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I read an article where makers of the Bourne movies were blaming the Bond franchise for copying the Bourne movies, in that James Bond became such a bad ass in Casino Royal.

Like Jason Bourne invented Bad Ass-ness????

James Bond for the win.

If it's hand to hand I would have to go with Jason Bourne.

I really didn't care for the last Bourne movie but he sure can kick some ass.

Bond.

Bourne is an emo.

Originally posted by McLovin
If it's hand to hand I would have to go with Jason Bourne.

I really didn't care for the last Bourne movie but he sure can kick some ass.

Okay, off screen, who'd win between Daniel Craig and Matt Damon?

it it involves being able to use gadgets,then Bond wins cause like someone said,he's smarter.If its just fist fights,Borne wins easily.and if anything the Borne movies copied off James Bond because Bond demonstrated his martial arts skills early on in the Bond movies with The Man With The Golden Gun which is why thats one of my favorite Bond movies.

Daniel Craig James Bond, would own Jason Bourne. Any other Bond though, Bourne wins hands down.

Originally posted by =Tired Hiker=
Okay, off screen, who'd win between Daniel Craig and Matt Damon?

Hmm got to go with Damon,got to go with the youth movement.

Originally posted by =Tired Hiker=
Okay, off screen, who'd win between Daniel Craig and Matt Damon?

Are you kidding me? Damon is a total pansy, did you see him cry and moan like a little ***** when Jimmy Kimmel zinged him?

Originally posted by Robtard
Daniel Craig James Bond, would own Jason Bourne. Any other Bond though, Bourne wins hands down.

I agree, although Timothy Dalton may have put up a good fight.

Originally posted by Robtard
Are you kidding me? Damon is a total pansy, did you see him cry and moan like a little ***** when Jimmy Kimmel zinged him?

Hell no I'm not kidding you, I think Craig would kick the sh*t out of him.

Calm down, man! *slap* We're on the same page here.

actually when i think about it age really isnt an issue.Craig would stare Damon down and make him cry.LOL.

Originally posted by Mr Parker
Hmm got to go with Damon,got to go with the youth movement. Originally posted by Mr Parker
actually when i think about it age really isnt an issue.Craig would stare Damon down and make him cry.LOL.

Methinks you are of two minds on the subject.

Originally posted by Mr Parker
Hmm got to go with Damon,got to go with the youth movement. H-he's 2 years younger.

I'd say Bourne seems better trained, I guess he'd take that. Certainly against any Bond before Craig.

The Bourne films (to a lesser extent the first) are better movies than ANY Bond, I kid you not.

Jason Bourne dicks on James Bond.

But Daniel Craig flips a zinger on Damon off screen. He's British for christ sakes!

Note: I don't consider James Bond British.

Originally posted by =Tired Hiker=
Okay, off screen, who'd win between Daniel Craig and Matt Damon?

Daniel Craig is more "street" than Matt Damon so I think Craig would like stab him with a broken bottle or something lol.

He would indeed! my favourite Bond! bla to you all.

James Bond, my answer.

Craig Bond is the best one and give him gadgets and he takes Bourne everytime.

Craig was.. my.. least favorite of them all?

Plus Casino Royale was total shite imo.

Meh. I say Bourne wins if it's him vs. Craig bond.

Originally posted by exanda kane
The Bourne films (to a lesser extent the first) are better movies than ANY Bond, I kid you not.

Jason Bourne dicks on James Bond.

But Daniel Craig flips a zinger on Damon off screen. He's British for christ sakes!

Note: I don't consider James Bond British.

Not sure if "better film" is proper grounds in deciding you'd win in a hypothetical fight between two fictional characters.

If so, then Bourne could beat down Batman, even Bale-Batman. Which would never happen, since Batman kicks ass, it's just what he does.

Originally posted by Robtard
Not sure if "better film" is proper grounds in deciding you'd win in a hypothetical fight between two fictional characters.

If so, then Bourne could beat down Batman, even Bale-Batman. Which would never happen, since Batman kicks ass, it's just what he does. Not sure about the Bourne movies being better than Batman begins, I subscribe to the rest of the post though.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Not sure about the Bourne movies being better than Batman begins, I subscribe to the rest of the post though.

It was a hypothetical, I could have said Forrest Gump beats up Bourne, if someoner were to think the former was a better movie.

Originally posted by Robtard
It was a hypothetical, I could have said Forrest Gump beats up Bourne, if someoner were to think the former was a better movie. I know. I agreed with that. But you seem to say that Bourne is the better movie including Begins.

Originally posted by Bardock42
I know. I agreed with that. But you seem to say that Bourne is the better movie including Begins.

Wasn't my intention to give my opinion on which is better. But yes, the Bournes were better than Batman begins; we're really splitting hairs though, as Batman Begins is a good F'ing movie.

Originally posted by Robtard
Wasn't my intention to give my opinion on which is better. But yes, the Bournes were better than Batman begins; we're really splitting hairs though, as Batman Begins is a good F'ing movie. Fair enough.

In my opinion the only instance Bourne wins in Hand to Hand only.

With gadgets or even just guns my vote goes to Bond.


I lol'ed and Bourne accusing Bond of copying. That would be like Warhammer suing Tolkien for LotR, lol. Bourne is a spawn of Bond, nothing more, and it never will be more.

Besides Bourne and Bond being (super) government agents, where are the similaries?

Completely different books.

Subtle but there, none the less. I can pretty much guarnetee any Spy like character created after the late 60's or early 70's is based if only loosely on Bond.

As my English teacher told me:

"Everything, is base on something"

Truly, there's no such thing as an original idea.

Originally posted by EvilAngel
Subtle but there, none the less. I can pretty much guarnetee any Spy like character created after the late 60's or early 70's is based if only loosely on Bond.

As my English teacher told me:

"Everything, is base on something"

Truly, there's no such thing as an original idea.

Couldn't they be based off whatever spy-like character came before Flemming penned Bond?

So Winnie the Poo is based off Balu from the Jungle Book , afterall, they're both fictional bears.

What about the original idea?

I don't know of a Spy character that predates Bond. It's entirely possible, but I'm just saying i do not know of one. Flemming got the majority of his idea's from his work in WWII.

Lol, now now, no need for sarcasm.

Original idea being, the Spy(Or assassin in this instance) who can do all these things, has all these skills, and all the webs of confusion that is politics and the secrets of government etc...

Jason Bourne is the more realistic version and I consider it the Bond for Adults!

Anyway, overall, I would say Bourne is superior.

Intelligence
I would think Bourne is a hell lot smarter than Bond. This is a guy who started with NO memory to working out everything by himself. He doesn't have any fancy agency telling him info, he gathers all intelligence by himself (and through very clever means I might add).
Also, Bourne doesnt have any of the fancy gadgets that Bond has, hes a very adaptive person and will make do with anything.

Hand to Hand
Theres no need to discuss this. Anyone who has ever watched a Bourne movie will know he is in a different league to Bond in this department. Not to mention most of the people Bourne fights are top class assassins that are highly trained in fighting almost aswell as he is, but he always manages to get the edge.

Weapon Efficiency
Bond has been shown to use guns more often as Bourne. I guess its not really his style. But one should not forget the scene in the Bourne Identity in which Bourne bags a headshot while free falling from a great height. I don't think Bond has any feat to top that.
Also, Bourne can use almost any item lying around as a weapon.

Durability
Bourne is also far superior in this category. This is a person who walks away from a high speed car crash AFTER being shot in the back, and after that he is chased by police and even takes them out effortlessly despite his injuries.

In addition, he also walked away after falling from many stories (even though he had a human cushion).

And finally I'd like to add that if James Bond ever faced the enemies Bourne faced he'd be dead very soon. How often has Bond been caught but left to live? He usually gets caught, then the villain explains his evil schemes. Finally when the villain tries to kill bond by using a comical way, it always gets foiled.
Bourne's enemies have no interest of capturing him, there is always a kill order on him.

Bond has gotten used to the "luxuries" of his providing agency, he wouldnt survive in the underworld like Bourne did.