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Ripley has taken on hordes of the Xenomorphs. She has shown bravery, tact, and charisma in the face of terror. Her only wish is to go back home to Earth and live a normal life, but, unfortunately, Fate has a different plan for her. She will never stop battling the aliens.

Sarah Connor is a woman with one goal on her mind, and she is willing to do whatever it takes to accomplish that goal: to stop the Machines from taking over the Earth on Judgment Day. She has battled with terrifying cyborgs, the Terminators, from the distant future and prevailed, but with great loss.

This is a one-on-one fisticuff match. No gloves, no weapons, no rules. Which of these two badasses will knock each other out by using their battle skills and anger?

My vote goes to Ripley. Given the nature of the fight, I think Ripley would be better at hand-to-hand than Sarah.

Two excellent characters. I'd have to say Ripley would prolly beat Sarah in a fist fight.

Really? As much as I consider Ripley a badass, she had a lot of sci-fi weapons at hand to match her nerves. I feel that Sarah might have the edge since she is, in my opinion, borderline insane with an obsessive desire to see her mission through to the end and has had formal training from her lover, Kyle, and her friend Enrique, the ex-Green Beret.

Insanity leads to making mistakes.

Tell that to Batman. batman

Batman's obsessed, not to the point of insanity though.

I really think that Sarah Conner would kick her ass. I was never too impressed with Ripley. She always seemed like one of those characters with mediocre skills and a decent amount of luck to me.

Originally posted by Impediment
Ripley has taken on hordes of the Xenomorphs. She has shown bravery, tact, and charisma in the face of terror. Her only wish is to go back home to Earth and live a normal life, but, unfortunately, Fate has a different plan for her. She will never stop battling the aliens.

Sarah Connor is a woman with one goal on her mind, and she is willing to do whatever it takes to accomplish that goal: to stop the Machines from taking over the Earth on Judgment Day. She has battled with terrifying cyborgs, the Terminators, from the distant future and prevailed, but with great loss.

This is a one-on-one fisticuff match. No gloves, no weapons, no rules. Which of these two badasses will knock each other out by using their battle skills and anger? Connor PWNS Ripley, NO CONTEST. We ARE talking about the original Ripley, yes? from Aliens 1, 2 and 3?

Originally posted by Impediment
Really? As much as I consider Ripley a badass, she had a lot of sci-fi weapons at hand to match her nerves. I feel that Sarah might have the edge since she is, in my opinion, borderline insane with an obsessive desire to see her mission through to the end and has had formal training from her lover, Kyle, and her friend Enrique, the ex-Green Beret.


Ripley had plenty of training fighting all the Aliens and thus gained a better knowledge of them where she would be able to take of business. I agree with you Sarah had excellent training from Kyle and Enrique, but Ripley seems to me better at getting the job done whereas Sarah may not necessarily have a plan but will still get the job done

Being trained by a military man is no substitute for actually being in the military.

Still, Sara Connor was badass with guns, knives, and hand to hand. Ripley was only badass with a weapon in her hand.

Connor would beat the piss out of her.

Just the way Connor was in T-2, alone.

If you think about it, Ripley was not all that badass. In the first movie, she was a civilian who barely escaped a deadly alien. Second movie, same person, except she's surrounded by marines, with one of them spending a few minutes showing her how to use a rifle. Third movie, same person again, but now she doesn't have to worry about the rogue alien coming for her due to the queen inside her, otherwise she would've died in the med bay within the first third of the movie. When involving the aliens, all of those movies take place within the span of 2 days, more or less.

Sarah Conner started off pretty much the same in the first Terminator. But, while Ripley spent her time in-between movies in cryogenic stasis, Sarah spent her time learning about computers, firearms, basic combat, and other things, and teaching her son these things at the same time. And while the whole thing drove her crazy, she was still extremely smart, and focused.

When you consider all that, I'd say Sarah has a clear advantage over Ripley.

Originally posted by Strangelove
Being trained by a military man is no substitute for actually being in the military.

That's true, but the training alone is still invaluable, especially in the case of this thread.

Sarah wins.

Sarah PWNS Ripley.

Sarah Connor without a doubt.

No question, Sarah Connor

Sarah Connor would pwn Ripley, no doubt about it.

was there ever any doubt?

Sarah Connor- she's smarter, prepares for everything, and does more with less(technology).

the two tough biatches go at in a gunfight and then in a h2h fight. who wins?

Sarah rocks Ripley in both Scenario's. Unless this is the genetically altered Ripley from Aliens 4 she simply doesn't have any kind of chance. Well, unless you are giving her an M41-A Pulse Rifle of course. Sarah spent years training her body for combat and endurance. What little we saw of her fighting abilities suggests that she definitely knows how to throw and dodge a fist. Ripley, well she is not a fighter. She is nothing more than a pilot who has seen some shit. She has proven that she can use an assault rifle but not nearly as well as sarah Connor. Ripley did take out a couple Aliens with the assault rifle but other wise she was using the grenade launcher and flame thrower. Sarah's friend in the desert who had a small cache of weapons seemed to insinuate to me that Sarah had spent several years familiarizing herself with weapons and on how to use them.

Sara pwns Ripley in every aspect of combat.

Ripley's tough, but Sarah Conner's a flippin' monster.

Connor is HOT.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Connor is HOT.

No shes not.

Connor wins in both scenarios.

If we're talking about cloned Ripley, then she'll take it easily.

Originally posted by ragesRemorse
Sarah rocks Ripley in both Scenario's. Unless this is the genetically altered Ripley from Aliens 4 she simply doesn't have any kind of chance. Well, unless you are giving her an M41-A Pulse Rifle of course. Sarah spent years training her body for combat and endurance. What little we saw of her fighting abilities suggests that she definitely knows how to throw and dodge a fist. Ripley, well she is not a fighter. She is nothing more than a pilot who has seen some shit. She has proven that she can use an assault rifle but not nearly as well as sarah Connor. Ripley did take out a couple Aliens with the assault rifle but other wise she was using the grenade launcher and flame thrower. Sarah's friend in the desert who had a small cache of weapons seemed to insinuate to me that Sarah had spent several years familiarizing herself with weapons and on how to use them. You forgot to mention Sarah has better boobs.

Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
You forgot to mention Sarah has better boobs.

You mean shes the only one with boobs.

Yes, actually.

I mean, we have seen both of their chests. But only one set of breasts between them.

hysterical
Sarah was the hottest in Sarah Conner Chronicles. she's played by the lady who played Leonides' wife in 300

*ahem*

ah f-ck you

haermm

I agree though, unless Ripley gets lucky against Connor with that Pulse rifle/Flame unit combo first, she is aboslutely screwed against Connor.

And Connor is hot in the series. Its official.
And while Ripley is likable and even Sigorney Weaver would have to admit that she wasnt dressing for Dinner evenings, Ripleys only chance to be as hot as that is if said flame unit blows up in her face.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Connor is HOT.

Totally agreed.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/ec/Connor_t2.jpg

She's alright in TSCC, but in T2? Meow.

Too male for me, that era Connor.

Newer, as-aggressive-but-with-her-feminimity-intact LH/Connor is more my thing. Shes gorgeous.

ditto. T2 connor is just man-in-a-woman's body. i hate that retarded level of thinking that says that the only way for a woman to be tough is if she acts like a man. that's BS. TSCC is perfect because she's a tough woman...not skinny biatch trying to act like a man. heck, the one in T2 even made her voice deeper when she spoke. Lame.

~Sado

Originally posted by Toku King
Totally agreed.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/ec/Connor_t2.jpg

She's alright in TSCC, but in T2? Meow. droolio

Originally posted by Sado22
ditto. T2 connor is just man-in-a-woman's body. i hate that retarded level of thinking that says that the only way for a woman to be tough is if she acts like a man. that's BS. TSCC is perfect because she's a tough woman...not skinny biatch trying to act like a man. heck, the one in T2 even made her voice deeper when she spoke. Lame.

~Sado There is one essential flaw in your argument that you do not realise, one single, yet gargantuan, detail that you overlooked.

The Sarah Connor Cronicles sucked.

Merged.

Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
There is one essential flaw in your argument that you do not realise, one single, yet gargantuan, detail that you overlooked.

The Sarah Connor Cronicles sucked.

Non-conflict in ideaology.

Her hotness combined with that apparently she 'sucks'....
Kinda sounds like a plus to me...

stfu blasphemous asstard!


ditto droolio

Originally posted by Toku King
Totally agreed.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/ec/Connor_t2.jpg

She's alright in TSCC, but in T2? Meow.

Do people seriously find this to be attractive?

This is what's wrong with America's view of beauty. This what causes eating disorders.

Yup. And butch Lesbians, whom are bad for my enjoyment of porno.

No ass, no chest, if you take the shirt off her rib-cage is probably showing.

She's a man without a penis in that picture, nothing more nothing less.

With shoulders that look like they belong on a welterweight Thomas Hearnes.

You edit a lot.

I always hit enter out of habit before checking over and there are afterthoughts too of course...

It drives me up the wall...!!!





After a while it helps to just look at the edit message as a part of my sig.....

Give me this Sarah Conner over the T2 one any day!

http://innergeekdom.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/sarah-connor.jpg

Last edited by Sadako of Girth on Jan 7th, 2009 at 08:53 PM haermm

she's so beautiful...and tough. my kinda woman! kyle reese must've died one happy sonovabitch

Originally posted by celestialdemon
Give me this Sarah Conner over the T2 one any day!

http://innergeekdom.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/sarah-connor.jpg

Yup.

Now THATS what Im talking about.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Last edited by Sadako of Girth on Jan 7th, 2009 at 08:53 PM haermm

Heres another for ya... since you like em so much....

Oooh! Its a nine-fourty-twoer!

wait WTF just happened.....

Lol I notice that despite my efforts there, it in fact was a nine fourty fourer.

(Cue a close-up on Ellen Ripley from Aliens, armed with the Space Marines' battle rifle, looking badass...and pissed off to boot)

Ellen Ripley...

(Shots of Ripley gunning down Xenomorphs from Aliens)

...sole survivor of the Nostromo, slayer of the Xenomorphs on LV-426.

(Cue a close-up of Sarah Connor in her black combat uniform, holding a carbine...and pissed off as well)

Sarah Connor...

(Shots of Sarah Connor kicking ass and taking names from Terminator 2)

...the mother of John Connor, mankind's savior from Skynet and the machines.

Who...is...Deadliest?

Ripley's weapons are:

1. M41A Pulse Rifle
2. M4A3 Pistol
3. Hicks's Shotgun

Sarah's weapons are:

1. M16 Assault Rifle with M203 Grenade Launcher Attachment
2. Browning M1911 pistol
3. 1887 Winchester shotgun (Arnold's shotgun from T2)

Scenario:

Gunnison, Colorado (where Alien vs Predator: Requirem takes place).

Ellen Ripley has just eradicated a number of Xenomorphs with her flamethrower, but she is out of fuel. At the same time, Sarah Connor is reloading the Winchester after using it to take out a Facehugger and two Xenos.

The two women round the corner and stop within five yards of each other. Sarah holsters the shotgun and pulls out her assault rifle, while Ripley drops the useless flamethrower and arms herself with the pulse rifle.

All hell is about to break loose.

Who wins?

ripley ftw

Sarah Connor. She's tougher, meaner, in better shape, and an all-around more badass. It also helps that she's actually been through combat training. Ripley just decided to become a hero and strap on some guns.

Besides, Terminators are alot more difficult to kill compared to Xenomorphs.

I think this has been done, and FTW Sarah Connor.

I believe I'll be changing my answer to Sarah

She went toe to toe with a terminator and won, epic pwnage. Sorry, Ripley.

Ripley ftw

crylaugh

I find a Xenomorph to be more deadly than a Terminator. When you kill a Terminator, they don't go and squirt acid blood at you and they don't bite off your face or impregnate you with an alien that will burst through your chest. Not to mention that Xenomorphs are tough to kill because they move around a lot and are very agile. Terminators walk slow and are easy to pick off because they can't dodge gun fire.

Ripley wins this.

Merged.

Originally posted by Nemesis X
I find a Xenomorph to be more deadly than a Terminator. When you kill a Terminator, they don't go and squirt acid blood at you and they don't bite off your face or impregnate you with an alien that will burst through your chest. Not to mention that Xenomorphs are tough to kill because they move around a lot and are very agile. Terminators walk slow and are easy to pick off because they can't dodge gun fire.

Ripley wins this.

And on the other side of the coin, a few bullets kills a xeno, whereas a Terminator can take a bullet to the face and keep on smiling, a pipe bomb, not to mention several rounds of gunfire. Pick your poison, I'll face a xeno anyday over a Terminator.


Sarah defeated the second terminator, the liquid dude, this alone puts her light years above Ripley. Not to mention pwning the first terminator.

Terminators shoot back too.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
And on the other side of the coin, a few bullets kills a xeno, whereas a Terminator can take a bullet to the face and keep on smiling, a pipe bomb, not to mention several rounds of gunfire. Pick your poison, I'll face a xeno anyday over a Terminator.


Sarah defeated the second terminator, the liquid dude, this alone puts her light years above Ripley. Not to mention pwning the first terminator.

You're missing the point. Shoot a Xeno and acid blood will come spraying out and if it hits you, you're screwed.

No she didn't. The Terminator (the good one) is the one who defeated the liquid dude by shooting a grenade at it. The explosion made the liquid terminator go flying in a pool of lava.

Originally posted by Nemesis X
I find a Xenomorph to be more deadly than a Terminator. When you kill a Terminator, they don't go and squirt acid blood at you and they don't bite off your face or impregnate you with an alien that will burst through your chest. Not to mention that Xenomorphs are tough to kill because they move around a lot and are very agile. Terminators walk slow and are easy to pick off because they can't dodge gun fire.

Ripley wins this.


Seconded

Originally posted by Nemesis X
You're missing the point. Shoot a Xeno and acid blood will come spraying out and if it hits you, you're screwed.

No she didn't. The Terminator (the good one) is the one who defeated the liquid dude by shooting a grenade at it. The explosion made the liquid terminator go flying in a pool of lava. So? A Terminator can SHOOT you from fifty feet away.

She held her own, if she had had only one more shotgun shell she would have pwned it. So let's say she has 1 1/2 terminator kills.


And she would rip Ripley a new vagina.

Although i've never actually seen Ripley fight anyone i think Sarah wins everytime. I still think Ripley is the better leader and i also think she'd be able to take down a Terminator. I'm not so sure that Sarah could take down a Xenomorph. Either way, Sarah tears Ripleys throat out.

Ripley, a better leader? You do realize that Sarah trained John become the leader of the human resistance, right?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Ripley, a better leader? You do realize that Sarah trained John become the leader of the human resistance, right?


I realize that thats what Terminator 2 wanted us to believe but then they made Terminator 3 and 4. After which, we learned that all Sarah Conner did was tell John that he is going to be the savior of mankind one day. The rest, he learned on his own. I thought Ripley showed far better decision making under pressure.

Originally posted by jinXed by JaNx
I realize that thats what Terminator 2 wanted us to believe but then they made Terminator 3 and 4. After which, we learned that all Sarah Conner did was tell John that he is going to be the savior of mankind one day. The rest, he learned on his own. I thought Ripley showed far better decision making under pressure. She prepared John for it, thats leadership training yo.

I would like to see Ripley escape from her hospital room like Sarah did.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
She prepared John for it, thats leadership training yo.

I would like to see Ripley escape from her hospital room like Sarah did.


She didn't prepare John for squat. John was a scared little girl in Terminator 3. He just lived out a self fulfilling prophecy. It would have been nice to see the latter two movies follow the story-line that was set in Terminator 2 but unfortunately that wasn't the case and everything that Terminator 2 established was made irrelevant. I mean, we learn in, T4 that John really isn't that important at all lol


I don't know. I think Ripley could have escaped from her hospital room, considering the staff were oblivious idiots. All she did was make a lockpick. Ripley is incredibly intelligent, i'm sure she could have figured that out.

Originally posted by jinXed by JaNx
She didn't prepare John for squat. John was a scared little girl in Terminator 3. He just lived out a self fulfilling prophecy. It would have been nice to see the latter two movies follow the story-line that was set in Terminator 2 but unfortunately that wasn't the case and everything that Terminator 2 established was made irrelevant. I mean, we learn in, T4 that John really isn't that important at all lol


I don't know. I think Ripley could have escaped from her hospital room, considering the staff were oblivious idiots. All she did was make a lockpick. Ripley is incredibly intelligent, i'm sure she could have figured that out. Dude, Ripley is never shown doing anything like that, plus the fighting.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Dude, Ripley is never shown doing anything like that, plus the fighting.

So, she can pilot spaceships and military vehicles and kill intergalactic Aliens but she can't figure out how to straighten a paper clip?


i'm just fookin with you now

Originally posted by jinXed by JaNx
So, she can pilot spaceships and military vehicles and kill intergalactic Aliens but she can't figure out how to straighten a paper clip?


i'm just fookin with you now The impressive part was what she did AFTER the paperclip.

Sarah Connor would've gotten screwed if a Terminator didn't help her out against the liquid one so I don't call her a badass, I call her the woman with a badass robot. Sarah has mostly ran from Terminators and only got lucky she destroyed one just by luring it underneath a crusher or whatever the heck you call it.

Ripley fought Xenomorphs head on and even fought an Alien Queen which is the strongest and most deadliest Xenomorph of its kind.

Ripley fought the xenos in one movie for like five minutes, that's her claim to badassery. She had a few minutes of weapons training, whereas Connor has years. Better trained=More badass.

Connor fought and destroyed terminators, evaded police, was captured, escaped, and had the T2 beat. She kicked ass for years, whereas Ripley kicked ass for one damn movie, for a few minutes.

AND Connor held on with leukemia for two years making sure judgement day didnt come.

If they go at it gun to gun or h2h, Ripley is gonna get pwned.


BTW, Ripley didnt fight the alien queen head on, the loader did, Ripley was a good loader operator, thats all.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
The impressive part was what she did AFTER the paperclip.


Yeah, well i would like to see Sarah Conner escape and defeat the Alien the way Ripley did in the end of Alien. Upon their first encounters Ripley was more in control collected. Ripley didn't lose her shit like Conner did against the Terminator. Ripley took control and killed the Xenomorph...,Sarah got extremely lucky.

Weapons training is irrelevant when it comes to leadership, besides, it's not hard to point and shoot a gun

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi


BTW, Ripley didnt fight the alien queen head on, the loader did, Ripley was a good loader operator, thats all.


By that logic, Conner never fought a Terminator head on. She was simply a good at pulling the trigger of a grenade launcher

Originally posted by jinXed by JaNx
Yeah, well i would like to see Sarah Conner escape and defeat the Alien the way Ripley did in the end of Alien. Upon their first encounters Ripley was more in control collected. Ripley didn't lose her shit like Conner did against the Terminator. Ripley took control and killed the Xenomorph...,Sarah got extremely lucky.

Weapons training is irrelevant when it comes to leadership, besides, it's not hard to point and shoot a gun You give Sarah that gun Ripley had, and put John in Newt's place, and she pwns just as hard.

Originally posted by jinXed by JaNx
By that logic, Conner never fought a Terminator head on. She was simply a good at pulling the trigger of a grenade launcher No, what I mean is Ripley was protected the entire time by the frame of the loader.

Originally posted by Impediment
Ripley has taken on hordes of the Xenomorphs. She has shown bravery, tact, and charisma in the face of terror. Her only wish is to go back home to Earth and live a normal life, but, unfortunately, Fate has a different plan for her. She will never stop battling the aliens.

Sarah Connor is a woman with one goal on her mind, and she is willing to do whatever it takes to accomplish that goal: to stop the Machines from taking over the Earth on Judgment Day. She has battled with terrifying cyborgs, the Terminators, from the distant future and prevailed, but with great loss.

This is a one-on-one fisticuff match. No gloves, no weapons, no rules. Which of these two badasses will knock each other out by using their battle skills and anger?

OP says nothing of leadership anyway, it's a h2h battle. Ripley has zero h2h skills, Connor has h2h out the yazoo.

Connor FTW in a stomp.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
You give Sarah that gun Ripley had, and put John in Newt's place, and she pwns just as hard.

I meant the end of the first Alien but yeah, i agree. If Sarah has an M41-A pulse rifle she is definitely dropping some Xenomorphs.

What did Ripley really do at the end of the first Alien? Didnt impress me much.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
No, what I mean is Ripley was protected the entire time by the frame of the loader.

Fair enough, i can get behind that but it required major skill, strength and quick thinking on Ripleys part to kill the Queen.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
What did Ripley really do at the end of the first Alien? Didnt impress me much.

hid in a space suit

Exactly. Hid in a space suit.

yeah but she did it whilst wearing a thong and hey, she eventually pressed the air lock button

Wait, she pressed a button? WELL that changes everything