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i was bored sohmmdur

thanos and annhilus have teamed up again,can this team stop them?
no bfr


team
silver surfer
thor(classic)
sentry
quasar(no stealing his bands)
hulk

vs
thanos
annihilus w/control rod

yes

Team falls.

tell me how good friend

lots of power on team one and thanos can't bfr

Team 2 wins.

how do they win

Originally posted by guy222
tell me how good friend

lots of power on team one and thanos can't bfr

Thanos has taken the Surfer's best shot, Annihilus has some really strong offensive capabilities.

Team 1 doesn't have the durability to survive for long.

So does Annihilus have bands as well?

Originally posted by llagrok
Thanos has taken the Surfer's best shot, Annihilus has some really strong offensive capabilities.

Team 1 doesn't have the durability to survive for long.

Same Annihilus has lost to the FF and Thor

Without BFR, I don't see how Thanos is standing up to all that power once the Team takes out the Bug

Team 2.

The most powerful dude out there in team 1 is Surfer. And we know that Thanos can beat Surfer with a couple of punch. And Ko'ed Thor with a mere eyes beams

Thanos Clone killed Thor in an Odin Vision...

Quasar and Thor get taken out easily... no debate.
Surfer could... but too many people want to underrate Thanos.

Which leaves Sentry, Hulk, and apparently Surfer to fend off against Thanos/Annihilus.

Which means Surfer solos... as Thanos can never hit Surfer... and I don't know what excuse Annihilus will have for failing against Surfer... but it's there.

is this wwh? even if not i can see the team taking some wins, but not a majority. if its wwh that might change the outcome.

where'd this 'vision' you're talking about happen, bran? and . . . your avy is disturbing.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Which leaves Sentry, Hulk, and apparently Surfer to fend off against Thanos/Annihilus.


But but sentry have stalemated Galactus, so he soloes doesn't he ...

Originally posted by leonidas
is this wwh? even if not i can see the team taking some wins, but not a majority. if its wwh that might change the outcome.

where'd this 'vision' you're talking about happen, bran? and . . . your avy is disturbing. How does Hulk change the outcome?

It was in Thor v2 #22... or something around there. I'll probably get it...

It's memorizing isn't it?

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
How does Hulk change the outcome?

It was in Thor v2 #22... or something around there. I'll probably get it...

It's memorizing isn't it?

er, memorizing . . .?

given what he accomplished (i'm aware that you think wwh was a lot of PIS) wwh could likely take annihilus 1on1 imo while the team works over thanos. if all are written correctly thor, quasar sentry and ss should be able to take thanos.

i think i have #22 but don't recall that scene. i'll prolly get around to looking . . .

Originally posted by leonidas
er, memorizing . . .?

given what he accomplished (i'm aware that you think wwh was a lot of PIS) wwh could likely take annihilus 1on1 imo while the team works over thanos. if all are written correctly thor, quasar sentry and ss should be able to take thanos.

i think i have #22 but don't recall that scene. i'll prolly get around to looking . . . Ya.

He never impressed me on that level. Even ignoring pis. Plus... Annihilus loves that energy...

Forgot about Thor being down already... but he still got burnt... I mean, srsly.
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wasn't thanos already amped at that point? and i've never really bought the whole clone thing being 'weaker'. amped as it was that clone was pretty friggin uber . . .

later thor pretty easily dealt with a massive blast simliar to that by absorbing it so his being down DOES play a role in this case.

thor's showings against thanos haven't been much better than ss's, but like ss i think thor COULD pose a problem for him were he really done well. i think the 4 of those guys could make life pretty miserable for thanos. not saying wwh takes annihilus down, but he certainly could keep him occupied imo long enough for help to arrive.

i still see the team taking some, but not the majority. it's closer with wwh imo.

Originally posted by leonidas
wasn't thanos already amped at that point? and i've never really bought the whole clone thing being 'weaker'. amped as it was that clone was pretty friggin uber . . .

later thor pretty easily dealt with a massive blast simliar to that by absorbing it so his being down DOES play a role in this case.

thor's showings against thanos haven't been much better than ss's, but like ss i think thor COULD pose a problem for him were he really done well. i think the 4 of those guys could make life pretty miserable for thanos. not saying wwh takes annihilus down, but he certainly could keep him occupied imo long enough for help to arrive.

i still see the team taking some, but not the majority. it's closer with wwh imo. No. He drank from the power after he killed him.

Of course, but I'm talking about the ability to kill Thor... and Thanos can hit Thor's body.

Thor's showings have almost been worse... no wait... worse.
And if Thanos is well done? Really, Thor might have the best showings in Marvel (out of that range of power), but he's still the worst choice to fight Thanos. I can't see him posing a problem on his own.

Sure. But why will one Hulk be fighting Annihilus, while the other four gang up on Thanos? No teamwork?

Either way, Quasar and Thor fail early.

i don't know why you'd say thor is ill-suited to battle thanos, or why you'd think q would fail early. thor's ability to absorb energy is about the best in marvel EXCEPT for maybe quasar. thor's magic is also well suited to give thanos hassles. imo thor is better prepared to take out thanos than ss whose speed has never been shown to be effective and whose matter control is off-set by thanos's own matter control.

anyway, with the numbers advantage and the teleportation of the team, they could pretty easily dictate who battled where. thor and q port to thanos, ss's speed gets him there and sentry can also teleport i think. or his speed gets him there while q ports hulk to annihilus.

think you're seriously under-rating thor and quasar for reasons i don't quite understand.

Has Thor almost dropped Thanos before?

Originally posted by leonidas
i don't know why you'd say thor is ill-suited to battle thanos, or why you'd think q would fail early. thor's ability to absorb energy is about the best in marvel EXCEPT for maybe quasar. thor's magic is also well suited to give thanos hassles. imo thor is better prepared to take out thanos than ss whose speed has never been shown to be effective and whose matter control is off-set by thanos's own matter control.

anyway, with the numbers advantage and the teleportation of the team, they could pretty easily dictate who battled where. thor and q port to thanos, ss's speed gets him there and sentry can also teleport i think. or his speed gets him there while q ports hulk to annihilus.

think you're seriously under-rating thor and quasar for reasons i don't quite understand. Thor was taken out by blasts fairly easy by Thanos... and it's not impossible to hit him with energy. Far from it.
Q was easily killed by Annihilus.
Also, Thor isn't. Thor's hammer was almost overloaded by a lightning Absorbing Man...

But why would they have the battles so uneven in numbers advantage?

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Thor was taken out by blasts fairly easy by Thanos... and it's not impossible to hit him with energy. Far from it.
Q was easily killed by Annihilus.
Also, Thor isn't. Thor's hammer was almost overloaded by a lightning Absorbing Man...

But why would they have the battles so uneven in numbers advantage?

because they would know thanos is by far the more potent threat. and thor's hammer has absorbed the force of a celestial null bomb. not to mention easily absorbing thanos's own blast in that same arc. hitting thor with energy is like someone hitting flash. of course it happens, but in this forum, it really mostly shouldn't.

in any event, lightning from absorbing man nearly overloading the hammer just MIGHT be a little pis-sy . . .

never saw the quasar battle with annihilus, but if he were taken down that easily that sounds a little suspect. i won't go into quasar's feats (which i'm sure you know), but before annihilation i'd have said quasar v annihilus was a pretty damn good match-up. some of the bigwigs quasar has hung with is pretty impressive, not to mention the ridiculous speed advantage q would have.

still haven't seen any scans that would prove to me that annihilus would be able to simply absorb the gamma radiation right out of hulk. if he could do that, he could also simply absorb the PC from ss and SHOULD have been able to absorb the nova force from rider . . .

Originally posted by leonidas
because they would know thanos is by far the more potent threat. and thor's hammer has absorbed the force of a celestial null bomb. not to mention easily absorbing thanos's own blast in that same arc. hitting thor with energy is like someone hitting flash. of course it happens, but in this forum, it really mostly shouldn't.

in any event, lightning from absorbing man nearly overloading the hammer just MIGHT be a little pis-sy . . .

never saw the quasar battle with annihilus, but if he were taken down that easily that sounds a little suspect. i won't go into quasar's feats (which i'm sure you know), but before annihilation i'd have said quasar v annihilus was a pretty damn good match-up. some of the bigwigs quasar has hung with is pretty impressive, not to mention the ridiculous speed advantage q would have.

still haven't seen any scans that would prove to me that annihilus would be able to simply absorb the gamma radiation right out of hulk. if he could do that, he could also simply absorb the PC from ss and SHOULD have been able to absorb the nova force from rider . . . Not after they read the files on Annihilation... and they know he's dangerous even before.
Thor gets hit like in every battle he's ever been in...

He absorbed AM in entirety. And it almost overloaded it.

Suspect? Maybe. Your face! Most definately.
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He was going to kill Nova and absorb his energy as seen in scans above... however, they tricked him into making his wave attack itself. If the Wave wasn't there... Nova wouldn't have been alive right now. And who's to say he couldn't feast on Surfer nowadays?

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Not after they read the files on Annihilation... and they know he's dangerous even before.
Thor gets hit like in every battle he's ever been in...

He absorbed AM in entirety. And it almost overloaded it.

Suspect? Maybe. Your face! Most definately.
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Annihalation-Nova04page15.jpg
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He was going to kill Nova and absorb his energy as seen in scans above... however, they tricked him into making his wave attack itself. If the Wave wasn't there... Nova wouldn't have been alive right now. And who's to say he couldn't feast on Surfer nowadays?

HA! i should write this stuff!

meh, maybe he could absorb ss's power and you've made the case i was asking for against hulk. it's likely he could absorb hulk's radiation, but ss could also constantly be feeding him gamma rad if they really decided to work as a team and ss saw hulk needed some help. anyway, i don't get why annihilus didn't absorb the nova force when he lost to rider though. and it was a little PIS-sy the way he beat quasar. the quantum zone's energy is infinite. no way that should have bothered quasar like it did, and his shields have fended off galactus . . . and if he could take the energy from the bands against quasar, why not against phylla??

thor's a twit. and he's absorbed energy a LOT in battles. just not every time. you can't really argue comicbook logic bran. and i'd love to see a a godforce blast on thanos -- the kind that broke exitar's dome.

If i remember correctly i think Annihilus did absorb some of Riders nova force before the retreat.. (not really 100%) All dough Rider at that time was quite novice in the control of the full force..

As for this fight, its a very close match/a toss up. The duo probably..

I think it would need at least two members of the team
( Surfer/Thor accompanied by either Quazar/Sentry/Hulk) to put down Annihilus permanently and rather quickly before Thanos takes down the remaining team but with just one 1st tier char against him. He could likely take down his opponent faster than the team taking down Annihilus.. It would be down hell for the team after that..

Originally posted by leonidas
HA! i should write this stuff!

meh, maybe he could absorb ss's power and you've made the case i was asking for against hulk. it's likely he could absorb hulk's radiation, but ss could also constantly be feeding him gamma rad if they really decided to work as a team and ss saw hulk needed some help. anyway, i don't get why annihilus didn't absorb the nova force when he lost to rider though. and it was a little PIS-sy the way he beat quasar. the quantum zone's energy is infinite. no way that should have bothered quasar like it did, and his shields have fended off galactus . . . and if he could take the energy from the bands against quasar, why not against phylla??

thor's a twit. and he's absorbed energy a LOT in battles. just not every time. you can't really argue comicbook logic bran. and i'd love to see a a godforce blast on thanos -- the kind that broke exitar's dome. Perhaps.
He said he didn't want to make the same mistake twice in the scans I posted...
As is the Control Rod's power limit I believe. Either way, Annil broke down his body, and f*cked him over...
And this is an average showing of his shields?

Because Phyla took him by surprised, he one-shotted her, and Nova was already at his throat basically. He had absolutely no time to accomplish this.

Even then, he can still be hit. He still has to react to it.
His anti-matter blast x 100 failed against Thanos...
Anyway, the one against Exitar was when he had the Belt of Strength.

belt of strength was irrevelent. it strengthens him physically. why he draped it over the hammer i'll never know . . .

antimatter x100? i thought he used thanos own power against him? anyway, clone or no, in that battle thor officially surpassed any showing ss has ever had against any thanos minus the one where he defeated thanos when strange sent them to that mental realm.

i don't think the rod is infinite and hasn't thor smashed it or broken it in the past?

quasar's shields are ridiculously powerful. they've easily held against ss not to mention a whole host of heroes simultaneously in IG. they've held against a watcher as well. annihilus beat him, clearly, just seems odd and unfortunate it was that easy given how powerful q has been shown to be. doesn't seem like a very proper ending for him.

i'll stand by my original thought and say the team is capable of taking a couple out of 10.