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she should be sued for not helping him finish

My favorite part is the passenger in front of her verifying the semen. Was this a taste test? And was the guy denying that it was his semen?

The guy was flying to Los Angeles....



...why am I not surprise?

see, this is why 'eye for an eye' justice doesn't always make sense

There's a lot of information one would need to know missing. As it seems the flight attendants indeed screwed up. Obviously 200 000$ in reparations is ridiculous, but I assume something up to 5000 might be acceptable. Also, should especially the masturbater be sued. I wish there was more information in the article, this is just really vague.

Originally posted by Schecter
see, this is why 'eye for an eye' justice doesn't always make sense

If she hadn't turned towards the window, the eye would have been the more likely spot of detonation.

well what i mean is im sure we wont see posts like:

goddamn scumbag! i'd like to cum all over his hair!

lol, I gotcha. I just didn't want to move the "Death Penalty" discussion into this thread.

This is exactly why there needs to be an adult exclusive airline where the in flight movies are always porn and masturbation is encouraged.

Well....this is rather silly.

Why sue the airline? It isn't the Airlines fault the guy jizzed on her hair, the airline isn't paid to baby-sit their passengers. Merely to fly the damn plane; everything else is kibble.

You don't see the families of 9/11 victims suing the airlines because 'they didn't police the plane'.

The bottom line : Sue the masturbator, not the airline. Also grow a goddamn spine you pathetic excuse for a female, only children and animals sit there and whine for attention, get off your rear and actually ASK for some damn help.

Hahahahahahahaha.

Originally posted by grey fox
Well....this is rather silly.

Why sue the airline? It isn't the Airlines fault the guy jizzed on her hair, the airline isn't paid to baby-sit their passengers. Merely to fly the damn plane; everything else is kibble.

You don't see the families of 9/11 victims suing the airlines because 'they didn't police the plane'.

The bottom line : Sue the masturbator, not the airline. Also grow a goddamn spine you pathetic excuse for a female, only children and animals sit there and whine for attention, get off your rear and actually ASK for some damn help. Well, they do have the duty (or at least should) to protect their customers from assault on their airplanes, she paid good money for flight and service, they didn't provide.

what assault?, she got spunked thats all. And she did get service beyond whats required............

Lesson here is never to sleep on a flight to LA

Originally posted by grey fox
Well....this is rather silly.

Why sue the airline? It isn't the Airlines fault the guy jizzed on her hair, the airline isn't paid to baby-sit their passengers. Merely to fly the damn plane; everything else is kibble.

You don't see the families of 9/11 victims suing the airlines because 'they didn't police the plane'.

The bottom line : Sue the masturbator, not the airline. Also grow a goddamn spine you pathetic excuse for a female, only children and animals sit there and whine for attention, get off your rear and actually ASK for some damn help.
The flight attendants could have done something, they saw him move and should have made him go back to his seat. She tried to get help, read the article.

Originally posted by anaconda
what assault?, she got spunked thats all. And she did get service beyond whats required............

Lesson here is never to sleep on a flight to LA Getting spunked on is assault.

And how did she get service beyond what is required?

nah its just a badly missplased load

well she didnt expect to get a cum fiesta, now thats service beyond

Originally posted by anaconda
nah its just a badly missplased load

well she didnt expect to get a cum fiesta, now thats service beyond Yeah, sure, assault.

A-are you trying to be funny? Cause I am pretty sure that she got that bukkake is the reason she is sueing.

Originally posted by anaconda
what assault?, she got spunked thats all. And she did get service beyond whats required............

Lesson here is never to sleep on a flight to LA
Get out, troll. petpet

see service beyond, not everyday one get that on a flight

Originally posted by anaconda
see service beyond, not everyday one get that on a flight


A-are you trying to be funny? Cause I am pretty sure that she got that bukkake is the reason she is sueing.

too bad it wasnt caught on camara, someone could of started their own tv series called, 'spunk'd'

Originally posted by Sanctuary
The flight attendants could have done something, they saw him move and should have made him go back to his seat. She tried to get help, read the article.

I read the damn article. However human beings can make errors. Not noticing someone has moved out of a possible 100+ passengers is something that can be allowed to slide IMO.

Once again, sue the guy who did it. Not the airline.

Originally posted by grey fox
I read the damn article. However human beings can make errors. Not noticing someone has moved out of a possible 100+ passengers is something that can be allowed to slide IMO.

Once again, sue the guy who did it. Not the airline. You'd have a point if the flight attendants hadn't admitted that they noticed the guy take place next to her and not on his assigned seat. They did something wrong, and should be accountable for it. But a freaking 200 000 is just ridiculous. She didn't suffer damages to such a magnitude.

indeed

People saying she should sue the guy who did it are in a misinformed position about law.

That man committed a CRIMINAL offence, he is to be dealt with through the criminal courts. It is not her place to sue for such an offence.

But the airline, in neglecting a duty of care, committed a CIVIL offence. It IS appropriate to sue them for such a wrong. A judge can decide if the amount is appropriate.

Saying she should sue the guy is, frankly, very silly indeed. Also, making out the airline did not have such a duty of care... is even more silly. It is absolutely their business to take reasonable precautions to ensure that their passengers are not sexually assaulted- especially so openly.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
People saying she should sue the guy who did it are in a misinformed position abouw law.

That man committed a CRIMINAL offence, he is to be dealt with through the criminal courts. It is not her place to sue for such an offence.

Are you sure about that? I was under the impression she could sue in civil court for some sort of reparations in such a case.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
But the airline, in neglecting a duty of care, committed a CIVIL offence. It IS appropriate to sue them for such a wrong. A judge can decide if the amount is appropriate.

Saying she should sue the guy is, frankly, very silly indeed. Also, making out the airline did not have such a duty of care... is even more silly. It is absolutely their business to take reasonable precautions to ensure that their passengers are not sexually assaulted- especially so openly.

Agreed. I just personally think 200 000 isn't appropriate.

I am fairly sure it is very much not the way it works to sue for criminal offences- certainly not whilst the criminal proceedings are still going.

As for the amount- maybe excessive. But maybe not. She may require counselling, for which the airline should foot the bill.

How much money would it take for you to let a total stranger jiz on you? Yeah, $200,000.00 is fair.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
I am fairly sure it is very much not the way it works to sue for criminal offences- certainly not whilst the criminal proceedings are still going.

As for the amount- maybe excessive. But maybe not. She may require counselling, for which the airline should foot the bill. Okay, well, I am not sure about it. Probably also depends on the country.

It should be evaluated properly, I just think that at least in the US there are some very excessive claims in lawsuits. A 200 000 just straight away just seems idiotic to me personally, though I do have a different understanding of what people should and shouldn't want than most.

i believe they have to wait for the criminal proceedings to conclude before they can file a civil suit. at least that was the case when ron goldman's family sued oj simpson

Originally posted by =Tired Hiker=
How much money would it take for you to let a total stranger jiz on you? Yeah, $200,000.00 is fair. You'd do it for a 1000.

The thing just is that I don't think that the airline is solely responsible for what happened.

Simpson was sued for wrongful death, which is a funny little legal oddity.

It is generally not possible to sue someone for a charge they have faced criminally- because that would not actually be a civil crime, it would be a criminal one.

Civil Law does vary a lot by State though.

Originally posted by Bardock42
You'd do it for a 1000.

The thing just is that I don't think that the airline is solely responsible for what happened.

I agree that the airline should not be soley responsibe. And I'd probably do it for 10 thousand.

Originally posted by =Tired Hiker=
I agree that the airline should not be soley responsibe. And I'd probably do it for 10 thousand.

You want to be spaffed on ?

Originally posted by grey fox
I read the damn article. However human beings can make errors. Not noticing someone has moved out of a possible 100+ passengers is something that can be allowed to slide IMO.

Once again, sue the guy who did it. Not the airline.
American Airlines employees told police they witnessed the man move from his assigned seat into the row where the woman was sleeping.

Originally posted by =Tired Hiker=
How much money would it take for you to let a total stranger jiz on you? Yeah, $200,000.00 is fair.
Now we're talking Jenna Jameson figures.

I do think it is very much possible to to take this case to civil court, as well, to sue the Amazing Seat Hopping Jizzer Man.

http://www.scselfservice.org/civ/general/plaintiff.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_procedure

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Rules_of_Civil_Procedure

Read up on all of that.



I found this story to be hilarious and I couldn't help but laugh out loud. I feel sorry for the lady, as that is very gross....but I can just picture that creepy guy looking at that lady with creepy eyes as he wacks away...the image is funny to me....and then the discovery of spoot in her hair and someone confirming it? LOL!!! SMELL!!! TASTE!!! TOUCH!!! Yup, must be jiz.

Frankly don't see anything in the links you gave.

Simple question- what civil wrong did he commit?

Originally posted by Ushgarak
Frankly don't see anything in the links you gave.

Simple question- what civil wrong did he commit? I don't know,maybe claims for mental damages or something?

Originally posted by Ushgarak
Simple question- what civil wrong did he commit?
I don't think throwing your man gravy on someone is very civil.

No, it isn't civil at all. Hence it being criminal.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
Frankly don't see anything in the links you gave.

Simple question- what civil wrong did he commit?

He inflicted harm on her in one form or multiple forms. That is what falls under general civil. That is very much open to interpretation as far as how much she can sue for.

Questions that I still want answered:

Can she sue before criminal case is complete? I didn't find an answer in that stuff.

Does it fall under California Civil law?

Can she also sue him for her counseling if she had to go?

Edit: Anytime "harm" is inflicited on another, you can sue. Emotional or physical. Emotional is harder to push, but in this case, it shouldn't be hard. My wife's siter's husand (borther in law, once removed) is a civil lawyer; I can ask him when I get off work to clear it up. What kinds of questions do you guys want me to ask him other than the ones I have propposed?

Come on, it was a long flight.

What was I supposed to do?

Originally posted by BackFire
Come on, it was a long flight.

What was I supposed to do?

How is it that I was absolutly sure that was what you were going to say?

Originally posted by Devil King
How is it that I was absolutly sure that was what you were going to say?

Its from "talking" me so much.









LOL! I just made fun of myself and laughed about it!

Originally posted by GCG
You want to be spaffed on ?

Not that I wake up every day wishing to get spunked on, but yeah, I'd do it for about ten grand. But it would have to land on my foot or something, not the face, and definitely not the mouth. The mouth would cost a mil.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Its from "talking" me so much.









LOL! I just made fun of myself and laughed about it!


what the hell would you have to do with it?

I think the airline was negligent in not making the passenger return to his assigned seat and therefore is partly responsible. If they made him return to his seat, it wouldnt have happened.
However, I think $200,000 sounds a bit high though. I wonder how they come up with these figures.

Originally posted by Devil King
what the hell would you have to do with it? I think he's stoned.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Its from "talking" me so much.









LOL! I just made fun of myself and laughed about it! Don't get it.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Don't get it.

It was supposed to say "It's from "talking" TO me so much."

Originally posted by dadudemon
It was supposed to say "It's from "talking" TO me so much." Don't get it.

so.... she was hot?

Originally posted by Mairuzu
so.... she was hot?

Seriously, I was thinking the same thing. He would either have to have lost all his marbles, or slightly lost his marbles and she was really hot.

Originally posted by Devil King
How is it that I was absolutly sure that was what you were going to say?

I must be getting predictable at my old age.

What I meant to say is that I had to do it next to her, as there were no open seats next to small children.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Seriously, I was thinking the same thing. He would either have to have lost all his marbles, or slightly lost his marbles and she was really hot. She must have been ridiculously hot to make someone on an airplane go up to her and sit next to her... and just start peeping your peepers right then and there and not even bother to stop when she wakes up...

Its too bad that I can't wake up to a flight to find a woman staring at me masturbating

Originally posted by BackFire
I must be getting predictable at my old age.

What I meant to say is that I had to do it next to her, as there were no open seats next to small children.

Now that . . . . I did not expect.

Originally posted by BackFire
Come on, it was a long flight.

What was I supposed to do?

You should of blown your load all over her face.

What were you thinking?

She turned away when I tried.

Points for trying.

Two questions: Why the hell in the hair? Didn't the passengers on the other rows notice while it was in procedure?

Originally posted by Spidervlad
Didn't the passengers on the other rows notice while it was in procedure?

They were to busy laughing.

I think they liked watching.

If you witnessed it, what would you have done?

Originally posted by Mairuzu
If you witnessed it, what would you have done? I like to assume that I would have contacted the stewardesses and confronted the guy. But as a matter of fact I do get kinda stunned in such situations.

i would have called a flight attendant...as discreetly as possibly to avoid confronting an obvious lunatic. after all...not my job.

Originally posted by Mairuzu
If you witnessed it, what would you have done?

I would have probably nudged the person next to me and said, "Hey, is it me, or does it look like that guy over there is masturbating?" Then we would have had a nice laugh about it, then I would have called the stewardess.

So . . . nudge, laugh, then call.

I would have joined in.

Originally posted by Mairuzu
If you witnessed it, what would you have done?

Helped my wife remove her boot from behind his broken teeth.

Originally posted by =Tired Hiker=
This is exactly why there needs to be an adult exclusive airline where the in flight movies are always porn and masturbation is encouraged.


It would be all men...,thats pretty gay.

Originally posted by Mairuzu
If you witnessed it, what would you have done?

Started jacking off on the guy.

Originally posted by BackFire
Started jacking off on the guy.

That was a better answer then the first one.

Reminds me of Mallrats.

Great movie.

Originally posted by ragesRemorse
It would be all men...,thats pretty gay.

Um . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . okay, you're right.

"DALLAS - A 21-year-old Harris County woman filed a $200,000 lawsuit against American Airlines alleging employees on a flight to Los Angeles from Dallas/Fort Worth Airport failed to protect her while she slept from another passenger who masturbated to her and ejaculated in her hair..."

I hope her name isn't Mary.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Helped my wife remove her boot from behind his broken teeth.

Originally posted by BackFire
Started jacking off on the guy. in his hair.. or face... try aiming for the ear maybe?

For her have a chance at a law suit she would have to prove emotional or physical damages to really get any money. I believe any jury would laugh it out of court. She got a bit embarrassed that is about it.

It would be more of a criminal act. I don't understant how it could be considered assault. That is more verbal intent to do harm. It could go under battery, but still......lol......probably assault and battery...

I really doubt it would go that way



http://www.wisegeek.com/what-are-the-differences-between-assault-and-battery.htm

Originally posted by Deja~vu
For her have a chance at a law suit she would have to prove emotional or physical damages to really get any money. I believe any jury would laugh it out of court. She got a bit embarrassed that is about it.

It would be more of a criminal act. I don't understant how it could be considered assult. That is more verbal intent to do harm. It could go under battery, but still......lol

I really doubt it would go that way

forcibly imposing your fluids on someone intentionally, particularly semen, is certainly sexual assault and will not be laughed out of court. glad to know you would fair well in a sexual assault scenario. most people however would likely not.

You can even throw a bucket of water and be charged with assault. Prolly the water from a water pistol would qualify assault as well.

I think one might sue mother nature for the rain

I changed my post.

Possible criminal - yes
Civil - I don't really think so....but if so, then lucky her.

Originally posted by =Tired Hiker=
Um . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . okay, you're right.

actually, i just remembered hooters Air. So...,looks like im wrong again

The difference between assault and battery
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(thing) by Loon (2.7 wk) (print) ? 1 C! I like it! Mon Nov 27 2000 at 7:50:19


Unknown to most people, there is a very strong distinction between "assault" and "battery" in tort law.

For the tort of assault, the victim need only have a reasonable belief that there is a threat of injury. Assault is present when any word or action intends to make another person fearful of immediate physical harm. No physical contact is necessary for assault.

Battery, on the other hand, is the unprivileged, intentional touching of another. No injuries need be inflicted. If someone playfully hugs you and you get hurt, there is battery. If, however, you give permission to the other party to hit you, and you get injured, you cannot claim battery.

Also, as assault can exist without battery, battery can exist without assault. Most times, however, these two torts are intertwined and thus these cases are tried accordingly.

Now, hopefully people won't be off and running to the courts to claim assault or battery on other people, as most courts don't hear a claim unless there actually is injury on the plaintiff's part

he should have the book thrown at him and be charged with sexual assault.

He could be. But you cannot sue in Criminal Court.

Well which court would you take sexual assault too?

well the point is that she (or the court) can press charges, but not sue for a criminal offense

Originally posted by Shelbert Lemon
Well which court would you take sexual assault too? A law suit would be heard in a Civil Court. It is a Tort.

To prosecute him criminally would go to Criminal court. He would get a sentencing there.

If he is criminally charged then she may want to try to sue him civilly, but she probably can't prove much damage. No damages. No awards.

Originally posted by Deja~vu

If he is criminally charged then she may want to try to sue him civilly, but she probably can't prove much damage. No damages. No awards.

psychological trauma?

lets say she cant function in her day to day life (make money) she could probably turn around and sue him

just an example. im sure there are other avenues

Originally posted by Schecter
psychological trauma?

lets say she cant function in her day to day life (make money) she could probably turn around and sue him

just an example. im sure there are other avenues In this case, yes. She must have medical or psychological proof for this though.

and we all know how difficult it is to convince a therapist that you're not stable and need pills. (that was sarcasm my dear)

Well, she better put on her acting suit, which I'm sure she will or try too.

i dont think she would have to act. then again who knows but her. some women are tough as nails and have gone through brutal sexual assault just to pick right back up and move on. some women however would allow this incident to consume their lives. so i guess all we can do is speculate.

Another thing she would have to consider is if he is prosecuted and found guilty and sentenced to prison, how is she going to collect any money out of him if she sues him and if she wins? Well, unless he has money, or waits until he gets out. But this isn't that serious a case anyway.

The Prosecutor will up the charges, as they always do, and offer him a plea bargain and he will probably take it.

Originally posted by Schecter
some women are tough as nails and have gone through brutal sexual assault just to pick right back up and move on

Only the ones who are so ****ed up in the head that they didn't allow it to consume them because they secretly wanted it to happen.

Originally posted by Devil King
Only the ones who are so ****ed up in the head that they didn't allow it to consume them because they secretly wanted it to happen.

that is a fallacy which boggled my mind so hard that semen actually dripped out of my penis

It was a hard landing as well.

I would hardly call this event traumatic.

Originally posted by Schecter
that is a fallacy which boggled my mind so hard that semen actually dripped out of my penis

That's it, I'm suing KMC for $200,000.

Originally posted by Devil King
That's it, I'm suing KMC for $200,000. That hurt my eyes as well! Group Law Suit!

class action

well im going to file a counter-suit for nonconsensual stimulation. quite frankly i feel traumatized and i want 3 million.

Originally posted by Schecter
well im going to file a counter-suit for nonconsensual stimulation. quite frankly i feel traumatized and i want 3 million.

Now, THAT would be one class action.

indeed



now please....do it again

Where's RAZ?

Well, the whole story is exactly as Bardock said; so vauge that it's resulted in 6 pages of speculation and conjecture.

This chick was asleep and the flight crew saw the guy move, so she's suing the airline for neglecting their responsabilities. But, I've been on dozens and dozens of flights, and the flight attendants are constantly walking back and forth, almost to the point of distraction. They would have seen him acting unusually if he'd been doing it the whole time. So, that means the guy had to have started jerking off while the crew were strapped in for landing, which this chick claims was when she woke up because of the pilot's announcement. And right before the plane lands, the attendants walk up and down the aisle making sure seatbacks and tray tables are up. So, this implies the guy started jerking off and finished after she was awake and the crew was strapped in. How is the flight crew responsible for her sitting there and allowing it to happen? And if she knew he was jerking off on her, then why would she need to ask another passenger to confirm what was in her hair?

she probably didnt realise he had finished....oh her. not exactly an instinctual reaction you know...checking your hair when you wake up and see some random guy jerking off

now, why hasnt anyone brought up miggs from silence of the lambs yet?

i can smell your ****

For a really good witness while she screams LAWSUIT!

The way people are today, she probably brought the stuff with her and did it to herself. The guy's probably the real victim...who knows.

yes, lets all automatically blame the victim. have we as a society really become this damn cynical?

Originally posted by Schecter
she probably didnt realise he had finished....oh her. not exactly an instinctual reaction you know...checking your hair when you wake up and see some random guy jerking off

now, why hasnt anyone brought up miggs from silence of the lambs yet?

i can smell your ****

But, I'm saying that the chick said that she woke up when the pilot announced they were going to land. This is when the flight attendants make preparations like checking tray tables and then they go and strap themselves in. So, they guy had to start, as well as finish, jerking off on her after she was awake. And if she was awake, there's no need to ask another passenger what was in her hair. If he'd been doing something unusual before the pilots announcement, the flight attendants would have seen somehing. If that's what happened then I can certainly understand the lawsuit, but as it's explained in teh first post, it doesn't add up.

Originally posted by Mairuzu
If you witnessed it, what would you have done? If the woman had been a sister, mother, cousin, friend, etc...I'd have done something regrettable to the man. And I wouldn't have regretted it either.

And if I ever find out who schecter is, I'll keep an eye out for my soonest chance to knock the perverted humor out of him.

Originally posted by Deja~vu
For a really good witness while she screams LAWSUIT!

The way people are today, she probably brought the stuff with her and did it to herself. The guy's probably the real victim...who knows. I've seen cases where the man is actually the victim. The evidence in this case makes it quite obvious the man was stepping over the line.

Besides, she isn't making it very public or we'd all know more. And 200,000 dollars isn't much to file a lawsuit for. Lawsuits are almost always reduced as a compromise between the prosecution and the defense...so the lawyer behind the lawsuits always demands a lot more. This one will probably wind up as $15,000 or some ridiculously low number like that. Some lawyer (probably a state prosecuter) came up with that charge. She didn't wake up to that situation and think to herself, "now I'm gonna tell the police so I can get $200,000." She was a dignified woman minding her own business, and she was in an awful and embarrassing situation. She handled it as well as can be expected under the shocking circumstances.

Originally posted by Deja~vu
I would hardly call this event traumatic.
This woman might though.

Originally posted by Schecter
yes, lets all automatically blame the victim. have we as a society really become this damn cynical? I wish I would of thought of the idea first....damn.

Originally posted by Schecter
yes, lets all automatically blame the victim. have we as a society really become this damn cynical? Well, I wouldn't blame her for being attacked, I just find everyone that sues for compensation in the region of 200 000 dollars peculiar unless they have suffered damages around or beyond death.

so does this guy qualify for the mile high club?

Originally posted by Devil King
But, I'm saying that the chick said that she woke up when the pilot announced they were going to land. This is when the flight attendants make preparations like checking tray tables and then they go and strap themselves in. So, they guy had to start, as well as finish, jerking off on her after she was awake. And if she was awake, there's no need to ask another passenger what was in her hair. If he'd been doing something unusual before the pilots announcement, the flight attendants would have seen somehing. If that's what happened then I can certainly understand the lawsuit, but as it's explained in teh first post, it doesn't add up.

Most Likely Scenario.

A wink rendezvous and Friendly Handshake

The headflicking is an involuntary reflex action To protect the make up.

The killjoy nosy woman in the seat ahead is the key component

The guy and the chick are like

The crusader is like AHA!! foils chicks attempt to hide the evidence behind her head and verifies the evidence, hollers for flight attendants, says Omg a few times, wags finger etc.

By now Romeo and Juliet are embarrased to death. People stare, take statements, Reporters take some polaroids etc.
Juliet sues airline to salvage street cred.

Originally posted by Quark_666
I've seen cases where the man is actually the victim. The evidence in this case makes it quite obvious the man was stepping over the line.

Besides, she isn't making it very public or we'd all know more. And 200,000 dollars isn't much to file a lawsuit for. Lawsuits are almost always reduced as a compromise between the prosecution and the defense...so the lawyer behind the lawsuits always demands a lot more. This one will probably wind up as $15,000 or some ridiculously low number like that. Some lawyer (probably a state prosecuter) came up with that charge. She didn't wake up to that situation and think to herself, "now I'm gonna tell the police so I can get $200,000." She was a dignified woman minding her own business, and she was in an awful and embarrassing situation. She handled it as well as can be expected under the shocking circumstances. Law suits generally run about 50K in atty and court fees. She should quit while she's ahead if she is only going to get 15K. She'll be hollering bloody murder for that 200K...

I'm sure her lawyer will make sure it gets all the publicity it needs to insure it. That way his 1/3 of pie will be nice and juicy.

This has nothing to do with whether the man gets procecuted or not. that's a different story and a different court all together.

so was the guy masturbating standing up? or was he sitting down and aimed high?

Lol I can't even get away with listening to my headphones while a plane is landing, and this guy masturbates totally undetected until he shoots in her hair! WTF kind of crap is that? Usually the Flight Attendants are on you asap! "Lean your seat foward" "Buckle your seat belt" "Sir put away your penis" Apparently the last one isn't in their repertoire.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Well, I wouldn't blame her for being attacked, I just find everyone that sues for compensation in the region of 200 000 dollars peculiar unless they have suffered damages around or beyond death. First off let's make sure we all realize that the airlines made a mistake here. They are usually much stricter about this kind of thing. Or that's what I gather from this post:Originally posted by Pezmerga
Lol I can't even get away with listening to my headphones while a plane is landing, and this guy masturbates totally undetected until he shoots in her hair! WTF kind of crap is that? Usually the Flight Attendants are on you asap! "Lean your seat foward" "Buckle your seat belt" "Sir put away your penis" Apparently the last one isn't in their repertoire. Do you think it's fair that this particular magnitude of carelessness on the part of the airlines should be an extremely profitable fight for the airlines? I'd say to establish a strict atmosphere on such behavior, a fair penalty would just pay off the raw expenses of a flight...no extra profits. That is fair for the airlines and it keeps them ready to crack down on passengers.

So what is the net result for each flight? 10 thousand? 20 thousand? Because whatever it is, that's what I would penalize...and you can bet it's more than the financial "damages" received by the lady. As it should be.

And as you already know, it's my opinion that some lawyer said $200,000 to help negotiate a more reasonable fund with the defense.
Originally posted by Quark_666
200,000 dollars isn't much to file a lawsuit for. Lawsuits are almost always reduced as a compromise between the prosecution and the defense...so the lawyer behind the lawsuits always demands a lot more. This one will probably wind up as $15,000 or some ridiculously low number like that.

As for the assailant himself, I'd bet anything ushgarak is absolutely right...it's counted as a criminal offense and the state is going to handle it. Which state I don't know. But the man was no doubt arrested in California so maybe it'll be California.

Originally posted by Quark_666
You and a half dozen others on this thread have obviously never heard of fingers. Idiot.

I just read the title and last post, but it's just one of those things you can't do anything about if it isn't clearly already a part of the law.. maybe they could consider what is happening..

Originally posted by Quark_666
You and a half dozen others on this thread have obviously never heard of fingers. Idiot. mhmm my bad

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
The guy was flying to Los Angeles....



...why am I not surprise? good one

Originally posted by Quark_666
First off let's make sure we all realize that the airlines made a mistake here. They are usually much stricter about this kind of thing. Or that's what I gather from this posto you think it's fair that this particular magnitude of carelessness on the part of the airlines should be an extremely profitable fight for the airlines? I'd say to establish a strict atmosphere on such behavior, a fair penalty would just pay off the raw expenses of a flight...no extra profits. That is fair for the airlines and it keeps them ready to crack down on passengers.

So what is the net result for each flight? 10 thousand? 20 thousand? Because whatever it is, that's what I would penalize...and you can bet it's more than the financial "damages" received by the lady. As it should be.

And as you already know, it's my opinion that some lawyer said $200,000 to help negotiate a more reasonable fund with the defense.


As for the assailant himself, I'd bet anything ushgarak is absolutely right...it's counted as a criminal offense and the state is going to handle it. Which state I don't know. But the man was no doubt arrested in California so maybe it'll be California.

I agree with you on this one, I just think it's funny that he wasn't noticed before it actually happened....Actually i can see this leading to people not being able to move seats at all (or at least without a good reason and constant watch if you look like a guy who will masterbate all over someone lol) or something to that nature...Which is dumb.

Originally posted by Pezmerga
I agree with you on this one, I just think it's funny that he wasn't noticed before it actually happened....Actually i can see this leading to people not being able to move seats at all (or at least without a good reason and constant watch if you look like a guy who will masterbate all over someone lol) or something to that nature...Which is dumb.

The guy was observed changing his seat. Once the doors are closed, they typically don't have any issues with people changing seats. Perhaps a guy prefers the ailse to the middle seat he has, prefers to sit next to someone he knows, whatever. (...which does not include masturbating on someone) So if this is a flight from L.A. to Dallas, it's likely around 2 to 3 hours. The fight attendants would have served "light refreshments" and then closer to Dallas they would have come around and picked up the trash as well as made rounds right before the plane landed to check on tray tables and seatbacks as well as picking up any trash that remained. So, the guy had to have been behaving pretty normally for most of the flight, which means that he would have had to have begun behaving abnormally after the crew was strapped in for landing, which would have been after this chick claims she woke up; when the pilot made his announcement. I'm not saying she isn't a victim, or it's her fault. But I am saying it isn't the fault of the flight crew, which means it isn't the fault of the airline.

Originally posted by Devil King
The guy was observed changing his seat. Once the doors are closed, they typically don't have any issues with people changing seats. Perhaps a guy prefers the ailse to the middle seat he has, prefers to sit next to someone he knows, whatever. (...which does not include masturbating on someone) So if this is a flight from L.A. to Dallas, it's likely around 2 to 3 hours. The fight attendants would have served "light refreshments" and then closer to Dallas they would have come around and picked up the trash as well as made rounds right before the plane landed to check on tray tables and seatbacks as well as picking up any trash that remained. So, the guy had to have been behaving pretty normally for most of the flight, which means that he would have had to have begun behaving abnormally after the crew was strapped in for landing, which would have been after this chick claims she woke up; when the pilot made his announcement. I'm not saying she isn't a victim, or it's her fault. But I am saying it isn't the fault of the flight crew, which means it isn't the fault of the airline.

It is the airline's responsibilty to keep us safe. He could have gave her a disease of some sort, so that isn't being kept safe. Now they could technically not be liable for something of that nature, but even if you could prove it isn't their fault it really is pointless. The Airline company will pay her compensation to save face, and that would be the smartest thing to do. We all know she will not end up with 200 grand. I don't know if it is technically fair, but I do know the woman didn't do anything wrong...and it's not like we as a society never sue.

Originally posted by Pezmerga
It is the airline's responsibilty to keep us safe. He could have gave her a disease of some sort, so that isn't being kept safe. Now they could technically not be liable for something of that nature, but even if you could prove it isn't their fault it really is pointless. The Airline company will pay her compensation to save face, and that would be the smartest thing to do. We all know she will not end up with 200 grand. I don't know if it is technically fair, but I do know the woman didn't do anything wrong...and it's not like we as a society never sue.

Your logic is flawed. There is no way the airline should have to prevent their passengers from getting sick. Sure they shouldn't have an infected SARs passenger...but they can't protect their passengers from getting diseases from other passengers because that would require an invasion of a very private manner.

The airline should not be sued...the splooger should.

IF the airline personnel did not respond immediately to her cries/pleas for help, then yes, they should pay up in some way. Do we know if they failed on their response time or not?

Originally posted by dadudemon
Your logic is flawed. There is no way the airline should have to prevent their passengers from getting sick. Sure they shouldn't have an infected SARs passenger...but they can't protect their passengers from getting diseases from other passengers because that would require an invasion of a very private manner.

The airline should not be sued...the splooger should.

IF the airline personnel did not respond immediately to her cries/pleas for help, then yes, they should pay up in some way. Do we know if they failed on their response time or not? Well it all amounts to the same thing. If they don't do anything about it the loose business for sure. Be it the government or capitalism, they have to protect their passengers somehow.

But no where in the story does it say that they didn't protect her. She said nothing and they did nothing. Besides, no one on the flight crew saw him doing anything wrong; not even when they saw him change seats.

Hmm, I was just thinking...this pervert redefined the saying "bate and switch".

Originally posted by dadudemon
Your logic is flawed. There is no way the airline should have to prevent their passengers from getting sick. Sure they shouldn't have an infected SARs passenger...but they can't protect their passengers from getting diseases from other passengers because that would require an invasion of a very private manner.

The airline should not be sued...the splooger should.

IF the airline personnel did not respond immediately to her cries/pleas for help, then yes, they should pay up in some way. Do we know if they failed on their response time or not?

I didn't mean they should prevent them from catching something that is unavoidable, but being exposed to sperm is avoidable...the same with being exposed to asbestos or something. Now I know it is a grey area, the flight attendants can't just physically stop the guy and I don't expect them to put themselves in danger, but the airline has to ensure that this doesn't happen somehow. If not for legal reasons than at least for good business practice. It would be foolish for them to just say "not our fault" and do nothing.

And I do agree that the splooger is the real person that should be sued, but it's not like he would be able to pay it off, so what's the point? She is guaranteed money from an airline.It's not right, but it's the way the world works. Surprise!

In case anybody wants to hear it again, the word "sued" implies that a civilian is responsible for the legal action, and in that case money is usually the sole issue in question. The word we're all struggling to find is "prosecuted".

I did something like this during one of my own plane trips, only I did it to a pornstar and she didn't even notice ):

Lol, I think that's the first one I laughed at so far!

It may have been perverted, but it isn't worth the money she is screaming for.

Next time I fly...I'll make sure to make it worth my day.

I'm waiting for the attendants to stand at the front of the plane and explain how to use the full body condom that will fall out of the ceiling in teh case of a pervert emergency.

Originally posted by Devil King
I'm waiting for the attendants to stand at the front of the plane and explain how to use the full body condom that will fall out of the ceiling in teh case of a pervert emergency. Like you said.."Why did she involve someone else to confirm it." To me that is suspicious..

It seems you cannot do anything about a past crime. People are just interested in the crimes. You can definitely sue people for the beginning of crimes still thinking that you did not really lose anything yet.

Originally posted by Deja~vu
It may have been perverted, but it isn't worth the money she is screaming for. Good point. Why not just hire a hitman?

well if they saw him change seat they should have taken action, if they didnt see him doing anyting wrong but changing seats at least they saw that

I almost feel as though no one on site even cared. I defense against this. I usually just stay home now and stay away from ppl as much as possible. I wonder if she stimulated him. Probably from the sound of it she had to have. I like never see anyone anymore. I just talk online..

Originally posted by anaconda
well if they saw him change seat they should have taken action, if they didnt see him doing anyting wrong but changing seats at least they saw that Though there is nothing wrong with changing seats. People do it all the time. When I do, I ask permission first though.

I just like to sit by the window. I'm like a little puppy

Now any normal woman would have woken up and said something like what the hell are you doing, man, get the **** away from me, and punch him in the face. It's really simple. All done and over.

Originally posted by Deja~vu
Now any normal woman would have woken up and said something like what the hell are you doing, man, get the **** away from me, and punch him in the face. It's really simple. All done and over.

QFT.