Vargas vs U-Foes

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golem370
Who wins?

U-Foes- http://www.marvel.com/universe/U-Foes

CaptainStoic
I'm leaning toward Vargas on this one, because he was able to defeat the entire X-Men. I assume that Vargas has prep and knows all of the U-Foes powers and weaknesses.

guy222
vargas loses

batdude123
Vargas gets shit stomped.

King_Mungi
Originally posted by batdude123
Vargas gets shit stomped.

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CaptainStoic
Those scans prove very little, The U-Foes took Hulk by surprise, and Vapors unique abilities are how they won.... why not show scans of The Hulk trouncing them when it wasn't a sneak attack? Vargas prepped would beat the hell out of them. Unless you can show me a weakness that Vargas has that could be exploited by the U-Foes, there really is no evidence that any of their attacks are more potent than Rogue holding onto Vargas for dear life. Vargas has amazing endurance,and it showed when he nearly killed the X-Men.

King_Mungi
Hulk and the U-Foes have exchanged wins, but I find it commical that your even attempting to put Vargas on Hulk;s level as their a Hulk level threat. Hell Vector reflected reality at one time erm

Does Vargas need to breath? Yes, so Vapour can attack inside. Can he take the punishment Professor Hulk took when Vector reduced him to a practically a skelton? Definetly not erm

batdude123
The very idea that Vargas could do anything to the U-Foes is hilarious.

Mr. Slippyfist
Originally posted by CaptainStoic
I'm leaning toward Vargas on this one, because he was able to defeat the entire X-Men. Well, I'm convinced. smile

CaptainStoic
Originally posted by King_Mungi
Hulk and the U-Foes have exchanged wins, but I find it commical that your even attempting to put Vargas on Hulk;s level as their a Hulk level threat. Hell Vector reflected reality at one time erm

Does Vargas need to breath? Yes, so Vapour can attack inside. Can he take the punishment Professor Hulk took when Vector reduced him to a practically a skelton? Definetly not erm

Vargas' level has never been determined, but from the way he cut a building down as easily as you or I could destroy a sand castle would indicate that he could wipe the floor with Ironclad at the very least.

Let me correct you for a second, they were a Hulk level threat, now they are an X-Men level threat.. don't believe me? Post a vs thread called... X-Men vs U-Foes and find out. Vargas was able to nearly kill the entire team with such ease that it was almost scary. Rogue was the PIS that brought him down.

King_Mungi
Originally posted by CaptainStoic
Vargas' level has never been determined, but from the way he cut a building down as easily as you or I could destroy a sand castle would indicate that he could wipe the floor with Ironclad at the very least.

Let me correct you for a second, they were a Hulk level threat, now they are an X-Men level threat.. don't believe me? Post a vs thread called... X-Men vs U-Foes and find out. Vargas was able to nearly kill the entire team with such ease that it was almost scary. Rogue was the PIS that brought him down.

Iron Clad is even debatable, but the rest of the U-Foes? not a chance

Ummm...what? soooo basically you really don't know what your talking about do you? Why are they an X-Men threat now, show me why the bump

CaptainStoic
Originally posted by King_Mungi
Iron Clad is even debatable, but the rest of the U-Foes? not a chance

Ummm...what? soooo basically you really don't know what your talking about do you? Why are they an X-Men threat now, show me why the bump

When I say that they were a Hulk level threat, what i meant was that they wouldn't last 10 minutes against the latest WWHulk. Which is why I put them on the X-Mens level if that, and we all saw how well The X-Men did against The Hulk. Vargas being able to resist Rogue and Psylocks powers may indicate that he could be equally as resistant to the U-Foes powerset.

I know fully well what I am speaking of. Perhaps it is you that is underestmating Vargas... Where in X-Treme X-Men, when Vargas made his appearance did you see a weakness that anyone on the U-Foes could exploit? If it weren't for Rogues unique abilities Vargas would have killed them all, which would have placed Vargas on a level that may not be as high a WWHulks but it would not be too far behind.

King_Mungi
Of course they wouldn't last against WWH, but would Vargas? No, so why even bring it up? Or do you generally think Vargas can take it to WWH? Because WWH would beat them that automatically make them X-Men level? Errrr?

Yeah I saw him fight and he killed Psylocke which shocked them, but have you seen what the U-foes have done? especially Vector? erm

SuperiorTech
Vargas didn't really fight the whole team he only took on Rogue, Beast and Betsy.He took Rogue by suprise and hit her from behind and didn't really give her anytime to recover.He also had two of his henchmen with him that betsy took out while Vargas fought beast he did take a full powered tk blast from betsy with seemingly no effect before he killed her though.Storm, Bishop, and Neal showed up when everything was over.

CaptainStoic
Originally posted by King_Mungi
Of course they wouldn't last against WWH, but would Vargas? No, so why even bring it up? Or do you generally think Vargas can take it to WWH? Because WWH would beat them that automatically make them X-Men level? Errrr?

Yeah I saw him fight and he killed Psylocke which shocked them, but have you seen what the U-foes have done? especially Vector? erm

Mungi you do realize that this is going to go no where fast right? Firstly Vargas only has high end showings that "seems" to place him at top tier, he has shown insane resistances to powers that have stopped Thor in his tracks (Rogues touch) to presume that Vectors powers could affect him would at best be a guess on either of our parts. Vargas has Superhuman speed who says Vector would see past 30 seconds??? You see what i mean? Until we see more of what Vargas is and his power limits he may just be able to go a few rounds with the Hulk.

King_Mungi
So like I said on-panel feats and what the U-Foes have actually shown to do...they stomp Vargas erm

CaptainStoic
Originally posted by King_Mungi
So like I said on-panel feats and what the U-Foes have actually shown to do...they stomp Vargas erm

Cool I think I'll play some Turok ciao!

King_Mungi
Originally posted by CaptainStoic
Cool I think I'll play some Turok ciao!

Oh wait, is that game good? I'm a huge Turok fan.

SuperiorTech
Originally posted by CaptainStoic
Mungi you do realize that this is going to go no where fast right? Firstly Vargas only has high end showings that "seems" to place him at top tier, he has shown insane resistances to powers that have stopped Thor in his tracks (Rogues touch) to presume that Vectors powers could affect him would at best be a guess on either of our parts. Vargas has Superhuman speed who says Vector would see past 30 seconds??? You see what i mean? Until we see more of what Vargas is and his power limits he may just be able to go a few rounds with the Hulk.

He was resistant to rogue's touch not immune she was still able to absorb his powers in thier final fight.Also he is has enhanced Agility and Reflexe's not super speed.I dont really see what he is gonna do to hurt vapor or stop her from doing to him what she did to hulk.

CaptainStoic
Originally posted by King_Mungi
Oh wait, is that game good? I'm a huge Turok fan.

It's pretty good bro, this is the best Turok ever IMO.

CaptainStoic
Originally posted by SuperiorTech
He was resistant to rogue's touch not immune she was still able to absorb his powers in thier final fight.Also he is has enhanced Agility and Reflexe's not super speed.I dont really see what he is gonna do to hurt vapor or stop her from doing to him what she did to hulk.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vargas_%28comics%29

it clearly says that he has super speed, super human strength, his feats definately put him above Wonderman, he seems like Wonderman done right.




Superhuman strength, speed, stamina, agility, and reflexes
Master swordsman and martial artist
Genius-level intellect

CaptainStoic
He's clearly a beast.

SuperiorTech
Originally posted by CaptainStoic
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vargas_%28comics%29

it clearly says that he has super speed, super human strength, his feats definately put him above Wonderman, he seems like Wonderman done right.




Superhuman strength, speed, stamina, agility, and reflexes
Master swordsman and martial artist
Genius-level intellect


Your using wikipedia as evidence....feats above Wonderman are you kidding me you acting like Vargas beat the Avengers or the Fantastic four.He beat Rogue, Beast, and Betsy this claim that you are making that he beat down the entire xtreme x-men team is false as Storm, Sage, Bishop, and Neal were not at the fight not to mention Vargas had two of his henchmen with him who fought during the battle.




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Notice that he cheap shots rogue from behind and notice beast mentions he has REACTIONS and AGILITY on par with the best of them if you can post me scans of vargas using super speed I welcome them.Also where are these feats the put him above wonderman he took a point blank tk blast from betsy and cut a building with his sword that then fell down and was resistant to rogue's touch.That puts him above wonderman?

You have yet to tell me how Vargas is going to hurt Vapor is he gonna cut her with his sword and he still needs to breath so I don't see how what is stopping her from doing to him what she did to hulk.Vector was able to flay most of the Hulk's skin and muscle tissue from his body don't see why he should not be able to hurt Vargas.Lastly I am not saying ironclad would beat Vargas but last time i look he was much stronger than rogue and most likely as durable.Thing is he cant hurt Vapor if she is in her gas form and niether Vector nor Xray have to get in close to use there powers the only one who has to get up close and personal is ironclad

CaptainStoic
Originally posted by SuperiorTech
Your using wikipedia as evidence....feats above Wonderman are you kidding me you acting like Vargas beat the Avengers or the Fantastic four.He beat Rogue, Beast, and Betsy this claim that you are making that he beat down the entire xtreme x-men team is false as Storm, Sage, Bishop, and Neal were not at the fight not to mention Vargas had two of his henchmen with him who fought during the battle.




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Notice that he cheap shots rogue from behind and notice beast mentions he has REACTIONS and AGILITY on par with the best of them if you can post me scans of vargas using super speed I welcome them.Also where are these feats the put him above wonderman he took a point blank tk blast from betsy and cut a building with his sword that then fell down and was resistant to rogue's touch.That puts him above wonderman?

You have yet to tell me how Vargas is going to hurt Vapor is he gonna cut her with his sword and he still needs to breath so I don't see how what is stopping her from doing to him what she did to hulk.Vector was able to flay most of the Hulk's skin and muscle tissue from his body don't see why he should not be able to hurt Vargas.Lastly I am not saying ironclad would beat Vargas but last time i look he was much stronger than rogue and most likely as durable.Thing is he cant hurt Vapor if she is in her gas form and niether Vector nor Xray have to get in close to use there powers the only one who has to get up close and personal is ironclad

I can't argue with you on this. Vargas has so few appearances that I really have nothing to stand on. He however has a genuis level I.Q. I'm pretty sure that he could find a way to contain Vapor.... do you remember when The Hulk turned her into water and mopped her up?

Could he ever beat the U-Foes? I think he could one on one.

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