECUTIVE ORDER 11049 assigns emergency preparedness function to federal departments and agencies, consolidating 21 operative Executive Orders issued over a fifteen year period.

Here is a look at the executive order from the United States Executive Order Archive:

http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.php?pid=58988


EXECUTIVE ORDER 11921 allows the Federal Emergency Preparedness Agency to develop plans to establish control over the mechanisms of production and distribution, of energy sources, wages, salaries, credit and the flow of money in U.S. financial institution in any undefined national emergency. It also provides that when a state of emergency is declared by the President, Congress cannot review the action for six months. The Federal Emergency Management Agency has broad powers in every aspect of the nation.

Here is a look at the executive order from the United States Executive Order Archive:

http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.php?pid=59356

NuclearWinter
Here is a video of the Military preparing for a martial law scenario, where they will have the ability to basicly beat and arrest whoever is resisting them whatsoever:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_9_5aBU33E&feature=related

NuclearWinter
Very good video on Bush's power grab and his dictatorial powers that he has now given to whoever is the President of the United States:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jatpX6kuxHQ&feature=related

NuclearWinter
Well here we go folks, they are steeming ahead with their plans for the trains. You saw the camp video folks, the camps are being built right next to the train tracks. And now we have FEMA coming out directly and stating that they are planning up increasing the use of trains for the next "disaster" that hits the United States, whatever that "disaster" may be. Whether it be man-made or nature made.

But you know what, I think they really mean, in the event of Martial Law being declared during one of these "emergency situations".

Here are the recently released news articles which show PROOF that FEMA is planning to use massive amounts of trains for the next "disaster" outbreak:

http://www.examiner.com/a-1215440~FEMA_Looks_at_Trains_for_Evacautions.html - Los Angeles Examiner Article

http://www.kltv.com/Global/story.asp?S=7856418&nav=menu117_2_1 - KLTV 7 News Article

http://www.wkyc.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=83188 - WKYC News Article

http://www.wtoctv.com/Global/story.asp?S=7859407&nav=0qq64h3l - WTOCTV News Article

NuclearWinter
Well I'm not buying it at all. I think this is a nightmare scenario.

Trains for the sick and elderly? Lol. Are you serious? FEMA didn't do squat when the sick and elderly were drowning and dying in their wheelchairs during that hellish week of Huricane Katrina. Do you people really believe that FEMA is a loving, fuzzy, cuddly organization that cares so much about the sick and the elderly? For crying out loud they are now tied into the United States Department of Defense!

And another thing, the amount of train cars being built, and the amount of trains being built, can hold WAY WAY more people in them than just the sick and the elderly. Whats all the extra space for? Hmmm...could it be MORE people?

And where are these trains going to bring the people that are filled with them? Are they going to cruise past a homeless shelter and drop them off? lol. Hell no. There aren't even enough Homeless shelters to hold them all. Are they going to drop them in other cities? Yeah right. The cities that they were dropped in would be filled to it's maximum capacity, and the economy of that cities would be strained with all the new people to feed and clothe. So thats not going to happen.

Hmmm....so what does that leave us with folks? Can we say, The over 800 FEMA concentration camps that can hold millions of people in total? Can we say, the same camps from the same videos I posted that are located RIGHT NEXT TO the train tracks?

I'm telling you what. There is no way in hell I'm getting on any FEMA train, and going to any camp where they are going to hold me "indefinately". F-ck that.

Straight from the article:

NEW ORLEANS (AP) - The Federal Emergency Management Agency may expand the use of passenger trains to evacuate the sick and elderly in advance of hurricanes across the Gulf Coast, a FEMA official said.

Glenn Cannon, a FEMA assistant administrator, told a congressional subcommittee meeting in New Orleans on Monday that his agency is looking at passenger trains as a method of getting people out of harm's way.

After Hurricane Katrina hit in August 2005, Amtrak was hired to be on hand to evacuate people if another disaster hit.

And then there is this very worrysome statement:

But, he said, turning railways into evacuation routes won't be easy.

Rights of way for most railroads are privately owned by freight companies, and there is no congressional mandate to use railroads for evacuations. Also, the existing stock of passenger cars cannot accommodate evacuees unable to walk, he said.

So what does that mean? Hmmm..does that mean that FEMA and/or the President and/or congress is going to physically change the laws so that they can take posession of most railways in our country for their own purposes? VERY, VERY, Scary folks.

Please look at this with an open mind and open EYES folks. We need to do something. It's all coming into fruition, and if we don't do anything we're going to be screwed in the end.

The mind is like a parachute folks. It works better when it's open.

http://www.wtopnews.com/index.php?nid=104&sid=1343646

NuclearWinter
Here is a video of the military going from house to house and disarming the population in New Orleans. In the video, they are using the "threat" of force, to get people out of their homes and to do what the military tells them to do:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4IbxUMWu8Q&NR=1

NuclearWinter
Here is a video of George W. Bush having Alex Jones arrested for asking him questions about the CFR, the Federal Reserve, ect. Look at the smirk on George Bush's face as he gives the nod to have Alex arrested:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoyn_doplUM&feature=related

What ever happened to "Freedom of Speech"?

NuclearWinter
This video is full of amazing points about the freedoms of America being trampled upon:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTtv-rAsgVI&feature=related

NuclearWinter
Former President George H. W. Bush calls out for a New World Order:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pw1ZlyqASX8&feature=related

Former President George H. W. Bush states that the "Rule of Law" is part of the New World Order and that it will prevail in all nations:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGNQ5QfZJBw&feature=related

Former President George H. W. Bush says that Ronald Reagan helped the plans for a New World Order:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLlQxVpeHHs&feature=related

Former President Bill Clinton says that we need a New World Order in this country:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzUkhKaNylM&feature=related

Bush, Clinton, Bush, Clinton:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIhC6lXoTls&feature=related

British Prime Minister Gordon Brown admits plan for a New World Order and Globalization (One World Government):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uv5cqh26CC0&feature=related

jaden101
you refer to them as concentration camps and you post lots of youtube videos...i want you to watch these

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Qt1tu4igqnk

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=pJcZz4pLGNc&feature=related

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=BazGGwrDotg&feature=related

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=mUfHrYcBqKM&feature=related

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=BCVBlugadrY&feature=related

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=7IYVkJCfPwc&feature=related

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=FoUw8U5EQrQ&feature=related

there's a part missing..and it's in french...but you dont need subtitles...believe me

NuclearWinter
Or you can watch this video Jaden,

C-SPAN video of Congress being kept away from the truth about George Bush's so called "Emergency Plans". These are the same plans in connection with FEMA and FEMA's Concentration Camps:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_gD25lwjAk

jaden101
so you're not going to watch them?...well then dont embaress yourself by talking about concentration camps then

NuclearWinter
There is the The Act of August 29, 1916, which authorizes the Secretary of the Army, in time of war, to take possession of any transportation system for transporting troops, material, or any other purpose related to the emergency:

http://uscode.house.gov/download/pls/49C605.txt

FEMA's powers were consolidated by President Carter to incorporate: The National Security Act of 1947, which allows for the strategic relocation of industries, services, government and other essential economic activities, and to rationalize the requirements for manpower, resources and production facilities.

http://www.intelligence.gov/0-natsecact_1947.shtml - Unclassified National Security Act of 1947 Document

The 1950 Defense Production Act, which gives the President sweeping powers over many aspects of the economy:

http://www.osti.gov/energycitations/product.biblio.jsp?osti_id=6537754

And then there is The International Emergency Economic Powers Act, which enables the President to seize the property of a foreign country or national. These powers were transferred to FEMA in a sweeping consolidation in 1979:

http://www.treas.gov/offices/enforcement/ofac/legal/statutes/ieepa.pdf

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Emergency_Economic_Powers_Act

From the wikipedia article:

The International Emergency Economic Powers Act (IEEPA) is a United States federal law allowing U.S. Presidents to identify any unusual extraordinary threat that originates outside the United States and to confiscate property and prohibit transactions in response. In the United States Code the IEEPA is Title 50, sections 1701-1707.

NuclearWinter
And then of course we have The John Warner Defense Act of 2007 passed easily at the end of September 2006, authorizing the expenditure of $526 billion for fiscal year 2007. Only 23 U.S. representatives voted against the Act, and not a single senator objected during a unanimous voice vote. Section 1076 of the Act Changed the title of the law from "Insurrection Act" to "Enforcement of the Laws to Restore Public Order Act".

Specifies situations in which the President can invoke martial law (natural disaster, epidemic, or other serious public health emergency, terrorist attack or incident or other condition in which the President determines that domestic violence has occurred to the extent that state officials cannot maintain public order). These had not been specified before.

Here is an official press release about the Act:

http://armed-services.senate.gov/press/Conference%2007%20Press%20Release.pdf

Here is the Wikipedia description of the act:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H.R._5122_(2006)

Wikipedia states:

H.R. 5122, also known as the John Warner National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2007 was a bill passed in the United States Congress on September 30, 2006 and signed by President George W. Bush on October 17, 2006. Among other things, it includes:

$500 billion allocated to the military and defense related activities for fiscal year 2007

Expansion of the President's power to declare martial law under revisions to the Insurrection Act, and take charge of United States National Guard troops without state governor authorization when public order has been lost and the state and its constituted authorities cannot enforce the law.

Mr. Slippyfist
16 posts in a row?

This thread should be closed just because of that...

jaden101
times it's been used?...ww2 to transport troops across the atlantic



why is only some of that highlighted and not the rest?...trying to portray skewed information?

NuclearWinter
Originally posted by jaden101
why is only some of that highlighted and not the rest?...trying to portray skewed information?

Why does it exist in the first place?

Without authorization....Hmmm....

Who gets to determine when "public order has been lost"? Let me guess, is that the President as well?

Mr Parker
great stuff there winter.thanks for that great information.when clinton and his buddy bush start talking about having a new world order,you know its not good for the world.

NuclearWinter
The prevention of thougtcrimes bill that passed through the House and is now in the Senate:

http://cryptome.org/1984update.htm

And this little lovely intent to restructure the government, straight from the white house

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2007/05/20070509-12.html

NuclearWinter
Nat Hentoff (born June 10, 1925) is an American historian, novelist, and columnist for the Village Voice, Legal Times, Washington Times, The Progressive, Editor & Publisher, Free Inquiry and Jewish World Review.

Nat Hentoff received his B.A. with the highest honors from Northeastern University and did graduate work at Harvard. He was a Fulbright fellow at the Sorbonne in Paris in 1950. From 1953 through 1957 he was associate editor of Down Beat magazine. He was awarded a Guggenheim Fellowship in education and an American Bar Association Silver Gavel Award in 1980 for his coverage of the law and criminal justice in his columns. In 1985 he was awarded an honorary Doctorate of Laws by Northeastern University.

Here is an article by Nat Hentoff in the Village Voice in which he also outlines General Ashcroft's plans for Detention Camps in the United States:

http://www.villagevoice.com/news/0236,hentoff,38006,6.html

In the article, Hentoff states:

"Now more Americans are also going to be dispossessed of every fundamental legal right in our system of justice and put into camps."

Here is more info about Nat Hentoff:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nat_Hentoff

NuclearWinter
Just recently, (last 1.5 years) it was changed to now the President has total control over the National Guard in each state. That is, to say, that the Governors can't say no.

http://www.stateline.org/live/details/story?contentId=170453

NuclearWinter
Anita Ramasastry is a law professor at the University of Washington School of Law in Seattle and a director of the Shidler Center for Law, Commerce & Technology. She is also a regular columnist for the online legal commentary Writ.

Ramasastry earned a B.A. in 1988 from Harvard University, a M.A. in 1990 from University of Sydney, and a J.D. in 1992 from Harvard Law School.

Here is a CNN news article about Ashcrofts plan for detention camps in America done by Anita Ramasastry:

http://archives.cnn.com/2002/LAW/08/column...stry.detainees/

In the article, Anita Ramasastry states:

Attorney General Ashcroft and the White House are considering creating military detention camps for all U.S. citizens deemed by the administration to be enemy combatants.

The internees will be deemed enemy combatants. By whom? By the military alone -- without any right to judicial review in a federal court or otherwise.

The government's position is that its own decision as to who is an enemy combatant is binding on federal courts, and that it need not even offer the courts individualized facts to support particular detention decisions.

We now are faced with a scary prospect -- indefinite detention of multiple citizens because the government decides they are dangerous. The mere suggestion of camps or group detention facilities implies that the Executive is, in fact, considering using its newfound citizen-combatant detention program on a broader scale.

Here is more information about Anita Ramasastry:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anita_Ramasastry

NuclearWinter
Here is a Pacific News article published in 2006 about a $385 million contract for Halliburton subsidiary KBR to build concentration camps all across the United States:

http://news.pacificnews.org/news/view_arti...06fe03f4c9b3a77

In the article, it states that:

Almost no paper so far has discussed the possibility that detention centers could be used to detain American citizens if the Bush administration were to declare martial law.

Plans for detention facilities or camps have a long history, going back to fears in the 1970s of a national uprising by black militants.

After 9/11, new martial law plans began to surface similar to those of FEMA in the 1980s. In January 2002 the Pentagon submitted a proposal for deploying troops on American streets.

It is clear that the Bush administration is thinking seriously about martial law. A multimillion program for detention facilities will greatly increase NORTHCOM's ability to respond to any domestic disorders.

NuclearWinter
Here is another article from MarketWatch covering the same story about how the government is hiring Halliburton subsidiary KBR with a 385 million contract to build concentration camps all across the United States:

http://www.marketwatch.com/News/Story/Stor...77662-858254656

In the article, it states that:

The contract may also provide migrant detention support to other government organizations in the event of an immigration emergency, as well as the development of a plan to react to a national emergency (Which is whatever the government deems it to be), such as a natural disaster, the company said.

Katsu
The purpose of these camps?

Well, America is supposed to collapse, the dollar is supposed to collapse. The Elite wants to turn the USA into a communist regime.

People were supposed to find out that 9-11 was a FAKE. Alex Jones is just one of the elite trying to start a civil war in the USA.

Its all part of the plan. Remember the "Protocols of the Elders of Zion": all revolutions against us will be lead by us. The elite is in Europe, not USA.

Like Sir Francis Bacon said: "America will become the new Atlantis", dragging the whole world down under with it.

Martial Law will be declared soon in the USA.

jaden101
what?

KharmaDog
Originally posted by Katsu
The Elite wants to turn the USA into a communist regime.

What would this accomplish? And how do you think this is supposed to happen?

Your ramblings are often insane. But I want to here you think this one through. With all the variables equated, just how is the U.S. going to end up as a communist regime?

jaden101
that's what i was "what?"ing at...i think it's maybe just a misunderstanding of communism...seeing as in the US its synonomous with "evil empire" ala the soviets where as in reality as an economic idealogue its something worthy to aspire to...in that everyone contributes and everyone gets an equal share

not that a true communist state would ever work in any human civilisation

Blue_Hefner
Originally posted by NuclearWinter
Here is a very interesting video of "camps" that are being built around the United States of America.

I recommend that for those who wish to respond to my question, that those people click on the following link and watch this video before giving an answer. That way they will better understand the question.

http://www.infowars.com/?p=215

My question is simple. Does anyone have a logical explanation for what the places in the video are, why they exist, what they are being built for, who runs them, and why there are new things being added to them, ect. ect?

I am most interested to see what anybodies theories are.


Concentration camps for when The illuminati officially takes over

Katsu
The elite have big plans in store for The USA. What i have said, may or may not be true, its what i think, i have no proof for this one, so unlike me! No one knows exactly what they want with the USA.

Those camps are suspicious though and so is Alex Jones.

Deano
just watch out for around 2012. this date has major significance

KharmaDog
Originally posted by Katsu
Well, America is supposed to collapse, the dollar is supposed to collapse. The Elite wants to turn the USA into a communist regime.

Originally posted by Katsu
The elite have big plans in store for The USA. What i have said, may or may not be true, its what i think, i have no proof for this one, so unlike me! No one knows exactly what they want with the USA.

Does anyone else see the major problem with these statements?

Mr Parker
Originally posted by Katsu
The purpose of these camps?

Well, America is supposed to collapse, the dollar is supposed to collapse. The Elite wants to turn the USA into a communist regime.

People were supposed to find out that 9-11 was a FAKE. Alex Jones is just one of the elite trying to start a civil war in the USA.

Its all part of the plan. Remember the "Protocols of the Elders of Zion": all revolutions against us will be lead by us. The elite is in Europe, not USA.

Like Sir Francis Bacon said: "America will become the new Atlantis", dragging the whole world down under with it.

Martial Law will be declared soon in the USA.

I agree with everything you said except what you said about Alex Jones.The guy is a patriot.He is trying to do something.he cant do it all by himself though.The people have to stop being afraid to stand up to the government and demand that congress do something right for a change in government.they wont though.thats the problem.

jaden101
Originally posted by KharmaDog
Does anyone else see the major problem with these statements?

yip

Katsu
Time will tell, no one can deny its not going swell with the USA right now.

The paper money thingy could blow up.

http://magicstatistics.com/wp-content/pictures/places/Zimbabwe_Restaurant.jpg

One Big Mac please!

jaden101
hahaha...class pic

i remember seeing something similar in a documentary about Somalia where there is a kind of stock trading thing where people trade massive amounts of banknotes which are virtually worthless but they all have mountains of cash...it was very odd

NuclearWinter

NuclearWinter
Here is another article from Global Research that talks about the $385 million dollar deal to build concentration camps in the United States:

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?con...&articleId=2045

In the article, it states that:

A recently announced contract for a Halliburton subsidiary to build immigrant detention facilities is part of a longer-term Homeland Security plan titled ENDGAME, which sets as its goal the removal of "all removable aliens" and "potential terrorists." Scott is author of "Drugs, Oil, and War: The United States in Afghanistan, Colombia, and Indochina" (Rowman & Littlefield, 2003). He is completing a book on "The Road to 9/11." Visit his Web site at: http://socrates.berkeley.edu/~pdscott/index.html

The Halliburton subsidiary KBR (formerly Brown and Root) announced on Jan. 24 that it had been awarded a $385 million contingency contract by the Department of Homeland Security to build detention camps. Two weeks later, on Feb. 6, Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff announced that the Fiscal Year 2007 federal budget would allocate over $400 million to add 6,700 additional detention beds (an increase of 32 percent over 2006). This $400 million allocation is more than a four-fold increase over the FY 2006 budget, which provided only $90 million for the same purpose.

ENDGAME's crash program is designed to house additional detainees who have not been convicted of crimes.

Significantly, both the KBR contract and the ENDGAME plan are open-ended. The contract calls for a response to "an emergency influx of immigrants, or to support the rapid development of new programs" in the event of other emergencies, such as "a natural disaster." "New programs" is of course a term with no precise limitation. So, in the current administration, is ENDGAME's goal of removing "potential terrorists."

It is relevant that in 2002, Attorney General John Ashcroft announced his desire to see camps for U.S. citizens deemed to be "enemy combatants." In a speech to the Council on Foreign Relations, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld spoke of the harm being done to the country's security, not just by the enemy, but also by what he called "news informers" who needed to be combated in "a contest of wills." Two days earlier, citing speeches critical of Bush by Al Gore, John Kerry, and Howard Dean, conservative columnist Ben Shapiro called for "legislation to prosecute such sedition."

Since 9/11 the Bush administration has implemented a number of inter-related programs, which had been planned for secretly in the 1980s under President Reagan. These so-called "Continuity of Government" or COG proposals included vastly expanded detention capabilities, warrantless eavesdropping and detention, and preparations for greater use of martial law.

North's exercise, which reportedly contemplated possible suspension of the United States Constitution, led to questions being asked during the Iran-Contra Hearings. One concern then was that North's plans for expanded internment and detention facilities would not be confined to "refugees" alone.

NuclearWinter
Here is a 2006 Article from Global Research that gives a detailed description on the concentration camps that FEMA is currently constructing in the United States:

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?con...&articleId=3010

In the article, it states that:

We are dangerously close to a situation where ~ if the American people took to the streets in righteous indignation or if there were another 9/11 ~ a mechanism for martial law could be quickly implemented and carried out under REX 84.

The Cheney/Bush administration has a plan which would accommodate the detention of large numbers of American citizens during times of emergency.

Existence of the Rex 84 plan was first revealed during the Iran-Contra Hearings in 1987, and subsequently reported by the Miami Herald on July 5, 1987:

" These camps are to be operated by FEMA should martial law need to be implemented in the United States and all it would take is a presidential signature on a proclamation and the attorney general's signature on a warrant to which a list of names is attached."

There over 800 prison camps in the United States, all fully operational and ready to receive prisoners. They are all staffed and even surrounded by full-time guards, but they are all empty. These camps are to be operated by FEMA should martial law need to be implemented in the United States and all it would take is a presidential signature on a proclamation and the attorney general's signature on a warrant to which a list of names is attached.

The camps all have railroad facilities as well as roads leading to and from the detention facilities. Many also have an airport nearby. The majority of the camps can house a population of 20,000 prisoners.

Currently, the largest of these facilities is just outside of Fairbanks, Alaska. The Alaskan facility is a massive mental health facility and can hold thousands of people.

NuclearWinter
As America Collapses U.S. Government Secret Plans Revealed

By: B.A. Brooks 05/13/08

On March 13th 2008 there was a secret closed door meeting of The United States House Of Representatives in Washington. During the last 182 years in the history of The United States, this is only the sixth time a secret meeting has been held by The House. Even though Representatives are sworn to secrecy by House Rules XVII, some of the members were so shocked, horrified, furious, and concerned about the future of America by what was revealed to them inside the secret meeting, that they have started to leak this secret information to independent news agencies around the world. The mass media said almost nothing about the secret meeting of the House, mentioning only one of the items being discussed. (The new surveillance techniques that are going to be used by the U.S. Government to watch all American citizens). The story was first released in a newspaper out of Brisbane, Australia revealing the contents of the secret U.S. Government meeting and plans for America including all of it's citizens. Shortly there after, David J. Meyer from Last Trumpet Ministries found it and made it more available for the world to see.

Here is what was revealed:

The imminent collapse of the U.S. Economy to occur sometime in late 2008

The imminent collapse of the U.S. Government finances sometime in mid 2009

The possibility of Civil War inside the United States as a result of the collapse

The advance round-ups of "insurgent U.S. Citizens" likely to move against the government

The detention of those rounded up at The REX 84 Camps constructed throughout the United States

The possibility of public retaliation against members of Congress for the collapses

The location of safe facilities for members of Congress and their families to reside during massive civil unrest

The necessary and unavoidable merger of The U.S. with Canada and Mexico establishing The North American Union

The issuance of a new currency called the AMERO for all three nations as an economic solution

NuclearWinter
http://www.australia.to/story/0,25197,23040466-922,00,00.html

Lycanthrope
So All this being said. Arm yourselves. Remington 870 pump and 1100 auto are good shotguns. Czech made AK-47 are good battle riffles and cheap but wont penetrate body armor 7.62x39.. Stoner or Bushmaster AR-15(Expensive), Ruger Mini-14(Cheap to buy) H&K 93-91(Expensive) 5.56 and 7.62x59 both of these calibers will penetrate body armor. Springfield M1-A1 great weapon. Pistols Glock 17-21 9mm, SF XD9, Beretta storm, FNP.Start training. Learn to live off the land. Research local vegetation. Buy ammo now before Bidden passes sanctions on the purchasing of Ammo. Get Body armor before they outlaw the sale of it,which they are in the process now of doing. Get a med-pac and survivlae bag ready.
Our voice In govt. means nothing. Our Civil actions mean nothing. We must rise and match force with equal force. This is our Constitutional right.

As everyone can see this is real. Are you going to "Go gently into that good night" or will you "Cry Havoc and Loose the dogs of War" couldnt resist the quotes :-)

NuclearWinter

NuclearWinter

NuclearWinter
South American nations to seek common currency

May 28, 2008 9:54:14 PM

Brazilian President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva said Monday that South American nations will seek a common currency as part of the region's integration efforts following the creation of the Union of South American Nations (Unasur) last week.

"We are proceeding so as, in the future, we have a common central bank and a common currency," said Lula in his weekly radio program, noting that this process will "not be fast."

The president highlighted the importance of helping the group's more "economically fragile" members, such as Paraguay, Uruguay and Bolivia.

"We have to help them because the stronger the countries in South America economically are, the more tranquility, peace, democracy, trade, companies, jobs, incomes and development," he said.

The Brazilian leader said the creation of Unasur will allow cross-nation construction of railroads, highways, bridges and transmission lines connecting the region, while the alliance will make negotiations with other blocs easier.

The president said changes will be made on the proposal to create a regional defense council, which the South American leaders failed to agree during a summit in Brasilia on Friday.

A working group is expected to analyze the revised proposal in August, he said.

Lula plans to visit Colombia in July and meet Colombian President Alvaro Uribe. Colombia was the only member that opposed the plan to build the regional defense council designed to resolve regional conflicts, promote military cooperation and possibly coordinate joint weapons production in the region.

Uribe has said Colombia is experiencing a difficult time in its fight against the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (FARC), the largest rebel group in the country, and such a regional defense body would not offer solutions to Colombia's problem.

The heads of state of 12 South American countries -- Argentina, Bolivia, Brazil, Chile, Colombia, Ecuador, Guyana, Paraguay, Peru, Suriname, Uruguay and Venezuela -- signed a treaty last Friday in Brasilia on the creation of Unasur aimed at boosting economic integration and political cohesion in the region.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2022810/posts

NuclearWinter
Right so what we have here folks, is another common currency between many nations that has been created. Or plans for a common currency that is. The South American Union itself has already been created. And it is modeled after the European Union.

So we now have two Control systems in place for the population of the World. Control the World's economies....and you control the people who live under them.

Whats the quickest way to control the World? I don't know just ask the people who are currently in the process of doing it!

2 Unions folks. Already created. They wanted a European Union. They got it. They wanted a South American Union. They got it. They want a North American Union....they are in the process of creating it. And then they want an Asian/Pacific Union and an African Union.

And let me tell you something folks.......you should be extremely worried. Because once they have all their Unions put together, they will merge them all together, to create a system of total control. where the World's finances are in the hands of a few, and where one single World currency is controlled by corrupt beings with no more care for the World than what you have for your ShI! after you flush it down the toilet.

You think I am joking. They are doing it as we speak. All I can say, is that I hope Americans are smart enough to figure out what they are doing with our economy at the moment. They are purposely trying to bankrupt our entire country, and our government, and many if not almost all of our corporations, so that we all get on our knees and beg for some kind of a quick solution. And folks, they already have the solution ready, because it is they who created the problem!!

They are just waiting for the right moment now where they will launch the idea to the American people of a North American One Continent currency and they are betting the farm that we will accept it as a solution. So PLEASE. PLEASE don't let this happen Americans. Our constitution will be under attack, and eventually declared null and void.

Get the word out. DO SOMETHING. Let people know whats going on. Don't let our country fall apart. Don't let these F!ckers take away our freedoms and gain control over our planet. And it is our planet. It doesn't belong to them. We share it! Don't lose it to Evil. We can't ever let them do it guys. EVER!

uknow_me72
I agree we have to take control of part of this planet. I know a group already getting people and comming up with the ways to get in to the politcal system, legal system and already in small business togother and make a network that we only use. It will be a ban on their material and we will revolt on their system not by harm or fighting but by rejecting and using another. It is simple to get going we just need the "real" people on board. We can take over the corporation real easy if everyone is in on it.

Get the drift?

We need the real people in the posistions to step up and make the difference. We have to do it for everyone and that includes ourselves.

You know the system we live in and you all have atleast 1 idea how to make the world better. If we run the system we can actually use your idea because it is about is making life better for everyone and the smallest change is worth it as long as there is no negative.

ragesRemorse
There is no way i can get out of America before the shit hits the fan. What the hell am i gonna do? hmm...,

NuclearWinter
Well I have thought about it and our only hope is if all Americans be it black, white, hispanic, whatever, put aside our prejudices and join together against our corrupt government. Unless that happens though, our only hope may be the Pole-Shift. Which in my opinion can't get here soon enough.

Mr Parker
Originally posted by uknow_me72
I agree we have to take control of part of this planet. I know a group already getting people and comming up with the ways to get in to the politcal system, legal system and already in small business togother and make a network that we only use. It will be a ban on their material and we will revolt on their system not by harm or fighting but by rejecting and using another. It is simple to get going we just need the "real" people on board. We can take over the corporation real easy if everyone is in on it.

Get the drift?

We need the real people in the posistions to step up and make the difference. We have to do it for everyone and that includes ourselves.

You know the system we live in and you all have atleast 1 idea how to make the world better. If we run the system we can actually use your idea because it is about is making life better for everyone and the smallest change is worth it as long as there is no negative.

great to hear about that group you have getting together.

NuclearWinter
Whats going on at the Denver Airport?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjjIy1DO0gs&eurl

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gL2vnxVIH_0&eurl

NuclearWinter
Some have said that the Denver Airport is to be one of the main command centers for the New World Order.

Nobody seems to want to talk about what in the World that mural is doing there in the first place.

I think this is a subject that should be discussed openly with many different people from all around America.

How come none of the news media has covered this mural? Or the opening of the airport and some of it's components?

Why the secrecy? Whats going on here.......

Deano
scary place it seems.

remember the cassiopaen transcripts :P

Q: (L) What about a Denver airport Scandal?
A: New airport. Big, big, big, big scandal.
Q: (L) What kind of scandal?
A: Government.
Q: (L) Specifically what?
A: You will see. Dallas airport is secret base; Orlando too. Miami
Too.


Q: (L) What about Denver airport and how does it relate to
prophecies?
A: Denver reveals the government. Look for it. Pay attention.

NuclearWinter
Originally posted by Deano
scary place it seems.

remember the cassiopaen transcripts :P

Q: (L) What about a Denver airport Scandal?
A: New airport. Big, big, big, big scandal.
Q: (L) What kind of scandal?
A: Government.
Q: (L) Specifically what?
A: You will see. Dallas airport is secret base; Orlando too. Miami
Too.


Q: (L) What about Denver airport and how does it relate to
prophecies?
A: Denver reveals the government. Look for it. Pay attention.

You're not kidding Deano. I just wish the American media would go in there even just once, and cover the purpose of the airport, the purpose of the extra space, the purpose of the mural, the purpose of the shape of the airport (the nazi symbol), the purpose of the underground chambers, the purpose of the "New World Airport Commission". I wish they would. But they won't. And everyone here knows that they won't. So the only question left to ask is, why?

I wish they would talk to the artist, talk to the airport directors, ask them specifically why the mural was chosen, specifically why the layout of the airport was chosen, specifically why the extra space will be needed, or is needed, ect.

There is no other airport in the country which begs all of these questions. And has had so much attention drawn to it. So whats the problem?

People want answers. What hell is the problem?

NuclearWinter
Bill creates detention camps in U.S. for 'emergencies'

Sweeping, undefined purpose raises worries about military police state

February 01, 2009

Rep. Alcee L. Hastings, D-Fla., has introduced to the House of Representatives a new bill, H.R. 645, calling for the secretary of homeland security to establish no fewer than six national emergency centers for corralling civilians on military installations.

The proposed bill, which has received little mainstream media attention, appears designed to create the type of detention center that those concerned about use of the military in domestic affairs fear could be used as concentration camps for political dissidents, such as occurred in Nazi Germany.

The bill also appears to expand the president's emergency power, much as the executive order signed by President Bush on May 9, 2007, that, as WND reported, gave the president the authority to declare an emergency and take over the direction of all federal, state, local, territorial and tribal governments without even consulting Congress.

As WND also reported, DHS has awarded a $385 million contract to Houston-based KBR, Halliburton's former engineering and construction subsidiary, to build temporary detention centers on an "as-needed" basis in national emergency situations.

According to the text of the proposed bill, the purpose of the National Emergency Centers is "to provide temporary housing, medical, and humanitarian assistance to individuals and families dislocated due to an emergency or major disaster."

Three additional purposes are specified in the text of the proposed legislation:

* To provide centralized locations for the purposes of training and ensuring the coordination of federal, state and local first responders;

* To provide centralized locations to improve the coordination of preparedness, response and recovery efforts of government, private, not-for-profit entities and faith-based organizations;

* To meet other appropriate needs, as defined by the secretary of homeland security.

The broad specifications of the bill's language, however, contribute to concern that the "national emergency" purpose could be utilized by the secretary of homeland security to include any kind of situation the government wants to contain or otherwise control.

Rep. Hastings created controversy during the 2008 presidential campaign with his provocative comments concerning Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin.

"If Sarah Palin isn't enough of a reason for you to get over whatever your problem is with Barack Obama, then you damn well had better pay attention," Hastings said, as reported by ABC News. "Anybody toting guns and stripping moose don't care too much about what they do with Jews and blacks. So, you just think this through."

H.R. 645, which seeks to allocate $360 million for developing the emergency centers, has been referred to the House Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure and to the Committee on Armed Services.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=87757

NuclearWinter
Coffins for American citizens? The Rounding up of people like cattle? Watch this with an open mind:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qMr-HC39ig&feature=related

NuclearWinter
The NSC, Military Checkpoints & Yes Glenn Beck, FEMA Camps are Real

Tuesday, April 7, 2009

http://www.prisonplanet.com/the-nsc-military-checkpoints-yes-glenn-beck-fema-camps-are-real.html

LDHZenkai
Lol you seriously need to get some help for your paranoia. Did you ever actually read the bill? Or do you just assume everyones lying? In case you didn't read it here you go:
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h111-645

NuclearWinter
Originally posted by LDHZenkai
Lol you seriously need to get some help for your paranoia. Did you ever actually read the bill? Or do you just assume everyones lying? In case you didn't read it here you go:
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h111-645

Considering that my link was to a World Net Daily news report that I didn't even write that talks about the evil potential behind this bill, I will just disregard what you have said above.

NuclearWinter
Glenn Beck on Fox News states on the air that he can not debunk FEMA concentration camps for American citizens:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuPttI8uRyM&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fenjoyingthejourney.blogspot.com%2F2009%2F03%2Ffema-camps-i-cant-debunk-them-glen-beck.html&feature=player_embedded

jaden101
Originally posted by NuclearWinter
Glenn Beck on Fox News states on the air that he can not debunk FEMA concentration camps for American citizens:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuPttI8uRyM&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fenjoyingthejourney.blogspot.com%2F2009%2F03%2Ffema-camps-i-cant-debunk-them-glen-beck.html&feature=player_embedded

Of course he does, now that Obama is in charge of them.

ChakraStrings
I've akways thought the U.S. Government would eventually stray towards fascism, but this is slightly... odd.
They're saying that these camps will be used for what, keeping people in during crisis? It all seems, odd.

NuclearWinter

NuclearWinter
FEMA Concentration Camps:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGtb5oLOhP8&feature=related (1)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3MSuZA4HBE&feature=related (2)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNqW1Dc_dj8&feature=related (3)

edisonik
It is very simple , there is a catastrophy coming to planet Earth, a 2012 Poleshift is coming and the camps are preparing so when that day comes they can dispose of you and your famillies accordingly.

Isn't that funny , you work your tail off and running like a Hamster in a training wheel all your life so that you can provide for your family and your life and these Governments are preparing for your eventual slaughter. Kind of like the swine that go to the slaughterhouse, they don't know they eat , get fat and follow the herd straight to the slaughter.

Prepare yourself for civil war , defend your families before it's too late.
Prepare youself for the eventual dictatorship and enslavement of US Citizens.

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