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mono a mono out side of earth's orbit

"mono" you may want to get that looked at.

Unicron, easily.

I wouldn't say easily. They both can destroy the universe, and they both absorb planets one by one.

well, galactus eats only life-possible planets and have to be eaten with his instruments so as not to lose any vital energy.

unicron on the other hand eats planets like the cookie monster, he gets close enough for his gravitational field to ravage the planet then rips into it. he can eat any matter, at any size (even solid iron asteroids)due to his ability to smash it apart.
it is said that he doesn't need to eat planets for sustenance, he just does so because he hates all life forms and order.

i'm gueesing if he were to eat cybertron, he would be totaly free of destruction as the matrix of leadership whould be lost.

Originally posted by King Kandy
I wouldn't say easily. They both can destroy the universe, and they both absorb planets one by one. I would say that in 95% of Galactus's appearances, he seems like he would have trouble destroying a sun, let alone a universe

I mean, the guy is constantly flustered by earthlings

Well Unicron destroyed the universe over time... as we see him in transformers he did it one planet at a time, over an astoundingly long period of time. Galactus could accomplish the same. Also, don't forget that Galactus has the UN.

Originally posted by King Kandy
I wouldn't say easily. They both can destroy the universe, and they both absorb planets one by one. Who's actually destroyed a Universe under their own power, and who hasn't?

Originally posted by psycho gundam
well, galactus eats only life-possible planets and have to be eaten with his instruments so as not to lose any vital energy.

unicron on the other hand eats planets like the cookie monster, he gets close enough for his gravitational field to ravage the planet then rips into it. he can eat any matter, at any size (even solid iron asteroids)due to his ability to smash it apart.
it is said that he doesn't need to eat planets for sustenance, he just does so because he hates all life forms and order.

i'm gueesing if he were to eat cybertron, he would be totaly free of destruction as the matrix of leadership whould be lost.

Galactus can absorb all kinds of energy as well, he just prefers life-sustaining planets because it gives him the biggest boast in power, And I have not seen anywhere where it says that Galactus deployes his elementary converter because his afraid of losing energy he does it because it is so much easier to have it do it then to begin doing it himself which he is fully capable of.

Originally posted by Galan007
Who's actually destroyed a Universe under their own power, and who hasn't?

Unicron didn't destroy with a snap of his fingers did he??? If I remember correct didn't he destroy it slowly by travelling through it and destroy anything along the path, a task Galactus could accomplishe as well if he wanted to destroy the universe.

A PIS free galctus wins

Originally posted by Utrigita
Unicron didn't destroy with a snap of his fingers did he??? If I remember correct didn't he destroy it slowly by travelling through it and destroy anything along the path, a task Galactus could accomplishe as well if he wanted to destroy the universe. I don't care about what Galactus 'might' be able to do, 'IF'...

Feat-wise,
Unicron is far superior.

Originally posted by Galan007
Who's actually destroyed a Universe under their own power, and who hasn't?
They both have the power to destroy the universe. Actually, I would say Galactus is superior in that regard since he can do it instantly but Unicron did it one planet at a time.

Originally posted by King Kandy
They both have the power to destroy the universe. Actually, I would say Galactus is superior in that regard since he can do it instantly Galactus has never come close to destroying a universe, without outside 'assistance'.

Nah, Galactus does have the UN.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Nah, Galactus does have the UN. Ridiculous, utterly. srsly

Why is it ridiculous? The UN can destroy the universe. Galactus owns it. He wins.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Why is it ridiculous? The UN can destroy the universe. Galactus owns it. He wins. ka-dur

Originally posted by Utrigita
Galactus can absorb all kinds of energy as well, he just prefers life-sustaining planets because it gives him the biggest boast in power, And I have not seen anywhere where it says that Galactus deployes his elementary converter because his afraid of losing energy he does it because it is so much easier to have it do it then to begin doing it himself which he is fully capable of. his converter helps him siphon the energies more efficiently/faster, and it reduces loss of energy.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
his converter helps him siphon the energies more efficiently/faster, and it reduces loss of energy.

Faster more efficiently but he doesn't do it to serve energy I can think of four on panel incident where he ravages the the planet in the scan without the use of tech probably because he didn't want to go through the work of setting it up, that's why Earths heroes have a tendense of winning against him he uses his time setting up the converter.

Originally posted by Galan007
I don't care about what Galactus 'might' be able to do, 'IF'...

Feat-wise,
Unicron is far superior.

And IF I might be so frank I don't care about his universal destroying crusade IF it was accomplishe by him traveling through it destroying it a bit at the time, It would be the same as placing SS above Tiamut, if SS travel through a universe and destroyed anything, but Tiamut haven't. thus feat-wise SS would be superior by your logic, IF i understand you correctly

Originally posted by Utrigita
And IF I might be so frank I don't care about his universal destroying crusade IF it was accomplishe by him traveling through it destroying it a bit at the time, It would be the same as placing SS above Tiamut, if SS travel through a universe and destroyed anything, but Tiamut haven't. thus feat-wise SS would be superior by your logic, IF i understand you correctly
"Every planet, whole Galaxies, even the stuff of space itself -- gone, destroyed, consumed":

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj172/galan007_pics/th_unicron1.jpg

Originally posted by Galan007
You mean Galaxies at a time?

"Every planet, whole Galaxies, even the stuff of space itself -- gone, destroyed, consumed":

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj172/galan007_pics/th_unicron1.jpg

No I mean slowly destroying it just like Unicron apparently did, and hence one could begin the old discussion about dead galaxies because if there is nothing left in the galaxy is it then difficult to destroy???

I'm just mainly against your "Unicron destroyed a universe = he wins" when he apparently didn't just do it with a something that would be called ease, had be destroyed it with ease from the beginning I would give the win to him but from what I know he travelled through the universe slowly destroying all in it. That's all.

oh, sorry i left this out...galactus's main reason for the energy converter is that like surfer's board, the converter allows him to eat a planet without using his own energies to do so.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
oh, sorry i left this out...galactus's main reason for the energy converter is that like surfer's board, the converter allows him to eat a planet without using his own energies to do so.

And will name again that often the converter is used a Plot device to slow down Galactus so that earths heroes can stop him.

Originally posted by Utrigita
No I mean slowly destroying it just like Unicron apparently did, and hence one could begin the old discussion about dead galaxies because if there is nothing left in the galaxy is it then difficult to destroy??? That's the thing,
there's nothing but personal opinion suggesting Unicron originally destroyed the Universe 'slowly'. srsly


Anyhow,
Unicron's first battle with Primus:

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff191/Galan_photos/th_unicron_universe.jpg

"As we battled, the Universe shook! Worlds were destroyed, Suns imploded"

well, originally galactus only had to feed one a century or so, nowadays it's in monthly intervals. he can't spare the energies when he is hungry.

Originally posted by Galan007
That's the thing,
there's nothing but personal opinion suggesting Unicron originally destroyed the Universe 'slowly'. srsly


Anyhow,
Unicron's first battle with Primus:

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff191/Galan_photos/th_unicron_universe.jpg

"As we battled, the Universe shook! Worlds were destroyed, Suns imploded"

is there anything but personal opinion to suggest he did it quickly?

anyhow Galactus battle with Mephisto.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Next.

I know everyone likes to bring this fight up, and well....here it is.

Galactus beating Mephesto in his own realm.
1. http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/3055/ssjd528cx.jpg
2. http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/7980/ssjd537rq.jpg
3. http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/5105/ssjd545jv.jpg
4. http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/5108/ssjd552bj.jpg
5. http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/3257/ssjd566zs.jpg
6. http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/8522/ssjd573qq.jpg
7. http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/4230/ssjd585gn.jpg
8. http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/7769/ssjd596qq.jpg
9. http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/4460/ssjd602nf.jpg
10. http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/1284/ssjd617ye.jpg

= Universal level of damage Planets Galaxies and the universe itself at stake etc.

Galactus vs Agamotto

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Here, Galactus fights Agamotto....in his own Realm.
Galactus fairs better, but he couldn't destroy him.
Thus, equaling a stalemate.

1. http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/5315/galactusagamatto14zi.jpg
2. http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/1715/galactusagamatto22xd.jpg
3. http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/3229/galactusagamatto33yc.jpg

Galactus causes some damage. Plus Agamotto was mad, nowhere did it say, he was about to destroy Galactus.(I've heard it before, and I want to set it straight here.)

4. http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/8461/galactusagamatto45va.jpg

This one is interesting, because Agamotto, sort of hints that he is essential to the multiverse, which would also make him multiversal.(lower left hand corner)Hmmm....

5. http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/5167/galactusagamatto57wn.jpg
6. http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/997/galactusagamatto60yj.jpg

Galactus saves Dr. Strange

7. http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/3966/galactusagamatto77tc.jpg

Now, we can't really say what the outcome would have been, because Galactus didn't look like he was trying really hard.
Plus he was also fighting an extremely powerful being.

= Mystic vibrations wreaking havoc in alternate dimensions.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
well, originally galactus only had to feed one a century or so, nowadays it's in monthly intervals. he can't spare the energies when he is hungry.

What do you mean by the last part of your post

Originally posted by Utrigita
is there anything but personal opinion to suggest he did it quickly?
= Universal level of damage Planets Galaxies and the universe itself at stake etc.

Galactus vs Agamotto

= Mystic vibrations wreaking havoc in alternate dimensions. lol.

http://img174.imageshack.us/my.php?image=explodycq5.jpg



Set in the G1 comic book continuity.

Originally posted by Galan007
lol.

May I ask what is funny Galan?? you showed me what sideeffects Unicron and Optimus Prime battle had. I showed you what Galactus side effect Galactus produced in two battles that he had, and I would like you too disprove my statements regarding the battles.

Originally posted by Galvaclaw
http://img174.imageshack.us/my.php?image=explodycq5.jpg



Set in the G1 comic book continuity.

Very impressive.

It's the narrator talking correct???

Originally posted by Utrigita
What do you mean by the last part of your post when he is in dire need of sustenance, he is too weak to use his remaining energies to convert an entire planet to energy with his own waining power.

Originally posted by Galvaclaw
http://img174.imageshack.us/my.php?image=explodycq5.jpg



Set in the G1 comic book continuity. I'ze just looking for that.

Originally posted by Utrigita
May I ask what is funny Galan?? you showed me what sideeffects Unicron and Optimus Prime battle had. I showed you what Galactus side effect Galactus produced in two battles that he had, and I would like you too disprove my statements regarding the battles. I saw your original post, -- "multiversal destruction."

Made me lol.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
when he is in dire need of sustenance, he is too weak to use his remaining energies to convert an entire planet to energy with his own waining power.

Where do you get that from if I might ask??? He was very hungry when he absorbed the Skrulls throne world and that was without the need of tech.

Originally posted by Galan007
I'ze just looking for that.

I saw your original post, -- "multiversal destruction."

Made me lol.

Understandable I misformulated it, which is the reason why it was edited.

btw would you disagree that a battle that causes damage to numerous alternate realities is a multiversal damaging battle???

Originally posted by Utrigita
Understandable I misformulated it, which is the reason why it was edited.

btw would you disagree that a battle that causes damage to numerous alternate realities is a multiversal damaging battle??? Unless you're affecting an infinite amount of Universes, then you aren't causing 'true' Multiversal damage.

Originally posted by Galan007
Unless you're affecting an infinite amount of Universes, then you aren't causing 'true' Multiversal damage.

A multiverse need not consist of an infinite number of universes.

It could consist of three, four, or fifty-two, for example.

The thing is, whatever power Unicron has in his robot form, it's nothing compared to his true form. If the robot is destroyed, he just reverts to his true form. And aside from the Matrix, there's no way to bring him down.

Originally posted by Soljer
A multiverse need not consist of an infinite number of universes.

It could consist of three, four, or fifty-two, for example. I'ze speaking in Marvel-terms. . Ergo, to cause 'true' multiversal damage, it only stands to reason that one would need to affect the entirety of said universes.

but DC's multiverse = infinite as well, according to Rip. *shrugs*

Originally posted by Utrigita
Very impressive.

It's the narrator talking correct???

The narrator is Vector Prime one of the original 13 Transformers.

It's accepted

Originally posted by Galan007
Unless you're affecting an infinite amount of Universes, then you aren't causing 'true' Multiversal damage.

I can see that but causing damage to more then a single universe at the time could imo count as a multiversal battle too.

Originally posted by Utrigita
I can see that but causing damage to more then a single universe at the time could imo count as a multiversal battle too. Yet it still wouldn't be 'true' multiversal damage.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TG4GaPcLgOs
ooohhhh shiiit...

Originally posted by Galan007
Yet it still wouldn't be 'true' multiversal damage.

No it wouldn't, but still as a battle that damaged more then a single universe but multiply universes unless we shall invent two universal battle.

Originally posted by Galan007

Galactus has never come close to destroying a universe,
without outside 'assistance'.
That's not really fair brother G,
you know it's not in Galactus' interest to destroy universes,
Eternity actaully needs each Galactus, and Galactus considers Eternity his father.

The whole point behind the Black Celestial arc was to show us what Galactus was capable of,
(it was a future-self of Galactus 616 after all)
without needing to present this capability through the normal under control 616 Galactus,
cause again,
it's simply not in his interest to do that, quite the contrary in fact,
as we know Galactus is part of the Cosmic Hierarchy,
and Galactus has always been there when it came to defending and preserving the Universe.

Unlike Unicron who was a rogue entity acting on his own behalf.

Galactus while not bound by entity or concept,
does follow protocol for the sake of Cosmic consonance,
one of those protocols is do not feed on more than one planet a month (basically speaking)

But when necessary,
Galactus has proven he can absorb and/or destroy far more than a Planet.



Who wins? No comment.

Just wanted to point that out about why Galactus doesn't go around killing universes.

Galactus

Originally posted by Utrigita

I can see that but causing damage to more then a single universe at the time

could imo count as a multiversal battle too.
That scenario would be better phrased as a "Multi-Universal" feat.

Imo (from what I've gathered through time)

Universal (single reality)

Multi-Universal (two realities or more) - but if 616 is included it's like multiversal.

Multiversal (all universes in a multiverse)

Trans-Multiversal (more than one multiverse) depending on, this could mean everything.

Megaversal (a collection of multiverseS) how many exactly is a mystery.

Omniversal (all of the above) all reality/all creation/all existence/all possibilities.

Originally posted by Mr Master
That scenario would be better phrased as a "Multi-Universal" feat.

Imo (from what I've gathered through time)

Universal (single reality)

Multi-Universal (two realities or more) - but if 616 is included it's like multiversal.

Multiversal (all universes in a multiverse)

Trans-Multiversal (more than one multiverse) depending on, this could mean everything.

Megaversal (a collection of multiverseS) how many exactly is a mystery.

Omniversal (all of the above) all reality/all creation/all existence/all possibilities.

Okay cool all those different levels of damage spreading can be confusing at times.

Unicron.