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Who would win this battle if if took place in a contained pocket universe?

Scathan

Scathan easily.

So Scathan could beat Galactus to the point that he looked like he was mugging him? Anyone remember the question Krona asked Galactus as he beat the truth out of him?

Krona has an immense power, but Scathan is on a different level and as powerful as Krona is, Scathan still takes this easily.

Scathan

Scathan the Approver FTW

Originally posted by CaptainStoic
So Scathan could beat Galactus to the point that he looked like he was mugging him? Anyone remember the question Krona asked Galactus as he beat the truth out of him?

Scathan would beat Galactus waay worse then that.

When Protege took LT's powers he was stomping all the abstracts including eternity, then Scathan wtfpwned Protege

Scathan doesn't approve

Scathan wins

Scathan wins.

I think we all know who wins and it's not Krona.

The Silent Celestial ftw.

Krona was powerful enough to challenge the most powerful artifacts in the DC and Marvel universe's, how would Scathan survive? The only way I see him surviving is if he tells Krona the answer in which he seeks.

Honestly though, I really had a good laugh when he asked Galactus to tell him the answer.

Scathan... probably.

Scathan clears with everyone, except with supreme beings such as TOAA or The Presence. Krona was extremely powerful, but Scathan would make it look easy.

Originally posted by CaptainStoic

Krona was powerful enough to challenge the most powerful artifacts in the DC and Marvel universe's,
Meh, in that asinine cross-over.
In any case, he defeats the most powerful items,
then gets owned by Hawkeye and Flash.

We should never use cross-overs (that do not adhere to continuity) to debate Stoic,
true, DC on panel made their involvement in this arc canon within their reality,
but that doesn't change the cosmological disaster of the story.

Originally posted by CaptainStoic
Krona was powerful enough to challenge the most powerful artifacts in the DC and Marvel universe's, how would Scathan survive?

And which artifact in MU could give even a slight challenge to Scathan?
No artifact could give slight challenge also to Protege, not even close.
THOTI is an exception, but Krona would also be a joke against it and against Scathan. When you don't struggle against Protege, it's a different story and level. And also Protege would clear with Krona.

Originally posted by CaptainStoic
So Scathan could beat Galactus to the point that he looked like he was mugging him? Anyone remember the question Krona asked Galactus as he beat the truth out of him? Crossover , Krono is hardly that powerful in the DC universe.

Scathan wins easily.

meh, krona was capable of wiping out universes, as well as humiliating the likes of grandmaster and galactus - before he gained the power of items such as the spear of destiny, infinity gems, UN, cosmic cube, etc.

So your saying Krona > LT? ROFL

Originally posted by Aster Phoenix
So your saying Krona > LT? ROFL can you point out where i said that? please do.

Read your last post, If your claiming that Koran can take Scathan your putting him on LT level. LMAO

Pay attention, he never actually said that Krona would win.

Originally posted by Aster Phoenix
Read your last post, If your claiming that Koran can take Scathan your putting him on LT level. LMAO yes, read my post. did i claim krona could take scathan? did i put him on LT level?

read, absorb, comprehend.

Originally posted by Galan007
meh, krona was capable of wiping out universes, as well as humiliating the likes of grandmaster and galactus - before he gained the power of items such as the spear of destiny, infinity gems, UN, cosmic cube, etc.

^ Well this isn't exactly a ringing endorsement for Scathan now is it?

Originally posted by Aster Phoenix
^ Well this isn't exactly a ringing endorsement for Scathan now is it? is remarking on a character's powerset the same thing as giving said character the win? i didn't think it was, but...

Originally posted by Aster Phoenix
^ Well this isn't exactly a ringing endorsement for Scathan now is it?
You know not everyone who posts facts is actually trying to start an argument.

Originally posted by Galan007
is remarking on a character's powerset the same thing as giving said character the win? i didn't think it was, but...

When someone says Scathan wins and your next post starts with "meh,..." And then you start listing the other guys powers and feats it does.

Originally posted by Aster Phoenix
When someone says Scathan wins and your next post starts with "meh,..." And then you start listing the other guys powers and feats it does. my initial post was not directed at what you, or others, had previously stated. if it were intended for such, surely i would have used the "quote button."

i merely stated facts regarding a character. nothing more, nothing less.

Originally posted by Galan007
my initial post was not any sort of response to what you, or others, previously stated. had it been intended for such, i would have surely used the "quote button."

i merely stated facts regarding a character. nothing more, nothing less.

Whatever floats your boat.

So who do you think wins?

Originally posted by Aster Phoenix
So who do you think wins? don't care, really.

Originally posted by Galan007
don't care, really.

Then why post in the thread? Why tout Krona's feats?

Originally posted by Aster Phoenix
Then why post in the thread? Why tout Krona's feats? why not?

Originally posted by Galan007
why not?
what purpose does it serve?

Originally posted by Aster Phoenix
what purpose does it serve? what purpose doesn't it serve?

Scathan isn't as powerful as the LT. for all we know, Scathan was as powerful as an Mbody of the LT. The LT exist in all multiverses simultaneously. At best, protege copied the powers of an M body multiversal LT body. So Scathan at best is multiversal. which is probably why that version of the LT had to use an amulet to power himself up.

Originally posted by Galan007
what purpose doesn't it serve?

Can you rephrase that as a grammatically correct sentence and stay on topic? Your trolling.

Originally posted by Aster Phoenix
Your trolling. are you upset that i'm taking your hobby away from you? in that case, i'll refrain.

Originally posted by Galan007
in that case, i'll refrain.
I sincerely doubt that.

Still trolling I see. Thank you for proving me right.

Any who argue with me shall be dubbed TROLL!!

This guy is a joke. at least he's a funny joke though haha

Originally posted by john allerdyce
Any who argue with me shall be dubbed TROLL!!

What an ironic statement.......

Originally posted by fangirl101

Scathan isn't as powerful as the LT. for all we know,

Scathan was as powerful as an Mbody of the LT.
Exactly what makes you think that makes the LT any weaker?

M-body's possess the full power of the Concept according to Anthropomorpho's bio.
(Anthro runs the M-body department)

That's the only information we have concerning the amount of power an M-body houses,
and,
it's simply, it's the full power of the the Abstract Concept it embodies.
Originally posted by fangirl101

The LT exist in all multiverses simultaneously.
At best, protege copied the powers of an M body multiversal LT body.
dontgetit
Originally posted by fangirl101

So Scathan at best is multiversal.
which is probably why that version of the LT had to use an amulet to power himself up.
Yea, when we make up our own rendition of the characters to fit our theories.

The fact is though,
Scathan was more powerful than the LT, on panel, and in the LT's bio,
the one and ONLY LT's bio, it clearly confirmed the events thereof.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Exactly what makes you think that makes the LT any weaker?

M-body's possess the full power of the Concept according to Anthropomorpho's bio.
(Anthro runs the M-body department)

That's the only information we have concerning the amount of power an M-body houses,
and,
it's simply, it's the full power of the the Abstract Concept it embodies.

I can think of two to three incidents where it has been hintered (more ore less indirect) that the M-bodies doesn't contain the full power of the hosts ore something like that.

Originally posted by Utrigita

I can think of two to three incidents where it has been hintered (more ore less indirect) that the M-bodies doesn't contain the full power of the hosts ore something like that.
Really, try and post it.

I bet that's not true,
you were swayed by the bias agenda minded trying to demean THOTI's feat.

On the otherhand,
let me know when you want to see the real proof
that confirms the M-bodies are the totality of the Concept's power.

I would love to but as you know my scanner (that I doesn't have) and me isn't the best of friends.

I can recall each situation though...

The first I think of was in the IG saga where Eternity is rambling something about his true form.

The second is in a comic where the Alpha Flight pwns Galactus, and then afterwards stats that we are only looking at a smaller version of his true being ore something like that.

The third will come...

Originally posted by Utrigita

The first I think of was in the IG saga
where Eternity is rambling something about his true form.
Has absolutely nothing to do with Eternity's M-body being weaker.

Eternity was referring to his totality, not his M-body,
the term M-body was never used, or hinted at.

He was also lying of course,
because Thanos stomped his ass when he came out gunz blazin.

Again, let me know when you wanna see my proof,
which isn't speculation or ambiguous statements,
it's straight up and down, in plain english:

"He (M-body) can assume a physical form for non-physical or abstract beings.
These forms have access to the full power of the original being" ...

period.
Originally posted by Utrigita

The second is in a comic where the Alpha Flight pwns Galactus, and then afterwards stats that we are only looking at a smaller version of his true being ore something like that.
Which has nothing to do with M-bodies.

Galactus is a physical being, he does not need to employ M-bodies,
he only does so in extreme cases
like when he wants to make an appearance somewhere when he can't physically.

So this is inconsequential.

Yes, I have the on panel proof for that also, let me know.
Originally posted by Utrigita

The third will come...
Haven't seen the first yet.

Just throw it all in

http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/29/dom1zt1.th.jpghttp://img523.imageshack.us/img523/7932/dom2wd6.th.jpg http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/4799/dom3ey5.th.jpg http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/4977/dom4cq4.th.jpg

Thank you for the lovely scans my brother.

And to ice that cake, here's Anthropomorpho's bio:

http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/anthropo.htm

powers & abilities:

"Like all natives of his realm (Fractals that form M-bodies)
He (Anthro/M-body) can assume a physical form for non-physical or abstract beings.
These forms have access to the full power of the original being"


You know you must be weary of the agenda minded usual suspects
they're out there, on the prowl, always on the take,
who can they fool, you know who they be. shifty

from what i gather, m-bodies can have either minimal power - which would be the case when only their presence is needed . or m-bodies can employ the full power of the entity they represent.

however, to say that m-bodies only represent a fraction of that beings power, is simply incorrect.

on a sidenote, Anthro is quite badass.

Originally posted by Galan007

from what i gather, m-bodies can have either minimal power - which would be the case when only their presence is needed . or m-bodies can employ the full power of the entity they represent.
Plausible & sensible, but the M-body's bio doesn't make a distinction,
so we have to assume it's the full power at all times, until further clarifications.

This is probably why LT was able to shunt the IG attack in a cosmic meeting. (court session)

Now, I agree with what you said 100% concerning physical beings that employ M-bodies.
In that case, it was stated to be just an appearance without the physical entity.
Originally posted by Galan007

however,

to say that m-bodies only/always represent a fraction of that beings power,

is simply incorrect.

Originally posted by Galan007

on a sidenote, Anthro is quite badass.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Now, I agree with what you said 100% concerning physical beings that employ M-bodies.
In that case, it was stated to be just an appearance without the physical entity. physical beings are what i was mainly talking about.

Originally posted by Galan007

physical beings are what i was mainly talking about.
Then, we're on the same boat. cheers

And I'm saying that Scathan has to be confined to that one universe or one multiverse or what ever. Since he is this powerful in this one instance and has never been seen in any multiversal conflicts before or since. And Scathan really seems to only disprove the omnipotence of The LT if he needs help beating a kid. And then he has to use an amulet to power himself up.

Originally posted by fangirl101

And I'm saying that Scathan has to be confined to that one universe
or one multiverse or what ever.
Since he is this powerful in this one instance
and has never been seen in any multiversal conflicts before or since.
Nah.

Beyonder stated "on the boy rests the fate of any and all realities"

http://s2d1.turboimagehost.com/t/736126_P5.jpg

...........................................................................


The writer gives us the reactions of the LT, Eternity, Scathan and Hawgod.

The LT's conclusion is ... "logical confirmation"

http://s2d1.turboimagehost.com/t/736127_P6.jpg


So the LT himself agrees!

...........................................................................


This story wasn't about "one universe or multiverse" ... but about all realities."

Originally posted by fangirl101

And Scathan really seems to only disprove the omnipotence of The LT
if he needs help beating a kid.

And then he has to use an amulet to power himself up.
That kid literally pumped fear into Eternity, that hasn't happened since classic Beyonder.

Also, it's in the destiny of Mankind to one day surpass the Abstracts including the LT,
Protege was just ahead of his time,
his birth was a blasphemy, they were trying to create God:

http://s2d1.turboimagehost.com/t/736505_Pro1.jpg

"The most powerful being ever conceived of mortal woman"

...........................................................................


Eternity and the LT said the same thing:

http://s2d1.turboimagehost.com/t/736508_Pro5.jpg

Eternity: "The Child has become aware"

LT: "And with awareness comes great power, Eternity"

Eternity: "Perhaps the greatest yet born to mortals"

LT: Or Immortals"

...........................................................................

good issues with scathan, living tribunal and protege

scathan ftw

Aster got pwned.

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Aster got pwned.

I don't think so, when you go against a Mod's pals, there's very little you can do.

Then don't go up against them.

Easy peasy.

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Then don't go up against them.

Easy peasy.

I don't think so, I don't let anyone push me around.

Then why post here if you don't want to follow the rules?

It's in the rules that I have to agree with his pals? Is that in the official rules or just an unwritten thing?

I kinda doubt they would've banned you for simply debating.

Read over the threads and see for yourself.

Any other questions, just PM me.

Scathan FTW!

Alright bro, fair enough.

Scathan for the rape.

Krona has all the power of those items on top of the power he had that was able to literally gut galactus and pwn his body. I've never seen big g beaten like that.

Originally posted by fangirl101
Put galactus and pwn his body. I've never seen big g beaten like that.

You make it sound like some sort of intergalactic porno.

In any event, Scathan was on at least LT level.

Originally posted by fangirl101
I've never seen big g beaten like that.

Abraxas?

Scathan wins

Originally posted by fangirl101
I've never seen big g beaten like that.
Be patient. Rulk hasn't fought him yet.






Scathan wins. Krona was at his most powerful during the JLA/Avengers crossover and the only four things I remember about that story are:

1) Cringing at the thought of Eternity and Kismet having sex.
2) Thor's magical hammer doing almost nothing to Superman (wtf?).
3) Superman using Mjolnir and Captain America's shield (also wtf?).
4) How gay Krona looked.

So, right. He loses. Because Scathan is made of awesome and full of win. If you need definitions for either of those terms, I'll happily pull quotes from 'Enyalus' Dictionary of Victory.'

Hey I need a quote! I demand the answer... TELL MEEEE.

Honestly though I see where Fangirl is coming from, LT never beat Warlock with the IG, Warlock stepped down on his own not wanting to mirror Thanos, and it took more objects of power than the IG to hold Krona. Is Scathan on that level? This question seems like the tootsie pop question, and the world may never know the answer.

I wonder if Krona could rip it out of Scathan?

Originally posted by CaptainStoic

LT never beat Warlock with the IG,

Warlock stepped down on his own not wanting to mirror Thanos,
To be fair,

LT actually did 1. Withstand a furious attack by an enraged Warlock/IG:

(which annihilated the hierarchy)

http://s2d1.turboimagehost.com/t/742918_w6jk3.jpg


LT also 2. Nullified the enraged Warlock/IG attack, and re-creates the hierarchy.

(all with a gesture)

http://s2d1.turboimagehost.com/t/742919_w7xt1.jpg

*** note ***

"Warlock had just saved the universe and thought he was deserving of the IG.
LT gave him a chance to give up his power.
It doesn't mean he couldn't have taken it away.
In the past,
he's given people chances to rectify problems before he takes action."

On top of that, LT's bio tells us that moment defined LT's superiority over the IG.

Which is why Warlock later said, he was ordered by the LT, and he obeyed,
because the "LT is a representative of one who is above Gods" ...

http://s2d1.turboimagehost.com/t/759091_ltorderswl0iy.jpg

But besides all this we also know LT de-powered the IG's collection,
and also powered up that same collection. Again proving his superiority.

(that's from Infinity War)
Originally posted by CaptainStoic

and it took more objects of power than the IG to hold Krona.
It only took Flash and Hawkeye to defeat Krona.

That cross-over was a joke friend,
it shouldn't take all that power (all the items combined) to hold Eternity/Kismet.
The IG alone is above Eternity, so is the UN, and on.

In that crossover, Eternity & Kismet are the sentience of one Multiverse,
within this one Multiverse, they create Universes.
That's also garbage, & a whole bunch of other silly errors, forget it,
I don't wanna get into it,
it disturbs me that Marvel whispered a sentence about this in a bio.
But that one sentence is so vague if you didn't know the intricate details,
you would have any idea what they're referring to since no names are mentioned.

Anywho, that's just imo. Peace and love yall.

Originally posted by Mr Master
To be fair,

LT actually did 1. Withstand a furious attack by an enraged Warlock/IG:

(which annihilated the hierarchy)

http://s2d1.turboimagehost.com/t/742918_w6jk3.jpg


LT also 2. Nullified the enraged Warlock/IG attack, and re-creates the hierarchy.

(all with a gesture)

http://s2d1.turboimagehost.com/t/742919_w7xt1.jpg

*** note ***

"Warlock had just saved the universe and thought he was deserving of the IG.
LT gave him a chance to give up his power.
It doesn't mean he couldn't have taken it away.
In the past,
he's given people chances to rectify problems before he takes action."

On top of that, LT's bio tells us that moment defined LT's superiority over the IG.

Which is why Warlock later said, he was ordered by the LT, and he obeyed,
because the "LT is a representative of one who is above Gods" ...

http://s2d1.turboimagehost.com/t/759091_ltorderswl0iy.jpg

But besides all this we also know LT de-powered the IG's collection,
and also powered up that same collection. Again proving his superiority.

(that's from Infinity War)

It only took Flash and Hawkeye to defeat Krona.

That cross-over was a joke friend,
it shouldn't take all that power (all the items combined) to hold Eternity/Kismet.
The IG alone is above Eternity, so is the UN, and on.

In that crossover, Eternity & Kismet are the sentience of one Multiverse,
within this one Multiverse, they create Universes.
That's also garbage, & a whole bunch of other silly errors, forget it,
I don't wanna get into it,
it disturbs me that Marvel whispered a sentence about this in a bio.
But that one sentence is so vague if you didn't know the intricate details,
you would have any idea what they're referring to since no names are mentioned.

Anywho, that's just imo. Peace and love yall.
Ha ha ha ha. This of course is all your own NON Factual summation of things. having nothing to do at all with what happened on panel. just more of your own view.

Originally posted by fangirl101

Ha ha ha ha.
This of course is all your own NON Factual summation of things.
having nothing to do at all with what happened on panel.
just more of your own view.
Ha ha ha ha.

Prove me wrong. ... otherwise ... stfu2

Originally posted by Mr Master
Ha ha ha ha.

Prove me wrong. ... otherwise ... stfu2
You didnt' even prove yourself right. please. Ha ha ha.

Originally posted by fangirl101

You didnt' even prove yourself right. please. Ha ha ha.
The expected wiggle, good move.

fangirl is smoking that bad granola again.