Wolverine vs Batman (straight fight)

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Bentley
In:

1. Hand to hand (no claws, ko is a win).
2. Standard Equipment.

Bloodlust is on. Batman gets to watch one hour worth of Wolverine fighting.

Who is horribly stomped?

Phantom Zone
I kill you!!!! durhulk

Combat_Guru
I want to say Batman so bad, but Wolverine has the healing factor.

Kid Kurdy
Originally posted by Bentley
Who is horribly stomped?
Nobody.

But Wolverine should win more often than not.

Wolverine 8/10.

golem370
Wolverine is a master of every fighting style on earth and he has more experience as far there comic book ages are concerned he has train and fought with the Avengers X-Men FF Alpha Flight and in the Weapon X groups hightened strength agility stamina and sense would make him odd on winner

Mr. Slippyfist
Did you remove the massive powerup Anti-Monitor gave to Batman's leg?

Bentley
The Batkick? I couldn't remove that if I tried!

janus77
they stand, facing each other, well almost. Wolverine glaring with animalistic rage at Batman's chest insignia, Batman looking down at the overly hairy and odd smelling 'mutant' in front of him.

Wolverine steps back, assumes a Karate stance *snnkt* the claws come out.

Batman looks on, dispassionately assessing the situation.

*Kabaaaaaaaaaam*

"BatKick sukka, heal from that!"


confused



oh and whoever said either of them were straight, Wolverine enjoys having his arse cupped by Colossus too much and Batman, well ...

hulkcpbifiussjf
wolverine 8/10

Sado22
just h2h part, i'm giving it to Batman. 8/10.
the next part, i'm also giving it to Batman. 6/10.

~Sado

Mindset
Originally posted by Sado22
just h2h part, i'm giving it to Batman. 8/10.
the next part, i'm also giving it to Batman. 6/10.

~Sado

Why give it to Batman, Wolverine has about double or more years of experience, adamantium bones, and a healing factor.

psycho gundam
batman can't k.o. wolverine period.

Crunch n Munch
Originally posted by psycho gundam
batman can't k.o. wolverine period. He don't have to. He can use pressure points like DareDevil has done.

Kid Kurdy
Originally posted by Crunch n Munch
He don't have to. He can use pressure points like DareDevil has done.
Absolutely. And it could work. But it also could mean one arm less for Batman.

ScarletSpeed
Wolverine can't use his claws remember so Bats would keep all his limbs. even still i would have to give it to Wolvie just for his Adamantium boned and Healing factor.

Bentley
I think that someone should bring the super human speed that people attach to Wolverine in every Spider-man vs Wolverine thread.

Battlehammer
1) pressure points don't work on wolverine

2) comparable skill levels

3) wolverine more experienced

4) Wolverine physically superior

5) Only one of the combatants bones can be broken

6) Wolverine really can not be put down for the most part by batman in such a scenerio

7) Wolverine can crush batmans skull in

h1a8
Batman has the batkick, remember that.

Sado22
true about the adamantium bones. but batman has taken blows by superman and lived to talk about it. wolveirne has experience but bats is the better fighter. experience aint everything. bats has technique, speed and more focus.

(let me guess: bad writing right?)

Mindset
Originally posted by Sado22
true about the adamantium bones. but batman has taken blows by superman and lived to talk about it. wolveirne has experience but bats is the better fighter. experience aint everything. bats has technique, speed and more focus.

(let me guess: bad writing right?)

And Wolverine has taken blows from Hulk to the head and not been knocked out. There's no basis for saying Batman is the better fighter, if anything they are even, but Logan has twice as much experience fighting in all types of combat situations. Batman is also not faster than Logan.

golem370
A real punch from Superman would turn Batman to dust

Sado22
you're right, but i was referring to the whole thing about batman being at a real disadvantage against logan. he's taken on the likes of croc and lived and even beaten it. 'twas all i'm saying.
and then there is the bit where DD put logan down with a throat chop. so why not, eh?

~Sado

Battlehammer
Originally posted by Sado22
true about the adamantium bones. but batman has taken blows by superman and lived to talk about it. wolveirne has experience but bats is the better fighter. experience aint everything. bats has technique, speed and more focus.

(let me guess: bad writing right?)

sorry, but that the worst arguement ever. If superman even tapped batman he his organs would be destroyed.

Your opinion that batmans a better fighter which I dont agree.

speed? Lol Logan has meta human levels of speed.

techingue and focus? Thats your opinion and not a fact. Logan has shown to have both of theses in spades.


Not even sure what the last part of your posts is refferring to?

also h2h match between the two goes to wolverine ever time. Batman does not have the power nor strength to put down wolverine let a lone for a majority.

Battlehammer
Originally posted by Sado22

and then there is the bit where DD put logan down with a throat chop. so why not, eh?

~Sado
Which was is pis.

I proven to be pis.

so that not a feasable way for batman to win.

also it was a jab not a chop.

Sado22
hey we all are entitled to an opinion, aint it?
i actually do agree that bats surviving punches for berserk supes is stupid or that when supes is angry he fights like a girl cuz DAMN for a guy who can move planets the guy can't rip bat's head off his shoulders with a punch! but in the canon of DC that remains.

technique and focus, i say that cuz logan is more prone to rage and rashness than batman. bats can use that to his advantage. and lets not forget that bats was able to last in a fight against karate kid who was the better fighter (pis, maybe, but its still a fact just like bats surviving superman's hissy fit is despite everything a fact).

Battlehammer
Originally posted by Sado22


technique and focus, i say that cuz logan is more prone to rage and rashness than batman. bats can use that to his advantage. and lets not forget that bats was able to last in a fight against karate kid who was the better fighter (pis, maybe, but its still a fact just like bats surviving superman's hissy fit is despite everything a fact).
Mean nothing. Logan animal side is part of his powers. If anything his ability to keep it in check vast majority of the time proves his focus and tech at least rivals that of batman.

He also not prone to berserker rages nor rashness and has not been for a very long time.

karate kid arguement really does not help your cases. AT the time in which batman was able to do this, so could any top tier MA fighter. Karate kid was extremely weaken and far less powerful then he ever been. Batman did not fight the all powerful karate kid or anything closes to it.

Really matter little that he survived a punch from superman sinces we know superhuman does not kill and would never attempt to hit batman with a full power punch. We also know that Batmans body would be destroy from anything closes to a full powered attack from superman. Nor does it really protain to this match.

Phantom Zone
Originally posted by Battlehammer
1) pressure points don't work on wolverine



His HF is reduced now so they probably do. big grin

Sado22
but i like batman sad
on a more serious note, bats was attacked by beserker supes. it was all there in sacrifice (or was it the prequel to it) can't remember.

Combat_Guru
The most skilled hand to hand combat oriented version of Bruce Wayne is the one featured in Dark Knight Returns, "This isn't a mud hole, this is an operating room, and I'm the Surgeon."

NOTE: He was 49 years of age, and hadn't fought crime in ten years, I can only imagine him in his prime... messed

batdude123
It's completely unreasonable to say that Batman doesn't get a single win in a h2h encounter here. Especially when we look at his history and see the caliber of opponents he's beaten in combat... and consistently at that.

Ridiculous.

King_Mungi
Originally posted by batdude123
It's completely unreasonable to say that Batman doesn't get a single win in a h2h encounter here. Especially when we look at his history and see the caliber of opponents he's beaten in combat... and consistently at that.

Ridiculous.

Take your logic out of here mad

batdude123
sad

Combat_Guru
Originally posted by batdude123
It's completely unreasonable to say that Batman doesn't get a single win in a h2h encounter here. Especially when we look at his history and see the caliber of opponents he's beaten in combat... and consistently at that.

Ridiculous.


He was owning on people who were owning on people who were owning on people who were owning on Green Berets...

Plus Superman...

h1a8
wolverine can most certainly be koed.
If one take only high end showings as the absolute truth then that's different. But wolverine has been koed by forces much less than what Batman can dish out. So I'm giving batman the ability to ko Logan because of the suspension of disbelief.

With that said, here's how I break it down.

1. Speed is about even as both are able to dodge each other's attacks equally well. Personally I think batman can dodge Logan's attacks better than Logan can dodge batman's attacks. I call this comic intuition.

2. Strength is about equal. So this will definitely not play a role in the outcome of the fight.

3. Skills go to Batman. He's more skilled as a martial artist and fighter but Logan is not very far behind. Batman has had far better teachers and training than Logan has had. Plus Logan hasn't shown me the defensive skills to be considered an A grade martial artist such as batman is.

4. Experience goes to Logan. But Logan has none fighting someone on batman's level. Thus his experience advantage is non-existent here.

5. Logan has HV. This could be the deciding factor here.
For batman to win he must most certainly hit Logan with a pressure point strike rendering him unconscience or hit Logan with a combo that leads to a ko. This would be very hard to do but possible with batman's skills.

6. In second fight, it is batman's belt vs. Logan's claws. I believe Logan wins this (unless gas can ko him).

So I say 5/10 in first fight
and 6-7/10 for Logan in second fight (unless gas works)

Battlehammer
Originally posted by batdude123
It's completely unreasonable to say that Batman doesn't get a single win in a h2h encounter here. Especially when we look at his history and see the caliber of opponents he's beaten in combat... and consistently at that.

Ridiculous.

Oh no Batman can get a win and likly will, but it rediculous for people to even consider giving him the majority in h2h fight. Hell it rediclous to assume he could even get 4 wins in h2h fight.

Master-Borg
Originally posted by Battlehammer
Oh no Batman can get a win and likly will, but it rediculous for people to even consider giving him the majority in h2h fight. Hell it rediclous to assume he could even get 4 wins in h2h fight. Batman can coneivably win through pressure points andone-hit kill methods, rendering Logan's HF useless.

Battlehammer
actaully he can't. Proven to be ineffective. But I get to that later when I respond to H1 rubbish.

jinzin
Originally posted by Master-Borg
Batman can coneivably win through pressure points andone-hit kill methods, rendering Logan's HF useless.

right, cause y'know Cap's had such an easy time doing that.. so did Ogun for that matter..

Master-Borg
Originally posted by Battlehammer
actaully he can't. Proven to be ineffective. But I get to that later when I respond to H1 rubbish. it's actually proven EFFECTIVE...however you deemed it PIS, so I guess it's now ineffective

Master-Borg
Originally posted by jinzin
right, cause y'know Cap's had such an easy time doing that.. so did Ogun for that matter.. Cap doesnt know onehit kills...pressure points are not the same thing. I don't know about Ogun to comment.

Battlehammer
Originally posted by Master-Borg
it's actually proven EFFECTIVE...however you deemed it PIS, so I guess it's now ineffective

No it was PIS. A shot to the adams apple is not a pressure point. Not to mention the amount of times Logan has taken far worses to the same area with out slowing.

actaully it has been proven to be ineffective.

I deal with it later your nonsenses is a waste of my time.

jinzin
Originally posted by Master-Borg
Cap doesnt know onehit kills...pressure points are not the same thing. I don't know about Ogun to comment.

Ummm Cap has killed in one hit before.
Cap's skill rivals and is in all likelyhood superior to Daredevil's who can kill with a touch.

Ogun could kill a friggin WATER BUFFALO with a casual slap. Suffice it to say he knows them as well.

Do you just not remember all those dozens of times Wolverine took gas that was instantly dropping regular human beings, ate enough blowfish toxin to kill 20 men and picked his teeth while drinkin a beer, took enough punishment from sabes to kill dozens of normal men?

Wolverine's HF dictates that one hit kill pressure points are not going to do Batman much help. Doesn't help either given that Wolverine has a strict reach advantage here too.

Mr. Slippyfist
Doesn't Batman know one of the most deadly martial arts move known to mankind?
Along with like 3 other people?

Battlehammer
For his universes not sure how that helps him much requardless.

jinzin
Originally posted by Sado22
you're right, but i was referring to the whole thing about batman being at a real disadvantage against logan. he's taken on the likes of croc and lived and even beaten it. 'twas all i'm saying.
and then there is the bit where DD put logan down with a throat chop. so why not, eh?

~Sado

Why not?


Sure... why not....

( Wolverine has a sword plunged into his neck curtousy of The Gorgon; Not only is he still concious, but he's still talking, and as soon as the sword is pryed out he's on his feet at a full sprint to go back and fight Gorgon:
1. http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/7180/swordpryle5.jpg
2. http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/4007/swordpry2ji3.jpg

X-23 slices Wolverine's throat open; Not only does Logan not fall down, but then he proceeds to bat her aside and starts talking as soon as she hits the ground.
1. http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/9162/x236uo5.png


Wolverine and Sabretooth having already had a knock down drag out brawl start going at it again in the blackbird. They crash, the thing explodes, and they come out the inferno concious and continuing their ferocious fight; Wolverine's practically a walking skeleton but he's still whippin ass:
...
4. http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/1259/sabesinfernofight6qy3.jpg
5. http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/8025/sabesinfernofight6bxw5.jpg
6. http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/627/sabesinfernofight8qr3.jpg
7. http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/1491/sabesinfernofight9no1.jpg

Wolverine pwns Marrow in hand to hand; She cheap shots him in the throat so he just pwns her even worse:
1. http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/2474/000awr33ff0.jpg
2. http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/653/000axdzkct0.jpg
3. http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/9868/000ayxy6is9.jpg
4. http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/4190/000az46yee7.jpg
5. http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/4333/000b02h1bk5.jpg
6. http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/5690/000b1t85eu7.jpg
7. http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/9997/000b2xpauh1.jpg

Wolverine as Death uses his cunning to take Kitty down in a close quarters fight; Even after she jabs a blade through his throat:
1. http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/3374/kittypride1yp2.jpg
2. http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/9017/kittypride2rm2.jpg
3. http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/863/kittypride3po2.jpg
4. http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/4199/kittyprideagainzr3.jpg


Typhoid Mary
==========
Wolverine gets set on fire, has his throat slit, and then STILL beats Typhoid Mary, WHILE BLIND:
1. http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/2839/typhoidmary1su6.jpg
2. http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/6604/typhoidmary2au1.jpg
3. http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/8233/typhoidmary3xc0.jpg
4. http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/7533/typhoidmary4dk6.jpg )



Wolverine going down to a an Ennis throat chop in the same story he didn't go down to this:
Wolverine gets shot by Punisher with a rocket launcher, the rocket hits dead on; Logan's a skeleton from his torso to his thighs, he's still concious.
1. http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/6300/rocketnu2.jpg
2. http://img388.imageshack.us/img388/3319/rocket2zp5.jpg


yeah, that's suitable evidence. roll eyes (sarcastic)

Ha-Son
Originally posted by jinzin
Why not?


Sure... why not....

( Wolverine has a sword plunged into his neck curtousy of The Gorgon; Not only is he still concious, but he's still talking, and as soon as the sword is pryed out he's on his feet at a full sprint to go back and fight Gorgon:
1. http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/7180/swordpryle5.jpg
2. http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/4007/swordpry2ji3.jpg

X-23 slices Wolverine's throat open; Not only does Logan not fall down, but then he proceeds to bat her aside and starts talking as soon as she hits the ground.
1. http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/9162/x236uo5.png


Wolverine and Sabretooth having already had a knock down drag out brawl start going at it again in the blackbird. They crash, the thing explodes, and they come out the inferno concious and continuing their ferocious fight; Wolverine's practically a walking skeleton but he's still whippin ass:
...
4. http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/1259/sabesinfernofight6qy3.jpg
5. http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/8025/sabesinfernofight6bxw5.jpg
6. http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/627/sabesinfernofight8qr3.jpg
7. http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/1491/sabesinfernofight9no1.jpg

Wolverine pwns Marrow in hand to hand; She cheap shots him in the throat so he just pwns her even worse:
1. http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/2474/000awr33ff0.jpg
2. http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/653/000axdzkct0.jpg
3. http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/9868/000ayxy6is9.jpg
4. http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/4190/000az46yee7.jpg
5. http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/4333/000b02h1bk5.jpg
6. http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/5690/000b1t85eu7.jpg
7. http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/9997/000b2xpauh1.jpg

Wolverine as Death uses his cunning to take Kitty down in a close quarters fight; Even after she jabs a blade through his throat:
1. http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/3374/kittypride1yp2.jpg
2. http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/9017/kittypride2rm2.jpg
3. http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/863/kittypride3po2.jpg
4. http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/4199/kittyprideagainzr3.jpg


Typhoid Mary
==========
Wolverine gets set on fire, has his throat slit, and then STILL beats Typhoid Mary, WHILE BLIND:
1. http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/2839/typhoidmary1su6.jpg
2. http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/6604/typhoidmary2au1.jpg
3. http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/8233/typhoidmary3xc0.jpg
4. http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/7533/typhoidmary4dk6.jpg )



Wolverine going down to a an Ennis throat chop in the same story he didn't go down to this:
Wolverine gets shot by Punisher with a rocket launcher, the rocket hits dead on; Logan's a skeleton from his torso to his thighs, he's still concious.
1. http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/6300/rocketnu2.jpg
2. http://img388.imageshack.us/img388/3319/rocket2zp5.jpg


yeah, that's suitable evidence. roll eyes (sarcastic)
mmm

What's up with the new Wolverine Respect thread, Jinzin? uhuh

Master-Borg
Originally posted by jinzin

Wolverine gets shot by Punisher with a rocket launcher, the rocket hits dead on; Logan's a skeleton from his torso to his thighs, he's still concious.
1. http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/6300/rocketnu2.jpg
2. http://img388.imageshack.us/img388/3319/rocket2zp5.jpg


yeah, that's suitable evidence. roll eyes (sarcastic)

that's pretty bad PIS.

jinzin
Originally posted by Ha-Son
mmm

What's up with the new Wolverine Respect thread, Jinzin? uhuh

I've made my resolve, I'm going to discuss it in the respect thread a lil bit later.

bobbi
Just my 2 cents but it seems that wolverine really has way too many high and low showings for any real debates. All the pro-wolverine ppl take the higher ones all the anti-wolverine ppl take the lower ones. And they each call the other's evidence PIS or something.

Just a note though, shouldn't pressure points take a little more skill to perform than just random hits to around that area? Theres pressure points all over the body and in comics anyway they're never hit unless the person is aiming for them.

And just a question, does it actually say DD hit his adam's apple? cus there are pressure points in the neck and simply an inaccurate artist (what artist actually looks up pressure points?) can account for it looking like that. Not to mention comics tend to make up pressure points anywhere to do whatever they want so there actually could be an adam's apple pressure point.

But i don't mean to argue for any side. Wolverine is way too inconsistent. He probably has more crazy feats than the batkick but since he's a mutant people tend to take anything he does as an extension of that (not commenting on how valid this view or the opposite is).

While I believe he has more higher end feats than lower, the extend of the disregard for any laws of physics is a bit too much for a lot of readers, therefore they disregard these feats (like the batkick or black panthers armlock on surfer).
Wolverine fans disregard the lower end feats since they are relatively fewer and the fact that wolverine is continually in situations for around street levellers and for it to be interesting he HAS to be able to be taken down by something less than a planet busting explosion (and therefore they call it PIS). Both views are valid. To me that makes him very hard to debate cus I don't think either side is gonna give and a compromise doesnt' seem possible.

Just my 2 cents. You can carry on.

horrorwolf
Wolverine for the majority.

Deadlier attacks overall + Better Protection from Death/Incapacitation.

psycho gundam
well, we (mostly jinzin) already went over how logan can take a beating, I want to know what batman is going to do about the claws.

geshien
i used to really like wolverine. then i realized so does everyone and there mother. and some of those folks are comic book writers.

he's written horribly a good deal of the time and thus is one of the most inconsistent characters when it comes to feats.

wolverine can't pop the claws (which is a big deal even if wolverine can fight like all hell), and "standard equipment" you say? this is batman we're talkin about, right? have you seen what he pulls outta that belt? and what about his suit? isn't it reinforced? it should absorb most of the impact from logans' blows.

batman 7/10

Rorschach

Phantom Ghost
Nah Logan's actually faster. But I do believe Bruce could defend against Logan's attacks with a combo of skill and speed.



Logan is definitely stronger from what I've seen of the two. Although Bruce does hit very hard which makes up for the lack of strength.



I agree about Bruce being more skilled don't know about the rest.



Somewhat disagree. We've seen Logan defeat elite fighters similar to Batman in skill before. But at the same time I don't think Logan's ever fought anyone quite like Batman with his combined skill, intellect, and weaponry.



I agree that Bruce can win about 2 or 3 times this way hth but the majority of the time it wouldn't work in Bruce's favor since I've seen Logan stand up to lethal nerve strikes before and continue to fight. Matter of fact, in some cases it only made him angry. Overall, Logan's own martial arts skill combined with his healing factor and physical stats make him too tough for Bruce in a prolonged hth contest most of the time but certainly not every time.



Strongly disagree as Bruce does indeed have the weaponry to defeat Logan especially with his HF not as powerful as it was. However, it would be a close fight.

IMO:
1. Wolverine 7-8/10
2. Batman 5-6/10

Creshosk
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
His HF is reduced now so they probably do. big grin "probably" Got any evidence?

Creshosk
Originally posted by bobbi
Just my 2 cents but it seems that wolverine really has way too many high and low showings for any real debates. All the pro-wolverine ppl take the higher ones all the anti-wolverine ppl take the lower ones. And they each call the other's evidence PIS or something. When you're right you're right:
Originally posted by Battlehammer
Originally posted by Master-Borg
it's actually proven EFFECTIVE...however you deemed it PIS, so I guess it's now ineffective
No it was PIS.

Originally posted by Master-Borg
Originally posted by jinzin
Wolverine gets shot by Punisher with a rocket launcher, the rocket hits dead on; Logan's a skeleton from his torso to his thighs, he's still concious.
1. http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/6300/rocketnu2.jpg
2. http://img388.imageshack.us/img388/3319/rocket2zp5.jpg
that's pretty bad PIS.



Also Master-Borg are you going to be selctive about that piece of work? The Throat chop is plausible, but the being reduced to a skeleton is not, same guy, same story?

Is the throat chop that goes against all the events listed better than the skeleton reduced thing which has also sort of happened before?

starlock
Wolverine for the double win

Battlehammer
still trying to sigure out what standard weapons batman carriers around that gives him the advantage in a none prep fight vs wolverine.

Badabing
Originally posted by Battlehammer
still trying to sigure out what standard weapons batman carriers around that gives him the advantage in a none prep fight vs wolverine. Freeze capsules, gas grenades, smoke bombs, electric batarangs, exploding batarangs, nets, Batmobile, etc. But this changes from time to time. I think the question is do any of those things put Logan down for a KO or disable him long enough for a win? The thing with Bat's is if he meets and opponent he can't put down he's apt to retreat and study his opponent for a weakness.

Battlehammer
Originally posted by Badabing
Freeze capsules, gas grenades, smoke bombs, electric batarangs, exploding batarangs, nets, Batmobile, etc. But this changes from time to time. I think the question is do any of those things put Logan down for a KO or disable him long enough for a win? The thing with Bat's is if he meets and opponent he can't put down he's apt to retreat and study his opponent for a weakness.
most of that stuff would be rather useless and he pritty prone to going melee which is a rather bad idea vs wolverine

Badabing
Originally posted by Battlehammer
most of that stuff would be rather useless and he pritty prone to going melee which is a rather bad idea vs wolverine Logan has nothing on this though.......
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j241/Badabing_2006/Untitled-Scanned-02-23.jpg

shifty

psycho gundam
^your right, he usually just stabs people.

Phantom Zone
Originally posted by Battlehammer
most of that stuff would be rather useless and he pritty prone to going melee which is a rather bad idea vs wolverine

Eventhough he got dropped by a hail of bullets.

Phantom Ghost
- High voltage tasers/electricity
- chemical foam
- gas
- bombs/grenades
- liquid nitrogen
- magnetic batarangs
- tranquailizers/poison
- concussive blast grenades

I'm aware that Logan's healing factor is more then capable of handling some of these weapons but they've all had an effect on seriously hurting Logan at one point. With Logan's healing factor now reduced, I can only assume that they'd be even more effective. Of course that is just IMO.



Actually, taking Logan's claws into consideration, I'm sure Bruce will want to keep his distance especially if Bruce already knows he can't disarm Logan of them having watched Logan for an hour already no less. Usually one of Batman's very first priorities whenever he's fighting an opponent with a weapon is to disarm them of it ASAP and obviously with Logan he can't do that. So, the next best option Bruce would have would be too keep a healthy distance from Logan since he'd be at a disadvantage in melee combat then would likely employ stealth based tactics to turn the battle in his favor. It simply wouldn't make sense for Bruce to keep himself within range of Logan's claws knowing that he could be seriously injuried or killed against such a dangerous opponent.

Ha-Son
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Eventhough he got dropped by a hail of bullets.
Even though he survived an explosion right before that?

psycho gundam
where does batman get this vital footage of wolverine anyhow, youtube?

batman is in deep $hit and in a fight with wolverine he will have to improvise the whole time.

eventually batman he will get caught and well, those claws aren't for show

Lord Feron
How much stuff can batman hold ? lol I say the things that you have talked about will hurt logan to a great extent but to kill him? nahhh

Badabing
Originally posted by psycho gundam
where does batman get this vital footage of wolverine anyhow, youtube?

batman is in deep $hit and in a fight with wolverine he will have to improvise the whole time.

eventually batman he will get caught and well, those claws aren't for show The Versus Forum Rules:

Basic Knowledge
Each side receives basic knowledge of the other. A good measure of this would be what the general population of the character's homeworld knows. For example, that Superman has a weakness to Kryptonite is general knowledge, but that he's Clark Kent is not

It's basic knowledge that Logan has a HF, adamantium claws and skeleton. I don't think it's basic knowledge the extent of Logan's training though.....

psycho gundam
thats what I'm saying, logan was a field agent for the CIA and department H, fought in wars, a ronin ninja and did covert weapon X missions. footage is non-existent so batman is in the dark more so than logan himself was before origin came out.

people are trying to convince themselves that this is not a knightmare match for the caped one and it's got to stop.

you know what would happen if batman lets say beats up and bloodies wolverine then leaves him to rot, wolverine would quickly heal then track batman to the bat cave and kill bruce wayne right as his bat suit is around his ankles. wolverine holds grudges,

especialy with those who think they are better than him.

Phantom Ghost
Maybe... all I know is that the OP said that Batman gets to watch Logan for an hour prior to the fight.



So is Logan given Batman's weaponry and abilities. Also, you do know how good Batman is with improvising right?



I have no doubt Logan would get Bruce a couple of times but not the majority of the time IMO.



You didn't know... he has a pocket universe in his belt cool.

But really I wasn't talking about killing Logan merely KOing him.

psycho gundam
world war hulk had to punch him like four time to do that, batman cannot replicate that feat no matter whats in that small belt.

Lord Feron
Originally posted by psycho gundam
world war hulk had to punch him like four time to do that, batman cannot replicate that feat no matter whats in that small belt.

gamma pill makes him to hulk and he breaks planet and the two bruces start the monster mash!

Phantom Ghost
So you're saying that Logan's never been KOed by weaponry before and that its taken Hulk level beings to knock him unconscious?

psycho gundam
no, just stating that blunt force trauma is out of the question for a batman ko. he will have to solely resort to gadgets and evasive maneuvers, not a h2h fight, thats suicide.

batman can win, but not by fighting him h2h, some poeple think he can win like that and thats assinign.

Phantom Ghost
I agree that even Batman's best attacks won't work enough on average against Logan to take him down thus the reason why I said Logan would win the majority of the time in a hth fight. However, with strategy and weaponry I can see this fight being about even or going Batman's way for a slim majority.

psycho gundam
double post but i don't care-

if I was batman, I would treat this like your average wild animal situation. if you play by the animal's rules, you are beyond screwed, what you have to do is get the drop on the beast with heavy tranqs and tazers before they rush you and ruin your shit.

when wolverine first wae bonded with the adimantium, as most of you all know he whent berserk and broke out of the facility and was subdued by james macdonald hudson and his wife, and all they had was tranqs so, thats the best thing for this fight.

psycho gundam
batman 10/10 if he has tranqs.

but and this is a big but, this is called a "straight fight" and if a straight fight is h2h sans tech, batman is the most expensive sushi ever made.

logan 10/10 no tech.

Badabing
Originally posted by psycho gundam
double post but i don't care-

if I was batman, I would treat this like your average wild animal situation. if you play by the animal's rules, you are beyond screwed, what you have to do is get the drop on the beast with heavy tranqs and tazers before they rush you and ruin your shit.

when wolverine first wae bonded with the adimantium, as most of you all know he whent berserk and broke out of the facility and was subdued by james macdonald hudson and his wife, and all they had was tranqs so, thats the best thing for this fight. Double post? DOUBLE POST!!!!!

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psycho gundam
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Badabing
Originally posted by psycho gundam
NOOOOOO NOOOTTT THAAAATT!!!!! duryes


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batdude123
Batman has more than enough potent gadgetry in his belt to take down Wolverine.

Badabing
Originally posted by batdude123
Batman has more than enough potent gadgetry in his belt to take down Wolverine. shock sick eek!

batdude123
Originally posted by Badabing
shock sick eek!

Yes, Bada... of course I'm talking about his seamen.

horrorwolf
Originally posted by batdude123
Batman has more than enough potent gadgetry in his belt to take down Wolverine.

er....such as? sad

I don't think prep was specified here for Batman. Just pure Bloodlust.

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