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No prep

No weapons or gadgets. And no super attacks

Fight takes place in a open field.

No K.Os, must fight to the finish.

dose Ryu & ken go evil so that they can be at max


ps y not akuma


lol

Team 1.

Originally posted by shinrob
dose Ryu & ken go evil so that they can be at max


ps y not akuma


lol
No evil Ryu or Ken and no super attacks. This is a h2h fight to see which of the two teams are more skillful in martial arts, no unfair advantages.

well Captain America is a master of every hand to hand combat known to man. And Batman is trained in 127 different martial arts, they would destroy Ken and Ryu

Originally posted by suprmanvsbatman
well Captain America is a master of every hand to hand combat known to man. And Batman is trained in 127 different martial arts, they would destroy Ken and Ryu No he is adept at every known martial arts not a master. Team one wins this.

................the massive difference in power is apparently not being pointed out. Not to mention that Ken&Ryu are comparable in skill.

Team 2 easily.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
................the massive difference in power is apparently not being pointed out. Not to mention that Ken&Ryu are comparable in skill.

Team 2 easily.
Agree

It isn't known as 'Assasin Fist' for nothing....

I agree that Ryu/Ken are vary skilled fighters,two of the vary best Street Fighter has to offer.

Both Ryu and Ken are practitioners of an extremely violent martial art
which does not include the discipline's life-threatening
techniques such as the Shun Goku Satsu

Ryu focused on technique while
Ken opted for stylish unpredictability

but Ryu focuses more on the Hadou principle of Goutetsu-style Ansatsuken,
which translates to him being very skilled with his usage of ki

ryu=ki
ken=MA
akuma=power

shotokan karate is go to do much to batman and capt they know over
100 fighting style

batman yinyang usaflag

SHORYUKEN!

.........ryu alone would simply stomp them all over the places.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
.........ryu alone would simply stomp them all over the places.
I disagree, Ryu by him self is not half as dangerous as most of the foes that Cap/Batman take on. This fight won't be any where near that easy for Ryu or Ken.

Originally posted by thadarknite84
I disagree, Ryu by him self is not half as dangerous as most of the foes that Cap/Batman take on. This fight won't be any where near that easy for Ryu or Ken.
are you out of your mind?

In h2h they get killed. RYU has blown up an entire ISLAND.

He can amp his stats the levels batman and capt simply can not fight. He also as skilled if not more skileld. He can do energy attacks that would kill either in a hit. Or simply land a powerful kick or punch and there done for.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
Or simply land a powerful kick or punch and there done for. You better be talking about Batman.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
You better be talking about Batman.

mostly yes, but ryu and Ken both of punches that can be amp to amazing levels that would take Capt out.


Ken and RYU are on an entierly different level.


a weaken charlie destroy haft a cliff with a single downward kick. RYU and KEN are far more powerful then charlie was.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
mostly yes, but ryu and Ken both of punches that can be amp to amazing levels that would take Capt out.


Ken and RYU are on an entierly different level.


a weaken charlie destroy haft a cliff with a single downward kick. RYU and KEN are far more powerful then charlie was. No, I mean that you better be talking about Batman landing a powerful kick or punch, and taking out the Street Fighters.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
No, I mean that you better be talking about Batman landing a powerful kick or punch, and taking out the Street Fighters.

Not even closes lol.


I know were your going with this bran lol.

BAT KICK FTW

Originally posted by Battlehammer
Not even closes lol.


I know were your going with this bran lol.

BAT KICK FTW Or bat-punch, bat-point... all work. srug

lol

Originally posted by Battlehammer
are you out of your mind?

In h2h they get killed. RYU has blown up an entire ISLAND.

He can amp his stats the levels batman and capt simply can not fight. He also as skilled if not more skileld. He can do energy attacks that would kill either in a hit. Or simply land a powerful kick or punch and there done for.

wasnt it gouki that blew up an island?

btw, this isn't evil ryu, so he is nowhere as powerful as you describe him.

Their fireballs would be useless as Cap has his shield.

not sure which side would win though.

Originally posted by Master-Borg
wasnt it gouki that blew up an island?

btw, this isn't evil ryu, so he is nowhere as powerful as you describe him.
No I think it was RYU.

Also no evil ryu is not more powerful. Also good ryu can lasp into his super form if he was losing which he would ne be.

Originally posted by Master-Borg
Their fireballs would be useless as Cap has his shield.

not sure which side would win though.

batman does not have a shield though.


also RYU wins by him self..........RYU is physially vastly there superiors not to mention is easily just as skilled.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
No I think it was RYU.

Also no evil ryu is not more powerful. Also good ryu can lasp into his super form if he was losing which he would ne be.



batman does not have a shield though.


also RYU wins by him self..........RYU is physially vastly there superiors not to mention is easily just as skilled.

1. I'm pretty sure it was gouki (aka Akuma) who destroys an island.

2. Evil Ryu IS more powerful...since it's Ryu tapping into his inner demon power.

3. Batman can dodge fireballs...they're not that fast for someone who can dodge gunfire.

4. You're overestimating Ryu and Ken and underestimating Batman and Captain America.

Originally posted by Master-Borg

4. You're overestimating Ryu and Ken and underestimating Batman and Captain America.

Am I? Charlie destroy a cliff with a single attack.........He no were enar RYU or KEN level.


Then ryu can let into his inner demons when ever he wants, not that he need it.

Have you ever read a street fighter comic?

Akuma destroyed the island

Originally posted by Battlehammer

Have you ever read a street fighter comic? no, but I have played many SF games and watched some of the anime movies

Originally posted by Master-Borg
no, but I have played many SF games and watched some of the anime movies
games are worthless.


anime movies don't do them justices.


There power out put is rediculous nothing capt or batman could handle h2h.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
games are worthless.


anime movies don't do them justices.


There power out put is rediculous nothing capt or batman could handle h2h.

LOL...the games are worthless??!!! ummm...hate to break it to you, but they are VIDEO GAME characters first and foremost...so everything about them is based on their video game portrayals.

And their power output is impressive, yes, but you're talking about two guys (Cap and Bats) who have faced metabeings far more powerful than Ken and Ryu.

offtopic question: do you think Ryu can beat Wolverine?

I understand what you are saying Battlehammer, but if you read the rules of this battle. Ryu/Ken's super attacks are not permitted, neither Batman's gadgets or Cap's shield. And no prep time.

Originally posted by Master-Borg
LOL...the games are worthless??!!! ummm...hate to break it to you, but they are VIDEO GAME characters first and foremost...so everything about them is based on their video game portrayals.
yes worthless. It a dam game the only thing that would give you knowledge of the characters would be story talked about them. Which in street fighers gives you little knowledge of there abilities.


Originally posted by Master-Borg
And their power output is impressive, yes, but you're talking about two guys (Cap and Bats) who have faced metabeings far more powerful than Ken and Ryu.
yes with help or simple dumb luck.

They never faced individuals who are far more powerful then they are and just as skilled if not more so and come out on top.

Originally posted by Master-Borg
offtopic question: do you think Ryu can beat Wolverine?


Not that it matters, but RYU would win every time. Logan would last longer then either batman or capt though.

Originally posted by thadarknite84
I understand what you are saying, but if you read the rules of this battle. Ryu/Ken's super attacks are not permitted, neither Batman's gadgets or Cap's shield. And no prep time.
they don't need super attacks they can amp there physical attributes to level way beyond batman or capt or simply put energy into every one of there attacks which would not be super moves.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
they don't need super attacks they can amp there physical attributes to level way beyond batman or capt or simply put energy into every one of there attacks which would not be super moves. so what? Batman can do one-hit kills as well.

also, ryu and ken are just humans, prob peak.

Bats is peak human and Cap is even more than peak, he won't get tired at all while Ryu and Ken will.

Even IF they were all peak humans, it is not as if peak human means the same thing in all works of fiction.

Originally posted by Master-Borg
so what? Batman can do one-hit kills as well.

also, ryu and ken are just humans, prob peak.

Bats is peak human and Cap is even more than peak, he won't get tired at all while Ryu and Ken will.
...........peak humans............are you kidding me.

One hitt kill mvoes are nices..........to bad ken or ryu could compeltely destroy capt or batman body with a single hit.......... no matter were aimed lol.


Ya peak humans can destroy a cliff with a single kick.........


you really don't have a lot of knowledge on street fighter do you? Theses guys are far from "peak-human" Theses guys destroy whole section of cities when they battle. Hellc harlie sent guile like through four buildings from a single kick.

Here's a little example of what Ryu/Ken are up against.
http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/9567/captainamerica110nolongmb7.jpg
http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/7245/captainamerica110nolonghw3.jpg
http://x4.putfile.com/1/2516555284.jpg

Originally posted by Battlehammer

you really don't have a lot of knowledge on street fighter do you? Theses guys are far from "peak-human" Theses guys destroy whole section of cities when they battle. Hellc harlie sent guile like through four buildings from a single kick.

technically, the video games are the true canon source for street fighter. comics and movies are not.

Originally posted by thadarknite84
Here's a little example of what Ryu/Ken are up against.
http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/9567/captainamerica110nolongmb7.jpg
http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/7245/captainamerica110nolonghw3.jpg
http://x4.putfile.com/1/2516555284.jpg

but don't you know...Charlie can destroy a cliff!!! A CLIFF!!!

Originally posted by thadarknite84
Here's a little example of what Ryu/Ken are up against.
http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/9567/captainamerica110nolongmb7.jpg
http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/7245/captainamerica110nolonghw3.jpg
http://x4.putfile.com/1/2516555284.jpg

All they really did was not get killed.

Originally posted by Mindset
All they really did was not get killed. really, because it looks like Batman is kicking Grundy's ass.

Originally posted by Master-Borg
really, because it looks like Batman is kicking Grundy's ass.

Did you even read the text in the scan?

I assume you didn't.

Originally posted by Mindset
All they really did was not get killed.
cosgined lol.


There also facing opponets in this battle who are easily as skilled but vastly superior physically.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
cosgined lol.


There also facing opponets in this battle who are easily as skilled but vastly superior physically.
So are you saying that Ryu/Ken can battle two beings that are round class 100 or even stronger? One of the two battles with The Man of Steel from time to time. And the other could grow to become even stronger than Superman. I don't know about that one.

Originally posted by thadarknite84
So are you saying that Ryu/Ken can battle two beings that are round class 100 or even stronger? One of the two battles with the Man Of Steel" from time to time. And the other could grow to become even stronger than Superman. I don't know about that one.

Cap kicked Hulk in the face and got away. In an actual fight w/o pis he would be ripped apart.

Batman was hitting Grundys pressure points, Grundy was not even fighting back because whoever was mindcontrolling him ( I think it was Grodd ) released their hold on him and just let him get his ass kicked.

You seriously think Batman could ever hurt Supes in a fair fight, the times I remember them fighting Batman and K-nite, had even then Supes could beat him.

Originally posted by Mindset
Cap kicked Hulk in the face and got away. In an actual fight w/o pis he would be ripped apart.

Batman was hitting Grundys pressure points, Grundy was not even fighting back because whoever was mindcontrolling him ( I think it was Grodd ) released their hold on him and just let him get his ass kicked.

You seriously think Batman could ever hurt Supes in a fair fight, the times I remember them fighting Batman and K-nite, had even then Supes could beat him.
True, but what I'm saying is that you can't underestimate Cap/Batman. With no problem, they would put down a lot of the fighters in SF.

not really. any top tier SF would defeat both at onces.

actually Charlie is one of the hightiers of the series. in case you don't know, while ryu got spanked silly by Bison in SFAlpha3 storyline, Charlie held engaged him in combat long enough for the pyschodrives to be blown up..........and taking both Bison and Charlie with it.

another thing i want to point out is that Charlie was superior to Guile, as Guile admitted himself (Charlie being the one who taught Guile to begin with) and Guile is the most likely winner of SF2 tournament. ryu and ken are the later likely candidates.

as far as "levels" are concerned, the sonic boom is by far the strongest projectile in the SF world. far stronger and faster than hadouken and gou-hadouken.

oh and battlehammer, a little correction: AKUMA blew up that island and it was in SFA2. it wasn't Ryu. AND lastly, evil ryu is far superior to normal ryu. to the point that SF3 Ryu is about as strong as Evil Ryu back in SF1.

~Sado

Originally posted by Battlehammer
not really. any top tier SF would defeat both at onces.
Like who? because I don't see it that way. Ryu/Ken are humans too, Batman/Cap and hurt them bad, if they got in a really powerful hit. You talk about Ryu/Ken using their chi to increase their power, I consider that an super attack. Your thinking about the game only when I said no super attacks. I meant any attack that is amplified to super levels. I could have just given Batman some of his explosive weapons if that's the case.

Originally posted by Mindset
Cap kicked Hulk in the face and got away. In an actual fight w/o pis he would be ripped apart.

Batman was hitting Grundys pressure points, Grundy was not even fighting back because whoever was mindcontrolling him ( I think it was Grodd ) released their hold on him and just let him get his ass kicked.

You seriously think Batman could ever hurt Supes in a fair fight, the times I remember them fighting Batman and K-nite, had even then Supes could beat him. In Fallen Son Cap knocked out Hulk.

Grundy was free of the mind control in that scan, that's why Batman was noting how his speach had changed up at the top of the page. Grundy was himself through the course of catching all those blows in that scan. He wasn't being held inactive due to mind control.

And no, Batman can't realistically beat Superman.

akuma made and blew up an island


ryu & ken can kill batman and capt just watch

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSvhIUY5DTs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBIDLDJUfd8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpzCQ-qpaJA&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzee2zsaKzU&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXxxqbAeWIQ&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hj7l2rOQ-MM&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvA1JZnggmA&feature=related

No super moves means no fricken super moves Batman and Cap takes Ken and Ryu out. Physically i don't see how Ryu and Ken are so superior to Cap and Batman please somebody show proof.

How is amping ones abilityes a super move?

Originally posted by Battlehammer
How is amping ones abilityes a super move? I can't find anything like that not in the movies at least. They have been portrayed as strong but not even close to what you guys are claiming.

Read the comics the guys are beasts.

Originally posted by shinrob
akuma made and blew up an island


ryu & ken can kill batman and capt just watch

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSvhIUY5DTs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBIDLDJUfd8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpzCQ-qpaJA&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzee2zsaKzU&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXxxqbAeWIQ&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hj7l2rOQ-MM&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvA1JZnggmA&feature=related
The Hulk and Grundy could have kill Batman and Cap too. But as you can see both Cap and Batman lived to fight another day. And for the record, Batman and Cap could kill Ryu/Ken too. When I come to think about now, Ryu and Ken's super moves were increased to never before seen levels for the first time in the video game Street Fighter Vs. X-men..... I wonder why

RYU AND KEN 10/10

Originally posted by Battlehammer
Read the comics the guys are beasts.

Capt...

My friend, a comment like that is admissible if we are talking about someone considered 'common place,' like Spiderman or Captain America.

But with characters that very few people know thoroughly, it's a bit of a dick move to say "Go read their comics."

At least tell us why you find them so 'beast'ly.

I can't speak for everyone, but I only know Ken and Ryu from the games, and I really don't feel like reading an entire run of comics just because a poster on a versus forum tells me to.

*shrug*

I'd just appreciate a little elaboration, is all.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
How is amping ones abilityes a super move?
What are you talking about? Any move in SF that can be charged, amped or whatever you want to call it, is consider a super attack. I could just change the rules of the fights just for you and give Batman all his gadgets and give the shield to Cap. Since you don't think that amping ones physical strength is a unfair advantage.

Originally posted by Soljer
Capt...

My friend, a comment like that is admissible if we are talking about someone considered 'common place,' like Spiderman or Captain America.

But with characters that very few people know thoroughly, it's a bit of a dick move to say "Go read their comics."

At least tell us why you find them so 'beast'ly.

I can't speak for everyone, but I only know Ken and Ryu from the games, and I really don't feel like reading an entire run of comics just because a poster on a versus forum tells me to.

*shrug*

I'd just appreciate a little elaboration, is all.

My bad I been trying to find scanns, since I don't have a scanner and my issues are packed away.


Here bison simply letting out some energy and engulfs a town.

This is bison from way back in the day like 10 years before ryu was born or some such.

hammer, super moves are not allowed in this thread.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
My bad I been trying to find scanns, since I don't have a scanner and my issues are packed away.


Here bison simply letting out some energy and engulfs a town.

This is bison from way back in the day like 10 years before ryu was born or some such. If Ryu or Ken does anything like that they lose confused

Originally posted by Battlehammer
My bad I been trying to find scanns, since I don't have a scanner and my issues are packed away.


Here bison simply letting out some energy and engulfs a town.

This is bison from way back in the day like 10 years before ryu was born or some such.

You don't need to post scans; at least not for me, I'd give you the benefit of the doubt and trust you.

Just clue me in on some of what make Ryu and Ken so beastly.

Originally posted by Master-Borg
hammer, super moves are not allowed in this thread.
That was not a super move lol

http://i15.tinypic.com/6x6o4zp.jpg

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/FantasticFour_v1_250_p16.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/FantasticFour_v1_250_p17.jpg
http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n266/Lopetego/capture03-7.jpg
http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n266/Lopetego/capture04-7.jpg
http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n266/Lopetego/capture05-6.jpg
http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n266/Lopetego/capture06-3.jpg

http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/4227/captainamericav303911bf0.jpg

Originally posted by Battlehammer
.........ryu alone would simply stomp them all over the places.

http://img61.imageshack.us/my.php?loc=img61&image=batcord2lx.jpg

http://img61.imageshack.us/my.php?loc=img61&image=batrunk8dj.jpg

Originally posted by Soljer
You don't need to post scans; at least not for me, I'd give you the benefit of the doubt and trust you.

Just clue me in on some of what make Ryu and Ken so beastly.

Thanks that means a lot to me.


I actaully looking through my comics in storage at the moment to find the best feats

Batman taking on a demonized Wonder Woman
1.http://img7.exs.cx/img7/8624/bat_demonww1.jpg
2.http://img7.exs.cx/img7/6051/bat_demonww2.jpg
3.http://img7.exs.cx/img7/9889/bat_demonww3.jpg

who cares thadarknite we all can raid the batman and capt respect threads.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
who cares thadarknite we all can raid the batman and capt respect threads.
Aw don't get upset because I'm posting feats of Batman and Cap that show they don't need to amplify their physical abilities to take on a difficult task.

Originally posted by Mindset
Cap kicked Hulk in the face and got away. In an actual fight w/o pis he would be ripped apart.

Batman was hitting Grundys pressure points, Grundy was not even fighting back because whoever was mindcontrolling him ( I think it was Grodd ) released their hold on him and just let him get his ass kicked.

You seriously think Batman could ever hurt Supes in a fair fight, the times I remember them fighting Batman and K-nite, had even then Supes could beat him.
You do realize that even if that's all they did. They could and would do the same to Ken and Ryu. And Ryu and Ken's durability is nowhere near Grundy or Hulk. Even though, Batman and Cap really didn't hurt them all that much. That's not saying the same thing about Ken and Ryu. Come on Batman broke Grundy's grip for gods sake. Your not taking anything away from Batman or Cap in this fight, no way.

Originally posted by Juntai
In Fallen Son Cap knocked out Hulk.

Grundy was free of the mind control in that scan, that's why Batman was noting how his speach had changed up at the top of the page. Grundy was himself through the course of catching all those blows in that scan. He wasn't being held inactive due to mind control.

And no, Batman can't realistically beat Superman.

I said Grundy wasn't under mind control, that's what gave Batman the opportunity to free himself, Grundy was confused and not fighting back.

Cap knocking out Hulk is like Spiderman knocking out Firelord

i bet batman plays SF2 on his supercomputer

on a serious note, the SFAlpha movies were confirmed by capcom to depict the characters' REAL power. that means that ryu can smack people several feat away with simple body blows........not to mention disintegrate people with a hadouken (though should be noted that he CANNOT actually perform the beam-hadouken as tiamat pointed out).

at the same time bats has smacked people away. one thing that should be mentioned is that batman did fight on relativey even terms against Karate Kid and outsmarted him. Val can perform feats that neither ryu nor ken can (without specials anyway). and bats beat him. and i don't know about you guys but i think
Karate Kid>Ryu and ken as far as being metahuman is concerned.

i don't know about Cap though. the guy can take some real abuse and has gone toe-to-toe with the best. and then we have SSS.

I say its about even but i'm giving it to Cap and Bats.
6/10

~Sado

Originally posted by thadarknite84
You do realize that even if that's all they did. They could and would do the same to Ken and Ryu. And Ryu and Ken's durability is nowhere near Grundy or Hulk. Even though, Batman and Cap really didn't hurt them all that much. That's not saying the same thing about Ken and Ryu. Come on Batman broke Grundy's grip for gods sake. Your not taking anything away from Batman or Cap in this fight, no way.

The point I was making is they didn't do much of anything.

Batman broke Grundy's grip after Grundy was suddenly released from mindcontrol and was no longer fighting back.

Originally posted by Sado22
i bet batman plays SF2 on his supercomputer

on a serious note, the SFAlpha movies were confirmed by capcom to depict the characters' REAL power. that means that ryu can smack people several feat away with simple body blows........not to mention disintegrate people with a hadouken (though should be noted that he CANNOT actually perform the beam-hadouken as tiamat pointed out).

at the same time bats has smacked people away. one thing that should be mentioned is that batman did fight on relativey even terms against Karate Kid and outsmarted him. Val can perform feats that neither ryu nor ken can (without specials anyway). and bats beat him. and i don't know about you guys but i think
Karate Kid>Ryu and ken as far as being metahuman is concerned.

i don't know about Cap though. the guy can take some real abuse and has gone toe-to-toe with the best. and then we have SSS.

I say its about even but i'm giving it to Cap and Bats.
6/10

~Sado

Batman has admitted that in terms of skill KK is about twice as good as himself.

Also, what has post crisis KK done that neither Ryu or Ken could do?

Originally posted by Sado22
i bet batman plays SF2 on his supercomputer

on a serious note, the SFAlpha movies were confirmed by capcom to depict the characters' REAL power. that means that ryu can smack people several feat away with simple body blows........not to mention disintegrate people with a hadouken (though should be noted that he CANNOT actually perform the beam-hadouken as tiamat pointed out).

at the same time bats has smacked people away. one thing that should be mentioned is that batman did fight on relativey even terms against Karate Kid and outsmarted him. Val can perform feats that neither ryu nor ken can (without specials anyway). and bats beat him. and i don't know about you guys but i think
Karate Kid>Ryu and ken as far as being metahuman is concerned.

i don't know about Cap though. the guy can take some real abuse and has gone toe-to-toe with the best. and then we have SSS.

I say its about even but i'm giving it to Cap and Bats.
6/10

~Sado

*slaps Sado* You are a disgrace to the VG versus forum.

*slaps TP back*
you're the f@g who ran away from there bidge!

If Ken and Ryu get their supers or specails or whatever you would like to call them I think it's fair we give Batman his utility belt and Captain America his shield.

Ryu and Ken have huge strength, speed, and durability advantages over Cap and Batman. Also, considering Ryu basically fights/trains constantly, he's way up there in skill too. Team 2 will win in a curbstomp.

Originally posted by The Fake Macoy
Ryu and Ken have huge strength, speed, and durability advantages over Cap and Batman. Also, considering Ryu basically fights/trains constantly, he's way up there in skill too. Team 2 will win in a curbstomp.
Batman and Cap constantly train and take on super powered villains. Hell I think Clayface is more of a difficult opponent to fight against that Ryu or Ken. I know that in SF3 Ryu/Ken defeat Gill together. But the J.L.A and the Avengers take on even greater threats than Gill, M. Bison or Akuma

But in those battle the avengers and the JLA don't win based in the physical power of Bruce and Steve.

Originally posted by Bentley
But in those battle the avengers and the JLA don't win based in the physical power of Bruce and Steve.
No, but Batman comes up with a counter attack when the team needs one . And Cap has put his life on the line plenty of times. They both contribute of a lot to their teams.

Bruce most times beats stronger opponents with prep or gadgets, this time he will be fighting someone with at the least equal knowledge in fighting, but is also stronger, faster, and more durable.

Ken/Ryu stomp them seriously.

heres a scan of Charlie cutting the cliff after he had been shot up by a helicopter a few seconds earlier.

http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/6180/sfdh0.png

Originally posted by TheBadguy
Ken/Ryu stomp them seriously.

heres a scan of Charlie cutting the cliff after he had been shot up by a helicopter a few seconds earlier.

http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/6180/sfdh0.png
First of all, that is not Ryu/Ken and that is a super power attack. There are no super power attacks allowed is this battle. That's not real PHYSICAL strength.

This is real power without the use of chi

http://img440.imageshack.us/my.php?image=avengers11302so5.jpg

http://img76.imageshack.us/my.php?loc=img76&image=bathood14tv.jpg
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That's not a superpower attack.

His hand never touch the cliff, so what do you call it?

Maybe that's because he spinned in the air and kicked the cliff.

Have you played any SF games with Charlie?

when did using chi become a super attack?

I don't even think he used chi with that attack.

That attack is like shoryuken, chi can be used with it, but it doesn't have to be, it is not a move like hadoken where it is dependent on chi.

I played all of them and when Nash does that move a flash of energy hits his opponent.

Originally posted by thadarknite84
I played all of them and when Nash does that move a flash of energy hits his opponent.

Not, it can be used with or w/o energy like I've already mentioned.

And I seriously doubt you've played every SF

Hell, you even thought his hand should be hitting anything when it is a kicking move...

Originally posted by Battlehammer
when did using chi become a super attack?
So in the SF games characters use water to do super attacks and not chi right.... What are you talking about? Look there's no fire balls, flaming uppercuts, or any super charge moves in this battle. What don't you understand about that

Originally posted by Mindset
Not, it can be used with or w/o energy like I've already mentioned.

And I seriously doubt you've played every SF

Hell, you even thought his hand should be hitting anything when it is a kicking move...
I play and beat a lot of games with no problem. And you don't think that he used chi in that attack. Nash is not that strong. The Hulk could smash a cliff and Nash is no where near that level of strength. Wake up from your dream world, SF is not ****ing with the DC or Marvel universe.

Originally posted by thadarknite84
I play and beat a lot of games with no problem. And you don't think that he used chi in that attack. Nash is not that strong. The Hulk could mash a cliff and Nash is no where near that level of strength. Wake up from your dream world, SF is not ****ing with the DC or Marvel universe.

You don't have to be Hulk level strength to break off a portion of a cliff...

No it's not DC or Marvel when have I ever said it was, but there are definitely strong people in SF, Akuma was punching down Submarines and trains at the bottom of the ocean.

It's nice that you play games, I suggest you play them again so you know more about their moves, also there are movies and comics that are included into this, not just the games.

I'm in no dream world, you are ignorant to the ability of SF characters, but you act as if you know what you're talking about when we both know that isn't true. If anything you need to get off Batman's nuts, it's apparent from your rants about him in the Cap vs. Batman thread that you are a fanboy.

It really is retarded that this thread has even made it to five pages...

Either Ryu or Ken, solo this match.

It started from the games, I don't consider the comics or the movies canon with the story of the games. But if you want to use them, why not bring up the fight in SF V where Ken had a hard time with Vega in the cage. Because if that was Batman or Cap, it would not go down the same way at all.

Originally posted by thadarknite84
So in the SF games characters use water to do super attacks and not chi right.... What are you talking about? Look there's no fire balls, flaming uppercuts, or any super charge moves in this battle. What don't you understand about that

Me not understanding? Are you such a dolt that you actaully think that there not using chi the entire time?

Every swing, every kick is powered by chi.

super attack uses chi , but chi does not mean it a super attack.

If so I guess ever move shang-chi makes is a super move sinces you know he using chi to amp his abilities.

Originally posted by thadarknite84
It started from the games, I don't consider the comics or the movies canon with the story of the games. But if you want to use them, why not bring up the fight in SF V where Ken had a hard time with Vega in the cage. Because if that was Batman or Cap, it would not go down the same way at all.

SF V is not canon. It's some weird rendition of it. And 2nd, Batman would die against Vega in a cage match without his tools. Vega is normally really fast and a top tier fighter, but he fights best in a cage.

Originally posted by thadarknite84
It started from the games, I don't consider the comics or the movies canon with the story of the games. But if you want to use them, why not bring up the fight in SF V where Ken had a hard time with Vega in the cage. Because if that was Batman or Cap, it would not go down the same way at all.


SF II V, the anime series?

Originally posted by thadarknite84
First of all, that is not Ryu/Ken and that is a super power attack. There are no super power attacks allowed is this battle. That's not real PHYSICAL strength.

This is real power without the use of chi

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Originally posted by Battlehammer
Me not understanding? Are you such a dolt that you actaully think that there not using chi the entire time?

Every swing, every kick is powered by chi.

super attack uses chi , but chi does not mean it a super attack.

If so I guess ever move shang-chi makes is a super move sinces you know he using chi to amp his abilities.
And I see that you can't read well. What I said is that they can't use SUPER CHARGED attacks. Hell even Batman and Cap use their life force in each blow. But in that scan, Nash wouldn't use the weak version of that attack against M.Bison and expect to do any real damage to him. Originally posted by Mindset
You don't have to be Hulk level strength to break off a portion of a cliff...

No it's not DC or Marvel when have I ever said it was, but there are definitely strong people in SF, Akuma was punching down Submarines and trains at the bottom of the ocean.

It's nice that you play games, I suggest you play them again so you know more about their moves, also there are movies and comics that are included into this, not just the games.

I'm in no dream world, you are ignorant to the ability of SF characters, but you act as if you know what you're talking about when we both know that isn't true. If anything you need to get off Batman's nuts, it's apparent from your rants about him in the Cap vs. Batman thread that you are a fanboy.
I respect Batman that is very true but I'm no fanboy. I just don't see Ryu/Ken taking this battle as easy as you think they would.

I said Ryu/Ken would win easily?

what about the evil intent. if batman k.o.'s ryu, he will (to the naked eye) res as killing intent ryu, the one that beat and scared sagat. he wont hold back at all in that form, every move will be a killing one.

Originally posted by thadarknite84
And I see that you can't read well. What I said is that they can't use SUPER CHARGED attacks. Hell even Batman and Cap use their life force in each blow. But in that scan, Nash wouldn't use the weak version of that attack against M.Bison and expect to do any real damage to him.


No I can read quite fine thank you.

and you did say "super attacks", but now your trying to change it in order for your love crush batman to actually be able to win how sweet.

Originally posted by thadarknite84


No weapons or gadgets. And no super attacks



Batman and capt can't do it to a level of even shang-chi let a lone SF level.

Originally posted by Battlehammer


Every swing, every kick is powered by chi.



that's not true. Only special moves (fireball, dragon punch, sonic boom, etc) require chi.

A jump kick or a jab does not require chi.

No it does not reguire chi, but they still uses chi to amp there phyiscal stats and attacks.


so actaully im not wrong

Originally posted by Master-Borg
that's not true. Only special moves (fireball, dragon punch, sonic boom, etc) require chi.

A jump kick or a jab does not require chi.

Actually chi for them is lifeforce if I'm not mistaken. So everything they do requires chi, but they can focus it to increase their strength or infuse it into attacks, such as shoryuken.

you are correct, it does use life energy, even from the surrounding area.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
SF V is not canon. It's some weird rendition of it. And 2nd, Batman would die against Vega in a cage match without his tools. Vega is normally really fast and a top tier fighter, but he fights best in a cage.
I don't think so. Vega is not defeating batman in or out of a cage. You act like Batman can't claim a cage just as good. Batman has gone up against worse than Vega, look up Batman's Rogue gallery. And your forgetting just who the superior ninja is. And that's Batman.

Originally posted by thadarknite84
I don't think so. Vega is not defeating batman in or out of a cage. You act like Batman can't claim a cage just as good. Batman has gone up against worse than Vega, look up Batman's Rogue gallery. And your forgetting just who the superior ninja is. And that's Batman.

I think you missed the key point, and that would be that it is not canon.

I got the point, but Vega defeating Batman. I think that is nonsense.

batman's got leopard blow shifty

like i told Battlehammer a while earlier, bats and cap can take hits from wonderwoman, hulk, croc, grundy etc and have faced several metahumans in their lives. to make it worse they have gone toe-to-toe with enhanced beings like logan and spiderman for example. in H2H Cap pretty much had the upperhand against Spidey in Civil War until spidey started using his new tentacles. on then there was the time when Cap was evading deadpool's attacks without even looking at him. they guys have some real skill.
amping up chi levels? sure, ryu and ken can do that. aint nobody here (except TP) who thinks either side is in for an easy win. but it should be pointed out that even with amped chi the greatest feat ryu has of strength is punching a guy several feet away (he had powered his fists with dark hadou in SFA anime). that level of power is not new for Cap or Bats. heck i bet Cap can smack people a few feat away himself considering he can bunch around 500kgs.

like i said, this is a hell of a fight. i'm only giving it to Caps and Bats based on their versatility, experience and damage soak. oh and the greatest adv they have is that ryu and ken can't do projectiles.

Bats and Cap win 6/10
*slaps TP for no reason*

~Sado

Originally posted by Sado22
batman's got leopard blow shifty

like i told Battlehammer a while earlier, bats and cap can take hits from wonderwoman, hulk, croc, grundy etc and have faced several metahumans in their lives. to make it worse they have gone toe-to-toe with enhanced beings like logan and spiderman for example. in H2H Cap pretty much had the upperhand against Spidey in Civil War until spidey started using his new tentacles. on then there was the time when Cap was evading deadpool's attacks without even looking at him. they guys have some real skill.
amping up chi levels? sure, ryu and ken can do that. aint nobody here (except TP) who thinks either side is in for an easy win. but it should be pointed out that even with amped chi the greatest feat ryu has of strength is punching a guy several feet away (he had powered his fists with dark hadou in SFA anime). that level of power is not new for Cap or Bats. heck i bet Cap can smack people a few feat away himself considering he can bunch around 500kgs.

like i said, this is a hell of a fight. i'm only giving it to Caps and Bats based on their versatility, experience and damage soak. oh and the greatest adv they have is that ryu and ken can't do projectiles.

Bats and Cap win 6/10
*slaps TP for no reason*

~Sado

Are you referring to the super strong Cyborg from SFA the movie? If so, Ryu never gave him an uppercut, that was Ken with his chi infused shoryuken. Ryu killed it with a dark hadouken one time and with a regular one the second.

And neither side has projectiles.

nope. i'm talking about the time when Ryu fought some masked goons twoards the end of the movie. he wtfpwned them with his barehands but his strongest punch only sent the guy hurling a few feet back.

~Sado

Originally posted by Sado22
nope. i'm talking about the time when Ryu fought some masked goons twoards the end of the movie. he wtfpwned them with his barehands but his strongest punch only sent the guy hurling a few feet back.

~Sado

Are you talking about SF Alpha the movie?

Because he did not use his strongest punch on any of the normal guys and he definitely didn't use the dark hadou against them

Listen dumbshit, do I have to dig out Darkstorm Zero's post proving that Gouki is a mid range CL 100? Or Bison destroying a city? Or Ryu doing squats with giant boulders that probably weigh at least a ton?


The match is unintentional spite. And you Sado, are one of the reasons I left VG versus.

Decided to do it anyways.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=466251&pagenumber=3

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
I did the figures based on what it would take to sink an island... For it to sink the way it did, it would take at the very least 112 Megatonnes PSI for Akuma to sink Gokentou all the way to the ocean floor while simultaneously causing volcanic and earthquake activety.

I don't know much about Lobo, but if he fought Supes to an even match, that combined with Superman's punching power twells me that Lobo would survive far worse than even high level Megatonne punches... Supes knocked Lobo into Earth Orbit with an uppercut... and was completely unharmed.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Because the sea of Japan isn't that deep, and for Gokentou's highest peak to sink beneath the waves would take just about that much...

Anyways, there's 3 distinct possabilities,

#1: Akuma pulverised the island itself so badly that it flattened itself against the sea bed = roughly 80 to 120 megatonnes.

#2: the blow actually shiffted the sea floor surface and the island sank into a fissure in the bedrock = 100 to 140 megatonnes.

#3: The blow actually casued a massive shift in the tectonic plates causing a volcanic disruption, the island sinks into a magma flow = 150 to 240 megatonnes.

I am inclined to side with #3, as evidenced by the quaking and volcanic ativety that was present, not to mention that japans entire east coast is a huge volcanic faultline. However, I would stress that it would be the low end number (no more than 175 megatonnes).

The scans in question. http://www.vgmuseum.com/end/snes/d/sfa2.htm

And we know this ending happened, it's referenced in Street Fighter Alpha 2&3 and SF 3.

ryu in sf3 got beyond the need for the dark hado and now is master level.(hence shin shoyuken = true/death dragon fist)

and oro is currently training ryu....anyone that knows anything about sf knows how strong he will be after.

ryu soloes

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Decided to do it anyways.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=466251&pagenumber=3





The scans in question. http://www.vgmuseum.com/end/snes/d/sfa2.htm

And we know this ending happened, it's referenced in Street Fighter Alpha 2&3 and SF 3. yeah (max super gauge) d,d,d + fierce punch

Originally posted by psycho gundam
ryu in sf3 got beyond the need for the dark hado and now is master level.(hence shin shoyuken = true/death dragon fist)

and oro is currently training ryu....anyone that knows anything about sf knows how strong he will be after.

ryu soloes

Isn't it supposed to show how strong Ryu has gotten in SF IV?

Originally posted by Mindset
Isn't it supposed to show how strong Ryu has gotten in SF IV? SF IV looks like a 3D remake of SF2 rather than a real successor to SF3

4 is a backtrack to right after 2.

the title"IV" is only a method game publishers use to inform people it's new.

for example, x-box 360 instead of x-box 2, consumers see the 3 in three sixty and presume that it on par with the playstation 3. get it?

Ah nvm I was wrong, I guess I read it wrong, it does take place between 2 and 3.

What's with the SF threads?