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No astro force in this battle.

Superman has become evil and thanos gets ahold of him before any other villian and persuade superman in joining him as a team. Darkseid hear about this duo and decides to tell a nemisis about this so that the two can team up to beat thanos and superman, he tell orion. Orion in disbelief ask darkseid to show him proof and darkseid teleport both to a planet that superman and thanos are causing mass destruction on.

Can darkseid and orion stop this before it gets worse.

No.

Team 1 7/10

Team one cant lose.

Yes 6/10

8/10 if they had the astro force

team 1

Superman? Pffftttt....

1. http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/SupBatGen3-010-20.jpg
2. http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/SupBatGen3-010-21.jpg
3. http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/SupBatGen3-010-22.jpg

Team 2 9/10

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Superman? Pffftttt....

1. http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/SupBatGen3-010-20.jpg
2. http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/SupBatGen3-010-21.jpg
3. http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/SupBatGen3-010-22.jpg



Where's that from?

Originally posted by Bad Ash231
Where's that from?

Superman/Batman Generations #10
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Also from JLA: Another Nail

1. http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/013-JLAAnotherNail001Rembrandt-DCP.jpg
2. http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/014-JLAAnotherNail001Rembrandt-DCP.jpg
3. http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/015-JLAAnotherNail001Rembrandt-DCP.jpg
4. http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/017-JLAAnotherNail001Rembrandt-DCP.jpg
5. http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/018-JLAAnotherNail001Rembrandt-DCP.jpg

Their both Elseworld stories

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Superman/Batman Generations #10
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Also from JLA: Another Nail

1. http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/013-JLAAnotherNail001Rembrandt-DCP.jpg
2. http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/014-JLAAnotherNail001Rembrandt-DCP.jpg
3. http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/015-JLAAnotherNail001Rembrandt-DCP.jpg
4. http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/017-JLAAnotherNail001Rembrandt-DCP.jpg
5. http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/018-JLAAnotherNail001Rembrandt-DCP.jpg

Their both Elseworld stories

Yeah, those out of continuity stories are the best place to go for Darkseid actually accomplishing something. crackers

That's it? pfft

Originally posted by Bad Ash231
That's it? pfft

Like I said I don't want to spoil anything till I'm done , not sure if I will wait till Countdown is over to post it

So far it already is the biggest respect thread I have done

Taking away Orion's super-powers is a pretty hefty hindrance in the fight.
Without the Astro-Force, he can't blast, transmute, dismantle, etc.
Hell the Astro-Force is even what powers his glider, so he can't fly without it. In fact, the glider itself is an extension of his astro-force altogether.

Which leaves Orion depowered save for slugging it out. Which is good, but hardly comparable to Supes at full power.

I'm going with team 1.

pray Respect to Mungi. God of respect threads.

Originally posted by Hazsekswthurmom
Team 2 9/10 I can see that you favor team 2 but even with Orion without his astro force?

Originally posted by quanchi112
I can see that you favor team 2 but even with Orion without his astro force? Ds>Thanos and Superman.

Originally posted by Hazsekswthurmom
Ds>Thanos and Superman. Superman can beat Darkseid on his own. I dont know where you get this stuff. Last time they met Ds fled the scene.

Originally posted by Hazsekswthurmom
Ds>Thanos and Superman.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y37/Nightmareman95/HAL10WEEN/bushdoor.png

Originally posted by Bad Ash231
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y37/Nightmareman95/HAL10WEEN/bushdoor.png

Originally posted by quanchi112
Superman can beat Darkseid on his own. I dont know where you get this stuff. Last time they met Ds fled the scene. Darkseid has beaten Supes with ease, aswell people whom has beaten Superman. He's a non factor. Thanos cant fly, manipulate time, death, reality, nor create beings of great power. Plus He's probally not as strong as Superman, whom Ds has beaten before in h2h. But being as stubborn as you are, you'll flat out ignore evidence and drag it out to a stupid ass argument. Originally posted by quanchi112 I love how the only time you ever laugh, is when a poster whom oposes is insulted. ****ing hypocrite. Your always trying to pretend like your some kind of peace keeper. It's only alright when someone jumps on a person that dislikes you, but when your attacked you resort to covering your ass with bs. Please stop pretending, everyone knows what you really are.

Originally posted by Hazsekswthurmom
Darkseid has beaten Supes with ease, aswell people whom has beaten Superman. He's a non factor. Thanos cant fly, manipulate time, death, reality, nor create beings of great power. Plus He's probally not as strong as Superman, whom Ds has beaten before in h2h. But being as stubborn as you are, you'll flat out ignore evidence and drag it out to a stupid ass argument. I love how the only time you ever laugh, is when a poster whom oposes is insulted. ****ing hypocrite. Your always trying to pretend like your some kind of peace keeper. It's only alright when someone jumps on a person that dislikes you, but when your attacked you resort to covering your ass with bs. Please stop pretending, everyone knows what you really are. Supes has beaten Darkseid in a duel,thrown him into the source wall,made him evacuate the scene. You must be referring to Darkseid beating him a long time ago. It hasnt happened for a while so for you to call him a nonfactor is wrong on so many levels. Doomsday couldnt fly or manipulate all those things but that didnt stop him from handing Ds his ass. So theres your proof. Why didnt Ds just fly away?

I laughed at the picture someone posted. You used to post pics all the time to mock me and other posters from time to time. I dont post pics when people are debating to mock others. I laugh when I think they are funny but no I dont do it myself.

Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
Quite impressive.

Except for that one scan, most are refrences to these events. There isn't any gauge as to how powerful these alien gods are. A young Thanos lead an armada against Titan and conquered it. Eternals are not gods but they're pretty even with most god pantheons in terms of power.

Additionally, Darkseid wanted to be sure he could beat the Asgardians before attacking. Guy amasses all these alien gods power to try and pass Asgard in power? Either Asgard is that powerful or the New Gods is weak as hell.

Oh definetly, I'm not saying those feats are the be all be all feats. It was just a tease, for when I post the DS respect thread.

Naaaa....he wanted to attack Asgard himself after he absorbed the power of the other gods like when he took over Mt.Olympus and beat Hermes. The aliens wanted to destroy the universe because of Darkseid killing their gods, but DS didn't want that

1. http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/jkfw-05-10.jpg
2. http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/jkfw-05-11.jpg
3. http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/jkfw-05-12.jpg

Well it basically comes down to this, DS takes out Thanos and Supes takes out Orion. So in the end we are left with DS vs Supes again.

Originally posted by Hazsekswthurmom
Ds>Thanos and Superman.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Oh definetly, I'm not saying those feats are the be all be all feats. It was just a tease, for when I post the DS respect thread.

Naaaa....he wanted to attack Asgard himself after he absorbed the power of the other gods like when he took over Mt.Olympus and beat Hermes. The aliens wanted to destroy the universe because of Darkseid killing their gods, but DS didn't want that

1. http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/jkfw-05-10.jpg
2. http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/jkfw-05-11.jpg
3. http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/jkfw-05-12.jpg

Wait a sec. What's the next few panels? I remember hearing about Orion using the AF to absorb the energy from a universe destroying blast. is that it? Please find the rest and put it in his respect thread.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Wait a sec. What's the next few panels? I remember hearing about Orion using the AF to absorb the energy from a universe destroying blast. is that it? Please find the rest and put it in his respect thread.

This is describing the Oblivion Bomb:
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/jkfw-05-05.jpg

Remind me later, and I might upload the rest of the scans

I having trouble picturing Orion team up with his dad. ermm

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
I having trouble picturing Orion team up with his dad. ermm

http://youtube.com/watch?v=EjheiI0BFqg

I like that song. It has a good feeling to it. Something Orion and Darkseid would probably never share. Well....maybe if Suli hadn't been murdered by Desaad as per Heggra's orders.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Supes has beaten Darkseid in a duel,thrown him into the source wall,made him evacuate the scene.Lol at this bs. Your post remind me of my 4th grade essays. I and countless others had told you about those showings. Supes nailed Ds on the Source wall when he had a sun amp and Sun amp Supes would embarass Thanos. Darkseid evacuated when the planet he was on, was being pulled in by the Source. Superman had nothing to do with that. Supes only has two clean wins over Seid and that doesn't put him in his weight class. Deny it all you won't but Ds has delt with stronger opponents than Supes, and tossed them aside like garbage. Rather he beat him recently or not, is irrelevent. Darkseid throughout his ENTIRE history, has pwned Supes and beings more powerful than him, possibly more so than Thanos. Yes even recently Ds continues to own top tiers beyond Superman. Lol at you being that dense. That is quite possibly sorriest retort a human being could ever think up. Darkseid killed DD and he evolved. After that he hits him from behind. This is a pathetic example for more reasons than the ones listed above, but I'm not going to get into that.

Ok....what you just said had NOTHING to do with the point I was making. The only time you ever laugh is when someone insults(or flat out bashes for no reason) someone who dislkes you. It's very obvious that your trying to instigate something, I've seen you do it numerous times. It's not only childish, but hypocritical on your behalf. Your always trying to pretend like your some kind of innocent nice guy.

Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
Proves he is more powerful than Superman first.

Originally posted by Hazsekswthurmom
Lol at this bs. Your post remind me of my 4th grade essays. I and countless others had told you about those showings. Supes nailed Ds on the Source wall when he had a sun amp and Sun amp Supes would embarass Thanos. Darkseid evacuated when the planet he was on, was being pulled in by the Source. Superman had nothing to do with that. Supes only has two clean wins over Seid and that doesn't put him in his weight class. Deny it all you won't but Ds has delt with stronger opponents than Supes, and tossed them aside like garbage. Rather he beat him recently or not, is irrelevent. Darkseid throughout his ENTIRE history, has pwned Supes and beings more powerful than him, possibly more so than Thanos. Yes even recently Ds continues to own top tiers beyond Superman. Lol at you being that dense. That is quite possibly sorriest retort a human being could ever think up. Darkseid killed DD and he evolved. After that he hits him from behind. This is a pathetic example for more reasons than the ones listed above, but I'm not going to get into that.

Ok....what you just said had NOTHING to do with the point I was making. The only time you ever laugh is when someone insults(or flat out bashes for no reason) someone who dislkes you. It's very obvious that your trying to instigate something, I've seen you do it numerous times. It's not only childish, but hypocritical on your behalf. Your always trying to pretend like your some kind of innocent nice guy. Ok first off Supes took Darkseid to the sun. He already had him worked hence he took his ass from earth to the sun. He wasnt near the sun at the start of their battle but he laid Ds out and then carried his ass against his will to the sun. That is a huge difference.

Name the beings that are more powerful than Superman that he has owned. Supes has beaten more powerful foes than Darkseid has. Dominus ring a bell.

Darkseid did not kill Doomsday and you have no proof. Why didnt Darkseid use the flight the whole time against Doomsday if that is all that i t takes to beat him and keep Darkseid out of harms way. Supes tried flying away and he got nailed as Darkseid would have if he were to have tried that approach.

Apokolips now was one on one and Darkseid lost. Give me the year that Darkseid last beat Superman on his own.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Ok first off Supes took Darkseid to the sun. He already had him worked hence he took his ass from earth to the sun. He wasnt near the sun at the start of their battle but he laid Ds out and then carried his ass against his will to the sun. That is a huge difference.

Errrr? Superman already had Darkseid worked on Earth before he took him to the sun? Is that before or after Supergirl and Wonder Woman saved him

Before the sun fight, DS had Superman in serious trouble multiple times Also even recently Superman has shown to fly to the sun in literally a second

Originally posted by quanchi112

Name the beings that are more powerful than Superman that he has owned. Supes has beaten more powerful foes than Darkseid has. Dominus ring a bell.

Agogg, and the Source for starters

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Errrr? Superman already had Darkseid worked on Earth before he took him to the sun? Is that before or after Supergirl and Wonder Woman saved him

Before the sun fight, DS had Superman in serious trouble multiple times Also even recently Superman has shown to fly to the sun in literally a second



Agogg, and the Source for starters Well......Ds cheapshotted him from the start of the fight. The guy was hiding in the barn. Ds tried to leave and Supes stopped him. Supes threw WW off and took Ds where he would be one on one where he finished him.



When was the last time Agogg made an apperance. It seems your argument hinges on 15 year old feats. Ds was more powerful back then in the writers eyes as things have obviously changed.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Well......Ds cheapshotted him from the start of the fight. The guy was hiding in the barn. Ds tried to leave and Supes stopped him. Supes threw WW off and took Ds where he would be one on one where he finished him.

That he did, and so much for Superman's super senses eh? Also it's revealed later Superman knew DS was coming and prepared for the fight

Yeah he was leaving, and then Superman cheap shooted him , Even after that SM did a speed blitz on DS which he quickly batted and then shot out the Omega Beams forcing Wonder Woman to save him.

Superman took him to the sun to get his boost in power, as Superman was in serious trouble before that. Just before Superman took him to the sun we see Wonder Woman flying out of the barn from a DS punch

Originally posted by quanchi112
When was the last time Agogg made an apperance. It seems your argument hinges on 15 year old feats. Ds was more powerful back then in the writers eyes as things have obviously changed.

and yours hinders on out of context battles and what do you think DC is doing now? Even recently he owned Orion, Mister Miracle and Firestorm at the same time.

1. http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/RacerX-Firestorm35-p20.jpg
2. http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/RacerX-Firestorm35-p21.jpg
3. http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/RacerX-Firestorm35-p22.jpg

So Superman can do that right?

Originally posted by King_Mungi
That he did, and so much for Superman's super senses eh? Also it's revealed later Superman knew DS was coming and prepared for the fight

Yeah he was leaving, and then Superman cheap shooted him , Even after that SM did a speed blitz on DS which he quickly batted and then shot out the Omega Beams forcing Wonder Woman to save him.

Superman took him to the sun to get his boost in power, as Superman was in serious trouble before that. Just before Superman took him to the sun we see Wonder Woman flying out of the barn from a DS punch



and yours hinders on out of context battles and what do you think DC is doing now? Even recently he owned Orion, Mister Miracle and Firestorm at the same time. Supes was prepared but still didnt know Ds was lurking in the barn which still means it was a cheapshot.

How do you know Ds punched WW out of the barn and that it wasnt Supes safely throwing her out of harms way.

Even more recently Orion owned him in his tracks on his own planet.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Supes was prepared but still didnt know Ds was lurking in the barn which still means it was a cheapshot.

How do you know Ds punched WW out of the barn and that it wasnt Supes safely throwing her out of harms way.

Even more recently Orion owned him in his tracks on his own planet.

Yeah and I said it was, and later Superman cheapshoted him...ta da

That very well could have happened , but that sort of makes Superman an idiot as he throws WW away and then speedblitzes DS to the sun? why not skip the throw and go directly for the sun instantly removing the threat?

Ummm...what and when?

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Yeah and I said it was, and later Superman cheapshoted him...ta da

Very well could have happened, but that sort of makes Superman an idiot as he throws WW away and then speedblitzes DS to the sun? why not skip the throw and go directly for the sun instantly removing the threat?

Ummm...what and when? Superman told her to stay out of this and had her by the arm. It is far more likely he threw her out of the barn imo.

Supes didnt cheapshot him. Ds was leaving the battle and Superman didnt let him. A cheapshot is when your opponent's back is turned or when he comes out of nowhere and you dont even know he is there. A cheapshot isnt when someone decides they have had enough in the middle of the battle.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Superman told her to stay out of this and had her by the arm. It is far more likely he threw her out of the barn imo.

Supes didnt cheapshot him. Ds was leaving the battle and Superman didnt let him. A cheapshot is when your opponent's back is turned or when he comes out of nowhere and you dont even know he is there. A cheapshot isnt when someone decides they have had enough in the middle of the battle.

Yeah I edited my post and added ""

His back was turned to Superman and was walking away, if you attack someone who isn't fighting and is walking away THAT'S a cheap shot

Be sure to keep ppl aware of what DS is truly capable of Mungi, and I'll surely love to comment on your upcoming revamped Darkseid respect thread, hopefully well-organized just like all of your respect threads are and with feats not shown in the previous Darkseid respect thread. Anyway here, Darkseid and Orion can beat this team at least 6/10.

Oh don't you worry there is over 200 scans that wern't shown in the old respect thread.

Such as...

1. http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/Firstissuespecial_13_p11.jpg
2. http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/Firstissuespecial_13_p12.jpg

or

1. http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/The_Super-Team_Family15-13.jpg
2. http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/The_Super-Team_Family15-14.jpg

In all honesty this will be my biggest respect thread, as I'm typing all the stuff in MS Word right now and it's over 100 pages

Originally posted by Unnatural-POWER
I'm going with team 1.

Agreed.

Originally posted by Barbarian Shams
Be sure to keep ppl aware of what DS is truly capable of Mungi, and I'll surely love to comment on your upcoming revamped Darkseid respect thread, hopefully well-organized just like all of your respect threads are and with feats not shown in the previous Darkseid respect thread. Anyway here, Darkseid and Orion can beat this team at least 6/10. I see you favor that team but even without the astro force?

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Yeah I edited my post and added ""

His back was turned to Superman and was walking away, if you attack someone who isn't fighting and is walking away THAT'S a cheap shot No it isnt. Let me explain why. If you hide in my farmhouse and lunge at me out of nowhere and start a fight thats a cheapshot. But if you hit my girl and try to then talk smack and sa you are leaving then it isnt a cheapshot. The fight is already underway and you cant decide when you want it to end especially if you harm someone else thats close to me.

Originally posted by Estacado
Team 2 All we can do now is base our decisions on what is canon not what will be canon in 5 months or so. You cant base your decisions on this yet. You have no clue what will occur and have a writer just rambling about it without seeing a single comic book page.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No it isnt. Let me explain why. If you hide in my farmhouse and lunge at me out of nowhere and start a fight thats a cheapshot. But if you hit my girl and try to then talk smack and sa you are leaving then it isnt a cheapshot. The fight is already underway and you cant decide when you want it to end especially if you harm someone else thats close to me.

Not really Lets look at boxing. If you knock someone down from a punch and their clearly not in fighting back it's over, now when the boxer is walking away with his back to the opponent and then the person who was down hits the guy from behind... that's a cheap shot. People have lost their boxing licenses for the exact same thing. Attacking anyone from behind no matter when is a cheap shot

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Not really Lets look at boxing. If you knock someone down from a punch and their clearly not in fighting back it's over, now when the boxer is walking away with his back to the opponent and then the person who was down hits the guy from behind... that's a cheap shot. People have lost their boxing licenses for the exact same thing. Attacking anyone from behind no matter when is a cheap shot Uhm this isnt boxing. Ds was leaving after Supergirl was supposedly taken out. Shame on him for trying to leave in the middle of the fight.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Uhm this isnt boxing. Ds was leaving after Supergirl was supposedly taken out. Shame on him for trying to leave in the middle of the fight.

It's an example, if you hit a person down to the ground and their not even making an attempt to fight back, it's over. So when your walking away you don't think that the guy crying on his kness is going to hit you from behind now are you? That's the very definition of a cheap shot

Originally posted by King_Mungi


1. http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/RacerX-Firestorm35-p20.jpg
2. http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/RacerX-Firestorm35-p21.jpg
3. http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/RacerX-Firestorm35-p22.jpg

So Superman can do that right?

I don't feel that Darkseid should look like a primed body-builder or have the typical human proportions for 'beauty.'

But I don't think he should be drawn as a fat-ass, either. What the hell? Did the artist think he'd look intimidating? ....

Originally posted by Soljer
I don't feel that Darkseid should look like a primed body-builder or have the typical human proportions for 'beauty.'

But I don't think he should be drawn as a fat-ass, either. What the hell? Did the artist think he'd look intimidating? ....

He also has manboobs in the second scan. ermmnone

Originally posted by King_Mungi
It's an example, if you hit a person down to the ground and their not even making an attempt to fight back, it's over. So when your walking away you don't think that the guy crying on his kness is going to hit you from behind now are you? That's the very definition of a cheap shot If you somehow get cheapshotted in the middle of the fight your a dumbass because there is a fight going on and once you engage in it it aint over till its over. Ds was in the middle of the fight and should have been more aware and got hit because he dropped his guard. Big mistake I would say.

Originally posted by quanchi112
If you somehow get cheapshotted in the middle of the fight your a dumbass because there is a fight going on and once you engage in it it aint over till its over. Ds was in the middle of the fight and should have been more aware and got hit because he dropped his guard. Big mistake I would say.

No the fight was over, if a person is kneeing on the ground crying and not making any indication of fighting the fight is over That's like a hitting an already knocked out opponent

Originally posted by King_Mungi
No the fight was over, if a person is kneeing on the ground crying and not making any indication of fighting the fight is over That's like a hitting an already knocked out opponent This isnt a gentlemans fight here. It is life or death sometimes in these fights. You bash your opponent until he cant hit you back or is unconscious or dead. Ds had no excuse. He turned his back on Doomsday. Its in his character to be overconfident and then get his ass kicked.

Originally posted by quanchi112
This isnt a gentlemans fight here. It is life or death sometimes in these fights. You bash your opponent until he cant hit you back or is unconscious or dead. Ds had no excuse. He turned his back on Doomsday. Its in his character to be overconfident and then get his ass kicked.

Yeah a gentlemen's fight doesn't hit someone on his knees crying, as that's not sportsman-like With Doomsday he thought he killed him, but with Superman he was in a crying mess...HUGE difference

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Yeah a gentlemen's fight doesn't hit someone on his knees crying, as that's not sportsman-like With Doomsday he thought he killed him, but with Superman he was in a crying mess...HUGE difference No....Darkseid is a villain and it isnt below him to attack an emotional Superman. Again the fight wasnt concluded and Ds cant decide when its time to stop. He made a big mistake and paid for it.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No....Darkseid is a villain and it isnt below him to attack an emotional Superman. Again the fight wasnt concluded and Ds cant decide when its time to stop. He made a big mistake and paid for it.

Ummm...what? Have you actually read any Darkseid? He has let countless heroes go, such as the JLA: International, Suicide Squad, Martian Manhunter, etc. as he notes there was no need to fight as it didn't serve a point. Basically your ignoring years of on-panel quotes and actions to fit your personal bias

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Ummm...what? Have you actually read any Darkseid? He has let countless heroes go, such as the JLA: International, Suicide Squad, Martian Manhunter, etc. as he notes there was no need to fight as it didn't serve a point. Basically your ignoring years of on-panel quotes and actions to fit your personal bias He came there to kill Superman. That was his sole purpose. Why do you think he was there. Did you read this story at all. Why must you constantly talk of other instances when it clearly states that he showed up to kill Superman. Basically your ignoring this story and focusing on other showings.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He came there to kill Superman. That was his sole purpose. Why do you think he was there. Did you read this story at all. Why must you constantly talk of other instances when it clearly states that he showed up to kill Superman. Basically your ignoring this story and focusing on other showings.

and he ended up "killing" Supergirl and was content with that and left. Have you read the story? Lulz...your asking me if I read it, did you miss the point he was happy he killed Supergirl and decided to leave? How am I ignoring the story, when you just left out the part he "killed" Supergirl and was happy with that and wanted to leave. Wow...simply wow, you really are a troll

Originally posted by King_Mungi
and he ended up "killing" Supergirl and was content with that and left. Have you read the story? Lulz...your asking me if I read it, did you miss the point he was happy he killed Supergirl and decided to leave? How am I ignoring the story, when you just left out the part he "killed" Supergirl and was happy with that and wanted to leave. Wow...simply wow, you really are a troll He didnt kill Supergirl. He was satisfied that this would indeed cause Superman pain but you cant expect Superman who lured Darkseid there and outsmarted him to let him leave after he picked a fight. Nope. Darkseid picked a fight and tried to leave....you make excuses for him and it gets utterly ridiculous. He started the fight with a cheapshot but you complain that Superman cheapshotted him. Quit being so biased.

team 1 6/10
if darkseid is classic he can do this alone

Originally posted by quanchi112
He didnt kill Supergirl. He was satisfied that this would indeed cause Superman pain but you cant expect Superman who lured Darkseid there and outsmarted him to let him leave after he picked a fight. Nope. Darkseid picked a fight and tried to leave....you make excuses for him and it gets utterly ridiculous. He started the fight with a cheapshot but you complain that Superman cheapshotted him. Quit being so biased.

Hence why I put "killed" in qutations, as he thought he DID kill her, but Wonder Woman teleported her out just in time and teleported ash in her place to fool Darkseid. Why do you keep ignoring context? Utterly ridiculous? haha as shown DS "killed" Supergirl that left Superman on his kness crying and not making an indication of fighting. This is what is shown and stated in the actual comics, but now you want to argue against on-panel events? Me being biased? notice how every one on this board calls you biased and a troll

Are you kidding me, Thanos is from Marvel, he solos those two, and the rest of New Genesis, and has The Source for desert. He's taken over the universe, that's why he always wins. So what if Orion took over the Universe too? Thanos looks cooler. He wins without trouble.
Plus, when Thanos is getting overpowered and runs from a battle like a pussy? He does it following a snarky remark, that's why he's the shit. Darkseid and Orion doing it looking like bitches.

I.....have seen the light How could I have been so wrong?

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Hence why I put "killed" in qutations, as he thought he DID kill her, but Wonder Woman teleported her out just in time and teleported ash in her place to fool Darkseid. Why do you keep ignoring context? Utterly ridiculous? haha as shown DS "killed" Supergirl that left Superman on his kness crying and not making an indication of fighting. This is what is shown and stated in the actual comics, but now you want to argue against on-panel events? Me being biased? notice how every one on this board calls you biased and a troll I am not ignoring context but it seems you are. I fully admit Superman had help in this fight. I fully admit Darkseid was set up and lured to fight Superman. I fully admit Ds started the fight with a cheapshot. I fully adnit Ds tried to leave and Superman hit him back. But I dont understand why you excuse Darkseid's cheapshot and then say Superman cheapshotted him after the fight had already begun. You act as if Superman did something wrong in preventing Ds from leaving the battle. In defending Darkseid you ignore and focus on his side only it seems.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I am not ignoring context but it seems you are. I fully admit Superman had help in this fight. I fully admit Darkseid was set up and lured to fight Superman. I fully admit Ds started the fight with a cheapshot. I fully adnit Ds tried to leave and Superman hit him back. But I dont understand why you excuse Darkseid's cheapshot and then say Superman cheapshotted him after the fight had already begun. You act as if Superman did something wrong in preventing Ds from leaving the battle. In defending Darkseid you ignore and focus on his side only it seems.

Actually at first you DIDN'T mention he had help, only referenced when he fought at the sun and said Superman was working DS over before he took him to the sun, which he didn't. How am I excusing DS cheap shot when I posted the scan and said he did cheap shot him? Ummm..what, and did you miss all the examples posted earlier? Superman was on his kness crying over Supergirl, he was making no indication of fighting what's so ever. That;s like hitting an already knocked out opponent. Please show me an instance DS has ever attacked someone when their guard was that low?

Thanos beats Orion, and Superman beats up Darkseid.
Team 1 ftw peaches

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Actually at first you DIDN'T mention he had help, only referenced when he fought at the sun and said Superman was working DS over before he took him to the sun, which he didn't. How am I excusing DS cheap shot when I posted the scan and said he did cheap shot him? Ummm..what, and did you miss all the examples posted earlier? Superman was on his kness crying over Supergirl, he was making no indication of fighting what's so ever. That;s like hitting an already knocked out opponent. Please show me an instance DS has ever attacked someone when their guard was that low? At the beginning of the fight Supes was just walking around and Ds came out of the barn like Jason Voorhess. He was stalking him. Your guard is never lower then when someone comes out of nowhere attacking you. Supes knew he was there when he was on his knees and if Ds attacked him then it would be Supes own damn fault.

Originally posted by quanchi112
At the beginning of the fight Supes was just walking around and Ds came out of the barn like Jason Voorhess. He was stalking him. Your guard is never lower then when someone comes out of nowhere attacking you. Supes knew he was there when he was on his knees and if Ds attacked him then it would be Supes own damn fault.

Yeah and SUperman knew he was coming and prepared to fight DS even before he popped out of the barn. Except as you mentioned it was a gentlemen's fight, you don't attack someone on his knees crying and basically with his entire guard down. DS has never done that to anyone ever, so why would he do that now?

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Yeah and SUperman knew he was coming and prepared to fight DS even before he popped out of the barn. Except as you mentioned it was a gentlemen's fight, you don't attack someone on his knees crying and basically with his entire guard down. DS has never done that to anyone ever, so why would he do that now? He knew somewhere he was coming. But if someones coming after me and I dont know where the are when they initially jump out to attack I wont be prepared for it.

In a gentlemans fight you dont jump out of a barn cheapshotting to start the fight now do you? Basically even though Ds cheapshotted at the start of the fight you want to give him a pass in the middle. ds didnt know Supes knew his dumb ass woul dcome for him so in his mind when he jumped out of the barn he intended to cheapshot Supes. Gotcha.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He knew somewhere he was coming. But if someones coming after me and I dont know where the are when they initially jump out to attack I wont be prepared for it.

In a gentlemans fight you dont jump out of a barn cheapshotting to start the fight now do you? Basically even though Ds cheapshotted at the start of the fight you want to give him a pass in the middle. ds didnt know Supes knew his dumb ass woul dcome for him so in his mind when he jumped out of the barn he intended to cheapshot Supes. Gotcha.

He didn't know when DS would attack, he knew DS would attack and prepared for it such as saving Supergirl with the teleporter as they knew before hand DS was coming, and as noted would help put Superman in the right frame of mind to fight

No you don't, but you said it was a gentlemen's fight so now your going back on that now? Oooook so like I said when has DS attacked anyone with their guard so low? or when someone was on their knees crying? Please give me examples, as you sure do expect Darkseid of doing such a thing. So no evidence again eh? suprize

Originally posted by King_Mungi
He didn't know when DS would attack, he knew DS would attack and prepared for it such as saving Supergirl with the teleporter as they knew before hand DS was coming, and as noted would help put Superman in the right frame of mind to fight

No you don't, but you said it was a gentlemen's fight so now your going back on that now? Oooook so like I said when has DS attacked anyone with their guard so low? or when someone was on their knees crying? Please give me examples, as you sure do expect Darkseid of doing such a thing. So no evidence again eh? suprize The whole point is that Darkseid intended on cheapshotting Superman.



Whether or not Supes prepared for it it doesnt matter, as Ds intended on catching him off guard.

Originally posted by quanchi112
The whole point is that Darkseid intended on cheapshotting Superman.

Whether or not Supes prepared for it it doesnt matter, as Ds intended on catching him off guard.

and he did cheap shot him, and then Superman did it to Darkseid..wowza

Not debating it, but your acting like Superman had no idea what was going on. He knew something was going to happen and prepared for it, and got help.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
and he did cheap shot him, and then Superman did it to Darkseid..wowza

Not debating it, but your acting like Superman had no idea what was going on. He knew something was going to happen and prepared for it, and got help. Your acting as if Darkseid wouldnt cheaphot him again when thats how he started the fight. I mean wow. Superman knew Ds was coming because they outsmarted his ass but he didnt know when and where. It is still a cheapshot.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Your acting as if Darkseid wouldnt cheaphot him again when thats how he started the fight. I mean wow. Superman knew Ds was coming because they outsmarted his ass but he didnt know when and where. It is still a cheapshot.

Now where did I even imply that? Please endulge me

Wow, so where did I say it wasn't a cheap-shot? but you also have to look into the context.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Now where did I even imply that? Please endulge me

Wow, so where did I say it wasn't a cheap-shot? but you also have to look into the context. You acted as if Darkseid wouldnt cheapshot him again and thats why he didnt hit him while he was down. the reason he didnt is because he wanted him to live with the pain of Supergirls death. Ds isnt above a cheapshot.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You acted as if Darkseid wouldnt cheapshot him again and thats why he didnt hit him while he was down. the reason he didnt is because he wanted him to live with the pain of Supergirls death. Ds isnt above a cheapshot.

So where did I imply that now? Where or where did I ever claim or even say DS will never cheap shot anyone ever again?

Originally posted by King_Mungi
So where did I imply that now? Where or where did I ever claim or even say DS will never cheap shot anyone ever again? You acted as if he never hit anyone with their guard that low. A cheapshot is worse than someone on their knees.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You acted as if he never hit anyone with their guard that low. A cheapshot is worse than someone on their knees.

Awesome, so where did I imply that or even state that now? Ummm...how? How is hitting someone on their knees crying not worse?

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Awesome, so where did I imply that or even state that now? Ummm...how? How is hitting someone on their knees crying not worse? Because hittong someone on their knees isnt as bad as hitting someone who doesnt even know your there. Ds kills people all the time and to say he would just stop because someone got tearyeyed and was on their knees is ridiculous. He stopped because he thought he caused Superman anguish due to the death of Supergirl.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Because hittong someone on their knees isnt as bad as hitting someone who doesnt even know your there. Ds kills people all the time and to say he would just stop because someone got tearyeyed and was on their knees is ridiculous. He stopped because he thought he caused Superman anguish due to the death of Supergirl.


Ummm...no it's not. Superman is a fighter and can take a hit, but when someone is upset that a family member died and is on their knees crying and you come over and hit them? that's not worse? Even if he did hit him while he was on his knees that to would be a sucker punch as he wouldn't have been expecting it as he was in his own remorseful world So like I said show me times DS has ever done that to anyone, don't tip toe around it as you usually do, show cases that it's in DS character as he has let people go instead of killing them as it served no point to do it

Case in point:
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/new_gods2_012_22_rougher.jpg

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Ummm...no it's not. Superman is a fighter and can take a hit, but when someone is upset that a family member died and is on their knees crying and you come over and hit them? that's not worse? Even if he did hit him while he was on his knees that to would be a sucker punch as he wouldn't have been expecting it as he was in his own remorseful world So like I said show me times DS has ever done that to anyone, don't tip toe around it as you usually do, show cases that it's in DS character as he has let people go instead of killing them as it served no point to do it

Case in point:
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/new_gods2_012_22_rougher.jpg Its not worse. Ds killed her and wasnt remorseful about it. Ds' whole point was to kill Superman and he failed again due to Supergirls interference. He changed his mind due to the fact that Superman would suffer not because he was on his knees.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Its not worse. Ds killed her and wasnt remorseful about it. Ds' whole point was to kill Superman and he failed again due to Supergirls interference. He changed his mind due to the fact that Superman would suffer not because he was on his knees.

and your flat out wrong, as attacking someone on their knees crying is a sucker punch and then some He didn't fail to do it, he killed Supergirl and was happy with that and left. So like I said where is your proof it's in character for DS to attack someone on their knees crying? Stop tip-toeing around it

Originally posted by King_Mungi
and your flat out wrong, as attacking someone on their knees crying is a sucker punch and then some He didn't fail to do it, he killed Supergirl and was happy with that and left. So like I said where is your proof it's in character for DS to attack someone on their knees crying? Stop tip-toeing around it During a fight if I get on my knees and sob and am hit thats my fault. If someone jumps out of a door and hits me when I dont know the are there its much worse because I wasnt even aware of their presence. You just said he doesnt kill anyone when theres no reason to but he showed up to eart to kill him. That was the whole reason and Supermans suffering was enough for Ds to leave and be happy about.

Originally posted by quanchi112
During a fight if I get on my knees and sob and am hit thats my fault. If someone jumps out of a door and hits me when I dont know the are there its much worse because I wasnt even aware of their presence. You just said he doesnt kill anyone when theres no reason to but he showed up to eart to kill him. That was the whole reason and Supermans suffering was enough for Ds to leave and be happy about.

Except Superman knew DS was going to attack and he prepared for it. Lulz...you keep bashing DS character, but he DIDN'T attack Superman on his knees and he has NEVER done that to anyone. Even the scan I posted showed DS doesn't want to deal with people crying and banished the human back to Earth. He wanted to kill Superman, but he "killed" Supergirl leaving Superman in a crumbled heap of remorse. It would have been far more tasteless to attack Superman in this condition. So like I said show me an instance of DS ever doing that to someone.

Your the master of the tip-toeing as you still havn't provided evidence, when has DS EVER attacked someone on their knees crying or when their guard was that low?

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Except Superman knew DS was going to attack and he prepared for it. Lulz...you keep bashing DS character, but he DIDN'T attack Superman on his knees and he has NEVER done that to anyone. Even the scan I posted showed DS doesn't want to deal with people crying and banished the human back to Earth. He wanted to kill Superman, but he "killed" Supergirl leaving Superman in a crumbled heap of remorse. It would have been far more tasteless to attack Superman in this condition. So like I said show me an instance of DS ever doing that to someone.

Your the master of the tip-toeing as you still havn't provided evidence, when has DS EVER attacked someone on their knees crying or when their guard was that low? Why cant you understand that Darkseid didnt know that Superman was expecting him so in Ds's mind it was a cheapshot. Darkseid isnt above a cheapshot and left Superman because this was far more evil to do to him. Why do I have to show you an instance when in this very fight Ds cheapshotted to start the fight.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Why cant you understand that Darkseid didnt know that Superman was expecting him so in Ds's mind it was a cheapshot. Darkseid isnt above a cheapshot and left Superman because this was far more evil to do to him. Why do I have to show you an instance when in this very fight Ds cheapshotted to start the fight.

Yes it was a cheap shot on a battle ready Superman, but when Superman was done and out over the death of Supergirl he left him alone as he has shown to do against others as it's beneth him to deal with a sniveling person. Fact.

So like I said show me an instance of when DS every attacked anyone the way Superman was.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Yes it was a cheap shot on a battle ready Superman, but when Superman was done and out over the death of Supergirl he left him alone as he has shown to do against others as it's beneth him to deal with a sniveling person. Fact.

So like I said show me an instance of when DS every attacked anyone the way Superman was. I remember Darkseid taking out a concubine in countdown because he confided in her. He cheapshotted a concubine while you claim he wont cheapshot an emotional Superman.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I remember Darkseid taking out a concubine in countdown because he confided in her. He cheapshotted a concubine while you claim he wont cheapshot an emotional Superman.

Umm..what? context much? She was killed as she spoke forwardly to Darkseid which he has killed Desaad, Granny Goodness, Kalibak for the same thing. Also that's some how comparable to attacking someone crying on their knees? Lulz?

Why are you two even arguing over this? Whether he left out of honor or to be evil really doesn't matter to how the fight went, and Loeb admitted he didn't know much about DS other than what he heard from Walter Simonson. I doubt he spent much time studying the essence of Darkseid's character. The bottom line is that DS was leaving, Superman suckered him, and DS easily countered when he attempted to capitalize on the sucker-punch. Why he was leaving doesn't really matter.

I will say in regards to Doomsday Year One that the narration makes it clear that a slugfest between them would've been a hell of a fight, and DS doesn't leave until Steppenwolf lets hm know the chemicals have been destroyed. Doomsday also turns his back and walks away rather than attempting to attack DS while his back is turned. They appeared equally respectful of each other in that instance.

Originally posted by Jimmy-Chan
Why are you two even arguing over this? Whether he left out of honor or to be evil really doesn't matter to how the fight went, and Loeb admitted he didn't know much about DS other than what he heard from Walter Simonson. I doubt he spent much time studying the essence of Darkseid's character. The bottom line is that DS was leaving, Superman suckered him, and DS easily countered when he attempted to capitalize on the sucker-punch. Why he was leaving doesn't really matter.

I will say in regards to Doomsday Year One that the narration makes it clear that a slugfest between them would've been a hell of a fight, and DS doesn't leave until Steppenwolf lets hm know the chemicals have been destroyed. Doomsday also turns his back and walks away rather than attempting to attack DS while his back is turned. They appeared equally respectful of each other in that instance.

Exactally to what I have been saying

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Umm..what? context much? She was killed as she spoke forwardly to Darkseid which he has killed Desaad, Granny Goodness, Kalibak for the same thing. Also that's some how comparable to attacking someone crying on their knees? Lulz? He killed one of his concubines by cheapshotting her. I kno wwhy he killed her but it doesnt change the fact he cheapshotted a concubine. That is much worse than attacking a crybaby in the middle of the fight.

Originally posted by Jimmy-Chan
Why are you two even arguing over this? Whether he left out of honor or to be evil really doesn't matter to how the fight went, and Loeb admitted he didn't know much about DS other than what he heard from Walter Simonson. I doubt he spent much time studying the essence of Darkseid's character. The bottom line is that DS was leaving, Superman suckered him, and DS easily countered when he attempted to capitalize on the sucker-punch. Why he was leaving doesn't really matter.

I will say in regards to Doomsday Year One that the narration makes it clear that a slugfest between them would've been a hell of a fight, and DS doesn't leave until Steppenwolf lets hm know the chemicals have been destroyed. Doomsday also turns his back and walks away rather than attempting to attack DS while his back is turned. They appeared equally respectful of each other in that instance. Ok...Superman sucked him says you but Darkseid suckered him to start the fight. I mean geez its ok for Ds to cheapshot but when Supes does it its unfair.

Ds still was ashamed of leaving that fight against Doomsday. Doomsday found him years later on his homeworld and curbstomped his homeworld.

Mungi... you have such patience.But seriously. It's okay. Everyone knows that quan doesnt know what hes talking about.

Originally posted by Sirius77
Mungi... you have such patience.But seriously. It's okay. Everyone knows that quan doesnt know what hes talking about. If you read the comic youd know I knew exactly what I was talking about. These lynch mob tactics really have no effect on me.

Its not a "lynch mob". You've just been proven wrong so many times that its pointless to say anything else... you're aguing pointlessness...

Originally posted by Sirius77
Its not a "lynch mob". You've just been proven wrong so many times that its pointless to say anything else... you're aguing pointlessness... When you read the comics in question get back to me. I know more about Prime than you do.

Originally posted by quanchi112
When you read the comics in question get back to me. I know more about Prime than you do.

You can't even interpret scans... much less read comics.

And no. You don't. In fact, when it comes to dc, you know nothing.

Originally posted by Sirius77
You can't even interpret scans... much less read comics.

And no. You don't. In fact, when it comes to dc, you know nothing. You went on and on about how Mxy didnt have his powers taken away. Then you told me Prime killed Superboy. I mean Prime is your favorite character and you seem confused about him and what hes done. He doesnt have that many appearances to keep track of.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You went on and on about how Mxy didnt have his powers taken away. Then you told me Prime killed Superboy. I mean Prime is your favorite character and you seem confused about him and what hes done. He doesnt have that many appearances to keep track of.

I never said that he didnt have his powers taken away. I just said that they werent completely gone. And also, technically, Superman-prime did kill Superoy. It was the force of Superman-primes ridiculously invulnerable body that did the job. The tower helped. Notice how wonder girl and NIGHTWING survived it.

And as always, you have no idea what you're talking about.

Originally posted by Sirius77
I never said that he didnt have his powers taken away. I just said that they werent completely gone. And also, technically, Superman-prime did kill Superoy. It was the force of Superman-primes ridiculously invulnerable body that did the job. The tower helped. Notice how wonder girl and NIGHTWING survived it.

And as always, you have no idea what you're talking about. The tower killed him. What in the world are you talking about? What does Primes body have to do with the towers explosion. Superboy threw him into the tower with him....it wasnt the other way around.

Originally posted by quanchi112
The tower killed him. What in the world are you talking about? What does Primes body have to do with the towers explosion.

The impact against Superman-primes body killed Superboy.

And what does the tower's explosion have to do with Superman-prime? He was knocked into it. And it exploded. Thats what.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Superboy threw him into the tower with him....it wasnt the other way around.

Correction. Superboy tackled him into the tower at top speed. Superman-prime hit the tower. Superboy died from the impact.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He killed one of his concubines by cheapshotting her. I kno wwhy he killed her but it doesnt change the fact he cheapshotted a concubine. That is much worse than attacking a crybaby in the middle of the fight.

Cheap shotted a concubine? Lulz, and no it's not as DS has killed people for talking forwardly to him in that manner, even Desaad knew she messed up right away :/

On-panel quotes and events contradict to what your saying

Originally posted by Sirius77
The impact against Superman-primes body killed Superboy.

And what does the tower's explosion have to do with Superman-prime? He was knocked into it. And it exploded. Thats what.



Correction. Superboy tackled him into the tower at top speed. Superman-prime hit the tower. Superboy died from the impact. The impact against Primes body killed him.

Sorry but you couldnt be any more wrong. It was the tower explosion. Prime has durability much greater than weak Superboy and thats why he survived and why Superboy died.