All of these incredible Namor feats and he still gets gutted from Wolverine or Manhandled from Rhino unless he gets in the water.
Yeah maybe Namor is actually Herlad-level...
30 meters per second.
Orin has gone 20000 feet per second.
1 ft = 0,3 meters.
Thats 6666,6 meters per second (a feat on panel)
Maybe you should "do the math" mate...
Namor is not even remotely close to that kind of speed.
Don't bring up Namor vs Surfer.
If Surfer wanted to fight Namor he'd kill him in a second (unless you try to tell me that all of Surfer's blast have the same potency or that Surfer was trying to fight Namor, which is not the case and you know it)
Maybe you didn't understand or fathom the extend of punishment Orin can take.
I'll say it again.
He took a POINT BLANK blast from STARRO (continent size creature) and wasn't KOed.
The same blast took out Orion destroying his Astro Harness (maybe you want to compare Orion's durability with Namors)
He took a point blank blast of heat vision from an angry Amazo ( the robot that usually solos the entire League) and was OK
Orin has kicked out the JLA out of Atlantis and as for you question concerning Thor maybe you should read how Aquaman fared against Despero and compare it to Martian Manhunter's performance.
Either way Martian Manhunter or Despero would kill Namor in a fight.
That's why I'm saying you highlight Namor's famous fights and don't even consider Aquaman's
I still think that Namor MIGHT have a SMALL advantage in strength and flight.
Orin has him dead beat in all other categories.
As for the crimson bands of Cytorak
CAPTAIN BRITAIN also broke them and he is not even considered class 100 (if this force is holding the Marvel Universe together then it is doomed
And again we know that Hercules can beat Namor or at least stalemate him.
Aquaman beat a guy who has Herc's strength (Olympian) plus another dozen of powers.
He beat a team of class 100 New Gods with transmutation powers.
He dropped MM on his knees.
He gave Despero one hell of a fight.
He beat an evil Green Lantern
He one punch KOed Superboy.
He beat Triton son of Poseidon who casually manhandled WW (she later killed him but that was when he was already stripped from his powers - in case anyone tries to bring it up)
He got up form from a villain's power that was pinning the whole
JLA to the ground and not even Superman or MM or WW could break free.
He took on an entire alien army and killed their leader.
All of the above only with pure strength.
So to sum up
Namor has some impressive feats Orin has also.
Orin is FASTER (fact) and has Namor beat in all categories except MAYBE strength and flight.
As for Aquaman vs Surfer's beam's.
Yes he could withstand the same that Namor took because SS WASN'T trying to fight Namor.
Unless you want to tell me that Namor would withstand a full power blast from SS
As for Aquaman vs Thor underwater
Maybe Aquaman could hang for a while if he played it clever and used his speed and tries to drown him. Thor usually goes only for a head on physical fight against Namor forgetting he can do much more. But anyway edge to Thor.
With prep he could take him (he took down an Imperiex probe after all.Thor is not in his element underwater. He is slow underwater. He has been hurt physically by weaker characters than Aquaman)