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Who takes it?

Team one wins the majority.

Cosigned.

Team 2 wins.

Team 1 should be pretty close to the full majority.

Team Two

Team 1.

Team 1 wins... Zoom could solo SS and Thor if he wanted to. That leaves the high herald and the team buster against Thanos.

This is tough...

I can see Surfer vs. Zoom, and Thanos vs. Despero stalemating for a long while...

The key to team 1's victory is Henshaw who takes 9/10 against Thor.

Team 1 wins 8/10.

Despero got one-shotted by Superman's heat vision.

313.

Originally posted by Soljer
Despero got one-shotted by Superman's heat vision.

313. Luckily,
no one of team 2 can duplicate power of that magnitude..

131

Originally posted by Galan007
Luckily,
no one of team 2 can duplicate power of that magnitude..

131 You are joking..right?

Team 1

So Thanos against Despero and Hankshaw? He beats both but at the sametime he would be hard pressed.

Heck, who am I kidding? Despero got one-shotted by heat vision and Thanos sent flying a well-fed Galactus.

6/10 to team two, due Hankshaw being a beast.

Originally posted by Bentley
Heck, who am I kidding? Despero got one-shotted by heat vision and Thanos sent flying a well-fed Galactus.

Wow just ,wow.

Team 1. In a stomp.

Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
Team 1. In a stomp. Explain why please.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Explain why please.

I could probably just use Zoom alone and show how he trashes Team 2. Cyborg Superman w/rings added, it's overkill. And with Despero ..

Originally posted by quanchi112
Explain why please.
Maybe because each of them can bust a team of herald level characters?

Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
I could probably just use Zoom alone and show how he trashes Team 2. Cyborg Superman w/rings added, it's overkill. And with Despero .. What has Cyborg done with the rings that shows how bad he really is. Thanos could take out Henshaw with his rings all day. Surfer takes out Zoom while Thor finishes Despero.

When are you going to show me how Zoom alone trashes team 2?

Originally posted by Estacado
Maybe because each of them can bust a team of herald level characters? The most powerful guy in this thread is Thanos and hes on team 2.

Originally posted by quanchi112
The most powerful guy in this thread is Thanos and hes on team 2.
So?

Originally posted by Estacado
So? So the advantage is for team 2.

Zoom could land a thousand punches on Thanos in a second or two.

Killing the Wally wouldn't really be a problem for him, but he's always trying to make people "better" heroes.

Originally posted by llagrok
Zoom could land a thousand punches on Thanos in a second or two.

Killing the Wally wouldn't really be a problem for him, but he's always trying to make people "better" heroes. What stops Thanos from putting on a forcefield like the one he used against Champion and mindraping him.

The fact that Zoom is roughly a million times faster than him.

Originally posted by llagrok
The fact that Zoom is roughly a million times faster than him. How does he hit Thanos with his shield up? Thanos took out the Fallen One who is a lot faster than him as well.

Even before the rings, Henkshaw was very powerfull. He was pretty much an advanced Superman. With the 10 rings, there's no discussion that he can take anyone on team 2.

When he got mad, he pretty much trashed Superman in a few punches. Are you going to bring the fact that he was supposdley 'beaten' off panel ? First of all, we don't know the circumstances in which it happened. And second of all, a few moments later he was right back up, taking on Green Lanterns and taunting them at the same time, aswell as taking a blast from a bloodlusted Guardian without any real lasting effect.



Surfer taking out Zoom ? Lulz. Surfer wouldn't even know what hit him. Surfer isn't even close to Zoom's speed, which is pretty much as fast as he wants to be. With more than a thousand Superman-level punches in less than a second, Surfer doesn't even have a chance.

Thor taking down Despero ? Not if Despero isn't jobbing. Not to mention that Despero isn't really needed, since Zoom can take both Silver Surfer and Thor at the same time.



I already did.

None of them can keep up with Zoom.

The only feat the Silver Surfer has on par with Zoom, is the one from the Infinity Gauntlet comic. Where he attempts to snag Thanos' gauntlet.

Originally posted by quanchi112
How does he hit Thanos with his shield up? Thanos took out the Fallen One who is a lot faster than him as well.
You fail as always.
Zoom is a "time manipulator".
As for Thor beating Despero.....crylaugh


Give up your knowledge on Dc is so poor you make yourself look dumber each time you make a comment about a Dc character.

Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
Even before the rings, Henkshaw was very powerfull. He was pretty much an advanced Superman. With the 10 rings, there's no discussion that he can take anyone on team 2.

When he got mad, he pretty much trashed Superman in a few punches. Are you going to bring the fact that he was supposdley 'beaten' off panel ? First of all, we don't know the circumstances in which it happened. And second of all, a few moments later he was right back up, taking on Green Lanterns and taunting them at the same time, aswell as taking a blast from a bloodlusted Guardian without any real lasting effect.



Surfer taking out Zoom ? Lulz. Surfer wouldn't even know what hit him. Surfer isn't even close to Zoom's speed, which is pretty much as fast as he wants to be. With more than a thousand Superman-level punches in less than a second, Surfer doesn't even have a chance.

Thor taking down Despero ? Not if Despero isn't jobbing. Not to mention that Despero isn't really needed, since Zoom can take both Silver Surfer and Thor at the same time.



I already did.

None of them can keep up with Zoom. Superman has gotten knocked dizzy by a Kalibak punch also. So your saying that Henshaw was a slightly advanced Superman before the rings and the only feat you have is him beating Superman which he could already do in your opinion but much faster.

If heat vision oneshotted the guy what do you think Thors hammer will do to him.

Oh and Thanos took on Thor with the power gem and if we go by on panel feats he woul dutterly trash Henshaw with his rings as he took down teams of badasses while Henshaw only took out Superman. Thats his only lone feat.

Originally posted by Estacado
You fail as always.
Zoom is a "time manipulator".
As for Thor beating Despero.....crylaugh


Give up your knowledge on Dc is so poor you make yourself look dumber each time you make a comment about a Dc character. Yes,Zoom manipulates time but he still isnt touching Thanos through his shields. Thor chased off Galactus with his godblast didnt he? So to think that Thor couldnt defeat Despero is biased to say the least.

Thor can't beat Despero sorry he trashes Superman and other Jl members almost as bad as Prime. Despero and Thanos are peers while Henshaw and Silver are peers Zoom and Thor probably decide the outcome i give team 1 the majority.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes,Zoom manipulates time but he still isnt touching Thanos through his shields. Thor chased off Galactus with his godblast didnt he? So to think that Thor couldnt defeat Despero is biased to say the least.
What a failure........haermm
In that case Thor could beat Thanos as well.
As for Despero he beat Captain Marvel,Superman,Power Girl,Wonder Woman in seconds he also stalemated multiple Jla teams.
The only low showing he has is that heatvision crap which is obviously PIS since he withstood HV more then once.

What the hell ? Is this supposed to be relevant to the discussion ?



Did you not read my post or simply do not have the capacity to comprehend it ?

Here, I'll highlight the important parts for you.

"Even before the rings, Henkshaw was very powerfull. He was pretty much an advanced Superman.
Are you going to bring the fact that he was supposdley 'beaten' off panel ? First of all, we don't know the circumstances in which it happened. And second of all, a few moments later he was right back up, taking on Green Lanterns and taunting them at the same time, aswell as taking a blast from a bloodlusted Guardian without any real lasting effect."



I'm telling you again, read my posts because I'm not going to bother repeating everything over and over again.

"Thor taking down Despero ? Not if Despero isn't jobbing."



Thanos taking an advanced Superman with Sinestro Corps power rings ? Not going to happen.

And since Henkshaw's not alone in this match, there's no chance team 2 is going to take it.

Originally posted by Estacado
What a failure........haermm
In that case Thor could beat Thanos as well.
As for Despero he beat Captain Marvel,Superman,Power Girl,Wonder Woman in seconds he also stalemated multiple Jla teams.
The only low showing he has is that heatvision crap which is obviously PIS since he withstood HV more then once.

Thanos doesnt lose to top tiers on panel while Despero has...that is the big difference here. One low showing brings down the average friend.

Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
What the hell ? Is this supposed to be relevant to the discussion ?



Did you not read my post or simply do not have the capacity to comprehend it ?

Here, I'll highlight the important parts for you.

"Even before the rings, Henkshaw was very powerfull. He was pretty much an advanced Superman.
Are you going to bring the fact that he was supposdley 'beaten' off panel ? First of all, we don't know the circumstances in which it happened. And second of all, a few moments later he was right back up, taking on Green Lanterns and taunting them at the same time, aswell as taking a blast from a bloodlusted Guardian without any real lasting effect."



I'm telling you again, read my posts because I'm not going to bother repeating everything over and over again.

"Thor taking down Despero ? Not if Despero isn't jobbing."



Thanos taking an advanced Superman with Sinestro Corps power rings ? Not going to happen.

And since Henkshaw's not alone in this match, there's no chance team 2 is going to take it. The reason I spoke of the Kalibak punch was to show that someone much weaker than Cyborg could knock out Supes. So again Cyborg and this amp wasnt that special as he really doesnt have any feats other than beating Superman which Kalibak has also done.

The only thing we see on panel was him beat Supermans ass. So thats his only feat. Beating down one top tier isnt thataweinspiring. Thanos has taken on Thor and the Thing at the same time at his weakest. he took on Thor with the power gem while he was sluaghtering teams. Thanos beat down the Surfer who is Supermans superior. So he has more feats tha your Cyborg with the rings. Can you comprehend that?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos doesnt lose to top tiers on panel while Despero has...that is the big difference here. One low showing brings down the average friend.
It was PIS you idiot.
Also Despero has never been defeated through phisical force.
I doubt you have read anything with Despero besides Superman/Batman.

Originally posted by quanchi112
What stops Thanos from putting on a forcefield like the one he used against Champion and mindraping him.

Champion almost broke the field

Originally posted by Gecko4lif
Champion almost broke the field Champion had the power gem.

Originally posted by Estacado
It was PIS you idiot.
Also Despero has never been defeated through phisical force.
I doubt you have read anything with Despero besides Superman/Batman. Thor has the godblast. There is no need for insults.

Ignoring what people say, cherry picking showings and antagonizing people is as bad as, or worse than, name calling.

Originally posted by Badabing
Huc wins durhuc

Co-sign

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thor has the godblast. There is no need for insults.
crylaugh
That's your argument?
You fail.

Originally posted by quanchi112
What has Cyborg done with the rings that shows how bad he really is. Thanos could take out Henshaw with his rings all day. Surfer takes out Zoom while Thor finishes Despero.

When are you going to show me how Zoom alone trashes team 2?


Cyborg is more than capable of pwning anyone on team two..the most difficult being Thanos of course.

With Guys like Despero and Zoom on his side, team one racks up the most victories.

Are you talking about the same Kalibak who is stated to be amped by Darkseid, the same one who physically dominated Orion ?

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s132/Erik_Magnus_Lensherr/th_OrionKalibak1.jpghttp://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s132/Erik_Magnus_Lensherr/th_OrionKalibak2.jpghttp://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s132/Erik_Magnus_Lensherr/th_OrionKalibak3.jpg

The same Darkseid who states that Superman is a warrior capable of easily weathering Kalibak and Mantis's combined assault ?

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s132/Erik_Magnus_Lensherr/SupermanCombined.jpg

Superman was taking both of them at the same time and having the advantage. He also was taken by surprise by Kalibak due to the fact that he underestimated him, as it was stated ..

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s132/Erik_Magnus_Lensherr/Underestimation.jpg

.. and only 'lost' due to an unexpected energy attack plus a lucky blow in which Kalibak put everything he had ..

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s132/Erik_Magnus_Lensherr/th_UnexpectedEnergy.jpghttp://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s132/Erik_Magnus_Lensherr/th_LuckyBlow.jpg

Try again.



This is the third and last time I'm going to repeat it to you. I don't have Mungi's patience. Him beating Superman on panel isn't the only thing we see.

Shortly after his off panel 'defeat' he is shown battling the Green Lantern Corps and taunting them about using lethal force ..

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s132/Erik_Magnus_Lensherr/th_CyborgCorps.jpg

.. and he also takes a blast from a bloodlusted Guardian and flat out tells him that he fails like all the others.

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s132/Erik_Magnus_Lensherr/th_CyborgGuardian.jpg

Do I need to mention the fact that his purpose is to die, so logic suggests that he didn't put up any extra defenses against the Guardian's attack, since he later thanks the GLC for giving him his 'death' ?

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s132/Erik_Magnus_Lensherr/th_CyborgExplosion2.jpghttp://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s132/Erik_Magnus_Lensherr/th_CyborgExplosion.jpg

Thanos taking Thor and Thing is impressive ? Anybody on team 1 would wipe the floor with these 2.

Taking Thor with Power Gem ? Pretty impressive, too bad he didn't beat him one on one and he used a weapon to trap him.

And like I said, even before having the rings, Henkshaw was an advanced Superman. With Zoom and Despero on his team, 2 other persons arguably able to solo team 2, there's no chance this fight won't go to team 1.

Originally posted by Estacado
crylaugh
That's your argument?
You fail. The godblast is mightier than heat vision. I could care less if you try to taunt me because you rarely put out an argument but instead focus mainly on words like fail and laughing smileys.

Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
Are you talking about the same Kalibak who is stated to be amped by Darkseid, the same one who physically dominated Orion ?

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s132/Erik_Magnus_Lensherr/th_OrionKalibak1.jpghttp://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s132/Erik_Magnus_Lensherr/th_OrionKalibak2.jpghttp://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s132/Erik_Magnus_Lensherr/th_OrionKalibak3.jpg

The same Darkseid who states that Superman is a warrior capable of easily weathering Kalibak and Mantis's combined assault ?

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s132/Erik_Magnus_Lensherr/SupermanCombined.jpg

Superman was taking both of them at the same time and having the advantage. He also was taken by surprise by Kalibak due to the fact that he underestimated him, as it was stated ..

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s132/Erik_Magnus_Lensherr/Underestimation.jpg

.. and only 'lost' due to an unexpected energy attack plus a lucky blow in which Kalibak put everything he had ..

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s132/Erik_Magnus_Lensherr/th_UnexpectedEnergy.jpghttp://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s132/Erik_Magnus_Lensherr/th_LuckyBlow.jpg

Try again.



This is the third and last time I'm going to repeat it to you. I don't have Mungi's patience. Him beating Superman on panel isn't the only thing we see.

Shortly after his off panel 'defeat' he is shown battling the Green Lantern Corps and taunting them about using lethal force ..

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s132/Erik_Magnus_Lensherr/th_CyborgCorps.jpg

.. and he also takes a blast from a bloodlusted Guardian and flat out tells him that he fails like all the others.

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s132/Erik_Magnus_Lensherr/th_CyborgGuardian.jpg

Do I need to mention the fact that his purpose is to die, so logic suggests that he didn't put up any extra defenses against the Guardian's attack, since he later thanks the GLC for giving him his 'death' ?

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s132/Erik_Magnus_Lensherr/th_CyborgExplosion2.jpghttp://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s132/Erik_Magnus_Lensherr/th_CyborgExplosion.jpg

Thanos taking Thor and Thing is impressive ? Anybody on team 1 would wipe the floor with these 2.

Taking Thor with Power Gem ? Pretty impressive, too bad he didn't beat him one on one and he used a weapon to trap him.

And like I said, even before having the rings, Henkshaw was an advanced Superman. With Zoom and Despero on his team, 2 other persons arguably able to solo team 2, there's no chance this fight won't go to team 1. All Kalibak needed was one lucky blow to beat Supes and ring his bell. That is why the play the game friend. Just like in sports anything can happen and this proves Supes can be ko'd by a haymaker. This fight also proves how overconfident Supes can be at times and how he can underestimate an opponent. he underestimated the shadow demons earlier in the series.

So you use Cyborg battling cannon fodder as further proof about how big of a badass he was. That doesnt cut the mustard.

Lets compare shall we. Ok Thanos took on Thor and took the brunt of his attacks while he wore the power gem. Thor was more impressive and had better on panel feats. The reason Thanos used the gun was that was the only way to basically ko him or render him temporarily defeated. Thanos taking his best and smiling and showing sheer boredom is impressive when you factor in Thor going through the likes of Maxam,Drax,Surfer,Strange,Warlock,etcl all at once. That feat makes Cyborgs beatdown of Superman look pretty weak when you stack them up to each other.

I merely used Thanos taking on Thor and the Thing to illustrate how powerful he was even before his first major upgrade. I didnt see Cyborg beat up Superman and anyone else at the same time now did I?

Originally posted by Avlon
Cyborg is more than capable of pwning anyone on team two..the most difficult being Thanos of course.

With Guys like Despero and Zoom on his side, team one racks up the most victories. Thanos will take out Cyborg.

Despero > Silver Surfer> Thor
Hank Henshaw>= Silver Surfer> Thor
The advantage is in team ones favor and they win.

Originally posted by iceman24567
Despero > Silver Surfer> Thor
Hank Henshaw>= Silver Surfer> Thor
The advantage is in team ones favor and they win. But you are leaving out Thanos and hes definitely the most dangerous character on team 2.

Originally posted by quanchi112
But you are leaving out Thanos and hes definitely the most dangerous character on team 2. Thanos is not nearly uber enough for it to matter team 1 has the upper hand Thanos isn't that much above Henshaw or Despero.

Originally posted by quanchi112
The godblast is mightier than heat vision. I could care less if you try to taunt me because you rarely put out an argument but instead focus mainly on words like fail and laughing smileys.
Can you comprehend that it was the only time heat vision Ko'd Despero? He has been hit by it a few times earlier and it didn't do any serious damage.
Oh wait you haven't read any comic with Despero just saw the S/B scan.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos will take out Cyborg.

Even after he turns down Thanos advance..Henshaw will beat Thanos.

And even before his power up... Henshaw beat down top tiers easily.

Originally posted by Estacado
Can you comprehend that it was the only time heat vision Ko'd Despero? He has been hit by it a few times earlier and it didn't do any serious damage.
Oh wait you haven't read any comic with Despero just saw the S/B scan. Ok...it happened once...I get it. But like I said has the godblast and that is much more powerful than heat vision.

Originally posted by Avlon
Even after he turns down Thanos advance..Henshaw will beat Thanos.

And even before his power up... Henshaw beat down top tiers easily. Do you really want to compare feats between the two. Thanos is above him easily. Henshaw has been oneshotted by Darkseid.

Thanos takes on top tiers with amps while Henshaw had the amp against a top tier. Its a big difference friend.

Originally posted by iceman24567
Thanos is not nearly uber enough for it to matter team 1 has the upper hand Thanos isn't that much above Henshaw or Despero. Thor takes out Despero,Surfer takes out Zoom,while that leaves Henshaw for Thanos.

Henshaw smacked Supergirl, Superboy, Eradicator and Steel when he first showed up. He's been a wrecking ball for a long time.

Originally posted by Soljer
Despero got one-shotted by Superman's heat vision.

313.

Thor got knocked out by a handgun bullet and Surfer by a brick.

This is a fun game to play. ha-son

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Henshaw smacked Supergirl, Superboy, Eradicator and Steel when he first showed up. He's been a wrecking ball for a long time. Thanos took on Thor with the power gem who wrecked far more by himself than this weak team could ever dream of beating. Thanos has humiliated the Surfer and taken blows from Odin for the better part of a comic.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Champion had the power gem.
So?

The pg's showings are shit

Originally posted by Gecko4lif
So?

The pg's showings are shit No they arent. Power gem is one helluva an amp.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Do you really want to compare feats between the two. Thanos is above him easily. Henshaw has been oneshotted by Darkseid.

Thanos takes on top tiers with amps while Henshaw had the amp against a top tier. Its a big difference friend.

Sure, early on Henshaw was defeated by fully powered omega beams while he fought Superman. Thanos was transmuted to death by warlock.

Thanos hasn't even finished his so called fight with his amped friend. Gun>Power gem. Borg is great at making guns.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos doesnt lose to top tiers on panel while Despero has...that is the big difference here. One low showing brings down the average friend.

Well Thanos was cut pretty bad by wolverine, Sufer was pwned by panther...guess that means there all like meta level beings now right?

Originally posted by Avlon
Sure, early on Henshaw was defeated by fully powered omega beams while he fought Superman. Thanos was transmuted to death by warlock.

Thanos hasn't even finished his so called fight with his amped friend. Gun>Power gem. Borg is great at making guns. Thanos was defeated at his weakest by Warlocks ghost. he killed Warlock once and his ghost had to stop Thanos. Not bad at all.


Thanos took everything Thor threw at him and was bored with it. He then ended it. The point is that Cyborg couldnt take the punishment that Thanos took with a grin on his face.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
Well Thanos was cut pretty bad by wolverine, Sufer was pwned by panther...guess that means there all like meta level beings now right? You have to factor in that bad showing of the Surfers but he still has the power cosmic friend. Thanos was cut but wasnt defeated so how is that a low showing.

How is Despero being oneshotted by Supes a low showing, everyone has already explained the circumstances behind it and it makes sense. On the otherhand the fact that Thanos was almost speedblitz by Gemera and being cut by wolverine is a very low showing, not to mention being ass raped by Drax.

If Despero was able to mind rape rape J'onn(along with Aquaman) then he should have no trouble raping either Surfer or Thor.

Zoom would make Thanos crap his pants something like Runner did.

Hank would just plain own whoever he faced. Supes didn't last long at all vs. Hank in the SCW till he got help. How would Thanos look with a fear energy dog chain around his neck?

Originally posted by quanchi112
All Kalibak needed was one lucky blow to beat Supes and ring his bell. That is why the play the game friend. Just like in sports anything can happen and this proves Supes can be ko'd by a haymaker. This fight also proves how overconfident Supes can be at times and how he can underestimate an opponent. he underestimated the shadow demons earlier in the series.


Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
Are you talking about the same Kalibak who is stated to be amped by Darkseid, the same one who physically dominated Orion ?

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s132/Erik_Magnus_Lensherr/th_OrionKalibak1.jpghttp://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s132/Erik_Magnus_Lensherr/th_OrionKalibak2.jpghttp://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s132/Erik_Magnus_Lensherr/th_OrionKalibak3.jpg

The same Darkseid who states that Superman is a warrior capable of easily weathering Kalibak and Mantis's combined assault ?

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s132/Erik_Magnus_Lensherr/SupermanCombined.jpg

Superman was taking both of them at the same time and having the advantage. He also was taken by surprise by Kalibak due to the fact that he underestimated him, as it was stated ..

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s132/Erik_Magnus_Lensherr/Underestimation.jpg

.. and only 'lost' due to an unexpected energy attack plus a lucky blow in which Kalibak put everything he had ..

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s132/Erik_Magnus_Lensherr/th_UnexpectedEnergy.jpghttp://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s132/Erik_Magnus_Lensherr/th_LuckyBlow.jpg


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Originally posted by quanchi112
So you use Cyborg battling cannon fodder as further proof about how big of a badass he was. That doesnt cut the mustard.


Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr

.. and he also takes a blast from a bloodlusted Guardian and flat out tells him that he fails like all the others.

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s132/Erik_Magnus_Lensherr/th_CyborgGuardian.jpg

Do I need to mention the fact that his purpose is to die, so logic suggests that he didn't put up any extra defenses against the Guardian's attack, since he later thanks the GLC for giving him his 'death' ?

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s132/Erik_Magnus_Lensherr/th_CyborgExplosion2.jpghttp://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s132/Erik_Magnus_Lensherr/th_CyborgExplosion.jpg


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Originally posted by quanchi112
Lets compare shall we. Ok Thanos took on Thor and took the brunt of his attacks while he wore the power gem. Thor was more impressive and had better on panel feats. The reason Thanos used the gun was that was the only way to basically ko him or render him temporarily defeated. Thanos taking his best and smiling and showing sheer boredom is impressive when you factor in Thor going through the likes of Maxam,Drax,Surfer,Strange,Warlock,etcl all at once. That feat makes Cyborgs beatdown of Superman look pretty weak when you stack them up to each other.


Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
Taking Thor with Power Gem ? Pretty impressive, too bad he didn't beat him one on one and he used a weapon to trap him.


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Originally posted by quanchi112
I merely used Thanos taking on Thor and the Thing to illustrate how powerful he was even before his first major upgrade. I didnt see Cyborg beat up Superman and anyone else at the same time now did I?

Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
Thanos taking Thor and Thing is impressive ? Anybody on team 1 would wipe the floor with these 2.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos took on Thor with the power gem who wrecked far more by himself than this weak team could ever dream of beating. Thanos has humiliated the Surfer and taken blows from Odin for the better part of a comic.
Despero has took on way bigger teams then the Infinity watch.

The Surfer was knocked unconscious by being held underwater once.

His low showings far eclipses Despero's ONE low showing.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No they arent. Power gem is one helluva an amp.
Only time it was ever good was in the gauntlet

Originally posted by Gecko4lif
Only time it was ever good was in the gauntlet So you are saying that when Thor had it that it wasnt a good showing?

Originally posted by Estacado
Despero has took on way bigger teams then the Infinity watch. I doubt he has taken on more than the watch,surfer,and dr strange at once.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
How is Despero being oneshotted by Supes a low showing, everyone has already explained the circumstances behind it and it makes sense. On the otherhand the fact that Thanos was almost speedblitz by Gemera and being cut by wolverine is a very low showing, not to mention being ass raped by Drax. Being oneshotted by Supes is a low showing if you consider his history. Thanos killed Gamora when they fought for real and being cut by Wolverine was all that happened. Thanos then turned his bones into rubber if memory serves me correct.

Originally posted by llagrok
The Surfer was knocked unconscious by being held underwater once.

His low showings far eclipses Despero's ONE low showing. His appearances dwarf desperos appearances. You are welcome to disagree.

Originally posted by Sundipped
If Despero was able to mind rape rape J'onn(along with Aquaman) then he should have no trouble raping either Surfer or Thor.

Zoom would make Thanos crap his pants something like Runner did.

Hank would just plain own whoever he faced. Supes didn't last long at all vs. Hank in the SCW till he got help. How would Thanos look with a fear energy dog chain around his neck? Hank woul dget owned by Thanos who is way more than just Superman. His feats make Hanks look well lame.

Originally posted by quanchi112
His appearances dwarf desperos appearances. You are welcome to disagree.
You haven't even read a single comic with Despero.
I bet you can't name me 1 arch with Despero in it.

Quanchi will continue to ignore Hank's feats no matter what.

That's simply how his mind works.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos was defeated at his weakest by Warlocks ghost. he killed Warlock once and his ghost had to stop Thanos. Not bad at all.


Thanos took everything Thor threw at him and was bored with it. He then ended it. The point is that Cyborg couldnt take the punishment that Thanos took with a grin on his face.

An early Thanos was defeated easily and was scared for his life. 'Nuff said. Early Borg fought Superman and DS used his most powerful attack at it's most potent (and it was specifically stated) to blindside him.

Not bad at all.

Thanos fought Thor..he was going to lose and thus he ran off to get a weapon to contain Thor. A gun > Power gem. Not the best of showings.

Thanos has been scared of dying to explosions that Henshaw would laugh at.

Lastly, slapping Thor and Thing away is ok but not as impressive as beating the sh*t out of Eradicator, Supergirl, Superboy, and Steel and having a good time effortlessly doing it.

Originally posted by llagrok
Quanchi will continue to ignore Hank's feats no matter what.

That's simply how his mind works.

It would seem so. Most of the rest of us agree that Henshaw is pretty damn uber. Especially if PIS is removed from the mix.

Originally posted by llagrok
Quanchi will continue to ignore Hank's feats no matter what.

That's simply how his mind works. Yep thats why i have him on ignore team 1 wins.

Originally posted by Avlon
beating the sh*t out of Eradicator, Supergirl, Superboy, and Steel and having a good time effortlessly doing it.


cyborg tricked eradicator and superboy (not sure about supergirl)

also, steel is a joke

Originally posted by Master-Borg
cyborg tricked eradicator and superboy (not sure about supergirl)

also, steel is a joke

No trickery here...

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He simply beats the sh*t out of all of them at the same time. No prep needed or used either. h

Originally posted by Avlon
An early Thanos was defeated easily and was scared for his life. 'Nuff said. Early Borg fought Superman and DS used his most powerful attack at it's most potent (and it was specifically stated) to blindside him.

Not bad at all.

Thanos fought Thor..he was going to lose and thus he ran off to get a weapon to contain Thor. A gun > Power gem. Not the best of showings.

Thanos has been scared of dying to explosions that Henshaw would laugh at.

Lastly, slapping Thor and Thing away is ok but not as impressive as beating the sh*t out of Eradicator, Supergirl, Superboy, and Steel and having a good time effortlessly doing it.



It would seem so. Most of the rest of us agree that Henshaw is pretty damn uber. Especially if PIS is removed from the mix. An early weakened Thanos was defeated after he already killed him. His ghost showed up and surprised him and beat him. Thats all. He has gotten a lot more powerful since then friend.

Thanos traded blows with Thor and he realized he had the power gem and that physical force couldnt beat him so when he tired of it he got his gun and ended Thor with oneshot.

I know Ds cheapshotted him but for him to oneshotted that easily its well a low showing imo.

I never compared Thanos bout with Thor and the Thing to Cyborg beating his team....I compared Thanos taking on Thor who beat the shit of a much more powerful team to that.

Originally posted by llagrok
Quanchi will continue to ignore Hank's feats no matter what.

That's simply how his mind works. I dont ignore his high feats I just feel they arent comparable to Thanos' high feats.

Originally posted by Avlon
No trickery here...

http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/1174/superman107p14lc6.th.jpghttp://img264.imageshack.us/img264/8757/superman107p15zk1.th.jpghttp://img264.imageshack.us/img264/6358/superman107p19ek2.th.jpghttp://img264.imageshack.us/img264/6006/superman107p20hf5.th.jpg

He simply beats the sh*t out of all of them at the same time. No prep needed or used either. h This is impressive but other than Supergirl and eradicator they are just some bums.

Can you name me 1 arch in which Despero appeared in?

Originally posted by Estacado
Can you name me 1 arch in which Despero appeared in? Superman and Batman friend.

JLA/JSA Virtue and Vice.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Superman and Batman friend.

JLA/JSA Virtue and Vice.
Oh cool...
So after seeing how he beat Captain Marvel,Superman,Wonder Woman and Power Girl you still say he get's beaten by Thor.While you give Superman and edge over Thor.
In another thread (Thor vs Despero) you only give Thor a 4/10 over Despero just to don't make you look stupid.

Originally posted by Estacado
Oh cool...
So after seeing how he beat Captain Marvel,Superman,Wonder Woman and Power Girl you still say he get's beaten by Thor.While you give Superman and edge over Thor.
In another thread (Thor vs Despero) you only give Thor a 4/10 over Despero just to don't make you look stupid. Yes because he hasnt beaten Superman every single time they have faced friend. I give him the majority over Thor just like I would Superman but just like against Superman as with Thor he loses some of these.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes because he hasnt beaten Superman every single time they have faced friend. I give him the majority over Thor just like I would Superman but just like against Superman as with Thor he loses some of these.
Cause he has like a 5-1 record against him.

Originally posted by Estacado
Cause he has like a 5-1 record against him. He isnt undefeated is he? Nope. This isnt like Thanos vs the Surfer here where you just have one character always above the other. Supes made Despero look bad. I dont give him the majority either but know that it isnt out of the realm of possibility for Desepero to get beat by one of these elite top tiers.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes because he hasnt beaten Superman every single time they have faced friend. I give him the majority over Thor just like I would Superman but just like against Superman as with Thor he loses some of these.
Off course you do...
Originally posted by quanchi112
Thor finishes Despero.



Originally posted by quanchi112
He isnt undefeated is he? Nope. This isnt like Thanos vs the Surfer here where you just have one character always above the other. Supes made Despero look bad. I dont give him the majority either but know that it isnt out of the realm of possibility for Desepero to get beat by one of these elite top tiers.
It's called PIS but I know you can't comprehend it.

Originally posted by Estacado
Off course you do...




It's called PIS but I know you can't comprehend it. Friend you get to excited about all this. I am just disagreeing with you and its only comics. This isnt that big of a thing. So please refrain from insulting my intelligence and also refrain from antagonizing me in other intentional threads directed solely at me.

To me its canon and shows despero is certainly beatable. We must take into account all wins and all losses and not pick and choose.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Friend you get to excited about all this. I am just disagreeing with you and its only comics. This isnt that big of a thing. So please refrain from insulting my intelligence and also refrain from antagonizing me in other intentional threads directed solely at me.

To me its canon and shows despero is certainly beatable. We must take into account all wins and all losses and not pick and choose.
Off course.....but whenever Thanos has a low showing it's either PIS or non canon.haermm

Originally posted by Estacado
Off course.....but whenever Thanos has a low showing it's either PIS or non canon.haermm When have I ever said pis when we are speaking of Thanos. Bring up the low showings. I cant think of any. What are you referring to.

Originally posted by Estacado
See...I answer any questions you have but you really dont even respond to any of mine. I guess thats ho wyou are...you want me to answer your questions but when I ask one you respond by a smiley face. Sigh.

Low showing.

Thanos being cut by the Ovin mercenary.

Originally posted by llagrok
Low showing.

Thanos being cut by the Ovin mercenary. Huh?

Originally posted by quanchi112
An early weakened Thanos was defeated after he already killed him. His ghost showed up and surprised him and beat him. Thats all. He has gotten a lot more powerful since then friend.

And that is exactly why I used this as an example. Early versions of both our characters have been beaten. However, Thanos lost to someone and something far less powerful than a full powered OE and Superman early in his career.


Originally posted by quanchi112
traded blows with Thor and he realized he had the power gem and that physical force couldnt beat him so when he tired of it he got his gun and ended Thor with oneshot.

This is something that Borg could have done on the fly. It's still an unfinished battle with an outside weapon getting the true victory.


Originally posted by quanchi112
know Ds cheapshotted him but for him to oneshotted that easily its well a low showing imo.

Yep..he was cheapshotted by a full powered version of one of comics most powerful attacks and while fighting one of it's most powerful heroes simultaneously. More of a high showing.


Originally posted by quanchi112
never compared Thanos bout with Thor and the Thing to Cyborg beating his team....I compared Thanos taking on Thor who beat the shit of a much more powerful team to that.

Thanos never went the whole event (as usual) and had to have a weapon to do his dirty work. It's like when Richards used the ultimate nullifier on Abraxas.

Originally posted by Avlon
And that is exactly why I used this as an example. Early versions of both our characters have been beaten. However, Thanos lost to someone and something far less powerful than a full powered OE and Superman early in his career.




This is something that Borg could have done on the fly. It's still an unfinished battle with an outside weapon getting the true victory.




Yep..he was cheapshotted by a full powered version of one of comics most powerful attacks and while fighting one of it's most powerful heroes simultaneously. More of a high showing.




Thanos never went the whole event (as usual) and had to have a weapon to do his dirty work. It's like when Richards used the ultimate nullifier on Abraxas. Thanos lost to a ghost....

Thanos has been upgraded since his first death but has Cyborg been upgraded and if anything he was merged with Apokoliptian tech which should have made him better.

The omega effect has fizzled out and isnt all that it used to be until further notice.

Again I explained to you that Thanos couldnt beat him physically due to Thors power gem so Thanos would have been stupi dto try to finish him off that way. He took his blows and ended it when he wanted to.

Originally posted by quanchi112
An early weakened Thanos was defeated after he already killed him. His ghost showed up and surprised him and beat him. Thats all. He has gotten a lot more powerful since then friend.

Thanos traded blows with Thor and he realized he had the power gem and that physical force couldnt beat him so when he tired of it he got his gun and ended Thor with oneshot.

I know Ds cheapshotted him but for him to oneshotted that easily its well a low showing imo.

I never compared Thanos bout with Thor and the Thing to Cyborg beating his team....I compared Thanos taking on Thor who beat the shit of a much more powerful team to that.

You're doing it again. You're downgrading Darkseid by saying his taking Cyborg is a low showing for Henshaw. When in reality, he's owned alot of people with the OE, some of them even tougher than Henshaw.

Oh look Thanos had to run away. Pity he doesn't have a point to point teleport, or superspeed, or high level matter transmute, or the ability to control souls or absorb energy. Wow, amazingly enough, those are part of Darkseid's powerset.

Frankly, the IW jobbed. Dr. Strange alone should have taken out Thor, as should Warlock. That, is Starlin doing his bad writing.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
You're doing it again. You're downgrading Darkseid by saying his taking Cyborg is a low showing for Henshaw. When in reality, he's owned alot of people with the OE, some of them even tougher than Henshaw.

Oh look Thanos had to run away. Pity he doesn't have a point to point teleport, or superspeed, or high level matter transmute, or the ability to control souls or absorb energy. Wow, amazingly enough, those are part of Darkseid's powerset.

Frankly, the IW jobbed. Dr. Strange alone should have taken out Thor, as should Warlock. That, is Starlin doing his bad writing. Henshaw merged with Apokoliptian technology. So him being oneshotted when he merged with the best technology out there makes him look bad. If this was back in the day and he was omegad Id understand but the omega as I said has lost its sizzle over the years.


Jobbed,lost whatever if it doesnt fit your outcome you exucse it with jobbing. The point is Thanos didnt job to Thor while all the rest did job/lose.


Dr Strange recently lost to WW Hulk so now everytime he loses basically if you disagree the writer is insane,huh?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos lost to a ghost....

Thanos has been upgraded since his first death but has Cyborg been upgraded and if anything he was merged with Apokoliptian tech which should have made him better.

The omega effect has fizzled out and isnt all that it used to be until further notice.

Again I explained to you that Thanos couldnt beat him physically due to Thors power gem so Thanos would have been stupi dto try to finish him off that way. He took his blows and ended it when he wanted to.

Yes...Thanos lost to a ghost and a matter manip spell.
Henshaw lost to a blindside OE that hasn't lost potency (at least not at that time.) and was at full power due to a motherbox while fighting Superman.

I get that you hate DS. I too prefer Thanos over DS...it doesn't mean that I artificially upgrade or downgrade either one of them just to try and degrade another character.

Strangely enough when Thanos had the power gem...Thor ko'd Thanos briefly.... and he didn't need a gun to do it...

Originally posted by Avlon
Yes...Thanos lost to a ghost and a matter manip spell.
Henshaw lost to a blindside OE that hasn't lost potency (at least not at that time.) and was at full power due to a motherbox while fighting Superman.

I get that you hate DS. I too prefer Thanos over DS...it doesn't mean that I artificially upgrade or downgrade either one of them just to try and degrade another character.

Strangely enough when Thanos had the power gem...Thor ko'd Thanos briefly.... and he didn't need a gun to do it...

Thanos lost to a ghost and I will take that. The ghost came back and just starteld him and ended him. Thanos is the one who turned him into a ghost and Order and Chaos were involved I believe, lots of powerful forces allied to stop Thanos. Nothing new here.

Uhm I dont lie about which characters I like or dislike. I like Ds but hate Superman. Why would I lie.

Yes he was oneshotted but merged with new gods tech which is awesome...so shame on him.

The battle on ig was after he lowered hisgodlike senses and it was all for dramatic effect...Thanos won in the end.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos lost to a ghost and I will take that. The ghost came back and just starteld him and ended him. Thanos is the one who turned him into a ghost and Order and Chaos were involved I believe, lots of powerful forces allied to stop Thanos. Nothing new here.

Thanos did lose to a ghost and a spell. If there is shame to losing to a blindside from a fully powered OE..then it's even more shameful to lose to a spell from a dead man.

Originally posted by quanchi112
he was oneshotted but merged with new gods tech which is awesome...so shame on him.

It's no different than being merged with the awesome power of godhood and mastery over all and still managing to lose.

Originally posted by quanchi112
battle on ig was after he lowered hisgodlike senses and it was all for dramatic effect...Thanos won in the end.

He still had all his powers...and at the very least the power gem activated. Thor did manage to put him down briefly. Thor actually did better vs Power gem Thanos than the other way around. Too bad Doom got in the way.

Originally posted by Avlon
Thanos did lose to a ghost and a spell. If there is shame to losing to a blindside from a fully powered OE..then it's even more shameful to lose to a spell from a dead man.



It's no different than being merged with the awesome power of godhood and mastery over all and still managing to lose.



He still had all his powers...and at the very least the power gem activated. Thor did manage to put him down briefly. Thor actually did better vs Power gem Thanos than the other way around. Too bad Doom got in the way. First of f Cyborg should have been able to dismantle Superman especially since he was merged with new gods tech. He had more than enough time and it cost him.

Thanos had the abstracts Chaos and Order on his ass and Warlocks ghost caught him by surprise. Thanos had killed Warlock earlier so of course he was shocked as his ghost came back for him.

Thanos had Thor knocked through the floor one on one while Thor attacked with a team of heroes and had him on the ground for a second while Thanos had him beneath the ground by himself. If it had been just Thor and if Thanos hadnt lowered his senses then maybe youd have a point. Did you miss all the other heroes knocking him offguard while he lowered his powers.

Originally posted by quanchi112
First of f Cyborg should have been able to dismantle Superman especially since he was merged with new gods tech. He had more than enough time and it cost him.

Borg was doing just fine against Superman...who was amped at the time by both the Eradicators upgrade and the motherbox he had used recently...

So it's ok when Thanos gets caught by surprise, but not when it happens to borg or any other characters... let's look at your next response...

Originally posted by quanchi112
had the abstracts Chaos and Order on his ass and Warlocks ghost caught him by surprise. Thanos had killed Warlock earlier so of course he was shocked as his ghost came back for him.

And Thanos died to a much simpler attack from someone far weaker than DS. We went over this already.

Originally posted by quanchi112
had Thor knocked through the floor one on one while Thor attacked with a team of heroes and had him on the ground for a second while Thanos had him beneath the ground by himself. If it had been just Thor and if Thanos hadnt lowered his senses then maybe youd have a point. Did you miss all the other heroes knocking him offguard while he lowered his powers.

Like in your first response... Thanos should have been able to dismantle Thor and anyone else easily...but he didn't. Thor still Ko'd him briefly even with gauntlet. Thus...Thor did better than Thanos with the same power up.

Originally posted by Avlon
Borg was doing just fine against Superman...who was amped at the time by both the Eradicators upgrade and the motherbox he had used recently...

So it's ok when Thanos gets caught by surprise, but not when it happens to borg or any other characters... let's look at your next response...



And Thanos died to a much simpler attack from someone far weaker than DS. We went over this already.



Like in your first response... Thanos should have been able to dismantle Thor and anyone else easily...but he didn't. Thor still Ko'd him briefly even with gauntlet. Thus...Thor did better than Thanos with the same power up. Borg should have crushed Superman with his upgrade. Also this was when Supes wasnt as powerful as he had become years later.


Thanos was beaten by a ghost which is completely different to the Borg being beaten by Seid. He knew Seid was there and ignored him. He got what he deserved for his lack of attention to both Supes and Seid. We also dont know how powerful Warlocks ghost was compared to his physical form because as I said Thanos killed him.

Thor had major help and had him on the ground. If he was truly ko'd they would have taken the gauntlet. Again he lowered his senses to give the heroes a chance. Why do you ignore that part?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Borg should have crushed Superman with his upgrade. Also this was when Supes wasnt as powerful as he had become years later.

And Thanos should have crushed Thor with his...and Thor should have crushed Thanos when he had his upgrade.

Oh well. Too bad comics rarely make things that easy.

Originally posted by quanchi112
was beaten by a ghost which is completely different to the Borg being beaten by Seid. He knew Seid was there and ignored him. He got what he deserved for his lack of attention to both Supes and Seid. We also dont know how powerful Warlocks ghost was compared to his physical form because as I said Thanos killed him.

This is just ridiculous. When did Borg know that seid was there as he fought Supes? How does that make Warlocks ghost more powerful? How does this make a low showing for Henshaw?

Crap like this is why the mod's are keeping an eye on you. Seriously...that whole part of the post was just terrible.


Originally posted by quanchi112
had major help and had him on the ground. If he was truly ko'd they would have taken the gauntlet. Again he lowered his senses to give the heroes a chance. Why do you ignore that part?

Nothing has been ignored...Thanos turned off his omniscience... a blow from Mjolnir ko'd him briefly even while possessing the rest of the gauntlet's power.

Like in your first post...shame on Thanos for knowing Thor was there and ignoring him.

Originally posted by Avlon
And Thanos should have crushed Thor with his...and Thor should have crushed Thanos when he had his upgrade.

Oh well. Too bad comics rarely make things that easy.



This is just ridiculous. When did Borg know that seid was there as he fought Supes? How does that make Warlocks ghost more powerful? How does this make a low showing for Henshaw?

Crap like this is why the mod's are keeping an eye on you. Seriously...that whole part of the post was just terrible.




Nothing has been ignored...Thanos turned off his omniscience... a blow from Mjolnir ko'd him briefly even while possessing the rest of the gauntlet's power.

Like in your first post...shame on Thanos for knowing Thor was there and ignoring him. Thanos took on heroes in packs and it wasnt as if he fought Thor one on one as Thanos did when he had the power gem. The thing in common with both fights is that Thanos was the victor in both friend.

Borg was shot right off the bat by the oe but he was spared because Darkseid had not fully recovered so he knew he was there and he was on his planet so him being unaware of Darkseid is plain ridiculous.

You continue to ignore facts so in response to my post you bring up the mods.

Thanos was shocked by Warlocks ghost because he was dead and returned from the grave to stop him.

Thanos was on the ground after a blow from his hammer and he then responded by killing Thor. While we have Cyborg getting beaten by one shit and being at Darkseid's mercy while Thanos always seems to get out of situations on his own.

Watching Quanchi and Avlon debate is much like watching a man with a stick try to stop a tank.

Originally posted by llagrok
Watching Quanchi and Avlon debate is much like watching a man with a stick try to stop a tank. Sigh.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos took on heroes in packs and it wasnt as if he fought Thor one on one as Thanos did when he had the power gem. The thing in common with both fights is that Thanos was the victor in both friend.

Actually, a gun was a victor in one battle...and in the other one..Thor scored a KO.

Originally posted by quanchi112
was shot right off the bat by the oe but he was spared because Darkseid had not fully recovered so he knew he was there and he was on his planet so him being unaware of Darkseid is plain ridiculous.

Back to an older post... Thanos knew Thor was there and still was Ko'd. Thanos knew Warlock was there (and was quite scared from the look of it) and lost.


Originally posted by quanchi112
continue to ignore facts so in response to my post you bring up the mods.

The only one ignoring facts is you amigo. I was simply pointing out an observation.

Originally posted by quanchi112
was shocked by Warlocks ghost because he was dead and returned from the grave to stop him.

And then he lost. Just like with Drax. Thanos doesn't seem to handle surprise well. Must be why he needs so much prep all the time and an escape plan.

Originally posted by quanchi112
was on the ground after a blow from his hammer and he then responded by killing Thor. While we have Cyborg getting beaten by one shit and being at Darkseid's mercy while Thanos always seems to get out of situations on his own.

I never said he didn't kill Thor later... point still stands though...Thor scored a brief KO on Thanos and Doom's interference kept the gauntlet in Thanos hands.

Thanos needed to go get an outside weapon. Weapon > Power gem. Not good.

Originally posted by Avlon
Actually, a gun was a victor in one battle...and in the other one..Thor scored a KO.



Back to an older post... Thanos knew Thor was there and still was Ko'd. Thanos knew Warlock was there (and was quite scared from the look of it) and lost.




The only one ignoring facts is you amigo. I was simply pointing out an observation.



And then he lost. Just like with Drax. Thanos doesn't seem to handle surprise well. Must be why he needs so much prep all the time and an escape plan.



I never said he didn't kill Thor later... point still stands though...Thor scored a brief KO on Thanos and Doom's interference kept the gauntlet in Thanos hands.

Thanos needed to go get an outside weapon. Weapon > Power gem. Not good. Actually in one battle Thanos was fine and grabbed a gun to end the battle as Thor had the power gem. Thanos took a beating and just had a bloody nose showing off his insane durability.

Thanos was on the ground momentarily and wasnt ko'd. If he was Doom would have gotten the ig. Thanos defeated Thor and killed him in ig. Answer me this did Thor have tons of help during this fight or was it one on one?


Thanos was trying to free Galactus and Drax's powers had recently changed with his resurrection. So Thanos turning his back to Drax and him killing him was well a cheapshot and one due to the fact that Thanos was trying to erase the damage he had done by aiding the mad Annihilus.

Again in closing if you temporarily stun someone but the other guy wins the fight then it wasnt a knockout.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Actually in one battle Thanos was fine and grabbed a gun to end the battle as Thor had the power gem. Thanos took a beating and just had a bloody nose showing off his insane durability.

So again..to the point...the gun won the battle. Not Thanos.

Originally posted by quanchi112
was on the ground momentarily and wasnt ko'd. If he was Doom would have gotten the ig. Thanos defeated Thor and killed him in ig. Answer me this did Thor have tons of help during this fight or was it one on one?


Thanos was trying to free Galactus and Drax's powers had recently changed with his resurrection. So Thanos turning his back to Drax and him killing him was well a cheapshot and one due to the fact that Thanos was trying to erase the damage he had done by aiding the mad Annihilus.

Again in closing if you temporarily stun someone but the other guy wins the fight then it wasnt a knockout.

So again you are saying that it's ok for Thanos (by your example) to be blindsided and yet..it's a low showing if it happens to other characters?

Superman and the OE and full power > Ghost and stone spell.
Henshaw was blindsided..... Thanos saw it coming.

Team 1 ftw.

Originally posted by Avlon
So again..to the point...the gun won the battle. Not Thanos.



So again you are saying that it's ok for Thanos (by your example) to be blindsided and yet..it's a low showing if it happens to other characters?

Superman and the OE and full power > Ghost and stone spell.
Henshaw was blindsided..... Thanos saw it coming.

Team 1 ftw. Originally posted by Avlon
So again..to the point...the gun won the battle. Not Thanos.



So again you are saying that it's ok for Thanos (by your example) to be blindsided and yet..it's a low showing if it happens to other characters?

Superman and the OE and full power > Ghost and stone spell.
Henshaw was blindsided..... Thanos saw it coming.

Team 1 ftw. Thanos took what punishment Thor dished out. Yes he took out his tech and won the battle. Its funny because when you talk about the Borg its ok if he uses tech or merges with new gods tech but if Thanos made the friggin thing it taints the victory.



Thanos already killed Warlock. Id the Borg had already killed someone I could see it but if someones ghost comes back I am sure they are going to be a little surprised. That again was Thanos at his weakest. Thanos became much more powerful so that isnt relevant to the Thanos that we last saw.


Again you ignored my question about if Thor had help or not when he took on Thanos.

Thanos' tech isn't a part of him and he doesn't create it on the fly.

Learn to differ.

Originally posted by llagrok
Thanos' tech isn't a part of him and he doesn't create it on the fly.

Learn to differ. Ok.....but his tech is always on him and he always uses it. Thors hammer isnt a part of him and he didnt even create it but he gets it in every fight. So it would seem that Thor doesnt fight your own criteria of what can be applied here. Thanos added the gun's blast to his own personal tech and tried it on Odin. Thanos always uses his personal tech friend.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos took what punishment Thor dished out. Yes he took out his tech and won the battle. Its funny because when you talk about the Borg its ok if he uses tech or merges with new gods tech but if Thanos made the friggin thing it taints the victory.

Llag took care of this already.

Originally posted by llagrok
Thanos' tech isn't a part of him and he doesn't create it on the fly.

Learn to differ.



Originally posted by quanchi112
already killed Warlock. Id the Borg had already killed someone I could see it but if someones ghost comes back I am sure they are going to be a little surprised. That again was Thanos at his weakest. Thanos became much more powerful so that isnt relevant to the Thanos that we last saw.

He still lost to a stone spell placed on him by a ghost.
Borg has become far more powerful since his early days as well.

Originally posted by quanchi112
you ignored my question about if Thor had help or not when he took on Thanos.

I ignored nothing. It's hypocritical that you bring this up since it took Superman AND the OE to bring down Borg.

It proves nothing...and it's quite clear that it's bias on your end of things.

Originally posted by Avlon
Llag took care of this already.







He still lost to a stone spell placed on him by a ghost.
Borg has become far more powerful since his early days as well.



I ignored nothing. It's hypocritical that you bring this up since it took Superman AND the OE to bring down Borg.

It proves nothing...and it's quite clear that it's bias on your end of things. Thanos always uses his tech and I destroyed his reasoning. Thanos added this to his own personal tech. If Iron Man creates a new suit and adds it to his person or uses a new gizmo does it not count.

Tell me of the Borgs upgrades since Hunter and Prey.

To me it seems the other way around with the bias thing.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos always uses his tech and I destroyed his reasoning. Thanos added this to his own personal tech. If Iron Man creates a new suit and adds it to his person or uses a new gizmo does it not count.

He had to run to get that gun. Vs. Borg...adding more tech is empowering to Borg, so it would be counterproductive on Thanos end.

Where did you "destroy" Llags reasoning?


Originally posted by quanchi112
me of the Borgs upgrades since Hunter and Prey.

There is a whole respect thread for that. Needless to say...Henshaw remembers everything from birth with absolute precision. That's a lot of tech he's been through...

Originally posted by quanchi112
me it seems the other way around with the bias thing.

Anyone who reads the posts can see where the bias stands friend. It isn't with me.

Originally posted by Avlon
He had to run to get that gun. Vs. Borg...adding more tech is empowering to Borg, so it would be counterproductive on Thanos end.

Where did you "destroy" Llags reasoning?




There is a whole respect thread for that. Needless to say...Henshaw remembers everything from birth with absolute precision. That's a lot of tech he's been through...



Anyone who reads the posts can see where the bias stands friend. It isn't with me. Originally posted by Avlon
He had to run to get that gun. Vs. Borg...adding more tech is empowering to Borg, so it would be counterproductive on Thanos end.

Where did you "destroy" Llags reasoning?




There is a whole respect thread for that. Needless to say...Henshaw remembers everything from birth with absolute precision. That's a lot of tech he's been through...



Anyone who reads the posts can see where the bias stands friend. It isn't with me. Thanos created the gun and he tried it out on Thor. It worked and he added to his personal tech so for forum battles he has this ability on his person and doesnt need the gun.

My post to Llagrok.


Ok so there has been no official upgrade but in your opinion hes gotten stronger over the years due to the tech hes been through. Thanos has had an official upgrade and two unofficial ones.

My bad for the double quotes its just I have been losing my connection. I have been selecting all and copying it and pasting. If this continues Ill stay offline for a bit.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos created the gun and he tried it out on Thor. It worked and he added to his personal tech so for forum battles he has this ability on his person and doesnt need the gun.

My post to Llagrok.


Ok so there has been no official upgrade but in your opinion hes gotten stronger over the years due to the tech hes been through. Thanos has had an official upgrade and two unofficial ones.

Why are you quoting me more than once in some of your posts? *ignore that - Just saw your new post on this*

The gun is still what won the battle. Thanos needed to go get outside tech. Thor was even nice enough to wait around and let him use it.

Borg has had many tech upgrades through the years and now he's got a ton of power rings.

Team 1 ftw.

Avlon u already won the debate as far as I can see, I still dont know what Quan is arguing about...is he that desperate to downplay everyone else except Thanos.

Nice try Quan if Avlon knew nothing about comics you would have won.

Originally posted by Avlon
Why are you quoting me more than once in some of your posts? *ignore that - Just saw your new post on this*

The gun is still what won the battle. Thanos needed to go get outside tech. Thor was even nice enough to wait around and let him use it.

Borg has had many tech upgrades through the years and now he's got a ton of power rings.

Team 1 ftw. Ok...I know that Thanos needed to go get his gun. But for forum battles he has it. Thor still hardly phased him and just made his nose bleed basically.

Thanos has had considerable upgrade(s) pver the years and has more impressive battle feats than Borg.

Team 2ftw.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
Avlon u already won the debate as far as I can see, I still dont know what Quan is arguing about...is he that desperate to downplay everyone else except Thanos. Are you familiar with the comics that we are both debating.

Originally posted by iceman24567
Nice try Quan if Avlon knew nothing about comics you would have won. I thought you had me on ignore.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Are you familiar with the comics that we are both debating.

I could ask you the same question, besides for all of this incredible tech thanos had still got busted open by a simple punch from Drax.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
I could ask you the same question, besides for all of this incredible tech thanos had still got busted open by a simple punch from Drax. Because he was created to kill Thanos. He is the only being who could do this. Hes his knite and it was while his back was turned.

Well wolverine managed to pierce right through Thanos as well, and Thanos was KO'ed by thor even when Thanos had the PG with him. I guess those dudes were his Knite as well, then again I shouldnt be surprised considering Thanos consideres hulk his physical rival.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
Well wolverine managed to pierce right through Thanos as well, and Thanos was KO'ed by thor even when Thanos had the PG with him. I guess those dudes were his Knite as well, then again I shouldnt be surprised considering Thanos consideres hulk his physical rival. Wolverine cut him but he was fine. Do you get the difference between a heart punch out and claws to the chest.

Thanos was fine and killed Thor. thor also was backed up by a lot of marvel heroes all while Thanos lowered his godhood just to give them a chance. He won by the way.

The Hulk is a physical monster but Thanos woul down him if he stood in his way and was pimpslapped along with Drax as well.