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i believe episode 3 is 2nd best next to esb. i was kinda dissapointed a bit with the mustafar obiwan vs anakin battle. only beef i have with it it wasnt long enough. i was curious if anyone else agrees

It was long enough, I just wish they didnt use so many close ups of their face where we couldnt see the damn fight.

Originally posted by @st
It was long enough, I just wish they didnt use so many close ups of their face where we couldnt see the damn fight.



it coulda been longer

Originally posted by @st
It was long enough, I just wish they didnt use so many close ups of their face where we couldnt see the damn fight.

It was less about the fight and more about why they were fighting. The emotion was more important than choreography.

The fight scene was as it should've been and good

I wish the first half of that film existed as something more than shit.

Originally posted by P23
it coulda been longer

And more boring.

There was some more dialogue between obiwan and anakin that I wish were present, but other than that it was fine.

Originally posted by exanda kane
I wish the first half of that film existed as something more than shit. ROFL!

It was fine for what it was. Remove those feckin' droids though. That random one which hovers by them while their balancing on the catwalk is so bloody annoying. I blame Alliance for pointing it out.

The Temple invasion should have been longer, in more detail. Actually show Vader killing Jedi, instead of implying that all he was good at was butchering kindergartners.

It lasted what it lasted.

It was a documentary after all.

1. ROTS kind of sucked.

2. No, the fight should not have been longer. Since half the damn movie was lightsaber fights anyway, the 15 minutes we spent on the Mustafar duel was way too long as it was, not to mention it was annoying to have it split up by the noobish Yoda v Sidious fight.

Originally posted by Tangible God
It was fine for what it was. Remove those feckin' droids though. That random one which hovers by them while their balancing on the catwalk is so bloody annoying. I blame Alliance for pointing it out.

Originally posted by exanda kane
I wish the first half of that film existed as something more than shit.

So hatefull.

All in all, however, The movie was good, and the fight was what it needed to be. The only real problem was the Yoda part cutting into the Anakin and Obiwan battle.

Originally posted by Kapton JAC
So hatefull.

All in all, however, The movie was good, and the fight was what it needed to be. The only real problem was the Yoda part cutting into the Anakin and Obiwan battle.

That isn't a problem you t.i.t. Might hurt your delicate sensibilities, but when you consider that it is a film and not the mystical projections of your orgasmic-geek-EU-boy mentallity on 35mm, you're wrong.

I found it a problem. Separate the fights and maybe give Anakin and Obi-Wan some lines. The Yoda vs. Sidious was irritating, I always fast forward through it.

i wish the Yoda-sidous fight had been longer. which was actually more important? be honest.... if Obi-wan dies, and Yoda kills Sidious, its just a matter of time before vader dies too, there is no Galactic Empire, and everything gets put back to normal eventually. But obi wan beating vader obviously wasn't a good enough reason for the Jedi to stick around.

Vader living would have been a bigger threat in the long run. Even Sidious recognized that.

Originally posted by Tangible God
I found it a problem. Separate the fights and maybe give Anakin and Obi-Wan some lines. The Yoda vs. Sidious was irritating, I always fast forward through it.

No

Originally posted by exanda kane
No I see a... yes.

I don't.

I do not like Yoda's battle either... I always hoped that for the new movies when Yoda would fight, the others would just ran away because they were too afraid of him but that obviously could not happen in Ep III.

And I do not want the mustafar fight longer, I want them to have less close ups... emotions, yes, but not seeing their face and than just some illuminating tlc-lamps being around their face

My main problem with the Yoda fight is taht he doesn't appear to be so great...

Originally posted by queeq
My main problem with the Yoda fight is taht he doesn't appear to be so great...




the fight coulda been more. to me it didnt fit why yoda was afraid of the emporer in ep6. to be honest they both were equal in ep 3 if you look at it

Originally posted by P23
the fight coulda been more. to me it didnt fit why yoda was afraid of the emporer in ep6. to be honest they both were equal in ep 3 if you look at it Well he did spend 23 years doing nothing, while the Emperor was free to wallow in power. I'd be cautious too.

Indeed... but still, Yoda seemd easiliy beaten by Sidious. It kinda makes Yoda's response to Luke's question "Is the Dark Side stronger?" a little dodgy.

Originally posted by queeq
Indeed... but still, Yoda seemd easiliy beaten by Sidious. It kinda makes Yoda's response to Luke's question "Is the Dark Side stronger?" a little dodgy. Lol, would you rather he tell the galaxy's one and only hope "Yeah, it is. May as well give up now, even I was WTFpwned."

it could have been longer and more boring, or longer and more intereseting. I would have found a way to give everyone in star wars prequel about twice the power they show. there was a scene in jedi knight iii where two guys are bouncing off of the walls fighting each other. I would have had sids and yoda doing something like this in the council chamber instead of having sids fight like an old man and yoda fight exceptionally, how i would have had every character fight in star wars. I also would have done it in the style that beowulf was done in if it meant far better fight scenes.

a zero gravity fight scene would have been cool, as well, maybe a planet with zero gravity and you could have clones doing flips while shooting like in the republic commando multiplayer level, and jedis dueling and stuff. that would have been so cool. Instead we got stiff actors and stiff fighters.

Originally posted by P23
the fight coulda been more. to me it didnt fit why yoda was afraid of the emporer in ep6. to be honest they both were equal in ep 3 if you look at it

Yeah...no need to fear the guy that defeated you in combat fair and square who also happens to have a galactic empire at his disposal with an army of millions cloned from the greatest bounty hunter; who also has a giant space station capable of blasting planets out of existence; who also happens to have the chosen one corrupted as his right hand.

Yep. No need to fear Palpatine at all.

Originally posted by Tangible God
Lol, would you rather he tell the galaxy's one and only hope "Yeah, it is. May as well give up now, even I was WTFpwned."

He would have been honest though...

Honesty, that's the key; You master that and you can change your stars. I miss Heath Ledger.

Originally posted by queeq
He would have been honest though...

Not much of a virtue..

Leia : "We're on a diplomatic mission".
Truth: We are on returning data from espionage mission.

Obi1: "He betrayed and murdered your father"
Truth: Your father betrayed and murdered everyone.

OB1 was a notorious liar... seems to be the Jedi way.

And Leia was a politician, it's no secret that they lie...

Originally posted by Lord Knightfa11
it could have been longer and more boring, or longer and more intereseting. I would have found a way to give everyone in star wars prequel about twice the power they show. there was a scene in jedi knight iii where two guys are bouncing off of the walls fighting each other. I would have had sids and yoda doing something like this in the council chamber instead of having sids fight like an old man and yoda fight exceptionally, how i would have had every character fight in star wars. I also would have done it in the style that beowulf was done in if it meant far better fight scenes.

a zero gravity fight scene would have been cool, as well, maybe a planet with zero gravity and you could have clones doing flips while shooting like in the republic commando multiplayer level, and jedis dueling and stuff. that would have been so cool. Instead we got stiff actors and stiff fighters.

You on poppers or something?

Hehehe

! no, im just saying, for the most powerful sith lord, sideous shows no lightsaber skills. They should have both been doing yoda style flips and jumps and crazy stuff. And with all of the typical star wars fights, why not add something a little unique to one of the fights, like a low gravity fight scene.

Originally posted by Lord Knightfa11
! no, im just saying, for the most powerful sith lord, sideous shows no lightsaber skills. They should have both been doing yoda style flips and jumps and crazy stuff. And with all of the typical star wars fights, why not add something a little unique to one of the fights, like a low gravity fight scene. Oh my God, are you from Africa? 'Cause you just started a sentence with an exclamation mark.

And what would you have the Sithliest of Sith do in terms of a saber fight? A big black blur that no one can see, not even Lucas' magic lens?

well duh!

"!" is a way of exclamation and surprise in some internet consoles. ITs kinda like "Well i never" or "WTH!" or "DOH!" all in one. keep up with the internet slang.

not a big black blur that noone can see, im just saying that his feet seem to be firmly planted on some sort of ground throughout the whole fight, he doesnt seem to be lightning fast, or flipping around, or doing anything that you see yoda doing in that fight. i would have liked to have seen some saber skills, instead of just defence.

i gotta agree there, i think Queeq said he didn't think Yoda was all that impressive, but to be honest, neither did Palpatine. Both obi-wan and ANakin seemed to be at a higher level in their duel, in terms of pure speed anyway. If it was to be believed, the Yoda-Sids fight was the GREATEST CLASH of dark versus light in the HISTORY of the galaxy. It should have been longer,and more spectacular.

Palpatine did suck though, I was expecting him to take on like 20 Jedi only to slice and dice 'em leaving Mace standing.

it looked sorta corny just having him instantly kill 2 jedi while they kinda lope around. maybe if they had him do some sort of vapaad and hit in more places then 1 at a time. he had mastered all of the forms..., and totally cging sids would be easy.

yeah and than that squid-jedi was killed after two attacks already... what was the use of bringing extra jedi in the picture than?

Also, if he just got word he was the sith lord, why didn't Mace summon every possible Jedi that was available? I mean, there have to be more than 4 free, right?

The first Master, Agen Kolar I think, was actually facing the other way. I mean, Palpatine leaps in front of him, and Kolar performs a turning action as if he was looking BACK to Palpatine.

Guess Palpatine didn't need to be uber to take out guys like that.

cause they're IDIOTS!

Yup.

some guy in eu is trying to use their "freezing" before dying as an excuse for maul's death. He says they are supposed to be the greatest swordsmen in the counsil, and they froze. they arent no such thing. their idots.

Freezing? WTH?

stopping and just letting the guy kill them like maul did in episode I

?

He's talking about when Maul basically takes a smoke break while Obi-Wan jumps out of the gigantic hole, flips over him, gets Qui-Gon's lightsaber and cuts him in half.

What about the freezing then?

like when a cop yells at you to freeze, he doesnt mean to turn into a block of ice, he means hold still...

Ah... so that is the Jedi way now... Weird.

yea. the jedi are kinda like cops with super powers, right?

They like superdonuts?

mmm. big or extra sweet?

Super everything.

YAY! i wonder what a bakers dozen costs.

Prolly works in the Jedi Temple.

mmmm. now i need donuts...

Then become a Jedi. Or a cop.

Originally posted by Lord Knightfa11
like when a cop yells at you to freeze, he doesnt mean to turn into a block of ice, he means hold still...
Except if you are The Mask.

The only thing I can imagine is that Lucas liked the shot of four Jedi with ignited lightsabres so he put it in and than realised that they couldn't do a fight that way.
Wasn't it on the dvd that it is said that they suddently wouldn't do it with stuntmen and that that old guy needed to learn it all really quickly?

That's because Lucas decided last minute that he wanted to shoot it with close ups.

but I do not understand that... they are showing they can use stuntpeople and paste faces of actors over it. So why couldn't they do that also now?

Don't ask me.

cause they're IDIOTS!

second time i have had to say that in this thread.

You keep repeating yourself.

because im an--
wait a minute

Can I say it?