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But wait, I can hear people say, banks are going broke and even major players like Bear Stearns have been on the brink. Surely the Illuminati families wouldn't want that? Oh, but they would because of the contribution it makes to their overall agenda.

It is important to stress the difference between running a bank within the game and owning the game itself. Take the symbolic example of the board game called Monopoly. Different people come and go, playing the game and 'winning' and 'losing'.

But the game itself can never 'lose' because it is the board on which everyone has to play, winners and losers, and it is all the houses, hotels, instruction cards and rules that they have to play with and abide by. Players of the game may use its board, money and real estate for a while, but the game always gets them back, or the owner of the game does.

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Monopoly: he who creates the game controls the rules

Yes, the US bank Bear Stearns saw its share price plummet from more than $150 a share down to almost zero. But who has sought to take advantage of that? The notorious Illuminati operation, J P Morgan Chase, which has offered Bear $2 a share in its takeover bid - and the Illuminati-created and controlled Federal Reserve, the privately-owned 'central bank' of America, has made the Morgan takeover virtually risk-free by guaranteeing up to $30 billion of Bear's mortgages and other assets.

It's a stitch-up. Some banks will go to the wall and either disappear or be absorbed for cents on the dollar by other Illuminati operations and it suits the agenda to install fewer, but bigger, banks because that reduces the number of people with any influence on competition and financial events in general.

It is sobering to read this Internet account of the engineered Wall Street Crash of 1929 which led to the Great depression of the 1930s, a time that some commentators are claiming we may be about to experience again:

'Throughout the 1920s a long boom took stock prices to peaks never before seen. From 1920 to 1929 stocks more than quadrupled in value. Many investors became convinced that stocks were a sure thing and borrowed heavily to invest more money in the market.

But in 1929, the bubble burst and stocks started down an ever more precipitous cliff. In 1932 and 1933, they hit bottom, down about 80% from their highs in the late 1920s. This had sharp effects on the economy. Demand for goods declined because people felt poor because of their losses in the stock market. New investment could not be financed through the sale of stock, because no one would buy the new stock.

But perhaps the most important effect was chaos in the banking system as banks tried to collect on loans made to stockmarket investors whose holdings were now worth little or nothing at all. Worse, many banks had themselves invested depositors' money in the stockmarket. When word spread that banks' assets contained huge uncollectable loans and almost worthless stock certificates, depositors rushed to withdraw their savings. Unable to raise fresh funds from the Federal Reserve System, banks began failing by the hundreds in 1932 and 1933.'

Those hundreds of failing banks were either absorbed for next to nothing by the big banks, which became even richer and more powerful as a result, or they were left to disappear and reduce the potential competition. Individual banks may come and go, but the banking system, the game, is always there.

For '... chaos in the banking system as banks tried to collect on loans made to stockmarket investors whose holdings were now worth little or nothing at all', read sub-prime mortgages and such like that we have now. Imagine the effect of a stockmarket crash today on top of everything else and it's coming, make no mistake. It's all in the script.

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America during the banker-created Great Depression

It was no coincidence at all that the crash of the 1930s was unleashed by the Illuminati Federal Reserve making several increases in interest rates to 'cool the stockmarket', nor that the economic collapse brought the Illuminati front man Franklin Roosevelt to the White House with his 'New Deal' to 'solve the crisis'. Instead, he took the United States into World War Two.

What we are seeing is just 'history' (the techniques of mass manipulation) repeating.

After the 'boom' created by low interest rates and unlimited credit since the 1990s, they are crashing the global economy through what is being called the 'Credit Crunch'. Put another way, they put lots of money into circulation (boom) and now they are taking it out again (bust).

This means that there comes a moment when there is simply not enough money in circulation for everyone to pay back their outstanding 'loans'. Suffering and homelessness are built into the system.

Other aspects of this same agenda include:

The crashing of the US dollar to prepare for its replacement by a 'North American Union' currency (working title at least, the Amero) which would become the currency of the United States, Canada and Mexico with plans to extend it to the whole of the Americas.
Creating such a scale of economic suffering and dependency that people will do anything, at however low the wage, just to survive and with 'outsourcing' and the massive influx of people from poorer countries into places like North America, the UK and the rest of Western Europe, the competition for this low-paid work is being intensified still more (see the video sequence after this article).
Watching the news as the crisis unfolds is like witnessing a car crash in slow motion, or a replay of one you have seen, or read about, many times before; and debt has reached such astronomical proportions that we're right out of seat belts.

Like I say, in the end it's all a mind game based on the manipulation of that mental and emotional state we call 'confidence'. When you control the mainstream media and the leading politicians then controlling the level of 'confidence' is a synch.

When people have confidence in banks, stockmarkets and the strength of the economy in general, they borrow more money, get into more debt, spend more and invest more in things like stocks and shares. The result: there is an economic and stockmarket boom.

When people lose confidence in banks, stockmarkets and the strength of the economy in general, they borrow less money, spend less and invest less in things like stocks and shares. The result: there is an economic and stockmarket 'crisis'.

So tell them everything is wonderful and give them lots of credit and then tell them everything is in chaos and stop their lines of credit. It is so easy when you own the game. As the brilliant American comedian, George Carlin, put it: 'It's big club and you ain't in it' - see video clip at the end of this article.

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Wall Street: A Las Vegas casino

Many years ago I spoke about all this at a financial conference and afterwards a man who speculated for a living on the commodity markets (deciding if people in 'Third World' countries ate or not) came over to speak to me. He said he didn't believe what I said about manipulation of the system, but he would keep his eyes open from now on.

A few months later I met him again and he was transformed. He said he had noticed that three or four days before a state-of-the-economy statement by the then Federal Reserve chief, Alan Greenspan, the big players in the markets would go to work moving their investments around.

Every time, he said, the result of Greenspan's words was to increase the value of what the big players had been buying and push down what they had been selling. The reason does not need a genius to explain: The big players were colluding in Greenspan's statements.

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Welcome to the 'real' world ...

The way to withdraw as much as possible from the clutches of this economic imprisonment is to get out of debt as much as possible. This is difficult for most people who are buying their homes because the cost is so high compared with their income and savings - and the explosion in house prices was fuelled by the very credit free-for-all that has made initial buying, if not the repayments, so easy.

But in everything else most people do have a choice not to borrow money for things they don't actually need - and that's where so much credit 'money' is spent. If people can't afford something that is not essential then don't buy it if you can't pay cash because otherwise you are mortgaging your life to the banking cartel.

I rented my flat with its one bedroom and little office and I only bought it in the end with a mortgage because it was perfect for my needs and the owner wanted to sell it to someone else if not to me.

I can't afford anything bigger and that's fine because I don't want anything bigger. I have no desire whatsoever for the big-house, big-car lifestyle. I have to laugh when I see people on the Internet claiming that I must be filthy rich because of the big house I own when the 'big house' is a block of small flats, of which I 'own', or the bank does, only one.

But on everything else in my life I have a simple and strict philosophy. If I can't pay cash I don't want it, thanks. Don't let anyone try to sell me trinkets as a symbol of my success, and offer me cheap credit to buy them, because they can stick it all where the sun will never trouble the darkness.

If we don't fall for the trinkets version of 'success' and the lack-of-them version of 'failure', then we reduce massively the dependence on credit to finance our pursuit of what the very system lending us that non-existent money is telling us we must have to be 'successful'.

If you buy the system's version of reality it will eventually devour you, if not always economically then at least in the devouring of your soul.

So we don't have the latest car, fashion or bit of bloody 'bling'. Who gives a shit? What nonsense it all is.

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'And a fed it wiv da credit ...'

How far we have become disconnected from true wealth and the understanding that life is about more than irrelevant baubles, bangles and beads. As a Native American chief called Seattle is supposed to have said:

'How can you buy or sell the sky, the warmth of the land? The idea is strange to us. If we do not own the freshness of the air and the sparkle of the water, how can you buy them? ...

... We know that the white man does not understand our ways ... he is a stranger who comes in the night and takes from the land whatever he needs. The earth is not his brother, but his enemy, and when he has conquered it, he moves on ...

... He treats his mother, the earth, and his brother, the sky, as things to be bought, plundered, sold like sheep or bright beads. His appetite will devour the earth and leave behind only a desert.'

And not just a 'physical' one, but a spiritual one, too. As another Native American saying from the Cree people goes:

'Only after the last tree has been cut down
Only after the last river has been poisoned
Only after the last fish has been caught
Only then will you find you cannot eat money

I first quoted that saying 24 years ago when I was campaigning against environmental destruction. It is getting more relevant by the day.

IMHO The best thread you ever posted Deano! Thanks!

The Mark of the Beast = Paper Money!

Everything Deano talked about is 110% TRUE!

Originally posted by Katsu
IMHO The best thread you ever posted Deano! Thanks!

The Mark of the Beast = Paper Money!

Everything Deano talked about is 110% TRUE! You need a life. Seriously.

Originally posted by lord xyz
You need a life. Seriously.

You need critical thinking.

Your life is ruled by thinking what they want you to think. Your thoughts are dictated.

Elite: Sit down Lord
Lord: Woof
Elite: Roll over Lord
Lord: Woof

Originally posted by Katsu
You need critical thinking.

Your life is ruled by thinking what they want you to think. Your thoughts are dictated.

Elite: Sit down Lord
Lord: Woof
Elite: Roll over Lord
Lord: Woof Who are they? I think for myself...and I think you're an idiot who doesn't know what he's talking about.

they are the writing on the wall, the whispers in the classrooms, without these things, they could not exist...or that could just be candyman


but seriously..money controls us all..if you let it

things aren't always what they seem in the banking world...a major swiss bank hit by the mortgage fiasco in the US announced losses of over 30 billion dollars and the markets went up 400 points because it's now seen as being the high tide mark and that things will generally start getting back to normal...

Originally posted by jaden101
things aren't always what they seem in the banking world...a major swiss bank hit by the mortgage fiasco in the US announced losses of over 30 billion dollars and the markets went up 400 points because it's now seen as being the high tide mark and that things will generally start getting back to normal...

Really?

I think its only the beginning. We have just been witness to the starting collapse of the greatest hoax of all time: Paper Money, Money which does not exist!

Have you people seen the tent cities in the USA? People who lost their homes unable to pay their mortgages, forcd to live in tent camps which have become so big by now we can speak of entire tent cities!

The FED continues lowering the rates which will only make it worse ->lower rates->creates more worthless money-> even more people take loans-> even more debt created! + inflation disaster wating to happen!

American companies are outsourcing more and more work to lower wage countries like India and China, this will cripple the USA even more, there is little to nothing being produced in USA (its economy is based on debt not production) which means they have NOTHING to pay their debts with, basically the USA only has useless I.O.U. papers (dollar)...........USA is being financed by China and Japan, we could even say that the war in Iraq is indirectly being financed by these 2 countries

The vice president of China's central bank recently said that they have decided to get rid of their dollars, slowly but surely!

The only thing thats keeping the entire USA from collapsing are China , Japan and the petro-dollar, if they decide to start selling oil in euro's, the USA is truly done for!

We are in for a GIGA ENORMOUS BIG ULTRA SUPERDUPER CRISIS!

People, this had to and will happen, Paper Money does not Exist! Its not a question of IF but WHEN!

Originally posted by Katsu
Really?

I think its only the beginning. We have just been witness to the starting collapse of the greatest hoax of all time: Paper Money, Money which does not exist!

Have you people seen the tent cities in the USA? People who lost their homes unable to pay their mortgages, forcd to live in tent camps which have become so big by now we can speak of entire tent cities!

The FED continues lowering the rates which will only make it worse ->lower rates->creates more worthless money-> even more people take loans-> even more debt created! + inflation disaster wating to happen!

American companies are outsourcing more and more work to lower wage countries like India and China, this will cripple the USA even more, there is little to nothing being produced in USA (its economy is based on debt not production) which means they have NOTHING to pay their debts with, basically the USA only has useless I.O.U. papers (dollar)...........USA is being financed by China and Japan, we could even say that the war in Iraq is indirectly being financed by these 2 countries

The vice president of China's central bank recently said that they have decided to get rid of their dollars, slowly but surely!

The only thing thats keeping the entire USA from collapsing are China , Japan and the petro-dollar, if they decide to start selling oil in euro's, the USA is truly done for!

We are in for a GIGA ENORMOUS BIG ULTRA SUPERDUPER CRISIS!

People, this had to and will happen, Paper Money does not Exist! Its not a question of IF but WHEN!

the debt mountain is a massive problem yes but the people who have been made homeless because they cant pay their mortgages are generally those who took out sub-prime loans because their credit ratings are shit....they know these loans are given to them at a higher interest rate because they are considered a risk because they've defaulted on other credits...so when the already high interest rate goes up then they get ****ed over....but then if they'd kept their credit rating reasonable then they wouldn't be living in a tent

harsh to say...but it's reality

Jaden101, do you really, but really understand the situation our world is in at the moment?

Do you really understand what paper money is and what it means?

This will not just affect the people who cant pay back their loans on the short term, this will effect the ENTIRE world in the longrun!

All people who dont understand what paper money really is and why it is the downfall of our beatiful blue planet, please watch the movie i posted.

Money as debt: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9050474362583451279&q=money+as+debt&total=1907&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0

After you have seen this vid, you too will understand why we are in DEEP SHIT!

All the money in this world is owned by the bankers. We the people basically own NOTHING, it all belongs to the bankers. We work, they own us.............its nothing less than SLAVERY.

Originally posted by Katsu
Jaden101, do you really, but really understand the situation our world is in at the moment?

Do you really understand what paper money is and what it means?

This will not just affect the people who cant pay back their loans on the short term, this will effect the ENTIRE world in the longrun!

All people who dont understand what paper money really is and why it is the downfall of our beatiful blue planet, please watch the movie i posted.

Money as debt: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9050474362583451279&q=money+as+debt&total=1907&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0

After you have seen this vid, you too will understand why we are in DEEP SHIT!

All the money in this world is owned by the bankers. We the people basically own NOTHING, it all belongs to the bankers. We work, they own us.............its nothing less than SLAVERY.

your idea of the banking sytsem as some all pervasive and unstoppable entity is flawed though....Northen Rock showed that an unfounded panic that makes people take money out can bring a bank to its knees in a matter of days...

Originally posted by Katsu
IMHO The best thread you ever posted Deano! Thanks!

The Mark of the Beast = Paper Money!

Everything Deano talked about is 110% TRUE!

well you werent around a long time ago when he made some really great 9/11 threads.yeah great thread Deano,well done.

Originally posted by Katsu
You need critical thinking.

Your life is ruled by thinking what they want you to think. Your thoughts are dictated.

Elite: Sit down Lord
Lord: Woof
Elite: Roll over Lord
Lord: Woof

yep.that pretty much decribes him to a tee.You can explain it to him all you want that there is no difference between the two parties of republicans and democrats-something me you and deano are all aware of,that they pretty much sleep in bed together and have the same world agenda of a new world order,but because of his long held beliefs,he doesnt want to unlearn what he has learned that BOTH parties are corrupted and evil and as long as it stays the same and we dont get a third party started,theres really no hope for the future where the people have control over the government like our forefathers faught for instead of all these big businesses and corporations having control over the government like they do.

He doesnt get it that theres no difference between Bush.Clinton,Obama or MCcain,that they are all connected to the CFR.None of those candidates are for us,they all will do the bidding of the CFR which is to get us into fake and phony wars so these big corporations can profit from it.Thats why we need Ron Paul in there cause he is the only candidate for the people.He is NOT connected to the CFR and thats why he is not getting any media coverage like the big 3 Mccain,Clinton and Obama are.The CFR which controls world events dont care if any of those 3 get elected,they DO care if Ron Paul does which is why they are not giving him any media coverage and prevented him from participating in the new hampshire primarys which is election fraud.Ron Paul would get rid of this money system we have.The other big 3 will just continue to let it go on.

Great job Deano talking about the Rothchilds and the Rockefellers. thats what I just got through talking about on Katsu's media thread how the world is in the mess it is because the rothchilds and rockefellers are controlling it and are an evil empire of familys.It amazes me how those familys get away with these crimes against humanity.

Originally posted by lord xyz
Who are they? I think for myself...and I think you're an idiot who doesn't know what he's talking about.

I like your sig.

As for the thread: Yeah.

BUMP BUMP BUMP

Personally i feel this thread has not been read enough. People need to understand why our beloved PAPER MONEY DOES NOT EXIST.

Do you really understand what i am saying here? Better get to studying the basics of economics!

The bankers own the world, everyone is enslaved by debt, from governments to people to companies.

All of us are enslaved by the bankers. They lend out money which does not exist and charge interest over it.......now when you cant pay back your loans the banks end up with all the REAL assets like houses, cars and companies! So they have turned money which does not exist in REAL stuff with value! This system my friends, is genius and evil to the core!

We have been enslaved! Realize this!

well its kinda a waste to bump it cause sadly not many people visit the conspiracy section.

i've not been enslaved because i'm not in any debt....