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The Incredible Hulk

This looks 598.7% better than Ang Lee's version. As a Hulk fan, I am exuberant they made a reboot and not a sequel, and I am especially glad they're making it more like the comic story this time around.

The grittyness/roughness look of this Hulk is definitely a move in the right direction, Ang Lee's always looked to shiny and boyish looking for me.

it's in the comic book movie forum...

Originally posted by Robtard
The grittyness/roughness look of this Hulk is definitely a move in the right direction, Ang Lee's always looked to shiny and boyish looking for me.

Rubber doll even.

INteresting... Just wondering how Norton's gonna do it. I liked Bana actually.

I noticed the green eyes were back.

Ang Lee got one half of Hulk's story right with pinpoint accuracy, but he focused far too much on the psychological side of his story, and forgot the fact that he's also The Hulk.

Admittedly I hope it's not two hours of Hulk just smashing stuff up, cos that would be the polar opposite of Ang Lee's version. Hopefully it'll be good, though.

-AC

I liked the psychology actually. I thought he failed a little at making it seamless with Hulk being Hulk though. And I didn't like the confusing father-thing happening there.

And the editing was astounding, I doubt they will beat that.

I thought the scene where The Hulk is walking toward Betty, and morphs back to Banner, couldn't have been any more seamless.

-AC

The CGI in the trailer looks junk.

I thought Ang Lee's movie was pretty good, anyway. Also, I think Eric Bana beats Ed Norton in the casting department for a Hulk film.

As good as Edward Norton can be, Eric Bana just hits the mark as Bruce Banner. I'd also take Ang Lee as a director over the director of the Transporter anyday, even if Lee's previous entry had its faults.

I also agree about the CGI. It looks piss.

I am not much of a fan, but I will definitely see this new Hulk movie.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
I thought the scene where The Hulk is walking toward Betty, and morphs back to Banner, couldn't have been any more seamless.

-AC

I didn't mean effectswise. I meant in the sense of the very serious psychological story of Banner and Betty and stuff, and the comic book feel of the mindless Hulk destroying stuff... The two elements kinda clashed storywise a bit IMHO.

Originally posted by exanda kane
As good as Edward Norton can be, Eric Bana just hits the mark as Bruce Banner.

Agreed. Banna was coolio.

Originally posted by exanda kane
As good as Edward Norton can be, Eric Bana just hits the mark as Bruce Banner. I'd also take Ang Lee as a director over the director of the Transporter anyday, even if Lee's previous entry had its faults.

I also agree about the CGI. It looks piss.

I disagree with that, Bana is more of the "hunky" actor, while not bad as Banner, Norton, fits much better, imo.

It looks better then Lee's, I think

Norton's a tad prentious, I think.

theres a thread about this in the comic book movies thread

I hope this thread stays here in the Movie Discussion forum. I'd rather discuss this with normal movie fans, not comic book fanatics who are going to dissect everything from which side Bruce Banner parts his hair to how the skin tone of Hulk is actually a bit darker in the comic.

I think Edward Norton will blow away Eric Bana as Bruce Banner. Eric Bana looked to much like a jock frat boy and not enough like a nerdy scientist. I want to see a skinny little nerd turn into the Hulk, which is better for the whole Jekyll and Hyde vibe anyway.

Banner isn't actually a skinny little nerd.

He can fight like a shitting bastard, but I see your point, and agree with it really.

What do people think about Tony Stark allegedly appearing in this movie? Robert Downey Jr's version, I mean. Allegedly he's only got a cameo, but it's supposed to be the start of crossovers.

If they have to, let's just hope they stay the **** away from The Fantastic Four.

-AC

Originally posted by Robtard
Probably a thread about this already; couldn't find it in the movie forum though, so here it is.

The Incredible Hulk

This looks 598.7% better than Ang Lee's version. As a Hulk fan, I am exuberant they made a reboot and not a sequel, and I am especially glad they're making it more like the comic story this time around.

The grittyness/roughness look of this Hulk is definitely a move in the right direction, Ang Lee's always looked to shiny and boyish looking for me.

Actually it seems like it's a somewhat of a continuation, rather than a reboot...

according to an interview with the director, Banner transforms into the Hulk 3 min into the movie...

the reboot side of the movie, it seems, it's the direction (as well as the character's design)

I actually hated the Ang Lee version, I found unbearable, the FX sucked big time (He did looked like a pretty boy) , though the FX in this one aren't better either, it just looks more gritty.

I actually some the first movie until the puddles attacks (his father's dogs). I just couldn't watch it anymore, pop out the disk and I actually throw it away...seriously.

sometime afterwards I saw when that other guy try to inject the hulk with huge syringe and I just laugh my ass off....

Originally posted by =Tired Hiker=
I hope this thread stays here in the Movie Discussion forum. I'd rather discuss this with normal movie fans, not comic book fanatics who are going to dissect everything from which side Bruce Banner parts his hair to how the skin tone of Hulk is actually a bit darker in the comic.

Uh i resent that lol.

Originally posted by S_D_J
Actually it seems like it's a somewhat of a continuation, rather than a reboot...

according to an interview with the director, Banner transforms into the Hulk 3 min into the movie...

the reboot side of the movie, it seems, it's the direction (as well as the character's design)

I actually hated the Ang Lee version, I found unbearable, the FX sucked big time (He did looked like a pretty boy) , though the FX in this one aren't better either, it just looks more gritty.

I actually some the first movie until the puddles attacks (his father's dogs). I just couldn't watch it anymore, pop out the disk and I actually throw it away...seriously.

sometime afterwards I saw when that other guy try to inject the hulk with huge syringe and I just laugh my ass off....

Norton did the rewrite and he severed all ties with Lee's version. Marvel wanted a clean slate.

Originally posted by queeq
Norton's a tad prentious, I think.

Bruce Banner is one of the smartest men in the Marvel world, probably in the top three, next to Reed Richards and Docter Doom. I can see him being a little "iffy".

Originally posted by suprmanvsbatman
Uh i resent that lol.

I know you took that with a grain of salt, but if this were Spider-Man being discussed, I'd be right there in the Comic forums discussing it with you guys since I actually used to read Spider-Man comics. Hulk, I just don't know too much about. But man, I hope they do re-invent the Spider-Man franchise in a decade or so.

The effects are not finished according to the director, so if the effects look dodgy in the trailer they should be cleaned up for the final release.



There is a full 26 minute fight scene between Hulk and whatever that other thing is in the trailer.

Originally posted by =Tired Hiker=
I know you took that with a grain of salt, but if this were Spider-Man being discussed, I'd be right there in the Comic forums discussing it with you guys since I actually used to read Spider-Man comics. Hulk, I just don't know too much about. But man, I hope they do re-invent the Spider-Man franchise in a decade or so.

Yeah I agree i dont actually enjoy The Hulk its one of few comics i actually dont like but i do think the movie looks good and I agree with your spiderman comment.I think they could remake them a lot better in the future.

Originally posted by MildPossession
The effects are not finished according to the director, so if the effects look dodgy in the trailer they should be cleaned up for the final release.



There is a full 26 minute fight scene between Hulk and whatever that other thing is in the trailer.

That other thing is called Abomination according to my pal Brandon. I hope that fight scene will blow away the one between Rowdy Roddy Piper and Keith David in 'They Live'.

tUuTYMOAMK0

I have high hopes for this movie.

Ang Lee's version was pretty mediocre in my opinion. Not nearly as bad as everyone makes it out to be, but it left a lot to be desired and I hope this one makes up for it.

This 26 minute fight scene has already got me excited.

Originally posted by SnakeEyes

This 26 minute fight scene has already got me excited.

The thought of all the thrashing that will occur . . . . it's going to be awesome.

Originally posted by =Tired Hiker=
That other thing is called Abomination according to my pal Brandon. I hope that fight scene will blow away the one between Rowdy Roddy Piper and Keith David in 'They Live'.



Yes, it is abomination, they're not going to call it that, since it's silly. He'll be know as "Blonsky", i.e. the charactors last name.

Great fight scene that was.

I don't mind that, really.

I mean, The Hulk calls him Emil.

-AC

This is going to be shit...I can sense it...

Originally posted by Robtard
Bruce Banner is one of the smartest men in the Marvel world, probably in the top three, next to Reed Richards and Docter Doom. I can see him being a little "iffy".

I meant Norton... pretentious as an actor... and that seeps through in a little overanxious style, as if he's trying to say: look how good I am. And that makes the acting worse. At least that's how I feel... it started after Fight Club I think.

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
This is going to be shit...I can sense it...


I may have to agree with you. The trailer really didn't do much to sway my opinion one way or the other so I will decide after I see this.

Originally posted by queeq
I meant Norton... pretentious as an actor... and that seeps through in a little overanxious style, as if he's trying to say: look how good I am. And that makes the acting worse. At least that's how I feel... it started after Fight Club I think.

Well, again, if I was in Fight Club, I'd probably have a bit of arrogance about it, too. It's one of the greatest films of all time, in my opinion.

-AC

Originally posted by queeq
I meant Norton... pretentious as an actor... and that seeps through in a little overanxious style, as if he's trying to say: look how good I am. And that makes the acting worse. At least that's how I feel... it started after Fight Club I think.

I totally disagree, I think Norton isn't at all pretentious he actually seems the opposite to me and if he seems a bit pretentious in this film well then hes quite right because he did write it , its like his baby lol

Nah Norton's definitely a tad on the pretentious side.

What has given people this impression?

I'm curious.

-AC

Originally posted by Robtard
Yes, it is abomination, they're not going to call it that, since it's silly. He'll be know as "Blonsky", i.e. the charactors last name.

Great fight scene that was.

What a silly last name, Blonsky!

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
What has given people this impression?

I'm curious.

-AC

As am I.

Originally posted by Robtard
Probably a thread about this already; couldn't find it in the movie forum though, so here it is.

The Incredible Hulk

This looks 598.7% better than Ang Lee's version. As a Hulk fan, I am exuberant they made a reboot and not a sequel, and I am especially glad they're making it more like the comic story this time around.

The grittyness/roughness look of this Hulk is definitely a move in the right direction, Ang Lee's always looked to shiny and boyish looking for me.

I agree with everything you have said Robtard.I also am very happy they are rebooting this franchise instead of making a sequal to it.I could not stand Ang Lees movie.This one looks more promising and I agree that this Hulk movie looks like its headed in the right direction.Like Queeq said,that whole father son thing in Ang Lees version was just really lame and stupid.I also think Norton will do a better job with the role than Eric Banana did.

Originally posted by suprmanvsbatman
Yeah I agree i dont actually enjoy The Hulk its one of few comics i actually dont like but i do think the movie looks good and I agree with your spiderman comment.I think they could remake them a lot better in the future.

Yeah I never read The Hulk comics either.I loved the show.Thats because Bill Bixby is my favorite hollywood actor of all time.I was so sad when he died.He was as nice of a person in real life as he was on that show from what I have heard.He really got into his role and made the show fun and exciting.That makes 3 of us who agree about his spider-man comment.my sig says it all on that. yeah they could remake them so much more better in the future than what they have done with them.chris Nolan showed once you have a director that knows what he is doing,a good comicbook movie can be made to redeem the horrible mistakes the previous films did with his amazing Batman Begins movie.

Originally posted by Robtard
Probably a thread about this already; couldn't find it in the movie forum though, so here it is.

The Incredible Hulk

This looks 598.7% better than Ang Lee's version. As a Hulk fan, I am exuberant they made a reboot and not a sequel, and I am especially glad they're making it more like the comic story this time around.

The grittyness/roughness look of this Hulk is definitely a move in the right direction, Ang Lee's always looked to shiny and boyish looking for me.
Whenever I see Ang Lee's version on cable, I know exactly when to tune in to watch Hulk fight the army. I can watch that over and over again; and it's here that Ang Lee's Hulk works very well.

But I am definitely looking forward to this reboot. I don't know how well Norton will work as Banner (not low-key enough, it seems), but he is a good actor. As for this CGI Hulk: seems leaner than Lee's, not sure if I like that. But he definitely looks harder and meaner...and if that's the Abomination.....cool.

Originally posted by =Tired Hiker=
I hope this thread stays here in the Movie Discussion forum. I'd rather discuss this with normal movie fans, not comic book fanatics who are going to dissect everything from which side Bruce Banner parts his hair to how the skin tone of Hulk is actually a bit darker in the comic.

I think Edward Norton will blow away Eric Bana as Bruce Banner. Eric Bana looked to much like a jock frat boy and not enough like a nerdy scientist. I want to see a skinny little nerd turn into the Hulk, which is better for the whole Jekyll and Hyde vibe anyway.

I pretty much agree with everything you say.I also think Norton will blow Bana away easily.I also hope this thread stays in the movie discussion section for the reasons you mentioned about comicbook fans wanting to dissect everything from which side Bruce parts his hair and what not.

Originally posted by Mindship
Whenever I see Ang Lee's version on cable, I know exactly when to tune in to watch Hulk fight the army. I can watch that over and over again; and it's here that Ang Lee's Hulk works very well.

But I am definitely looking forward to this reboot. I don't know how well Norton will work as Banner (not low-key enough, it seems), but he is a good actor. As for this CGI Hulk: seems leaner than Lee's, not sure if I like that. But he definitely looks harder and meaner...and if that's the Abomination.....cool.

Yeah, I really liked the Hulk fights the army scene as well. I could watch that over and over. The sound, the effects, everything was done just right. I actually do hope the new Hulk will be wall to wall action. Too much plot building could make this film boring, which is what happened in Ang Lee's, but I still really liked Ang Lee's, but I think this will be better.

Originally posted by Mindship
Whenever I see Ang Lee's version on cable, I know exactly when to tune in to watch Hulk fight the army. I can watch that over and over again; and it's here that Ang Lee's Hulk works very well.

But I am definitely looking forward to this reboot. I don't know how well Norton will work as Banner (not low-key enough, it seems), but he is a good actor. As for this CGI Hulk: seems leaner than Lee's, not sure if I like that. But he definitely looks harder and meaner...and if that's the Abomination.....cool.

I'm confidant in Norton's abilities, when he likes a role, he does a top-notch job at it, imo.

I also like the leaner, meaner and harder looking Hulk, as to me, he should look like a Scottish bar-brawler, not some roided-out Pillsbury doughboy, as he did in Ang's version.

I can give or take the idea of him getting bigger as he gets madder. I just hope they do show that he does get stronger, at least by feats, if not by size.

A 26 minute fight scene could go either way.

Look at what happened with Agent Smith Vs Neo.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
A 26 minute fight scene could go either way.

Look at what happened with Agent Smith Vs Neo.

-AC I hardly remember that fight, so it was obviously not all that impressive, but then again the second two Matrix films weren't all that impressive to me. I hope the Hulk fight will be better.

Originally posted by queeq
nd the editing was astounding, I doubt they will beat that.

Yes, the editing in the original was awesome. I couldn't believe how that pieced together all those scenes like that at some points....really great for the ADD type, imo.


I am looking forward to the new Hulk film....GREATLY. I loved the first. I am really just in love with the concept.

Seriously, I just want to see HULK thrash. I don't even care about a story.

Originally posted by =Tired Hiker=
Seriously, I just want to see HULK thrash. I don't even care about a story.

omg...that is soooooo immature...













me too

You know, sometimes a deep plot is cool, character development can be great . ... .. but it's the HULK. Just show me him destroying a bunch of stuff and making loud noises and I'm happy.

Originally posted by Mr Parker
Yeah I never read The Hulk comics either.I loved the show.Thats because Bill Bixby is my favorite hollywood actor of all time.I was so sad when he died.He was as nice of a person in real life as he was on that show from what I have heard.He really got into his role and made the show fun and exciting.That makes 3 of us who agree about his spider-man comment.my sig says it all on that. yeah they could remake them so much more better in the future than what they have done with them.chris Nolan showed once you have a director that knows what he is doing,a good comicbook movie can be made to redeem the horrible mistakes the previous films did with his amazing Batman Begins movie.

Amen to that :P

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Look at what happened with Agent Smith Vs Neo.
I know when to tune in just for that, too.

Also timed:
- Superman 2: Superman fighting Zod, et al, in the city (though this is one great entire film. Still, when I don't have the time...)
- Spiderman 2: first fight with Doc Ock (same comment as above, re: whole film) AND when Spidey's swinging through the buildings (in film 1 AND 2). Oh, and that train fight...
- Superman Returns: the whole plane scene. It took almost 70 YEARS to finally get it right, how Superman in flight should really look. Plus the gatling gun scene as well.
- and while I'm at it: in Matrix 2, scenes of Neo fighting all those Smiths; and the whole freeway scene...and any part with Monica Belucci in it.

Originally posted by =Tired Hiker=
You know, sometimes a deep plot is cool, character development can be great . ... .. but it's the HULK. Just show me him destroying a bunch of stuff and making loud noises and I'm happy. yes

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
What has given people this impression?

I'm curious.

-AC

A couple of things actually. His meddling into editing American History X is one. Then there is his very strong influence on production, story and post-production, he's quite powerful, and then he makes films like Red Dragon and The Illusionist. And he plays them like he's up for his new Oscar, while the films are not really great.

I mean, Fight Club rules, a great favourite of mine and I think Norton is great in that. But so was Brad Pitt, and he still does great work. I feel Norton's gotten a bit mainstream and thinks he's very very good... A little modesty might do him good, a little less control over production, direction and post mmight do wonders.

His CV is a tad iffy. Fight Club hits a slightly pretentious vibe as it is, getting the "much indier than thou" label, despite being a major studio production and his performance in The Score is a mere gimmick. He's a brilliant actor, and a chameleon at that (Kingdom of Heaven anyone?), but I still can't see him as Bruce Banner.

EDIT: I would like to see him take a role in any given stock blockbuster, just to see how he copes in an environment he hasn't had much influence on. Of course, the guy is Edward Norton, he doesn't have to do any movie he can get, but for once he should act like the actor he is and not go for the "pseudo-auteur maverick" look he wants.

Tim Roth though, that's good casting, even if again its the British Actor as the villain.

Roth rules.

I'm wondering why people think he needs to take lesser roles than he feels his ability is up to, just to show modesty.

Fight Club was very much an "indie" movie, at least in intention. Fincher said himself that the fact they even got the budget they did without having to sacrifice much is shocking.

That's why it didn't do well, because it was a movie aimed at a specific audience that was broadcasted to a massive audience. It, like many great movies that stupid people don't appreciate, found it's acclaim when it came out on DVD.

I don't care if Norton thinks he's very, very good. He is, in my opinion. He's not had the mainstream, rampant success of say, Christian Bale, who remains intensely humble, but he has still done enough to at least warrant such acclaim for a little while longer.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
I'm wondering why people think he needs to take lesser roles than he feels his ability is up to, just to show modesty.-AC

Not lesser roles. I liked him in Fight Club and American History X... But nowadays I feel he plays his roles appear more than they are, but then they aren't. I'd like to see him sink his teeth in something tough for a change.

So much of that post didn't make sense, literally.

-AC

Whatever... Take roles like in Red Dragon and The Illusionist... They are not great films.. his acting is not bad but doesn't really make it lift above average. Yet, the way he plays it... it kinda looks like he feels he's doing an Oscar Winning performance. And yet... it doesn't really hit home.
Just compare his Will Graham to William Petersen version in Manhunter... Norton falls short even though he is the better actor.

Originally posted by queeq
Whatever... Take roles like in Red Dragon and The Illusionist... They are not great films.. his acting is not bad but doesn't really make it lift above average. Yet, the way he plays it... it kinda looks like he feels he's doing an Oscar Winning performance.

what do you want him to act worse just because the films are Mediocre... hes a great actor and should always act as if he wants an Oscar, why shouldn't he? i

Originally posted by suprmanvsbatman
what do you want him to act worse just because those films arent amazing? hes a great actor and should always act as if he wants an Oscar, why shouldn't he? i

Didn't do the film any harm Every actor has his crap movies Queeq, he might have been in Red Dragon, and The Illusionist, but also around that time he had films like Down in the Valley(not amazing, but he was fantastic in it) and The Painted Veil.

I'm also looking forwards to him in Motherless Brooklyn playing a character with Tourettes, that should be good. Books decent. Also Pride and Glory looks rather good.

I don't find him pretentious at all.

yep i reckon he will be good in both, I loved him in 25th hour

Point is he is more in control of production these days. And i don't think he IS acting Oscar worthy. I think he can do a lot better but I feel he's doing the best he can.

He has never done anything Oscar worthy. Just leave it at that.

Originally posted by exanda kane
He has never done anything Oscar worthy. Just leave it at that.

He received Oscar nomination for both his role in American History X and Primal Fear, if he wasn't Oscar worthy he wouldnt have been nominated so no you just leave it at that haha.

He has definitely done roles that were Oscar worthy. But to win, I don't know, can't remember who was up in the years those films came out.

What is Oscar worthy though?

Dreamgirls was nominated for about five.

-AC

1996 Cuba Gooding, Jr won best supporting actor over ed norton, which was deserved cause he was amazin in Jerry Maguire,
Roberto Begnigni in Life is Beautiful won it over ed in 1998

Originally posted by =Tired Hiker=
Seriously, I just want to see HULK thrash. I don't even care about a story.

Well, you can get that experience from those godawful Hulk Comic Books.

This coming from a man with The Flash and Wonder Woman in his sig.

-AC

Originally posted by suprmanvsbatman
He received Oscar nomination for both his role in American History X and Primal Fear, if he wasn't Oscar worthy he wouldnt have been nominated so no you just leave it at that haha.

Then why didn't he win an Oscar?

And yes, we can shove ourselves into an argument of defining what is Oscar worthy but we'll get nowhere.

Personally I think Edward Norton should act for a change, not try and play God with every single production he is in; if anyones seen Keeping the Faith you would want that to happen too.

Rubbish, utter rubbish.

True true, wasn't Norbit nominated for something this year?

Originally posted by exanda kane
Then why didn't he win an Oscar?

And yes, we can shove ourselves into an argument of defining what is Oscar worthy but we'll get nowhere.

he never won it cause there was obviously someone more deserved who won it over him but if he wasn't worthy he wouldn't have been nominated in the first place lol, well put it this way there wouldnt even be a new incredible hulk if it wasn't for him he's the one that wrote the screenplay.

Originally posted by MildPossession
True true, wasn't Norbit nominated for something this year?

A Razzie....

Yeah but it got an Oscar nomination too. Just looked it up, and it was for Make-up...

I don't pay attention to the Oscars anymore. So I'll take your word for it.

Originally posted by suprmanvsbatman
he never won it cause there was obviously someone more deserved who won it over him but if he wasn't worthy he wouldn't have been nominated in the first place lol, well put it this way there wouldnt even be a new incredible hulk if it wasn't for him he's the one that wrote the screenplay.

Yay. Another superhero movie to put on the shelf with the rest of the summer disappointments. Great point there kiddo.

You're the my-glass-is-half-full guy I suppose.

Originally posted by exanda kane
Yay. Another superhero movie to put on the shelf with the rest of the summer disappointments. Great point there kiddo.

Do me a favour, please?

Don't pay money to go see The Incredible Hulk, don't even download it or give time to it.

I'm genuinely so sick of people having such iron clad judgements of things before even experiencing them, especially negatively, but doing so anyway, just so they can moan.

If you're that sure, stay away from it.

-AC

Originally posted by exanda kane
Yay. Another superhero movie to put on the shelf with the rest of the summer disappointments.

Yeah, I don't think Iron Man would be any better.

I think Ironman will be a hell of a lot better than the Hulk movie.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
I'm genuinely so sick of people having such iron clad judgements of things before even experiencing them, especially negatively, but doing so anyway, just so they can moan.

If you're that sure, stay away from it.

-AC

Give yourself a break, please fidgetty. I'll make a signpost a la Mr.Tourette next time to tell you when I'm responding to someones comment in particular; I wouldd have thought the quotation would have solved it for you but I guess I'm not as much of an all-rounder as I thought.

Not to get too angsty, but supermanvscatwomanwhatever used logic to the same as 'if it wasn't for Edward Norton, this "reboot" of the Hulk wouldn't be happening.' I'm pretty sure there was get-go on this production before he was involved for a start, let alone supermanvscatwomanwhatever seemingly assuming that I am thankful for a film that will positively change my life. It won't change my life. Even if it has Edward Norton in it. I think I'm justified in my response to the guy frankly.

Yet again, as you could have read, I am all up for Supreme Ruler Norton and the Incredible Hulk to prove me wrong.

My reply was in general to the kind of attitude you seem to have toward these movies.

-AC

I was intentionally over the top in my response to a silly statement. I can write that out for you in big letters if you want next time, okay?

Technically if I didn't understand what you said, letter size wouldn't matter, it wouldn't alter the content. That's neither here nor there.

I get what you mean, I just don't believe you meant it entirely comedically, and that your pre-judgement will carry over.

We'll see.

-AC

Originally posted by exanda kane
Give yourself a break, please fidgetty. I'll make a signpost a la Mr.Tourette next time to tell you when I'm responding to someones comment in particular; I wouldd have thought the quotation would have solved it for you but I guess I'm not as much of an all-rounder as I thought.

Not to get too angsty, but supermanvscatwomanwhatever used logic to the same as 'if it wasn't for Edward Norton, this "reboot" of the Hulk wouldn't be happening.' I'm pretty sure there was get-go on this production before he was involved for a start, let alone supermanvscatwomanwhatever seemingly assuming that I am thankful for a film that will positively change my life. It won't change my life. Even if it has Edward Norton in it. I think I'm justified in my response to the guy frankly.

Yet again, as you could have read, I am all up for Supreme Ruler Norton and the Incredible Hulk to prove me wrong.

Your favourite actor is Harrison Ford... nuff said

There's nothing wrong with Harrison Ford.

-AC

didn't say there was anything wrong with him but Edward Norton is a far better actor

Edward Norton is not a better actor. He certainly plays different characters but couldn't pull off as many memorable characters as Ford. But if you want to debate that, do it in the relevant forum.

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
Well, you can get that experience from those godawful Hulk Comic Books. Not the same. With comic books you don't get that pulse pounding sound or the widescreen presentation.

Originally posted by =Tired Hiker=
Not the same. With comic books you don't get that pulse pounding sound or the widescreen presentation.

Yeah plus the comics sucked, who wouldn't want to see The Hulk in a 26 min live action fight sequence though... should be amusing

Originally posted by suprmanvsbatman
Yeah plus the comics sucked,

No argument from me.

Batman is well shit though.

Boring, for people with no imagination. That's why all fans of him don't like The Hulk.

-AC

I never read the Hulk comics, I did however like the TV show as a kid. I also happened to like Ang Lee's movie, but I think this new one will be way better. As far as the 26 minute fight scene goes, I hope it's not the only real action in the movie. I hate having to sit through an hour and a half of plot development regarding stuff I don't care about just so the creators of a comic book movie can be true to the comic book. Like I said, I just want to see Hulk thrash. I want to see action. I want to see Bruce Banner get beat up and pissed on by the bad guys, and then I want to see him turn into the Hulk and bust up some hood.

Originally posted by =Tired Hiker=
I never read the Hulk comics, I did however like the TV show as a kid.

Don't read the new retarded comics. Read the paperbacks made by Stan Lee with Jack Kirby and other great writers. The TV show was a classic.

Wait, wait.

Why go see a comic book movie then? When making a comic book movie, people will evidently try to stay true to the comic book. Why go see it, then moan that you have to see it?

They will more cater to fans of the comics than fans of something smashing stuff up. Go see Rambo for that. If you wanna see The Hulk, you are obliged to sit through the things we, the more important fans, want to see. We're not necessarily better, we're just more important and, let's face it, better.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
If you wanna see The Hulk, you are obliged to sit through the things we, the more important fans, want to see. We're not necessarily better, we're just more important and, let's face it, better.

-AC

Okay, now you got my attention after sucha stupid comment (not like you been saying anything important)

Who are these so-called "important fans"?

You mean fanboys? Ha! That's funny.

im a comicbook fan and i'll go see any comic book movie. I like The Hulk in crossover comics and such but as a series i just never got into it, but I agree with you the hulk fans are obviously more important cause they actually know whats going on but i wouldn't say they were better lol

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
Okay, now you got my attention after sucha stupid comment (not like you been saying anything important)

Who are these so-called "important fans"?

You mean fanboys? Ha! That's funny.

A) It was meant in humour. Should have remembered you need humour drawn in crayola.

B) You haven't exactly been chipping in with anything of value either have you? I, as a fan of the comics, have been discussing it with interest. You've been saying how shitty the comics are because you dislike Hulk, rather than just...leaving the thread. Don't try to bait, then moan when you fall for the fish, dear boy.

C) The ones who read the comics and have followed the character for a greater number of years, not someone who enjoyed the T.V. show, doesn't read the comics, and has no appreciation for the character other than seeing him fight.

That would be the equivelent of making Batman movies all flashy and about gadgetry, zany characters and hunky males to appeal to people who aren't Batman fans. Like Batman Forever and Batman & Robin, two movies you, as a Batman fan, didn't like, correct? I, as a Hulk fan, want to avoid a Hulk movie in the style of those movies.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
A) It was meant in humour. Should have remembered you need humour drawn in crayola.

B) You haven't exactly been chipping in with anything of value either have you? I, as a fan of the comics, have been discussing it with interest. You've been saying how shitty the comics are because you dislike Hulk, rather than just...leaving the thread. Don't try to bait, then moan when you fall for the fish, dear boy.

C) The ones who read the comics and have followed the character for a greater number of years, not someone who enjoyed the T.V. show, doesn't read the comics, and has no appreciation for the character other than seeing him fight.

That would be the equivelent of making Batman movies all flashy and about gadgetry, zany characters and hunky males to appeal to people who aren't Batman fans. Like Batman Forever and Batman & Robin, two movies you, as a Batman fan, didn't like, correct? I, as a Hulk fan, want to avoid a Hulk movie in the style of those movies.

-AC

A) Yeah, uh-huh...humor...you funny man. Great way to try and sneak out with the hand caught inside the cookie jar. Your little remark of "important fans" was just sooo identical to the SW fans of three years ago whom were trying to imply that a "real fan" of SW franchise must like Episode III. Which is flawed, stupid, and extremely absurd form of discussion.

B) I happen to like Hulk comics. I don't happen to like the newer Hulk comics because in truth...they're shit to me. Bait? you're the one bringing in Batman, Wonder Woman and Flash...which have NOTHING to do with this discussion. Who is baiting who? YOU!

C) The ones who read the comics for years and followed the character aren't all going to agree that these movies made about the Hulk are good. That is a job for the fanboys to say.

You pulling the same gimmick debate like in other threads. Someone says something about your favorites and you don't agree....you retaliate with picking on something the other person likes. Your gimmicks have grown extremely old AC. Yes, I now await your infamous Coldplay and U2 remarks. Which I would be quite surprise if you don't raise them in your response.



Incorrect! I happen to like Batman Forever and Batman & Robin for their silliness, campy, and absurdities. Just like the original Batman tv series of the 60's. However, I make a clear distinction between movie goer and fan. As a movie goer...those two films are godawful and terrible. As a fan...they're still bad! but are so absurd I find them comical.

See, I can judge a film as two opposites...as a fan and as movie goer. I never confuse the two. You on the other hand are going with "no matter how bad it turns....I'm going to defend it!"

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
A) It was meant in humour. Should have remembered you need humour drawn in crayola.

B) You haven't exactly been chipping in with anything of value either have you? I, as a fan of the comics, have been discussing it with interest. You've been saying how shitty the comics are because you dislike Hulk, rather than just...leaving the thread. Don't try to bait, then moan when you fall for the fish, dear boy.

C) The ones who read the comics and have followed the character for a greater number of years, not someone who enjoyed the T.V. show, doesn't read the comics, and has no appreciation for the character other than seeing him fight.

That would be the equivelent of making Batman movies all flashy and about gadgetry, zany characters and hunky males to appeal to people who aren't Batman fans. Like Batman Forever and Batman & Robin, two movies you, as a Batman fan, didn't like, correct? I, as a Hulk fan, want to avoid a Hulk movie in the style of those movies.

-AC


AWESOME! LOL!!

I have a gut feeling that this will be the Hulk movie, to end all Hulk movies, yeah I know it's early, but the more I read up on it, the better it seems like it will be.

To all you whiny and bitchy doubters, may Hulk crush your heads.

http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/9926/wwhx01pg00ie2.jpg

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
A) Yeah, uh-huh...humor...you funny man. Great way to try and sneak out with the hand caught inside the cookie jar. Your little remark of "important fans" was just sooo identical to the SW fans of three years ago whom were trying to imply that a "real fan" of SW franchise must like Episode III. Which is flawed, stupid, and extremely absurd.

You don't actually get to decide what I meant, I'm sorry to inform you of that. The "better" part was in humour.

The important part, admittedly, was semi-humour. I'm not trying to sneak OUT of anything, I'm just tiring of you feeling like you can take a chunk of text, interpret it however you desire, and then spend pages arguing against an intent that didn't ever exist.

Hulk fans are more important because it's a Hulk movie. Tim Story didn't consider F4 fans the most important audience, look what happened to those movies. I am not saying that die-hards are the only aim, that isn't the case and I don't expect it to be. Every director would want to make it accessible to new watchers and old fans, but by implication, you go to see The Incredible Hulk because you have some interest in the character. Someone who has no interest in it wouldn't, shouldn't go. Therefore, by even MAKING the movie, the fans are the more important audience.

I'm making nothing LIKE that sort of claim. I'm not sitting here saying "If you are a Hulk fan you have to like the movie.", am I? No. Still no progress in the area of grasping points I see.

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
B) I happen to like Hulk comics. I don't happen to like the newer Hulk comics because in truth...they're shit to me. Bait? you're the one bringing in Batman, Wonder Woman and Flash...which have NOTHING to do with this discussion. Who is baiting who? YOU!

Let's review the stats;

You've posted nine times in this thread, including this one. Five of them were needless "I think the new comics are shit."-esque comments, one of which was "This movie WILL be shit...I can sense it.". If you care that little, why remain here to just rip on Hulk? I said what I did about characters you like (I actually like Batman too) because you were clearly doing it to people here.

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
C) The ones who read the comics for years and followed the character aren't all going to agree that these movies made about the Hulk are good. That is a job for the fanboys to say.

Where did I ever say that? I said people who have enjoyed and appreciated the character for years, for more than just smashing things, are the ones this movie SHOULD be aimed at, and are more of an important audience than folks like Tired Hiker who don't WANT to read the comics, don't WANT to see plot, and just want action.

YOU are the one assuming I feel everyone has to agree it's good. I don't. My only point was that if you're going to see The Hulk, don't ***** about having to see sub-plot, cos that is there for us, the ones who have genuine interest in the character. If you want action, go see action. Don't request a film with heavy fan-base interest be compromised because you can't handle story.

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
You pulling the same debate like in other threads. Someone says something about your favorites and you don't agree....you retaliate with picking on something the other person likes. Your gimmicks have grown extremely old AC. Yes, I now await your infamous Coldplay and U2 remarks. Which I would be quite surprise if you don't raise them in your response.

I like Batman, what can I diss Batman about? Nothing, I like Batman. I was doing that to prove a point. You criticised me for not saying anything interesting, didn't you? What have you added? Five posts of needless negativity and a few musings about Razzies.

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
Incorrect! I happen to like Batman Forever and Batman & Robin for their silliness, campy, and absurdities. Just like the original Batman tv series of the 60's. However, I make a clear distinction between movie goer and fan. As a movie goer...those two films are godawful and terrible. As a fan...they're still bad! but are so absurd I find them comical.

Then to each their own, you enjoy them and that's up to you. Let me ask you a question as you are a Batman fan, ok? Batman Forever, Batman & Robin...OR...Batman Begins? As a Batman fan, speaking as a fan, which is your favourite?

Do you not see why, as a fan, I do not wish to see a character bastardised for the sake of the masses who just want to see him smash? If you were fine with it, that's you. I would not be.

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
See, I can judge a film as two opposites...as a fan and as movie goer. I never confuse the two. You on the other hand are going with "no matter how bad it turns....I'm going to defend it!"

What are you on about? I critiqued Ang Lee's version for not being good enough, but being good at what it set out to do. I liked it, but it wasn't great, and I'm not blind enough to defend it where it obviously faltered.

Why do you insist on putting points into my posts that are never, ever there? My point is this:

Hulk fans, fans of the comics, to whatever degree (Sensible die hard to irrational fanboy, right? Whatever), are more important as an audience than someone who just wants action. What about that is so hard to understand? Here's the part you need to pay attention to:

I believe that if you, like Tired Hiker, do not want to sit through plot, then do not go to a comic book movie, because any smart director will do his or her best to stay as true to the comic books as realistically possible. The Hulk is about more than just destruction, and if he cannot handle that, it's selfish of him to suggest the film be bastardised into two hours of sheer mindless action for the benefit of people who don't even have as great an interest as comic fans. Just go see another mindless action flick, and let a director of The Incredible Hulk be more attentive to details that will satisfy the more dedicate audience.

That's essentially like saying "I'm pleased they're doing a movie adaptation of The Diary of Anne Frank, but let's just cut to the bit where there's war.". It'd be stupid.

Is this too complex? Because as always, I detect that I will have to battle my way through your intentional ignorance of my points...again.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri

You've posted nine times in this thread, including this one. Five of them were needless "I think the new comics are shit."-esque comments, one of which was "This movie WILL be shit...I can sense it.". If you care that little, why remain here to just rip on Hulk? I said what I did about characters you like (I actually like Batman too) because you were clearly doing it to people here.

-AC

You're just babbling like a complete ignorant now! This is why:

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Batman is well shit though.

Boring, for people with no imagination.

-AC

Not a SINGLE one of my opinions on the Hulk movies and the New comic books was an attack on Hulk fans (fanboys are on the other hand a different story) Not once I used a personal attack to any of the fans. You on the other hand act like 8 year child that throws tantrums whenever some one have an opinion on something you like. You do this in every forum of KMC. Whether is music, comics, movies, etc...As I mention earlier your gimmicks are older than the pyramids. This is the reason why I don't engage in ANY kind of discussions with you anymore. You're full of it and a complete waste of time.

Here I was.... mind my own business making my comments and there you were trying to look for ways to provoke me. You failed. The only time you got my attention was when you made that ludicrous comment. Which you're trying to disguise as simple joke. That's a crock of BS!



No one cares if you like Batman! No one cares if you hate Batman! And I certainly don't care what you think of the character! Unlike you I can live with other people's opinions. I don't have to throw tantrums when someone says something critical about my favorite character. Not my business and certainly not going to get work out.



You detect wrong! Just because you see me posting in the same thread as you do...it doesn't mean I'm looking forward to talking with you. I have no interests and don't waste my time. I would really appreciate you take that into consideration next time you see me in the same thread with you.







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With that shenanigans out of the way....

Hulk's new comics blow chunks....I still think this upcoming Hulk movie will be shit until I'm prove wrong....and that's that!

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
You're just babbling like a complete ignorant now! This is why:

What was wrong with the whole massive chunks of my post that you skipped? Too relevant and correct? Oh...it's a waste of time? Yeah, anyway. Let me just reply to the entirely off-topic and irrelevant post you just dedicated the time to writing, to me, a waste of your time.

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
Not a SINGLE one of my opinions on the Hulk movies and the New comic books was an attack on Hulk fans (fanboys are on the other hand a different story) Not once I used a personal attack to any of the fans. You on the other hand act like 8 year child that throws tantrums whenever some one have an opinion on something you like. You do this in every forum of KMC. Whether is music, comics, movies, etc...As I mention earlier your gimmicks are older than the pyramids. This is the reason why I don't engage in ANY kind of discussions with you anymore. You're full of it and a complete waste of time.

The difference between you and I is that I can actually differentiate between things that are and are not meant seriously. Even you, people like you, with the absolute worse interpretive and perceptive debate skills, can tell that it was a rash, generalising statement that wasn't serious. I don't believe Batman is shit, nor his general fanbase unimaginative and boring, but you obviously wanted to take it seriously because you're like that.

Waste of time? How does THAT work? You've just taken the time to reply, but none of it was to any of the huge parts of my post actually relevant to the thread. All you did was pick out a couple of lines, an entirely separate post and then just balls up the interpretation in trademark WrathfulDwarf style. It's an appropriate name, WrathfulDwarf. Because nobody comes up short with such wrath than you do, when it comes to debates. Hence why you avoided every single part of my post that was, funnily enough, on topic.

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
Here I was.... mind my own business making my comments and there you were trying to look for ways to provoke me. You failed. The only time you got my attention was when you made that ludicrous comment. Which you're trying to disguise as simple joke. That's a crock of BS!

Disguised? No, it was. You obviously need things spelled out, and to save face, insist that you are right in interpreting someone else's words. Even people who dislike my style of posting could quite easily see that it was an unfounded, generalistic claim that I obviously do not believe, much less agree with.

But...you're WrathfulDwarf, and as I said previously, I predicted this. You chose to accuse me of not posting anything of relevance despite my contributions to this thread being of greater number and relevant content than yours. Another fact you chose to avoid my address of in my previous post.

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
No one cares if you like Batman! No one cares if you hate Batman! And I certainly don't care what you think of the character! Unlike you I can live with other people's opinions. I don't have to throw tantrums when someone says something critical about my favorite character. Not my business and certainly not going to get work out.

Yeah, you don't throw tantrums...like now. Here you are, not throwing a tantrum about something you didn't mess up, not wasting time on replying to me; an alleged waste of time.

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
You detect wrong! Just because you see me posting in the same thread as you do...it doesn't mean I'm looking forward to talking with you. I have no interests and don't waste my time.

You realise how silly you are making yourself look by saying this, right? As you typed that huge, bitchfest of a reply to me, you do realise the contradiction in doing that, and saying you "Don't waste (Your) time" speaking to me, right?

Either admit you can't resist or actually resist. Don't do one and then claim you always do the other. You didn't reply to any of my post regarding the film and the ideas that sparked this discussion in the first place, cos you love to whine. Maybe it's you being annoyed at yourself because your desire to brush me aside in debates does not coincide with your actual ability in debates, but whatever it is, you do need to sort it out.

-AC

AC caught up in more bickering? Is that a pattern or just coincidence?

Way to insult and taunt a moderator, Alpha.

*Hands pom poms out* There you go.

I am AFRAID I'm all out of oversized novelty lips, so you may have to just stick to cheering and exaggerated instigation (That I would assume W.D. is smarter than to fall for) as opposed to ass kissing today. I'd offer you some comedic half-vision glasses, capable of letting you see only the side you desire, but it appears you've already indulged yourself in those. Good though, aren't they? Such a fun item.

How about that Hulk, eh? That's what I'm interested in discussing, I've handled my business with W.D. and I assume he won't waste any more time on a "waste of time" as he claims I am. So we can now move on to discussing The Hulk. This is depending on how you handle the inevitable compulsion you will both feel to reply, which you are responsible for, as I am now going to attempt to put this behind and move the thread onward.

What aspects of the comics do people (Preferably comics fans) feel is utterly necessary for the movie, or not necessary? Realistically, within the two or so hours this movie will last, what aspects of The Hulk's character are essential to express?

We've seen Ang Lee accurately portray one side and forget the other, so doing the complete opposite isn't the greatest way to go, so what would be the balance?

Not this:

http://www.factology.com/hulk_bill_bixby.jpg

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
*Hands pom poms out* There you go.

I am AFRAID I'm all out of oversized novelty lips, so you may have to just stick to cheering and exaggerated instigation (That I would assume W.D. is smarter than to fall for) as opposed to ass kissing today. I'd offer you some comedic half-vision glasses, capable of letting you see only the side you desire, but it appears you've already indulged yourself in those. Good though, aren't they? Such a fun item.

How about that Hulk, eh? That's what I'm interested in discussing, I've handled my business with W.D. and I assume he won't waste any more time on a "waste of time" as he claims I am. So we can now move on to discussing The Hulk. This is depending on how you handle the inevitable compulsion you will both feel to reply, which you are responsible for, as I am now going to attempt to put this behind and move the thread onward.

What aspects of the comics do people (Preferably comics fans) feel is utterly necessary for the movie, or not necessary? Realistically, within the two or so hours this movie will last, what aspects of The Hulk's character are essential to express?

We've seen Ang Lee accurately portray one side and forget the other, so doing the complete opposite isn't the greatest way to go, so what would be the balance?

Not this:

http://www.factology.com/hulk_bill_bixby.jpg

-AC

I smell I rebellion. Way to stick it to 'the man'.

Ok, we can work with some of those words;

"The man", Hulk is indeed the man. So, let's progress that idea into a discussion about, not just him, but his movie!

"What aspects of the comics do people (Preferably comics fans) feel is utterly necessary for the movie, or not necessary? Realistically, within the two or so hours this movie will last, what aspects of The Hulk's character are essential to express?

We've seen Ang Lee accurately portray one side and forget the other, so doing the complete opposite isn't the greatest way to go, so what would be the balance?".

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Wait, wait.

Why go see a comic book movie then? When making a comic book movie, people will evidently try to stay true to the comic book. Why go see it, then moan that you have to see it?

They will more cater to fans of the comics than fans of something smashing stuff up. Go see Rambo for that. If you wanna see The Hulk, you are obliged to sit through the things we, the more important fans, want to see. We're not necessarily better, we're just more important and, let's face it, better.

-AC

Why make a Hulk film then? Why not just read the comic? Special effects have improved so much in the past few decades which is why we get so many comic book movies these days. I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of Hulk comic readers enjoy reading Hulk because they are fans of smashing stuff up, that is why they'll go see the movie as well. As far as being better or not, whatever you are on about I don't really care to discuss that point, it doesn't matter to me. As far as a Hulk film, yes I want a story, I just don't want 90% of the film to be bogged down with a boring way to explain a back-story or the set up via dialogue and no action. I've read many comic books and they can achieve telling a good story through the action, or by keeping the story interesting with clever dialogue and interesting characters when there is no action. I'm sure the Hulk comic has all that, so it's up to the filmmakers to translate it to screen in a way that will capture the feel of the comic in or around two hours of screen time. I just don't want that translation to be boring, otherwise, like I said, why not just read the comic?. It's a comic book movie. Tell the story, but get to the action quick, and make it fun.

Originally posted by =Tired Hiker=
Why make a Hulk film then? Why not just read the comic? Special effects have improved so much in the past few decades which is why we get so many comic book movies these days. I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of Hulk comic readers enjoy reading Hulk because they are fans of smashing stuff up, that is why they'll go see the movie as well.

Hulk very rarely "smashes stuff up", if truth be told. The Incredible Hulk was never some kind of reckless, mindless action comic. It's exciting, and of course there's the action side, and I guess that it does have great potential for a movie, but my point is;

You're not going to make it if you're not a fan. If we are to assume the director is a fan, and we know Norton is a fan, then we must assume that they will try their very best to cater to the true fans (Because yes, true fans exist, it's not some kind of non-existent fanboy claim) first. Sure, I'm not expecting it to be 100%, not-a-hair-out-of-place accuracy. I recognise that there has to be a degree of "How do we entice folks who aren't true/die-hard/huge fans, but know the character enough to come see it?". So I recognise and even accept the idea that "smashing stuff up" is to be included.

I just don't feel that you should expect the bastardisation of a much loved character just because you want mindless action. If it's specific Hulk action you want, you are therefore obliged to sit through the plot, which SHOULD be there for those who appreciate the character more.

Originally posted by =Tired Hiker=
As far as being better or not, whatever you are on about I don't really care to discuss that point, it doesn't matter to me. As far as a Hulk film, yes I want a story, I just don't want 90% of the film to be bogged down with a boring way to explain a back-story or the set up via dialogue and no action. I've read many comic books and they can achieve telling a good story through the action, or by keeping the story interesting with clever dialogue and interesting characters when there is no action. I'm sure the Hulk comic has all that, so it's up to the filmmakers to translate it to screen in a way that will capture the feel of the comic in or around two hours of screen time. I just don't want that translation to be boring, otherwise, like I said, why not just read the comic?. It's a comic book movie. Tell the story, but get to the action quick, and make it fun.

The "better" thing was a joke, there are good and bad fans in every fanbase.

Well that's fair enough, I was under the impression you wanted to do away with the story completely or entirely compromise it. The Hulk's story in the comics, as well as compelling, is exciting. If your point is that the story SHOULD be there, but should be told in an interesting and exciting way, then I entirely agree.

-AC

I did say just show me Hulk thrash, which was an exaggeration on my part. But compared to Ang Lee's version, I do want to see more of Hulk thrashing. To me, that was the best part of the movie. However, I do want the story to be told, and I want good action.

Originally posted by =Tired Hiker=
I did say just show me Hulk thrash, which was an exaggeration on my part. But compared to Ang Lee's version, I do want to see more of Hulk thrashing. To me, that was the best part of the movie. However, I do want the story to be told, and I want good action.

If you read up on what Norton has done to the screenplay, you get the aspect that he indeed captured (or at least tried to) that balance. The story starts off with Banner already as the Hulk, so that 30-40 minutes Ang Lee spent in the beginning of the film to explain why the Hulk exist, Norton will do in a matter of minutes through multiple flashbacks, which is ingenious, imo. He also taking the time to show the connection between Banner, Betty Ross and Hulk, which is another important facet of the Hulk storyline.

My cousin, who is working on this movie, thinks it's going to be shit because they're giving Ed Norton too much creative control, and he doesn't know what he's doing.

I heard Edward Norton did a cameo in Ben-Hur as Jesus Christ.

Nah, they used Jesus Christ to try accurately representing Norton, but he wasn't great enough, sadly. Then Norton showed up on set and said "Jesus...I am your father.".

Who knew?

-AC

I did.

Originally posted by Robtard
If you read up on what Norton has done to the screenplay, you get the aspect that he indeed captured (or at least tried to) that balance. The story starts off with Banner already as the Hulk, so that 30-40 minutes Ang Lee spent in the beginning of the film to explain why the Hulk exist, Norton will do in a matter of minutes through multiple flashbacks, which is ingenious, imo. He also taking the time to show the connection between Banner, Betty Ross and Hulk, which is another important facet of the Hulk storyline.
T*ts on Ritz!! That's a smart move to cut the origin stuff short like that. Good stuff, RT. Originally posted by BackFire
My cousin, who is working on this movie, thinks it's going to be shit because they're giving Ed Norton too much creative control, and he doesn't know what he's doing. Does your cousin know about your baby raping skills?

No.

He will, though.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Nah, they used Jesus Christ to try accurately representing Norton, but he wasn't great enough, sadly. Then Norton showed up on set and said "Jesus...I am your father.".

Who knew?

-AC

They never show his face in Ben-Hur so I guess your right. Edward Norton only showed up though because he was busy giving out posies to endangered civilians in thhe middle east.

Hahahaha, quite good.

-AC

I justed watched the trailer, and I have to say that I'm quite excited. I'm glad that they decided to use the Abomination as a villain. Tim Roth seems like a good choice as Emil Blonsky.

I have high hopes. At least, in my opinion, this looks to be better than Ang Lee's version.

Originally posted by =Tired Hiker=
T*ts on Ritz!! That's a smart move to cut the origin stuff short like that.

Well, he can though. The origin story has been told. Which is always a bit of trouble with first offs in the comic book genre. The best so far is Batman Begins... Or Hellboy.

Yeah, I agree. I can't wait for Hellboy 2.

Ah adore Hellboy, I too am looking forwards to the sequel.

more hellboy, less hulk

I like how the Hellboy 2 trailer shows that other world, as if it is the same world that was in Pan's Labyrinth. Could the two be connected?

Originally posted by =Tired Hiker=
I like how the Hellboy 2 trailer shows that other world, as if it is the same world that was in Pan's Labyrinth. Could the two be connected?

Technically, impossible. The rights, continuities, and so on don't allow it.

And on that note, I can't wait for "Hellboy 2"! The moment it's released, I'm hitting the theater.

Hellboy> Hulk Movie.

Too right.

Let's go talk about Hulk in the Hellboy thread, guys.

-AC

Originally posted by exanda kane
Too right.

Indeed, as dumb and silly as Hellboy was...it had some comedic moments...where as The Hulk..."PUNY Banner"

Because Hulk, unlike Hellboy, is clearly known for comedy.

(He's not, that would be why there isn't any).

Spider-Man, Deadpool, Hellboy, these are funny characters. Hulk's no comedian. Of course, if people feel the need to be made to laugh to enjoy a movie...

-AC

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
Indeed, as dumb and silly as Hellboy was...it had some comedic moments...where as The Hulk..."PUNY Banner"




Dumb and silly? IMO, not at all.

Wow.

The Hellboy movie sucked terrible, terrible ass imo. I enjoyed Electra more then Hellboy.. and Electra also sucked terrible, terrible ass.

I loved Hellboy lol, was much better than Elektra

Good for you, mane.

Except Elektra's ass was quite good.

And in the end, that really is the only reason why Electra was better.

If a movie is going to suck total ass, it might as well be a nice looking one.

Originally posted by suprmanvsbatman
Your favourite actor is Harrison Ford... nuff said

Dude are you trying to say that Harrison Ford isnt a great actor? whats with the laughing I would say he has great taste in good actors? Harrison Ford is a great actor and takes his work seriously unlike many actors. Seriously thats damaging your credibility if thats indeed what your saying that he's not a good actor.This is the kind of comment I would expect A.C. to say,not you.If thats what your implying.shame on you.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Let's go talk about Hulk in the Hellboy thread, guys.

-AC

Thanks a lot. I went over there and you guys didn't show.

Originally posted by =Tired Hiker=
I like how the Hellboy 2 trailer shows that other world, as if it is the same world that was in Pan's Labyrinth. Could the two be connected?

Yes, actually, Del Toro convinced mignola to combine art designs and other elements from Pans Labyrinth into Hellboy2. Apparently, it took some convincing on Mignola's part, but he eventually concurred with Del Toro. With that in mind, im particularly anxious for this movie. Del toro is a great Director with epic vision and Mignola is concerned with keeping Hellboy as Hellboy. From your comment, though, i'm betting you already knew the Pan's Labyrinth thing,eh..,you is a shifty one.

Originally posted by ragesRemorse
Yes, actually, Del Toro convinced mignola to combine art designs and other elements from Pans Labyrinth into Hellboy2. Apparently, it took some convincing on Mignola's part, but he eventually concurred with Del Toro. With that in mind, im particularly anxious for this movie. Del toro is a great Director with epic vision and Mignola is concerned with keeping Hellboy as Hellboy. From your comment, though, i'm betting you already knew the Pan's Labyrinth thing,eh..,you is a shifty one. I just knew that Del Toro directed both films, I didn't know if there was some way the two could be connected. I wasn't trying to pull one on ya RR.

Originally posted by Mr Parker
Dude are you trying to say that Harrison Ford isnt a great actor? whats with the laughing I would say he has great taste in good actors? Harrison Ford is a great actor and takes his work seriously unlike many actors. Seriously thats damaging your credibility if thats indeed what your saying that he's not a good actor.This is the kind of comment I would expect A.C. to say,not you.If thats what your implying.shame on you.

You referenced me, so you get a reply.

Don't talk about damaging credibility when your favourite method of debating combat is to spout off nonsense, flame, get whooped and then put someone on ignore without admitting that you're wrong.

-AC

Originally posted by Mr Parker
Dude are you trying to say that Harrison Ford isnt a great actor? whats with the laughing I would say he has great taste in good actors? Harrison Ford is a great actor and takes his work seriously unlike many actors. Seriously thats damaging your credibility if thats indeed what your saying that he's not a good actor.This is the kind of comment I would expect A.C. to say,not you.If thats what your implying.shame on you.

i never said i didn't like Harrison Ford as an actor I was just saying I find Edward Norton to be a better actor lol

Originally posted by suprmanvsbatman
i never said i didn't like Harrison Ford as an actor I was just saying I find Edward Norton to be a better actor lol

Harrison Ford (back in the day) would have done a better job playing Bruce Banner than Edward Norton is going to do this summer.

uhh be realistic, no he wouldn't he is no Bruce Banner, admittedly the only Han Solo or Indiana Jones there could have been but no bruce banner

Originally posted by =Tired Hiker=
Thanks a lot. I went over there and you guys didn't show.


HAHAHAH!!! You are such a hilarious smart ass....


Originally posted by suprmanvsbatman
uhh be realistic, no he wouldn't he is no Bruce Banner, admittedly the only Han Solo or Indiana Jones there could have been but no bruce banner

I agree with this statement.