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I just don't understand. Why is it every time I see Superman on TV or in movies he is getting his ass whooped. I thought Superman was supposed to one of the best hand to hand combatants (up there with Goku) around. Maybe Supes should think about taking some Karate lessons. Some examples:

beaten by some women
http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/4791/pdvd000ri4.png

lois put up a better fight (supes is laying on the floor to the bottom left)
http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/2650/pdvd003rj4.png

superman being skull dragged
http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/6156/pdvd004hx3.png

on his knees
http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/4671/pdvd005cq2.png

Because Ole Kal-El has gotten soft.

How does he lift an island of Kryptonite and get monkey stomped by a human ?

Hes supposed the be the man of steele but appearently he became the woman of silk.

Because Superman's H2H skills consist of a simple pattern:

Haymaker

Block with face

Haymaker

Block with face

And it pretty much goes on like that until someone loses.

Originally posted by jedi90
I just don't understand. Why is it every time I see Superman on TV or in movies he is getting his ass whooped. I thought Superman was supposed to one of the best hand to hand combatants (up there with Goku) around. Maybe Supes should think about taking some Karate lessons. Some examples:

beaten by some women
http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/4791/pdvd000ri4.png he was down powered so did not look so powerfull


Originally posted by jedi90
lois put up a better fight (supes is laying on the floor to the bottom left)
http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/2650/pdvd003rj4.png] he was faking in that shot he is CK so e has to look weak


Originally posted by jedi90
superman being skull dragged
http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/6156/pdvd004hx3.png]
if i am not wronghe was on a GK island

Originally posted by jedi90
on his knees
http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/4671/pdvd005cq2.png same with this one

try again. he wasn't powered down, those chicks straight up dusted him off.

it's a sad day when his woman has to do all the fighting.

yeah, he was on GK island, but it took 3 kicks to the face before he put his hand in front of it. i still don't understand why he didn't fight back.

also not even 5 minutes later he picks up the island and throws it into space. WTF.

The female furies are the elite warriors of Apokolips. Not to mention the cartoon isn't canon.

Originally posted by jedi90
try again. he wasn't powered down, those chicks straight up dusted him off.

it's a sad day when his woman has to do all the fighting.

yeah, he was on GK island, but it took 3 kicks to the face before he put his hand in front of it. i still don't understand why he didn't fight back.

also not even 5 minutes later he picks up the island and throws it into space. WTF.

Slapped , kicked, stomped, dragged and humilated on a rock save the fact that the LOVE TRIANGLE (btw is popular in movies these days) is completley atrocious.

Cmon man, I know you didnt expect this EMO, Metro sexual society to allow a testosterone movie these days. Thats why the re-inventing old 80's movies is stupid.

They have been softened up to beter accomodate the sensitive types.

Or maybe it is because Superman phails at fighting skills?

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
Or maybe it is because Superman phails at fighting skills?


QFT

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
Or maybe it is because Superman phails at fighting skills?

he doesn't, actually... the movies and tv just dont't get that...

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
Because Superman's H2H skills consist of a simple pattern:

Haymaker

Block with face

Haymaker

Block with face

And it pretty much goes on like that until someone loses.
Superman takes the Don Frye/Takayama approach?

FAIL.

Cartoon Supes is not even a shadow of the real deal. Not to mention the furies are no pushovers what so ever.

Clark got beat up in Superman 2 because at the time he was completely depowered, the guy got a cheapshot on him and movie Supes/Clark never showed any fighting skills whatsoever. This is the DumbAss Clark Kent for those who don't remember.

And in Superman Returns the guy was actually getting poisoned to the point of almost dying because of the exposure to kryptonite.

Massive FAIL.

Go back to the SF forums and pray Vader doesn't kill you for making him and the SW community look dumb.

Its because Superman is the biggest sissy of all time. without his powers, he is nothing.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Its because Superman is the biggest sissy of all time. without his powers, he is nothing.
Right superman totally hasnt beat peoples asses when depowered....o wait,fail more.

Originally posted by jedi90
beaten by some women
http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/4791/pdvd000ri4.png

He's just superrelaxed after a superfemale D/s session.

Originally posted by Superboy Prime
FAIL.

Cartoon Supes is not even a shadow of the real deal. Not to mention the furies are no pushovers what so ever. your right, the furies are no pushovers but apparently supes is, supergirl beat them all by herself in the same episode. i take it you are saying comic book superman is badass? okay, i'll post some scans. more times than not, he getting his ass kicked in his own book.
Originally posted by Superboy Prime
FAIL.

Clark got beat up in Superman 2 because at the time he was completely depowered, the guy got a cheapshot on him and movie Supes/Clark never showed any fighting skills whatsoever. This is the DumbAss Clark Kent for those who don't remember. i have yet to see a smart clark kent/ superman. it seems everyone gets a cheap shot on him, with or without powers. clark is the one who tried to square off with him, so unless supes has the advantage he can't win a man to man fight and he didn't even confront the man again until after he got is powers back.
Originally posted by Superboy Prime
FAIL.

And in Superman Returns the guy was actually getting poisoned to the point of almost dying because of the exposure to kryptonite. funny you say that, but then maybe you didn't see him left that giant island of kryptonite less than five minutes after he got his ass kicked.
Originally posted by Superboy Prime
FAIL.

Massive FAIL.

Go back to the SF forums and pray Vader doesn't kill you for making him and the SW community look dumb.
you should demand DC comics and warners bros. issue all superman fans a public apology. after that you are to become a supergirl fan, burn any superman comic past 1985, and change your name to superwuss prime.

how boring would it be if superman's fights were all done in the first couple of pages or first few minutes of a cartoon, a tv episode or a movie? very boring...

You'd think flying towards GK he would notice that it is made of kryptonite and could kill him...sometimes superman can just do the most retarded things ever, maybe he likes getting punched and kicked because it gives him that funny feeling inside his pants

Originally posted by vlaaad12345
Right superman totally hasnt beat peoples asses when depowered....o wait,fail more. Superman as a fighter phails utterly, any REAL LIFE person could kick his ass if he was human.

Superman Prime would kick all other Supermen short of One Million's or Pre-Crisis ass jedi.

lol are you a mentaly disabled child? Saying any one could kick Supermans ass with out his powers is like saying I can stop a train from moving thats not moving. Superman has been trained by WonderWoman, Batman and Mongul and is 6ft some thing and would be in the heavyweight category in boxing. There is no way a mentaly disabled 14yr old like your self would last even five seconds.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
Superman as a fighter phails utterly, any REAL LIFE person could kick his ass if he was human.

Superman Prime would kick all other Supermen short of One Million's or Pre-Crisis ass jedi.
Any real life person could beat him lol right,superman when depowered fights on a level near batman and shit he would take a room full of us internet nerds with no diffuculty whatsoever.

Originally posted by vlaaad12345
Any real life person could beat him lol right,superman when depowered fights on a level near batman and shit he would take a room full of us internet nerds with no diffuculty whatsoever.

But in superman II when he became depowered he got his ass kicked by that trucker dude didn't he? So if he was depowered then wouldn't that mean that he could get his ass kicked?

Originally posted by jedi90
I just don't understand. Why is it every time I see Superman on TV or in movies he is getting his ass whooped. I thought Superman was supposed to one of the best hand to hand combatants (up there with Goku) around. Maybe Supes should think about taking some Karate lessons. Some examples:

beaten by some women
http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/4791/pdvd000ri4.png

lois put up a better fight (supes is laying on the floor to the bottom left)
http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/2650/pdvd003rj4.png

superman being skull dragged
http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/6156/pdvd004hx3.png

on his knees
http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/4671/pdvd005cq2.png its because dc has to cater to the masses to gain revenue for the creation of the movie, tv show, etc.

it would be embarrassing for dc if they depicted superman lifting planets and beating his opponents in a tenth of a second in the cartoons/movies because kids these days are more savvy and mature. any 8 year old these days would be turned off by that.

the main weakness of superman: the writers making him a god(as others put it), they created the "too powerful for no reason" problem and only they can fix it.

Superman wouldn't be Superman if he were any less powerful than a God. Superman would also not be Superman if he didnt get his ass beat to the point of near death. So, i guess the contradiciton is a necessity. As a fan of superman. It is always an adrenaline rush to see Superman get his ass beat. This is because i know the more he gets spanked the more triumphant his retaliation will be. Superman never quits. His drive, determination and resilience are of his strongest characteristics. We would never know this if he were never tested physically.

I only wish the writing in the Superman Comics was worth reading. The Superman comics have just recently stopped being ultra corny and childish. I think with good writing, Superman could be one of the most interesting comics on the mainstream or independent market. I am not saying this just as a fan, because i think he is currently one of the most lame.

Originally posted by ragesRemorse
The Superman comics have just recently stopped being ultra corny and childish.

By recently you mean....

Somewhere around thirty years now?

The 'corny' and 'childish' comics were almost exclusively pre-COIE, and even the couple years leading up to COIE were notably more serious.

The work by kurt busiek and Brian Azzarello was good. I'm forgetting another writer, he was responsible for, i believe it was tomorrow people. Other than that i have to turn to the graphic novels for a mature Superman.

Spite thread. Fail.
There are logical reasons behind all the scans you posted at the start, and they've already been answered.

I thought you were going to ask legitimate questions about his fighting style - which is mostly passive because he tries to get an enemy to wear themselves down or give up - instead of all this hatin.'