Unicron vs Dreaming Celestial
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golem370
Who wins?
Unicron- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unicron
Knowsbleed33
Tiamut easily I think.
A better fight might be Unicron vs. Ego.
guy222
Tiamut, the Dreaming Celestial FTW
Alucard25
Which Unicron comic or cartoon theres a big difference in power,Comic Unicron wins although the Cartoon would lose badly.
psycho gundam
in the british transformers comics unicron was a god of evil, only able to possibly defeated by his "brother" primus: the god of light.
this was adopted by the rest of the series as a whole as the story of unicron so, it's canon.
tiamut lacks the matrix of autobot leadership (aka the allspark or primus's essence) , but being a celestial and all, he may bee able to replicate the might of primus
Knowsbleed33
Originally posted by psycho gundam
in the british transformers comics unicron was a god of evil, only able to possibly defeated by his "brother" primus: the god of light.
this was adopted by the rest of the series as a whole as the story of unicron so, it's canon.
tiamut lacks the matrix of autobot leadership (aka the allspark or primus's essence) , but being a celestial and all, he may bee able to replicate the might of primus
Celestials are generally above all that "Good vs. Evil" trivia.
psycho gundam
sure but in the (marvel)transformers universe, they were the sole beings
for billions of years before any animal life started, like galactus.
unicron spent his time feeding on the universe itself, dark matter and all
until primus created the cybertronians billions of years later to oppose him. and only the spark of primus himself (the matrix) could harm him.
LORD B
unicron ftw
unicron was destroying universes,also the original unicron destroyed all of creation.
Knowsbleed33
Hmmm, interesting. I only remember Unicron from the 1980's Transformers cartoon movie. (Voiced by Leonard Nimoy
)
LORD B
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Hmmm, interesting. I only remember Unicron from the 1980's Transformers cartoon movie. (Voiced by Leonard Nimoy
)
i thought he was voiced by orsen wells?he was in the movie anyway.
Knowsbleed33
Originally posted by LORD B
i thought he was voiced by orsen wells?he was in the movie anyway.
Goodness, you're right. Leonard Nimoy was the voice of Galvatron.
LORD B
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Goodness, you're right. Leonard Nimoy was the voice of Galvatron.
really i didnt know that.
who voiced star scream,was it the same guy who did cobra commander in gi joe?
Knowsbleed33
Originally posted by LORD B
who voiced star scream,was it the same guy who did cobra commander in gi joe?
Yes indeed.
psycho gundam
and judd nelson(the dirtbag from the breakfast club) voiced hot rod.
$%^^ing hotrod
Alucard25
Originally posted by LORD B
really i didnt know that.
who voiced star scream,was it the same guy who did cobra commander in gi joe?
Yeah Chris Latta was the voice of Starscream and Cobra Commander.
golem370
Comic Book Unicron
Galan007
Unicron.
In his heyday,
Unicron was pretty much the Transformer-U's version of Anti-Monitor, imo.
Avlon
Unicron eats celestial.
Yum.
Mr Master
Originally posted by LORD B
unicron was destroying universes,
also the original unicron destroyed all of creation.
Not too sure about that friend B.
Unicron has never destroyed all of creation in Marvel,
Uni did take out the Transformers' universe though,
which to them, was all of creation perhaps, so I guess if you mean it that way, it's cool.
Lord Feron
Idk just something about Unicron being a machine and A celetial being a cosmic being. I just theink celest > unicron idk but i don't know much about unicron except that transformers movie. Like imagine a bigass sentinel....
Alucard25
Comic Unicron was also cosmic being who existed before the current Transformer Universe and had destroyed the previous one.The Unicron from the movie was a lot weaker and was created by a scientist named Primacon to destroy the universe and was just a giant robot and not a God.Really the only thing shown capable of destroying Unicron was the Creation Matrix which holds the essence and power of Primus who is Unicrons twin.
Dark-Jaxx
And I think Unicron in terms of raw power is even stronger than Primus(could be wrong though).
Hazsekswthurmom
Unicron stomps
Galan007
Originally posted by Mr Master
Not too sure about that friend B.
Unicron has never destroyed all of creation in Marvel,
Uni did take out the Transformers' universe though,
which to them, was all of creation perhaps, so I guess if you mean it that way, it's cool. The 'pre-retcon' Transformers Universe, , could have easily been seen as the 'canon' Marvel-verse... if only for a short while..
I say this because not only did Transformers used to be a Marvel publication, but in one of the first issues , Spider-Man appeared throughout the whole issue:
http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj172/galan007_pics/th_tformers_spidey.jpg
*shrugs*
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Heck,
back then Primus' destiny was to become one with the "Omniversal Matrix":
http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj172/galan007_pics/th_tformers_omni1.jpg
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Anywho, here's some Unicron...
"Every planet, whole Galaxies, even the stuff of space itself -- gone, destroyed, consumed!"
After Unicron awoke from his slumber to find a new Universe in the old one's place...
"... He did not question why -- he simply began to destroy it all over again":
http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj172/galan007_pics/th_unicron1.jpg http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj172/galan007_pics/th_unicron2.jpghttp://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj172/galan007_pics/th_unicron3.jpg
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Don't really care much about the whole "what universe did he really destroy" argument... but Unicron does take this, imo.
Avlon
Originally posted by Galan007
The 'pre-retcon' Transformers Universe, , could have easily been seen as the 'canon' Marvel-verse... if only for a short while..
I say this because not only did Transformers used to be a Marvel publication, but in one of the first issues , Spider-Man appeared throughout the whole issue:
http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj172/galan007_pics/th_tformers_spidey.jpg
*shrugs*
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Heck,
back then Primus' destiny was to become one with the "Omniversal Matrix":
http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj172/galan007_pics/th_tformers_omni1.jpg
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Anywho, here's some Unicron...
"Every planet, whole Galaxies, even the stuff of space itself -- gone, destroyed, consumed!"
After Unicron awoke from his slumber to find a new Universe in the old one's place...
"... He did not question why -- he simply began to destroy it all over again":
http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj172/galan007_pics/th_unicron1.jpg http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj172/galan007_pics/th_unicron2.jpghttp://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj172/galan007_pics/th_unicron3.jpg
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Don't really care much about the whole "what universe did he really destroy" argument... but Unicron does take this, imo.
To add to that...
Here's Ratchet in the savage land...directly PRIOR to an avengers arc (stated on the lower left of the scan.)
http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/981/issue8page01eh6.th.jpg
Shockwave in the savage land, in which it is stated that in present day, Ka-zar lives there.
http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/5570/issue4page10rt2.th.jpg
Circuit breaker also met with the Beyonder.
Mr Master
Originally posted by Mr Master
Uni did take out the Transformers' universe though
Like I said good friend, I know Unicron destroyed the Transformers Universe,
but as we know, that Universe is one of an infinite amount when it belonged to Marvel.
There is no evidence of Unicron taking out anything more than the Transformers reality,
I agree, he defitemly took put the T-verse,
but there is no bio that even confirms that a historical event within Marvel.
But that aside,
it's not surprising to me at all that Spiderman or other cameo's have been made,
whether it was Circuit Breaker in Secret Wars or whatever,
cats make appearances within other universes all the time.
psycho gundam
death's head (the original) still retains transformers stuff in his bio to this day so it is canon.
unicron for the win, unless the celestials have a spare matrix of leadership......you never know.
King Kandy
It will be a mighty battle, whoever wins. Tiamut may be able to give Uni as good of a fight as Primus did.
Galan007
Originally posted by psycho gundam
death's head (the original) still retains transformers stuff in his bio to this day so it is canon.
Mr Master
Originally posted by psycho gundam
death's head (the original) still retains transformers stuff in his bio to this day so it is canon.
I have his bio, I'll read it momentarily,
but I don't doubt Unicron destroying the Transformers Universe at all,
I'm sure he did it withIN Marvel,
but it was just the T-verse though,
not the Marvel Multiverse let-alone the Omniverse (all creation/existence/reality)
TricksterPriest
Originally posted by King Kandy
It will be a mighty battle, whoever wins. Tiamut may be able to give Uni as good of a fight as Primus did.
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Did you not read the panels? Unicron devoured a universe at the very least. The entire celestial host isn't capable of that level of power.
psycho gundam
Originally posted by Mr Master
I have his bio, I'll read it momentarily,
but I don't doubt Unicron destroying the Transformers Universe at all,
I'm sure he did it withIN Marvel,
but it was just the T-verse though,
not the Marvel Multiverse let-alone the Omniverse (all creation/existence/reality) he only devoured the pre-current "T-verse", it was that destruction that primus wanted to prevent the newborn universe from. so yeah, it is only relegated to their universe as it's natural life cycle.
King Kandy
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
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Did you not read the panels? Unicron devoured a universe at the very least. The entire celestial host isn't capable of that level of power.
Nah, Franklin Richards can create pocket universes and he isn't even Celestial level yet. Tiamut is one of the strongest celestials. Unicron destroys the universe over a long time period, destroying planets one by one.
Galan007
Originally posted by King Kandy
Unicron destroys the universe over a long time period, destroying planets one by one. I'd like to know how you gathered this?
Dark-Jaxx
Originally posted by King Kandy
Nah, Franklin Richards can create pocket universes and he isn't even Celestial level yet. Tiamut is one of the strongest celestials. Unicron destroys the universe over a long time period, destroying planets one by one. POCKET verses.
Long period of time? Where'd you get that conclusion?
King Kandy
Originally posted by Galan007
I'd like to know how you gathered this?
Because the on panel artwork shows him destroying individual planets with his sword, just as he did later on when he ate planets one at a time.
Galan007
Originally posted by King Kandy
Because the on panel artwork shows him destroying individual planets with his sword, just as he did later on when he ate planets one at a time. Ahhh, so he consumed the "stuff of space", with a sword, eh? srsly
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