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Which artist/s art are you not a big fan of

As of late for me i'm not a big fan of Howard Chaykin art.

Steve Dillon sucks, I can't believe he gets paid for drawing.

I used to like Liefield until I got beyond 13, shame he never did.
X-men #91 drawn by Andrew Robinson and Dan Panosian is probably the worst art I have ever seen in a comic

Originally posted by Endrict Nuul
Steve Dillon sucks, I can't believe he gets paid for drawing.
He's the reason I dont read wolverine:Origins. His artwork is hideous but the worst gotta be Liefield.

Rob Liefeld is the Worst
http://comicartcommunity.com/gallery/details.php?image_id=21250&sessionid=42edb74a1a6c8a797fe6e6c8ecc18990
http://comicartcommunity.com/gallery/details.php?image_id=14014
http://comicartcommunity.com/gallery/details.php?image_id=13529
http://comicartcommunity.com/gallery/details.php?image_id=6086

Originally posted by Priest
Rob Liefeld is the Worst
http://comicartcommunity.com/gallery/details.php?image_id=21250&sessionid=42edb74a1a6c8a797fe6e6c8ecc18990
http://comicartcommunity.com/gallery/details.php?image_id=14014
http://comicartcommunity.com/gallery/details.php?image_id=13529
http://comicartcommunity.com/gallery/details.php?image_id=6086

Coming from him, all but the last one are pretty good. I have seen FAR worse scans that he has drawn to use against him where his proportions are so far from right that it makes me cringe. Those (except the last one) are decent, again coming from him.

Landronn......never got the Kirby-esc feel, i almost stopped getting cable because of him

Originally posted by Blair Wind
Coming from him, all but the last one are pretty good. I have seen FAR worse scans that he has drawn to use against him where his proportions are so far from right that it makes me cringe. Those (except the last one) are decent, again coming from him.
Agreed, but their still bad compared to other artists.
check out how Wonder Girl in the 3rd cover has a penis.

For me the most important thing in a comic is the art the then 2nd it's the story. This is why I can't stand crossovers most of the time because the art is inconsistent by a big margin.

Scott McDaniel/Andy Owens -- the penciller/inker for "Countdown: Arena"...

The story was great, -- but the art was garbage. ermm

Originally posted by Endrict Nuul
For me the most important thing in a comic is the art the then 2nd it's the story. This is why I can't stand crossovers most of the time because the art is inconsistent by a big margin.

Thats how I feel. Which is why I could never get into DC comics before. Their artists were terrible. A lot of their recent artists are much, much better. Taken a lot of them perfected their art at Marvel.

i think it's universally accepted that liefeld is a crap artist well past his prime we needn't mention him further, lest this become another liefeld sucks thread.

personally, i don't like yu's work in new avengers. i thought secret invasion looked quite good, but some of the crap in the last arc in new avengers just made me want to poop.

Some guy named Immonen did Superman Comics a while back.


I'm not saying the guy can't draw, but he shouldn't be drawing Super hero comics.

People didn't have noses and it just looked disturbing.

stuart immonen's art is some of my favorite. never saw it in superman, and didn't much like it in thor but his style is definitely the kind of not-drastically-realistic stuff i appreciate.

And to make matters even worst....They will add a super star artist like Turner on the cover just to get sales, but the interior art sucks.....This really ticks me off.

Yeah, lets keep Liefeld outta this thread.

Adam Kubert anyone?

Liefield. Quitely.

It used to be Erik Larsen....but then he was dethroned by Liefeld.

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
It used to be Erik Larsen....but then he was dethroned by Liefeld. Erik is a fine artist.

Originally posted by llagrok
Adam Kubert anyone?


I like Adam and Andy, but Joe on the other hand.......

Frank Quitely's art, frankly, disgusts me. All of his characters are absolutely hideous to behold, from their puffed up lips to oversized chins and tiny eyes and blotched noses. Ugh. Makes me want to throw up every time I see something from The Authority or All-Star Superman or JLA: Earth 2. Just, blech. Terrible artist.

Originally posted by cyberborg84
Frank Quitely's art, frankly, disgusts me. All of his characters are absolutely hideous to behold, from their puffed up lips to oversized chins and tiny eyes and blotched noses. Ugh. Makes me want to throw up every time I see something from The Authority or All-Star Superman or JLA: Earth 2. Just, blech. Terrible artist.

co-signed, though not quite as vehemently.

Originally posted by Endrict Nuul
Steve Dillon sucks, I can't believe he gets paid for drawing.

I actually don't mind his art also i've seen alot worst.

Originally posted by Kazenji
I actually don't mind his art also i've seen alot worst.

Yeah, me too. I enjoyed his work on Preacher and as a result didn't really warm to 'Ancient History' because they changed the artist to Ezquerra. Don't get me wrong on that I like Ezquerra's work but with Preacher it just disrupted the continuity for me.

I've also read a Punisher vs Bullseye comic he did the artwork for and that turned out fine. The main concern I have with his work is that his facial structures all kind of look the same so 3 or 4 different characters in a scene (barring minor differences) kind of look the same.

The one that i found alot worst was John Buscema work on "The Gehenna stone affair". The Story was good its just his artwork that was meh.

Originally posted by cyberborg84
Frank Quitely's art, frankly, disgusts me. All of his characters are absolutely hideous to behold, from their puffed up lips to oversized chins and tiny eyes and blotched noses. Ugh. Makes me want to throw up every time I see something from The Authority or All-Star Superman or JLA: Earth 2. Just, blech. Terrible artist.

I like it in ASSuperman. Gives a sort of PreCrisis feel to the stories.

Can't stand it in Authority though.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
I like it in ASSuperman. Gives a sort of PreCrisis feel to the stories.

Can't stand it in Authority though. I'ze just gonna say the same thing.

For me,
Quitely's art is either really good, or really bad -- there's not much of a grey area with him. ermm

Originally posted by Priest
Rob Liefeld is the Worst
http://comicartcommunity.com/gallery/details.php?image_id=21250&sessionid=42edb74a1a6c8a797fe6e6c8ecc18990
http://comicartcommunity.com/gallery/details.php?image_id=14014
http://comicartcommunity.com/gallery/details.php?image_id=13529
http://comicartcommunity.com/gallery/details.php?image_id=6086

Liefeld is far from the worst artist in the comic book industry.

Not saying he's good though...

Who's the guy that drew the Old Batman vs Superman fight in an alternate reality?

Batman won, but the art looked like a dirty old nutsack.

Chris Cross (the artist..not the group) drawing Wonder Woman...Yesh!

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Who's the guy that drew the Old Batman vs Superman fight in an alternate reality?

Batman won, but the art looked like a dirty old nutsack.

Frank Miller.

who was the guy who did Countdown Arena? i loved the comic, loved the covers. but damnit the art burned my eyes after awhile. it had its moments but damnit i wish someone else did it.

Originally posted by SevenShackles
who was the guy who did Countdown Arena?

Scott McDaniel and Andy Owens

Originally posted by Endrict Nuul
I like Adam and Andy, but Joe on the other hand.......

I like them both too. Andy more so than Adam. Joe I really dont care about, he really doesnt do much these days.

There was this guy who did art for a few issue of JLA I don't remember his name (I'll check when I get home) but for some reason he thought that humanbeings have bulbous 'Squidward' type heads and that noses were sufficiently vestigial that they didn't need to be drawn. It also seemed that he took personal offense to straight lines.

I find a lot of the art in the various 30 Days Of Night series to be amatuer-looking, despite being painted.
Not much point in picking on old artists - printing & various techniques have improved through the decades. Still, I was never a fan of Steve Ditko.

Frank Miller was mentioned earlier. I use to love his work, especially when Klaus Janson inked over him. But he's incapable of drawing anything but a Sin City-type comic these days, and even some of them his style is getting tired.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
There was this guy who did art for a few issue of JLA I don't remember his name (I'll check when I get home) but for some reason he thought that humanbeings have bulbous 'Squidward' type heads and that noses were sufficiently vestigial that they didn't need to be drawn. It also seemed that he took personal offense to straight lines.

I was wrong about the noses. He's not good at noses though:

http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii236/Syms_Photos/th_JLA_93_Pyrate-DCP_pg02.jpg http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii236/Syms_Photos/th_JLA_93_Pyrate-DCP_pg05.jpg http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii236/Syms_Photos/th_JLA_93_Pyrate-DCP_pg22.jpg

Personally I wonder if he's ever met a real human being.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
I was wrong about the noses. He's not good at noses though:

http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii236/Syms_Photos/th_JLA_93_Pyrate-DCP_pg02.jpg http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii236/Syms_Photos/th_JLA_93_Pyrate-DCP_pg05.jpg http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii236/Syms_Photos/th_JLA_93_Pyrate-DCP_pg22.jpg

Personally I wonder if he's ever met a real human being.

I don't think I've ever seen Wonder Woman looking ugly.
The way he draws her, she looks like a saggy-faced Edith Bunker.

Liefield is worst, hands-down, just for reputation as well as being unable to draw any decent proportion.

I don't like Steve Dillon's either, it completely put me off Wolverine Origins, and I'm getting tired of Frank Miller's Sin-City style art which is all he's capable of drawing these days. His old art was very good.

And I have to be in the right mood for Tim Sale's work (although in small doses it's fantastic).

Originally posted by Etrigan
Liefield is worst, hands-down, just for reputation as well as being unable to draw any decent proportion.

I don't like Steve Dillon's either, it completely put me off Wolverine Origins, and I'm getting tired of Frank Miller's Sin-City style art which is all he's capable of drawing these days. His old art was very good.

And I have to be in the right mood for Tim Sale's work (although in small doses it's fantastic).

Liefeld isn't the worst artist in the comic industry. That's pushing it. He's bad, but not that bad.

Well, I can't think of anybody who I dislike more.

Originally posted by roughrider
I don't think I've ever seen Wonder Woman looking ugly.

http://reporter.blogs.com/risky/images/3466_180x270.jpg

Punisher: War Journal... the art (especially Civil War stuff) made me drop the series.

Which is saying something, considering all I did was read the issues posted in the Civil War Scans thread.

Originally posted by Cerpin Taxt
http://reporter.blogs.com/risky/images/3466_180x270.jpg



Alex Ross is a great artist, but he can't draw women for shit.

Originally posted by Cerpin Taxt
http://reporter.blogs.com/risky/images/3466_180x270.jpg Thats a drag queen.

Ross' artwork reminds me of Norman Rockwell's.

Originally posted by batdude123


Alex Ross is a great artist, but he can't draw women for shit.
People don't realize how much Ross has improved since Kingdom Come. His figures are less bloated and the women no longer look like pre-op transsexuals.

http://www.superpouvoir.com/Team/Marv/Justice_League_of_America_12_800x600.jpg

True. Wonder Woman and Black Canary look much better there.

Yeah, now they look post op transsexuals

Lulz. He's never going to be Adam Hughes or anything but it's still an improvement.

Overall, I think Ross is the more talented "artist," but Hughes is a better comic book artist.

And he draws women better.

It should be noted that Ross deliberately went for a less pretty, more manly WW in Kingdom Come. Read it in the annotations (they're floating around the web somewhere), where its described how he disagrees with the notion of a beautiful, supermodelesque WW, prefering the more muscular version as a thematically better fit.

Again, I'll have to look at 'em, but thats the reasoning he used to explain the design choice.

That said, I'll agree that there are plenty of inferior artists to Ross who are just plain better comic book artists.

I never noticed how dominatrix-y Wonder Woman looked in that photo perched atop Flash like that.

is it me or do most of Alex Ross's characters have basically the same face?

Originally posted by Master-Borg
is it me or do most of Alex Ross's characters have basically the same face?
I find that to be a pretty common weak point in comic book art. Jim Lee is the worst at it.

Alex Ross gets a bit too much flak for his women. I think Wonder Woman in Kingdom Come looked great (modeled after Rita Hayworth), and Gwen Stacy in Marvels looked wonderful. But, I'll grant you he goes for a look that appears too butch, or tough sometimes.

Originally posted by Master-Borg
is it me or do most of Alex Ross's characters have basically the same face?

You can say that about anybody in the comic industry.

Originally posted by Cerpin Taxt
I find that to be a pretty common weak point in comic book art. Jim Lee is the worst at it.

Michael Turner is pretty bad too.

In fact, I'd even say he's worse.

Originally posted by batdude123
Liefeld isn't the worst artist in the comic industry. That's pushing it. He's bad, but not that bad.

Yea he's bad but on the other he did create deadpool i suppose the good and bad both weigh out the same....




I liked Ariel Olivetti's art alot better then howard chaykin work which now he is currently doing War journal art.... meh i shall continue getting the series and endure it.

I HATE Alex Ross' art. It totally turned me off from "Kingdom Come."

But that's just me. I like Quitely, so it's one of those things where you take it or leave it.

Originally posted by tjcoady
I HATE Alex Ross' art. It totally turned me off from "Kingdom Come."

But that's just me. I like Quitely, so it's one of those things where you take it or leave it.


Wow...that's a really out there viewpoint.
But, you're welcome to your opinion.

I don't like the artwork that David Lloyd did on V for Vendetta either, very discoloured and bland-looking.

My favourite artist is probably either Jim Lee or Bryan Hitch.

NA 1 OF THE RECENT GHOST RIDER ARTISTS WAS THE SHITTEST THING IV EVER SEEN ND THE DEFENDERS ARTIST FROM ABOUT 10 YEARS AGO SORRY 4 NO NAMES

Originally posted by Kazenji
Which artist/s art are you not a big fan of

As of late for me i'm not a big fan of Howard Chaykin art.


I do not mean to demean anyone's opinions in anyway, so please nobody take it that way.


But I disagree with most opinions here. Just because an artist doesn't depict a human or animal in a realistic manner does not make him or her a bad artist.



Angel Medina is one if the most celebrated artists in mainstream comic book art, yet his proportions and detail are exxagerated to such extremes. Yet everyone loves him.



Exxageration or distortion of proportions or detail doesn't make art bad. Every artist has a style, and he or she makes choices for thier own reasons.


I used to hate Angel Medina's work, but now I've grown to love it. I understand him so much better than I did when I was younger. If you look up the Mannerist era in European Art, you will see that there is an abundance of exxageration and distortion, yet this is considered one of the greatest revolutionary movements in art history.



As long as an artist can make something dynamic, then he or she is okay in my book.



Everyone loves Lucifer Morningstar, but I haven't heard anyone complain about the art. In my opinion, it's wayyy too simplistic, and my little sister can draw more realistic than the artist here could.


However, at the same time, the art is beautiful.




So All I am asking is that if you seek to take the role of "art critic", try to understand what the artist is actually doing. This idea that art has to look "real" is a very amature and outdated perspective.

Try to look deeper into what's going on.

Originally posted by LatinoStallion
So All I am asking is that if you seek to take the role of "art critic", try to understand what the artist is actually doing. This idea that art has to look "real" is a very amature and outdated perspective.

Try to look deeper into what's going on.

The word "real" was not used a single time in his post. You're projecting.

Also, what is the deeper meaning of this?
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii236/Syms_Photos/JLA_93_Pyrate-DCP_pg22.jpg

Or this?
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c1/dantezinferno/LiefieldsCaptainAmerica.jpg

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
The word "real" was not used a single time in his post. You're projecting.


My mistake. I assumed that might have been an issue because I hear it so often.




Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Also, what is the deeper meaning of this?
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii236/Syms_Photos/JLA_93_Pyrate-DCP_pg22.jpg

Or this?
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c1/dantezinferno/LiefieldsCaptainAmerica.jpg





I didn't say "deeper" meaning. I said every artist has a different style. Sometimes an artist focuses more on line than color, other times an artist focuses more on arrangment of shapes than connection between line, and etc.etc.

That doesn't mean you have to like it.

But many assume that because an artist exxagerates features or proportions, or whatever, that he or she doesn't know how to draw. That may not always be the case. Often, very often, these artists draw that way on purpose.

Now, I know it the comic book world, that can be a problem, because the fanbase is usually younger, and as a reader, you naturally care more about the narrative and illustration of the story, than the artist's desire to experiment with the formalism.


The Captain America pic is definately out of proportion, and annoyingly so, but if that is how the artist chooses to represent characters, than its his/her right, and it is Marvel who is responsible for publishing the work. Marvel must have a reason for allowing artists too express themselves in that way.


Look up Angel Medina's work. Tell me what you think.

But....Sorry...I will clarify that I am not crazy about those two works posted. Just my preference.



The Captain America has bad proportion, but the colorist did a great job, and the penciler obviously knows how to draw faces and bodies, but for whatever reason he blew the proportions out of control.


Michelangelo did the same thing towards the Mannerist period *



The penciller may have created a work which is not satisfiable, but that does not render him a "bad artist".

Originally posted by LatinoStallion
The penciller may have created a work which is not satisfiable, but that does not render him a "bad artist". http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a107/BSDQ/durkseid.gif

Truth be told, I don't mind exxageration at all. One of my favorite artists happens to be Mike Mignola, who is far from realistic when he draws Hellboy. Even in Seed of Destruction, his least cartoony arc, there's still plenty of "unrealistic" style. However, said style doesn't offend my sensibilities and the way I look at a person.

Someone like Frank Quitely, on the other hand, does. I despise him solely for the way he specifically draws humans, from bodily build to facial features. I geniunely wish Bryan Hitch could've kept doing the art on the Authority when Millar came aboard. The only time that Quitely's work hasn't made me want to puke and then tear apart the comic I was reading was his work on New X-Men with Grant Morrison. That was, IMO, his best work and least offensive looking when compared to what else he's done.

Originally posted by cyberborg84
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a107/BSDQ/durkseid.gif

Truth be told, I don't mind exxageration at all. One of my favorite artists happens to be Mike Mignola, who is far from realistic when he draws Hellboy. Even in Seed of Destruction, his least cartoony arc, there's still plenty of "unrealistic" style. However, said style doesn't offend my sensibilities and the way I look at a person.

Someone like Frank Quitely, on the other hand, does. I despise him solely for the way he specifically draws humans, from bodily build to facial features. I geniunely wish Bryan Hitch could've kept doing the art on the Authority when Millar came aboard. The only time that Quitely's work hasn't made me want to puke and then tear apart the comic I was reading was his work on New X-Men with Grant Morrison. That was, IMO, his best work and least offensive looking when compared to what else he's done.


You make a good argument. I am not going to try to refute you, because your opinion is your own and right to have.

Alex Ross, in my opinion, is a great artist, but it annoys me when they always employ him for a special DC project. The problem I have with DC employing him is that his work is too realistic.

It takes away from the whole comic book feel sometimes. The costumes look so spandex like, and everything looks too "classic". It becomes harder to take the story seriously. That's just me.




So far, Angel Medina, Phillip Tan, Greg Capullo, and Jim Starlin are like my favorite artists.

Oh yeah and whoever the artist was who did Negation. Hellz yeah

Glen Fabry. my god he sucks. I'm almost glad that The Target never got past the first issue (yet), so i don't have to see his awful depictions of daredevil and bullseye anymore

Originally posted by HueyFreeman
Thats a drag queen. no it's an amazon. this is a good picture because she actually looks tough in it.

I have to cosign with Coady on Alex R....He does Great covers,but his interior art is just bleh to me.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
The word "real" was not used a single time in his post. You're projecting.

Also, what is the deeper meaning of this?
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii236/Syms_Photos/JLA_93_Pyrate-DCP_pg22.jpg

Or this?
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c1/dantezinferno/LiefieldsCaptainAmerica.jpg That anyone can be a comic book artist. Truly. none

Originally posted by Martian_mind
I have to cosign with Coady on Alex R....He does Great covers,but his interior art is just bleh to me.

The interior art is drawn just like the covers.

Originally posted by Kazenji
Which artist/s art are you not a big fan of

As of late for me i'm not a big fan of Howard Chaykin art.

Me neither.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=436756&highlight=Chaykin+forumid%3A95

Originally posted by fredstawill
NA 1 OF THE RECENT GHOST RIDER ARTISTS WAS THE SHITTEST THING IV EVER SEEN

which ones are you thinking of ?

The ones they have for the new series or them garth ennis stories

If its the garth ennis ones that art is good same with the new series.

Originally posted by Galan007

The interior art is drawn just like the covers.

I mean like the JSA covers,when he has a lone character.When he does whole panels they tend to look terrible(IMO)

Originally posted by Kazenji
Which artist/s art are you not a big fan of

As of late for me i'm not a big fan of Howard Chaykin art.

Lol I was looking for this thead so I could complain about this artist and somebody beat me to it.

I knew I hated the artist but I didn't know what his name was coincedently im not the only one.

There was a fill in artist in Cable and Deadpool who did an issue or two and he was a BAD Liefeld clone. That's right, a pale imitation of Liefeld! I forget his name but he has to be one of the worst... or maybe that guy Brett Booth.

And I also hate Romita Jr's work, it is just so flat an uninspired, no sense of depth to it at all.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Lol I was looking for this thead so I could complain about this artist and somebody beat me to it.

I knew I hated the artist but I didn't know what his name was coincedently im not the only one.

I agree that his current work is awful but I think you should read the Scorpio Connection. Chaykin's art in that is fantastic, I think he really needs to have the right person colouring his work for it to work properly.

I might have to check his art in the Scorpio Connection because "fantatic" is not a word I use to describe that thing he calls drawing. I recently picked up the most recent Punisher:War Journal and the cover was pretty cool(Domino and 2 other girls). Once I opened it, I put it down. It was horrible.

Angel Medina is my least favourite artist. Just cannot stand his overly cartoony and retarded drawings.

He ruined the climactic issue of the 'Blood and Thunder' storyline (Warlock & IW 25) where Odin looked like freaking Santa Claus and Thanos looked like a giant ape, in some shots. The art in all of the other related issues were amazing...but why they chose this guy to draw the most important and explosive issue of the story was just beyond me.

He also drew Hulk 444 and 445 which were part of the 'Onslaught' crossover, where his work was utterly atrocious. Hulk looked like a giant obese slob of green shit...not to mention Storm had fangs. FANGS!!!

Other artists I don't care for...Alex Maleev. His New Avengers issues look like rough sketches...not very pleasing to the eye.

Also, I was very unimpressed with the work of Renato Arlem in 'Annihilation: Silver Surfer'...mostly due to his work on Thanos and Galactus. For Thanos, I like the look that Jim Starlin and Ron Lim have created: Large black hollow eyes, (with an occasional twinkle or red dot when emphasizing a point or expressing rage), small raised nose, and Skrullish-looking chin. Arlem drew him as a normal-looking, darkskinned human being...rather than an alien. Plus he had all white eyes, which I also couldn't stand.

I guess I'm really picky when it comes to Thanos...as he's one of my favourite characters. Maybe I shouldn't be too hard on Arlem's overall artistic ability, as the rest of the characters and scenes were drawn just fine...and I really haven't seen any of this other work, but he sucked big-time when it came to drawing Thanos. That of course wasn't nearly as bad as John Romita Jr's outrageous depiction of Thanos in that Mangog story (Thor 21-25) where he looked so fricken obese that it was laughable, (he did the same thing to Zuras in 'Eternals' a couple of years ago). Of course that doesn't mean I hate the artist...cause obviously he's one of the best and most accomplished out there, but his drawing of Thanos was just terrible.

Thankfully, Andrea DeVito's interpretation of Thanos in 'Annihilation' was superb - I dare say even better than Starlin and Lim!

i can cosign the alex ross stuff to a degree... i don't think he does action particularly well, and i've never been a fan of his women...

chaykin, to me, always seemed like a lesser kevin maguire...

Dave Gibbons : he draws very well but his art is too... cold.