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what the hell are these Batman R.I.P ads I have been seeing in this weeks DC comics?

Put up some scans.. DC is possibly planning on killing Batman and putting Dick Grayson in the Batsuit. It won't work. DC tried the same thing with Superman years ago and then had to bring him back.

Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
Put up some scans.. DC is possibly planning on killing Batman and putting Dick Grayson in the Batsuit. It won't work. DC tried the same thing with Superman years ago and then had to bring him back.

But Superman is one person... And ONLY Clark Kent can be Superman (for obvious reasons)... Bruce Wayne may be Batman, but Batman is NOT Bruce Wayne...

Batman transcends Bruce Wayne... Batman is an ideal, a thought process, a symbol, not a person... ANYONE can be Batman... I think killing Bruce Wayne (and having a villain do it) would give Grayson and Drake a reason to CONTINUE, and inspire others to do better, or join in the fight... So personally, I think this is actually a pretty good idea... And let's not forget that they can always have a "Wayne Era" Batman line published to sooth the backlash...

So all the fans complaining, ESPECIALLY over at BOF (I comment on them a lot), are thinking killing Bruce Wayne kills Batman... But as I've already stated, Batman transcends what one character can do... It's an ongoing struggle, not the biography of one man...

And they can even bring back the all black suit... To differentiate the new and old...

Respectfully disagree.

Batman is about a boy losing his parents, not knowing how to deal with it, going slightly insane, and fighting criminals as a giant bat.

He as a person is intelligent, athletic, a genius detective and superb martial artist and is a multi-millionaire to boot.

His name: Bruce Wayne.


To me, THAT is batman. Nobody else can be or do that.

Originally posted by Bat Dude
But Superman is one person... And ONLY Clark Kent can be Superman (for obvious reasons)... Bruce Wayne may be Batman, but Batman is NOT Bruce Wayne...

Batman transcends Bruce Wayne... Batman is an ideal, a thought process, a symbol, not a person... ANYONE can be Batman... I think killing Bruce Wayne (and having a villain do it) would give Grayson and Drake a reason to CONTINUE, and inspire others to do better, or join in the fight... So personally, I think this is actually a pretty good idea... And let's not forget that they can always have a "Wayne Era" Batman line published to sooth the backlash...

So all the fans complaining, ESPECIALLY over at BOF (I comment on them a lot), are thinking killing Bruce Wayne kills Batman... But as I've already stated, Batman transcends what one character can do... It's an ongoing struggle, not the biography of one man...

And they can even bring back the all black suit... To differentiate the new and old...


My friend I have to disagree somewhat. Killing Bruce Wayne will anger so many people. I'm sure there will be some sort of backlash. I'm sure Dick would be a great Batman but killing Wayne so DC can make some money off it just may not work. Especially since Batman Begins was so successful and The Dark Knight will also be very successful, DC should've change their plans some. BATMAN WILL ALWAYS BE BRUCE WAYNE AND VICE VERSA. If they do do this I hope they give Grayson some sort of armored suit t denote that is a changing of the guard. But also lets not forget the mistake that DC make after they broke Bruce's back and Bruce gave the mantle to Jean-Paul Valley. That just didn't work (even though I liked Azrael and I love the Bat armor), seeim=ng someone else in that suit just doesn't sound right and I'm sure after a few months DC will retcon everything to say that Bruce Wayne never died or he just went into hiding., so they can bring him back.

It's ok to disagree... Actually, it's great that we disagree, as healthy debate is good for everyone...

I just see Batman differently then most... I see Batman as a symbol... A symbol of loss, tragedy, determination, and hope...

Batman, like the Crow, is born from tragedy, and like the Crow, all it takes is violence and tragedy to bring about the whole process again...

You see, to me, Batman isn't Bruce Wayne... But Bruce Wayne is Batman... But ANYONE could have become Batman... Joe Chill could have become Batman if he were in the same situation... The same kind of Batman? Probably not, but like I said, Batman isn't confined to the life of one person... He is an ideal, and that's why I'm ok with several (non-camp) depictions of Batman, because there is no "true" Batman because Batman transcends all that linear stuff for me...

Ugh...

They already broke the Bat. Why kill him?

They're gonna kill him?? Damn!! Im sure he'll come back, but to bring back a dead Batman would taint the "realistic" feel of the Batman comic book world. But I guess we'll have to wait and see

Originally posted by tlbauerle
Ugh...

They already broke the Bat. Why kill him?

I agree

Seems kinda unnatural when I think of:

Clark, Diana, and Dick.


and not Clark, Diana, and Bruce

Originally posted by OB1-adobe
what the hell are these Batman R.I.P ads I have been seeing in this weeks DC comics?

It's just Morrison's stupid way to change the mythos to glorify his overrated stories.

See Batman and son.

Originally posted by tlbauerle
Ugh...

They already broke the Bat. Why kill him?


QFT

Originally posted by tlbauerle
Ugh...

They already broke the Bat. Why kill him?

Because there could be so much meaning behind it, such a strong theme could be present...

If Bruce Wayne dies and there is a worthy successor, it'll show that while your body may decay and die, the thoughts are forever... The ideas are forever... The symbol is forever... BATMAN is forever... It could finally show that while Bruce Wayne dies, Batman NEVER dies... He is ALWAYS watching over the city, whether it's Bruce, Rick, Tim, Terry, or anyone else...

While I think they should wait a little bit longer (70 year anniversary in Detective Comics May issue), I think having the mantle of the Bat passed down is the next logical step in the Bat mythos... Let's face it, they have done so much with the Bruce Wayne character that I think they could be running out of good ideas soon... It'd be a way of introducing the character to a new spin... An update... They did it to Green Lantern, Flash, and etc., why is Batman such a touchy subject?

I could easily go on and on about how much this could HELP the Batman series, but whatever...

Honestly, sometimes I don't understand the comic book community...

Originally posted by Bat Dude
Because there could be so much meaning behind it, such a strong theme could be present...

If Bruce Wayne dies and there is a worthy successor, it'll show that while your body may decay and die, the thoughts are forever... The ideas are forever... The symbol is forever... BATMAN is forever... It could finally show that while Bruce Wayne dies, Batman NEVER dies... He is ALWAYS watching over the city, whether it's Bruce, Rick, Tim, Terry, or anyone else...

While I think they should wait a little bit longer (70 year anniversary in Detective Comics May issue), I think having the mantle of the Bat passed down is the next logical step in the Bat mythos... Let's face it, they have done so much with the Bruce Wayne character that I think they could be running out of good ideas soon... It'd be a way of introducing the character to a new spin... An update... They did it to Green Lantern, Flash, and etc., why is Batman such a touchy subject?

I could easily go on and on about how much this could HELP the Batman series, but whatever...

Honestly, sometimes I don't understand the comic book community...

Sorry, but Bats ain't like the rest... I usually have an open mind, but it damn closed when it comes to this subject..

Long live Bruce Wayne..... (well on paper anyway lol )

Originally posted by sindahouse
Sorry, but Bats ain't like the rest... I usually have an open mind, but it damn closed when it comes to this subject..

Long live Bruce Wayne..... (well on paper anyway lol )

I think Batman is just like Green Lantern and Flash... Green Lantern is not one person, but a legacy... The Flash is not one person, but a legacy... That is what Batman should be, a legacy of sorts... The ideas of the Flash and Green Lantern are not the biography of one man, and neither should Batman... If there is someone worthy of the title, I don't care if his name is Bruce Wayne or not, as long as he embodies what the character truly means, and that is the pain of loss, and how we ease this pain... Bruce Wayne does that, but like I said, an update could go far in actually helping the character... So many new ideas could be brought into scope... Things that could never have happened in a Batman comic could now happen... But as I've said time and time again, Batman is NOT confined to the life of one character... At least, in my eyes...

And it's not like all his past stories/adventures are null and voided by this change... Everything that happened to that point still happened... Nothing is stopping you reading the old stories...

Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
QFT

Color me ignorant...what does that mean?

Quoted For Truth.

Sweet.

How'd I miss that?

Took me awhile too.

Do you say "Powned" or "Pawned" for PWNED?

Over at theforce.net they have MTFBWY (may the force be with you) and GFFA (galaxy far, far away).

Originally posted by sindahouse
Sorry, but Bats ain't like the rest... I usually have an open mind, but it damn closed when it comes to this subject..

Long live Bruce Wayne..... (well on paper anyway lol )

I agree bats isn't like the rest theyv killed most of our heros at one point except bats, why not just keep it that way, its ironic seen as bats is the only one without actual powers, if bats died a little part of me would die i must say lol because we can relate to batman more than most heros

Originally posted by Bat Dude
I think Batman is just like Green Lantern and Flash... Green Lantern is not one person, but a legacy... The Flash is not one person, but a legacy... That is what Batman should be, a legacy of sorts... The ideas of the Flash and Green Lantern are not the biography of one man, and neither should Batman... If there is someone worthy of the title, I don't care if his name is Bruce Wayne or not, as long as he embodies what the character truly means, and that is the pain of loss, and how we ease this pain... Bruce Wayne does that, but like I said, an update could go far in actually helping the character... So many new ideas could be brought into scope... Things that could never have happened in a Batman comic could now happen... But as I've said time and time again, Batman is NOT confined to the life of one character... At least, in my eyes...

And it's not like all his past stories/adventures are null and voided by this change... Everything that happened to that point still happened... Nothing is stopping you reading the old stories...

Bullocks... All superheroes are Legacys, except bruce. Bruce is batz. Sorry, mind is still closed

Originally posted by Bat Dude
Because there could be so much meaning behind it, such a strong theme could be present...

If Bruce Wayne dies and there is a worthy successor, it'll show that while your body may decay and die, the thoughts are forever... The ideas are forever... The symbol is forever... BATMAN is forever... It could finally show that while Bruce Wayne dies, Batman NEVER dies... He is ALWAYS watching over the city, whether it's Bruce, Rick, Tim, Terry, or anyone else...

While I think they should wait a little bit longer (70 year anniversary in Detective Comics May issue), I think having the mantle of the Bat passed down is the next logical step in the Bat mythos... Let's face it, they have done so much with the Bruce Wayne character that I think they could be running out of good ideas soon... It'd be a way of introducing the character to a new spin... An update... They did it to Green Lantern, Flash, and etc., why is Batman such a touchy subject?

I could easily go on and on about how much this could HELP the Batman series, but whatever...

Honestly, sometimes I don't understand the comic book community... Me too. I think it's a bad decision. Not because it's bad idea at it's core, but because from what I've seen on the 'net, many of Batman's fans will go insane(er ) It's fvcked up, but that's how it is. I've seen the same thing w/Batman Beyond. Was a great show, but people bit<hed about not liking anyone in the suit but Bruce.

I think they should pass the mantle, but keep Bruce alive. I'd like to see Grayson get his due. It's weird for Bruce to still be running around w/the guy who used to be kid Flash. Bats get treated like this because he's part of DCs holy trinity. They all seem to never pass the torch. It's always been a "if you're not Bats/Supes/WW........FVCK YOU!" type of thing w/DC. Does WW sell more than Flash or GL? I really don't think she belongs here

As for the Azbat thing. I loved the idea of the mantle being passed, but not to some super powered weirdo who came outta nowhere w/a stupid looking suit. The only 2 worthy are Grayson & Terry M.

Batman may be all about the concept of the batman trancending the man Bruce Wayne...But even so, the fact is this: People will not roll with Bruce Wayne getting killed off, and somehow they will have to revert back to Bruce Wayne being Batman.

Originally posted by brainchild81
Me too. I think it's a bad decision. Not because it's bad idea at it's core, but because from what I've seen on the 'net, many of Batman's fans will go insane(er ) It's fvcked up, but that's how it is. I've seen the same thing w/Batman Beyond. Was a great show, but people bit<hed about not liking anyone in the suit but Bruce.

I think they should pass the mantle, but keep Bruce alive. I'd like to see Grayson get his due. It's weird for Bruce to still be running around w/the guy who used to be kid Flash. Bats get treated like this because he's part of DCs holy trinity. They all seem to never pass the torch. It's always been a "if you're not Bats/Supes/WW........FVCK YOU!" type of thing w/DC. Does WW sell more than Flash or GL? I really don't think she belongs here

As for the Azbat thing. I loved the idea of the mantle being passed, but not to some super powered weirdo who came outta nowhere w/a stupid looking suit. The only 2 worthy are Grayson & Terry M.

Yeah, I agree...

He doesn't have to die, but passing down the torch is what he should do... If done right, I see no reason why the comic can't benefit from it...

Is batman beyond noncannon?

Not IIRC. It's futuristic & could easily be made canon though.

Originally posted by brainchild81
Not IIRC. It's futuristic & could easily be made canon though.

Isn't Batman Beyond one of the 52 universes?

Not sure. You may be right

Originally posted by Bat Dude
Isn't Batman Beyond one of the 52 universes?

yup...

batman is more than some guy in a batsuit.

YOu get rid of Bruce you take batman's soul.

I liked batman beyond and all, but out of all of the dcau its the one I liked the least. Its only cool because its a flash forward of batman's world.

Who really cares about the adventures of terry mcguinnes as opposed to the adventures of Bruce wayne?

On a second note, that show Bruce was basically still batman. He was the brains and that in a nutshell is what makes batman fascinating.

bruce wayne is the essence of batman. taking away bruce and saying the next batman would be just the same is preposterous. it's like a tootsie pop... you take away the tootsie center and still have the gall to call it a tootsie pop. now, batman beyond wasn't so bad because it was a torch-passing of some sort and we do see bruce struggle as batman.

what makes batman work is bruce. no guns necessary... extensive martial arts training, killer bank roll, perfect alter-ego... while bats is out at night, bruce will be sleeping during the day. he's a billionare, no need for a day job. just a few appearances at fund raisers here and there...

with that being said...

http://www.newsarama.com/WWLA/08/DC/countdown.html

there is a mention of batman RIP in the article... and the possibility of batman becoming a new god. how exciting is that...

Originally posted by super pr*xy
bruce wayne is the essence of batman. taking away bruce and saying the next batman would be just the same is preposterous. it's like a tootsie pop... you take away the tootsie center and still have the gall to call it a tootsie pop. now, batman beyond wasn't so bad because it was a torch-passing of some sort and we do see bruce struggle as batman.

what makes batman work is bruce. no guns necessary... extensive martial arts training, killer bank roll, perfect alter-ego... while bats is out at night, bruce will be sleeping during the day. he's a billionare, no need for a day job. just a few appearances at fund raisers here and there...

with that being said...

http://www.newsarama.com/WWLA/08/DC/countdown.html

there is a mention of batman RIP in the article... and the possibility of batman becoming a new god. how exciting is that...


I read the article, very fascinating.

Originally posted by super pr*xy
bruce wayne is the essence of batman. taking away bruce and saying the next batman would be just the same is preposterous. it's like a tootsie pop... you take away the tootsie center and still have the gall to call it a tootsie pop. now, batman beyond wasn't so bad because it was a torch-passing of some sort and we do see bruce struggle as batman.

what makes batman work is bruce. no guns necessary... extensive martial arts training, killer bank roll, perfect alter-ego... while bats is out at night, bruce will be sleeping during the day. he's a billionare, no need for a day job. just a few appearances at fund raisers here and there...

with that being said...

http://www.newsarama.com/WWLA/08/DC/countdown.html

there is a mention of batman RIP in the article... and the possibility of batman becoming a new god. how exciting is that...

First off, no one is saying it'd be exactly the same...

And if you don't mind, I'd like to ask you this...

What makes Batman so much different from the Flash? Or Green Lantern? Or any other hero for that matter?

The Flash, another of DC's legendary characters, seems to have someone new in the costume every 20 years...

All I'm saying is a new Batman isn't "The Death of the Batman Line"... There are plenty of worthy characters to take up the mantle of the Bat in the event Bruce is no longer able to...

And like I said, the old stories will still be there... It's not like Bruce Wayne would have never existed...

I'm just trying to prove that Batman is no different from Flash... Batman is not written in stone, and any deviation from what was originally written is not a sin, as much as people love to think the opposite... Batman is a concept, and a concept that needs updating every once and a while, whether that's something little like a yellow oval on the suit, or something huge like someone new behind the cowl...

Again, I'd prefer they wait a little while longer...

But then again, I AM the guy that praises Burton's Batman movies, so you might not like my thoughts on it...

Originally posted by Bat Dude
First off, no one is saying it'd be exactly the same...

And if you don't mind, I'd like to ask you this...

What makes Batman so much different from the Flash? Or Green Lantern? Or any other hero for that matter?

The Flash, another of DC's legendary characters, seems to have someone new in the costume every 20 years...

All I'm saying is a new Batman isn't "The Death of the Batman Line"... There are plenty of worthy characters to take up the mantle of the Bat in the event Bruce is no longer able to...

And like I said, the old stories will still be there... It's not like Bruce Wayne would have never existed...

I'm just trying to prove that Batman is no different from Flash... Batman is not written in stone, and any deviation from what was originally written is not a sin, as much as people love to think the opposite... Batman is a concept, and a concept that needs updating every once and a while, whether that's something little like a yellow oval on the suit, or something huge like someone new behind the cowl...

Again, I'd prefer they wait a little while longer...

But then again, I AM the guy that praises Burton's Batman movies, so you might not like my thoughts on it...

well, bruce's life is what makes him effective in what he does. with that being said, BATMAN is no different to any other hero. he has already been replaced once. i acknowledge the fact that he is not the last batman, but he is the ONLY bruce wayne. this is the main point in my previous post. maybe i should've said it's what makes THIS batman work.

on a more personal note... i love batman forever.

Originally posted by OB1-adobe
batman is more than some guy in a batsuit.

YOu get rid of Bruce you take batman's soul.

I liked batman beyond and all, but out of all of the dcau its the one I liked the least.Do you consider Teen Titans or Legion of Superheroes part of the DCAU? Originally posted by OB1-adobe
Its only cool because its a flash forward of batman's world.

Who really cares about the adventures of terry mcguinnes as opposed to the adventures of Bruce wayne? I did. It was something new but it still paid homage to the old. & the new villains were way more formidable than the old onesOriginally posted by OB1-adobe
On a second note, that show Bruce was basically still batman. He was the brains and that in a nutshell is what makes batman fascinating. Nah. He was a mentor. Terry was Batman & Terry established himself on a many occasions as one who could hold his own(once even w/out the suit). Hell, in "Return of the Joker" he took down Joker his way, not Bruce's. Originally posted by super pr*xy


there is a mention of batman RIP in the article... and the possibility of batman becoming a new god. how exciting is that... About the "New God" Batman, that doesn't include powers does it? That'd suck

that does include powers. immortality and flight to name a couple. oh, and gigantism. look it up on wiki... there's a few more.

That'd be horrible

10 bucks says it'll all get retconned within the next 2 years.

Originally posted by brainchild81
He was a mentor. Terry was Batman & Terry established himself on a many occasions as one who could hold his own(once even w/out the suit). Hell, in "Return of the Joker" he took down Joker his way, not Bruce's.

Yeah... I liked Batman Beyond for what it was... The next chapter in the Bat mythos... I really liked Terry as a character, and I thought he was a worthy successor to the name Batman...

However, when Epilogue was over, I was FURIOUS! They made him Bruce's son! WTF?!? That's basically them trying to make us believe that "only those of Bruce's bloodline are worthy of being Batman"... That's not true at all... Batman isn't a hereditary title...

I liked the way they explained it though. & I liked seeing that the Phantasm was still around.

was all this in the cartoon? or did they make a comic book for that? cause i seriously don't remeber any of that in the cartoon. i have to buy the BB dvd now. you guys got me curious... and my wallet suffers when i'm curious... (insert hooker joke here.)

was reading the april 2008 "edition" (couldn't come up with the actual word) of wizard. there is an article printed about the final crisis... it's an interview of jones and morrison i think. there was a mention of this too. they said that what's in store for batman isn't as simple as death. it's something bigger. that death would be the last thing on his mind.

could i just say... bruce is f***ed. in good way, maybe? time will reveal...

As long as in the end we still have Bruce as the bat it's all good

Originally posted by super pr*xy
was all this in the cartoon? or did they make a comic book for that? cause i seriously don't remeber any of that in the cartoon. i have to buy the BB dvd now. you guys got me curious... and my wallet suffers when i'm curious... (insert hooker joke here.) 1st you should see Return of the Joker movie & then you should see the "epilogue" episode of JLU

which season?

i always think of
Clark, Bruce and Diana when think of comics
batman is bruce
clark is superman
diana is wonderwomen
flash will change so will gl but bats supes ad WW are concetent they cant chage tey wont

Originally posted by Dgw2007
i always think of
Clark, Bruce and Diana when think of comics
batman is bruce
clark is superman
diana is wonderwomen
flash will change so will gl but bats supes ad WW are concetent they cant chage tey wont

You see, that's something I don't think I'd ever understand...

Batman could pass the torch if need be...

Wonder Woman, too, could pass the torch to a new Amazon if need be...

Superman is the only one that would be too difficult to replace... He's the LAST of his kind, remember, so the only way it would work is to clone him (done already), or have an android replace him (done already)...

Passing the torch would be great if the majority of the Batfans could handle itOriginally posted by super pr*xy
which season? It was either the last season or the one right b4 it.

Originally posted by Bat Dude
You see, that's something I don't think I'd ever understand...

Batman could pass the torch if need be...

Wonder Woman, too, could pass the torch to a new Amazon if need be...

Superman is the only one that would be too difficult to replace... He's the LAST of his kind, remember, so the only way it would work is to clone him (done already), or have an android replace him (done already)...
yes that is true but i would never want to replace them
batman could be replaced by todd, dick, or tim
WW could be replaced by cassie or donna
Superman is more difficult i would hope conner could be brought back
but i would hope not

batman and wonder woman can be replaced. we've seen it. superman however... that's s different story. i don't think anybody can take his mantle. he' one and only.

Now that I think about it, I am actually quite surprised they do not pass the mantle every 20 years or so considering Batman is a human being and not an alien like Superman.

But w/ev the case, I cannot see anyone else taking Batman's place. However, I am not saying it is not pull-offable (See Capt. America).

plus with 52 universes, DC can retcon anytime they wanted to.

Originally posted by Dgw2007
yes that is true but i would never want to replace them
batman could be replaced by todd, dick, or tim
WW could be replaced by cassie or donna
Superman is more difficult i would hope conner could be brought back
but i would hope not i agree

Originally posted by super pr*xy
batman and wonder woman can be replaced. we've seen it. superman however... that's s different story. i don't think anybody can take his mantle. he' one and only.


But the books failed and DC had to fix things.

DC had to fix a lot of things. the death of superman, for one. that was probably the biggest gimick that angered the fans.

and does anybody else think that the multiverse was brought back for DCs convenience? it is an easy way out...

Originally posted by super pr*xy
DC had to fix a lot of things. the death of superman, for one. that was probably the biggest gimick that angered the fans.

and does anybody else think that the multiverse was brought back for DCs convenience? it is an easy way out...


Which is what will happen once DC decides and kills Bruce Wayne. After several months of trying to establish Dick Grayson as the Batman, DC will retcon it and Bruce will be back.

They cant kill Batman

Originally posted by King Of KOOL!
They cant kill Batman


QFT

maybe bruce doesn't die.


It just occured to me as a possiblility, but............



what do you think guys?



Bruce decides Not to be Batman anymore?

They definitely won't kill him. Batfanboys would fvcking riot. If they did they'd have him show up to save the day w/a full beard. Conveniently, the one that got killed was an impostor. Then they plug in lil' cutscenes of "Bruce" returning after a his last battle a year ago w/Ra's or something. Everybody starts remembering how weird he's been acting right afterwards.

Supes: Hey. How'd your fight w/Ra's go?
Bats: None of your fvcking business, bit<h!
*Supes thinks 'Bruce's even more of a meanie than usual. What's wrong w/him?'*

A few months later he's sparring w/Nightwing & getting his @ss whooped.
Nightwing: Man, you really are off today. I've never seen you like this. Something wrong?
Bruce: Yeah. Tired from fvcking ya mom last night, DICK! How's that?
NW:Bruce, that hurts.
Bruce: That's what SHE said!
NW: Not cool, Bruce. You of all people should have respect for the dead. *Walks out of room thinking 'Bruce's even more of an @sshole than usual. What's wrong w/him?'*

Another day
*Bruce spots Hawkman & GL Hal flying & flags them down.*
B:Hawkman, just wanted to tell you there's nothing good about what you do or who you are. You give new meaning to the term dead weight. The entire team hates you. You should try to be more like Hal. Hal's the coolest muthafvcka on the team. He sets the standard for all of us.
*Bats leaves & they fly away.
HM: Man, he's more of a prick than usual today.
GL: Nah. I thought he was nice today. I think me & him are gonna be good friends from now on.
HM: Shut up!
GL: No, you shut up!



The team feels silly for not being able to tell it wasn't really Bruce. They all tell him how glad they are that he's back & it's back to usual. The last page has Dick taking off the Batsuit & giving it to Bruce
D:This belongs to you

The fanboys stop rioting & go back to their normal lives

Originally posted by OB1-adobe
maybe bruce doesn't die.


It just occured to me as a possiblility, but............



what do you think guys?



Bruce decides Not to be Batman anymore?

That would actually be a pretty kool concept... *imagines what it would be like*

It would have to be planned months in advance... It would have to be gradual...

Something VERY tragic would have to happen to the guy who would become the new Batman (preferably Grayson) It would leave him cold and bitter inside...

Meanwhile, Bruce would be slowing down... Something would be making him slower, weaker, less able... He would look in the mirror one day, and realize he can't handle it anymore... He sees the face of his father and mother, and they tell him that he has been thinking about Gotham all his life, and that now he must start thinking about himself... He tells everyone that he'll be retiring...

Bruce: I've done all I can. I can't be doing this forever. They've been trying to tell me this for a long time. I'm only human. My crusades are killing me. As much as I hate to say it, I can't be doing this forever. It's time for someone else to handle the burden.

*panel of Bruce leaving the cave, with Richard Grayson, alone, in the dark, cold cave that is now his home* (Think how Kay left Michael in his father's study in Godfather Part I)

Not exactly "picture perfect transition", but I haven't thought up the specifics of the story...

Just an idea...

A great one too. But it won't work 'cuz they can't handle it

Is that not similar to the concept of 'The Dark Knight Returns'?

But yeah. You cannot kill Batman.

Originally posted by Neo_Version 7
Is that not similar to the concept of 'The Dark Knight Returns'?

But yeah. You cannot kill Batman.

I assume you mean you cannot kill Bruce Wayne?

Cuz Batman goes far beyond just Bruce Wayne...

Originally posted by Bat Dude
I assume you mean you cannot kill Bruce Wayne?

Cuz Batman goes far beyond just Bruce Wayne...

Yes, my mistake.

The more I read about this event, the more I just want them to kill Bruce Wayne already. I do not think the Batman series has ever had a Holocaust-like event happen to it. You know? Something like the story of Superman dying and ruining the series in the process. When Bruce dies and they retcon it, we can finally get it out of the way.

After that, it will be nothing but smooooooth sailing. Somebody shoot Frank Miller already though.

batman has basically been against all of the villains and held his own, who could kill him?

that aside I think him dying while sad, it would be a good idea it would give the comic book universe a more realastic feel...especially since he's been the same age for 50 years or something