Darth Revan vs Exile

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Spartan 063
This battle takes place during KOTOR II, when the Mercs infultrate the Koonda.
Exile on the side of the colonists

Revan leads the mercs into battle.

Revan from right before he is betrayed by Malak
and the exile from when she fights Darth Traya.

which side comes out victorious.

Man of Christ
Originally posted by Spartan 063
This battle takes place during KOTOR II, when the Mercs infultrate the Koonda.
Exile on the side of the colonists

Revan leads the mercs into battle.

Revan from right before he is betrayed by Malak
and the exile from when she fights Darth Traya.

which side comes out victorious.

the revan who was betrayed by malak is weaker than the revan that fought and killed malak. so a not 100% revan vs a 100% exile. i say the exile takes this

Spartan 063
you also have to remember tat revan is leading battle hardened mercs agains volunteer security troops.

but revan is also a stratagist, he could find an easy way into the koonda.

1 on 1, the battle would be long, revan has more force power and knowledge than the exile does.

i'd say the battle is close.

if it was 100% revan, it would have been a chalenge for him.

darthsith19
Revan wins.

Lt. Valerian
Individually, nothing ever suggests the Exile is superior to Revan. She's losing this one.

Man of Christ
Originally posted by Spartan 063
you also have to remember tat revan is leading battle hardened mercs agains volunteer security troops.

but revan is also a stratagist, he could find an easy way into the koonda.

1 on 1, the battle would be long, revan has more force power and knowledge than the exile does.

i'd say the battle is close.

if it was 100% revan, it would have been a chalenge for him.

this is the exile that killed traya,nilous and sion all in 1 day with no meals in between those killings, not the exile in the beginning or middle of the game, added to that this is revan in the middle of his journey, not the super cool malak killing one at the end so if it was 100 revan then the exile is dead but since its not 100% revan. but a sith revan and the exile is canonically a light side so i give it to the exile, who wasnt so bad a strategist himself c'mon, he led the squadron that defeated mandalore. (the mandalore before canderous)

Elite Hunter
I think we all have to keep in mind that DARTH Revan is still powerful in his own right knew stuff that Bane was scarred of. So its not like the exile can walk right through him if she managed to win.

caedusrulesall
Originally posted by Man of Christ
the revan who was betrayed by malak is weaker than the revan that fought and killed malak. so a not 100% revan vs a 100% exile. i say the exile takes this

What do you mean Darth Revan is less powerful than Revan?

And Darth Revan kills the Exile.

Elite Hunter
Originally posted by caedusrulesall
What do you mean Darth Revan is less powerful than Revan?

Malak says "Well done, Revan. I was certain the defenses of the Star Forge would destroy you, but I see there is more of your old self in you than I expected. You are stronger than I thought; stronger than you ever were during your reign as the Dark Lord. I did not think that was possible."

Lt. Valerian
Originally posted by caedusrulesall
What do you mean Darth Revan is less powerful than Revan?

And Darth Revan kills the Exile.

He is trying to say that post-KOTOR Revan (light side) is a more powerful version of his former self as the Dark Lord of the Sith.

caedusrulesall
Originally posted by Lt. Valerian
He is trying to say that post-KOTOR Revan (light side) is a more powerful version of his former self as the Dark Lord of the Sith.

Yes I understand that, but I always seemed to believe that Revan when he was still being reflected as dark was more powerful than post-memory wipe.

Originally posted by Elite Hunter
Malak says "Well done, Revan. I was certain the defenses of the Star Forge would destroy you, but I see there is more of your old self in you than I expected. You are stronger than I thought; stronger than you ever were during your reign as the Dark Lord. I did not think that was possible."

My mistake.

Darth Exodus
The real question is if Revan is going to unleash any of her uber-sith attacks. She could very easily just destroy the Exile by destroying the building. However, it seems to me that The Exile might just be powerful enough to block Revan's force power's. Revan's superior tactics might factor in but with the limited resouces that she has, there doesn't seem to be much the she could do.The Exile would win in a straight up fight though, she did beat Atris, Nihilus, Sion and Traya in a single day as well as a ship and a whole temples worth of lesser sith. She also has her Force-leeching ability.

The Exile would probably win.

caedusrulesall
Originally posted by Darth Exodus
The real question is if Revan is going to unleash any of her uber-sith attacks. She could very easily just destroy the Exile by destroying the building. However, it seems to me that The Exile might just be powerful enough to block Revan's force power's. Revan's superior tactics might factor in but with the limited resouces that she has, there doesn't seem to be much the she could do.The Exile would win in a straight up fight though, she did beat Atris, Nihilus, Sion and Traya in a single day as well as a ship and a whole temples worth of lesser sith. She also has her Force-leeching ability.

The Exile would probably win.

Keep in mind about those Sith that the Exile took down in the Trayus Academy, that they were mainly (not all, but mainly) Sith Assassins, who fight with quarterstaffs and have no Force powers.

And Revan is canonically confirmed as MALE, not female.

And to be fair, the redeemed Revan did take out a temple and a Star Forge's worth of lightsaber-wielding, Force power-using Dark Jedi and Sith that were better at fighting than the Sith Assassins the Exile fought after defeating Bastila earlier in the day and going on to defeat super-powered Malak later in the day. However, we're not talking about that Revan, but I was just putting that out there.

Light_Sith
This question is too difficult.

It would at first be reasonable to assume that Revan wins, but the Exile (the hot one) has some absurd powers.

Lt. Valerian
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123KID
we don't have a lot of solid feats for either of them
but it seems people here have come to the conclusion the Exile is just an average Jedi
funny shit

Lt. Valerian
Originally posted by Darth Exodus
The Exile would win in a straight up fight though, she did beat Atris, Nihilus, Sion and Traya in a single day as well as a ship and a whole temples worth of lesser sith. She also has her Force-leeching ability.

It's not convenient for you to compare the Exile's feats with those of Revan. Although, in my opinion, certain feats are irrelevant in a one-on-one fight, let me play along:
Revan defeated a batallion of Sith troopers, Sith apprentices, and war droids in the Star Forge, went on to defeat Bastila, and then he defeated Malak, who was empowered by the Star Forge. He also, during his journey, defeated a lot of Malak's "powerful" minions who attempted to murder him, faced Malak's apprentice, Bandon, fought and killed Firaxan sharks on Manaan (along with crazed Selkath), defeated Calo Nord, murdered a handful of fierce Tusken Raiders, killed an entire academy of furious Sith apprentices and masters, annihilated at least two Terentatek at the same time, managed himself inside a temple "crawling with Dark Jedi", slayed everyone inside the military base on Manaan, and more.


And, in a single day? No, I believe it's just game mechanics. What, do you think it would be fun to watch the Exile sleeping each time she solved a conflict or completed a mission?



Please, don't think that only because I argued in favour of Revan I don't hate him, by the way.

Elite Hunter
Originally posted by Lt. Valerian
It's not convenient for you to compare the Exile's feats with those of Revan. Although, in my opinion, certain feats are irrelevant in a one-on-one fight, let me play along:
Revan defeated a batallion of Sith troopers, Sith apprentices, and war droids in the Star Forge, went on to defeat Bastila, and then he defeated Malak, who was empowered by the Star Forge. He also, during his journey, defeated a lot of Malak's "powerful" minions who attempted to murder him, faced Malak's apprentice, Bandon, fought and killed Firaxan sharks on Manaan (along with crazed Selkath), defeated Calo Nord, murdered a handful of fierce Tusken Raiders, killed an entire academy of furious Sith apprentices and masters, annihilated at least two Terentatek at the same time, managed himself inside a temple "crawling with Dark Jedi", slayed everyone inside the military base on Manaan, and much more. .

That's great and all but this is DARTH Revan before Malak betrayed him so none of that happened yet.

Lt. Valerian
Originally posted by Elite Hunter
That's great and all but this is DARTH Revan before Malak betrayed him so none of that happened yet.

Right.... kinda forgot about that.... sorry, noobie mistake.

I reckon he would still be able to do all of that, though.

Elite Hunter
Originally posted by Lt. Valerian
Right.... kinda forgot about that.... sorry, newbie mistake.
No Problem.

I will try and list relevant prekotor feats and information about Revan
He killed Mandalore the Ultimate in single combat, killed Yusanis, general in the mado. wars. He was first landed on Malachor V and I believe it was said that he resisted the darkside energies (that nearly killed traya.) Then he plundered Malachor as well as learning at Korriban.

He knew techniques that Darth Bane was afraid to ever attempt and he used the force storm and gave the knowledge of the thought bomb to kaan so it is possible he knew other deadly techniques that are unkown at this moment.

Kreia called Revan the heart of the force in kotor 2. But she had to be refering to a pre-kotor Revan because she never saw him after the betrayal and post kotor.

Lt. Valerian
Originally posted by Elite Hunter
Kreia called Revan the heart of the force in kotor 2. But she had to be refering to a pre-kotor Revan because she never saw him after the betrayal and post kotor.

She knows all about that, though.

Elite Hunter
Originally posted by Lt. Valerian
She knows all about that, though.

She never saw him so I would doubt she can accurately describe his powers plus the full quote is: "Revan was power. Staring into his eyes was like staring into the heart of the Force. Even then, you could see the Jedi he would slay etched on his soul." So it says "even then" indicating that he has not left the order yet or in in the mando. wars but has not turned to the darkside.

Lt. Valerian
Maybe that's why the witch says "Revan was power", and not is... or maybe because she believes he is dead.

Elite Hunter
Originally posted by Lt. Valerian
Maybe that's why the witch says "Revan was power", and not is... or maybe because she believes he is dead.

Still proves that she was talking about Revan pre kotor and possibly pre Sith since she mentions "even then you can the see the jedi he would slay etched in his soul"

Lt. Valerian
Yes, I know, I wasn't denying that.

Freedon Nadd
The Jedi Exile takes this.

Dark-Kenshin
Originally posted by Freedon Nadd
The Jedi Exile takes this. Creator of the Jedi Exile thinks could take the Exile and Kreia simaltaneously.

McP
Revan terribly stomps

S_W_LeGenD
Revan

red8
Exile

deathslash
Revan still takes this.

Revanchiste
Darth Revan > Dark Exiled > KotOR Revan = Exile
KotOR II Darth Revan recover his power much faster than the lightside version...

DarthAnt66

ChaosTheory123
Ever thought of screen shotting these responses dude?

Not doubting the authenticity, but it's always better to have something tangible for citation :hmm

AncientPower
Darth Revan wins but he hardly stomps.

Freedon Nadd
That was just his opinion, actually he said, "In my opinion Revan can beat the Jedi Exile."

His opinion remains just an opinion not a real statement.

FreshestSlice
Considering the Exile is Avellone's character, his opinion is just about law. He designed her to be weaker, and the Exile acknowledges that in the novel. Might as well let this one go.

Freedon Nadd
Considering that Revan isn't Darth Nihilus, or some other hole in the Force, he's just as vulnerable to Exile's mysterious power as the other Masters are. Therefore, unless Revan can survive the drain and loss of his Force connection, and then still be able to fight, we have an instant win for Exile.

However, if we assume that Exile has no control over the technique, or limited control, or is only able to activate it when her opponent is weakened considerably, then it comes down to the following facts:

-Vrook has said that Exile's Force Potential is mediocre and Kreia called the Exile the greatest she had ever trained
-Kreia has called Revan the Heart of the Force and called the Exile the Death of the Force
-Revan defeated Mandalore in a duel, defeated both Bastilla and Malak while they were healed by the Star Forge, and has had five years since the end of KOTOR 1 to gain power.
-Exile has defeated three Sith Lords, and a schutta (Atris). However, she had help against Nihilus, so that might not be weighed as heavily.

If anything, their skills seem complementary to one another. But going on the above, therefore I say the Exile wins but with a little difficulty.

FreshestSlice
>necros a thread to say his opinion is above the person who created the character in the first place

Well,aren't you all kinds of 2kewlforskewl?

Freedon Nadd
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Considering the Exile is Avellone's character, his opinion is just about law. He designed her to be weaker, and the Exile acknowledges that in the novel. Might as well let this one go.

Opinions are just opinions, it does not affect the real universe.

If by accident Drew says that Revan beats Nihilus, it is just his opinion, feats point otherwise.

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