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everyone i know thought this was a sequal! the trailer looks great and this movie looks amazing but will anyone be able to see past the crapfest that was hulk?

i hope this movie is huge but is it to soon after lee's attempt to be a success?

i have alot of faith in edward norton the man co-wrote the script and has read the comics.

Yeah Norton is a major Hulk fan, so who better to script and take on the character than him?

It will be awesome,

Entertainment Weekly published a story that may be cause for concern -about a split between Ed Norton & Louis Letterier and Marvel Productions. Marvel is forcing a shorter running time of two hours; the director & star were looking for a longer film ( 2 hours 15 min.) Norton's not talking to the press right now.
Then again, he has a rep for interfering behind the scenes on films and being a pain in the ass. If they want a longer cut for a more cerebral film, that was the problem with the last one.
It will be an embarrassment for Marvel, if they can't get the Hulk right after two big-budget tries.

The first film is highly under-rated. This film will be garbage, acting (so-far) looks shoddy, cg is piss-poor (I've seen video-games with better graphics) and the vaunted '26 minuite' fight scene will blow chunks.

Originally posted by grey fox
The first film is highly under-rated. This film will be garbage, acting (so-far) looks shoddy, cg is piss-poor (I've seen video-games with better graphics) and the vaunted '26 minuite' fight scene will blow chunks.

I have to vehemently disagree. I think the new CGI model for the Hulk looks much better. Also, Edward Norton, like Eric Bana is a splendid actor. Also, Norton has the look and has a greater understanding of the characters.

Originally posted by Grinning Goku
I have to vehemently disagree. I think the new CGI model for the Hulk looks much better. Also, Edward Norton, like Eric Bana is a splendid actor. Also, Norton has the look and has a greater understanding of the characters.





i co sighn on what you just said. the cgi for the new hulk looks great. the beef with ang lee's movie was that he focused on the anger and strengh and no real hulk action

Originally posted by grey fox
The first film is highly under-rated. This film will be garbage, acting (so-far) looks shoddy, cg is piss-poor (I've seen video-games with better graphics) and the vaunted '26 minuite' fight scene will blow chunks.
Are you kidding me? How can you say the acting looks poor? Alright you've seen less than five minutes of the movie and besides one or two lines you don't see a lot of acting. I've personally loved Edward Norton in every single thing I've seen him in. And he's one of the best actors out there imo. Piss-poor graphics? Yeah, right. Now I know you're biased against this movie, the last movies graphics looked like someone used the same CG as the cutscenes in Ultimate Alliance. Hulk and Abomination look amazing compared to "Hulk". And you're bashing a fight of which we haven't seen a second of yet. Wow. Just wow. That's all I have to say.

Although, im not partial to the idea of Norton being cast as Banner. I have confidence that he will pull it off as will the rest of the cast. I do, however, have great reservations when it comes to the effects. The effects do look a bit dodgy, but i will hold all judgments until its release. Some of the effects in the iron man trailers looked questionable. The scene where iron man fires a rocket at the tank looked just like a cartoon in the trailer, but in the movie, it looked fantastic. I do think the design of the Hulk is much more appropriate than Li's version, but in defense of li, his movie had some very fine effects. The Ang li CGI suffered from poor character design's, but the effects in general were handled very well.

afraid hulk and abomination will not be strong enough...flippin cars/ hummers wtf , what kinda strength feat is that spiderman can do that as class 10 , hancock looks much stronger lol

well, if your only focus is beating the shit out of your enemy. I dont think you would be to concerned with strength feats. But, yeah, it would be cool to see them taking down a building in the process of fighting

Personally, I don't like the look of the new Hulk. He's clearly supposed to look like Banner which was jarring considering I don't think anyone has ever render Hulk that way.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Personally, I don't like the look of the new Hulk. He's clearly supposed to look like Banner which was jarring considering I don't think anyone has ever render Hulk that way.

Maybe they figured it made sense. Why not? Otherwise, they're just two completely seperate beings. And Professor Hulk resembled Bruce Banner, remember.

Originally posted by roughrider
Maybe they figured it made sense. Why not? Otherwise, they're just two completely seperate beings.

But they are. Physically, mentally, emotionally, socially . . .

Originally posted by roughrider
And Professor Hulk resembled Bruce Banner, remember.

Not in the same way.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Personally, I don't like the look of the new Hulk. He's clearly supposed to look like Banner which was jarring considering I don't think anyone has ever render Hulk that way.
I read that they went through tons of different Hulk designs, everything from having a child-like Hulk, a "dead" Hulk, an animal-like Hulk, to how which green out of a pallet of some 800 odd different greens. The director had a reason for doing the Hulk like this for a reason (which I don't clearly recall).

Lee's Hulk looked like a big baby most of the time (facially) - although his frame and colour seems to be more on the money than this new Hulk.

I hope the storyline is good

Originally posted by scuzz
everyone i know thought this was a sequal! the trailer looks great and this movie looks amazing but will anyone be able to see past the crapfest that was hulk?

i hope this movie is huge but is it to soon after lee's attempt to be a success?

The trailer is alright. The Hulk looks absolutely trash.


I'm one of the few people who actually enjoyed the first Hulk. Lee did a fine job in my book. I guess there just wasn't enough action for some.


As far as success goes, I think it will do relatively well, especially with Iron Man setting the pace for comic book moves this summer.

Hulk looks like a big pissed-off green Rob Lowe.

Originally posted by Bad Ash231
Hulk looks like a big pissed-off green Rob Lowe.

HA! I agree!

Will anyone ever really be satisfied? OMG! Hulks pants aren't the right purple! Banner uses Speed stick in the movie when clearly in the comics it's Old spice! Hulk has 31 teeth instead of 32 Arghhh this movie's gonna suck!

Movie is NOT even out and people are already writing their suicide notes! At least were getting a second shot at this movie. No comic movie will ever be perfect (people even bitched about Batman begins) So let's try to enjoy "this" view on the Hulk.

Fantastic Four is my favorite team. Yes, the movies were not to my expectation but at least i saw them on the silver screen..twice!

Originally posted by GreatMuta
Will anyone ever really be satisfied? OMG! Hulks pants aren't the right purple! Banner uses Speed stick in the movie when clearly in the comics it's Old spice! Hulk has 31 teeth instead of 32 Arghhh this movie's gonna suck!

Movie is NOT even out and people are already writing their suicide notes! At least were getting a second shot at this movie. No comic movie will ever be perfect (people even bitched about Batman begins) So let's try to enjoy "this" view on the Hulk.

Fantastic Four is my favorite team. Yes, the movies were not to my expectation but at least i saw them on the silver screen..twice!

Not true Spider-man 2 and Iron Man were perfect. IMO
ESPECIALLY SPIDER-MAN 2!!!

Originally posted by Entity
Not true Spider-man 2 and Iron Man were perfect. IMO
ESPECIALLY SPIDER-MAN 2!!!

Uh... Iron Man was Awesome! Spiderman 2 or all the Spiderman movies as a matter of fact... kind of sucked.

Originally posted by scuzz
everyone i know thought this was a sequal! the trailer looks great and this movie looks amazing but will anyone be able to see past the crapfest that was hulk?

i hope this movie is huge but is it to soon after lee's attempt to be a success?

I think word of mouth will help it so it will be modestly successful,but a lot of people are going to stay away from it thinking it is a sequal to the first hulk movie and people after seeing that crapfest film,arent going to want to venture into another theater to another Hulk film cause they will still have that on their mind.Thats the problem Nolan was dealing with in Batman Begins.a lot of moviegoers stayed away from it because they still had the memory of that god awful BATMAN AND ROBIN still in their minds and did not want to venture into the theaters to see another batman movie so that being the case,it didnt make near as much money at the box office as it could have and also because it was poorly marketed as well.this time around,since people found out that Begins was nothing at all like BATMAN AND ROBIN and most moviegoers and fans alike praised it,Im sure that The dark knight sequal will do better box office wise.that will be the same way with this movie I think as well.If its much better than the hul which it looks like it will be and IS a really good movie,then maybe the sequal will do a lot better the next time.

Originally posted by jcvaldez
Uh... Iron Man was Awesome! Spiderman 2 or all the Spiderman movies as a matter of fact... kind of sucked.

yeah their a disgrace to the comics and should be burned.

Originally posted by ragesRemorse
well, if your only focus is beating the shit out of your enemy. I dont think you would be to concerned with strength feats. But, yeah, it would be cool to see them taking down a building in the process of fighting
They aren't the most important thing, but strength feats must be at least a bit consistent.I mean the Abomination had a base strength level twice that of a calm Hulk, so almost 200 Tons of weight lifting ability.This Hulk looks like the one where the Banner persona had a part of control on his actions, not totally Savage Hulk.
From trailers and tv spots we see they can flip and throw around cars with ease, the average city car weights a ton or a bit more, while the H1 of the US Army including soldiers, weapons and ammunition carried has a weight of above 4 tons, and Hulk used it like a toy as well.Then we got the ground smashing feat which causes an earthquake like effect, we'll see of which magnitude.The enviroment damage anyway makes me believe they are portrayed at least Class 80 in the movie.Considering in the first one Hulk throwed away an M1 Abrams which weight is of 60 tons with ease, so they can't show them on a strength level inferior to the previous film.

Originally posted by K3VIL
They aren't the most important thing, but strength feats must be at least a bit consistent.I mean the Abomination had a base strength level twice that of a calm Hulk, so almost 200 Tons of weight lifting ability.This Hulk looks like the one where the Banner persona had a part of control on his actions, not totally Savage Hulk.
From trailers and tv spots we see they can flip and throw around cars with ease, the average city car weights a ton or a bit more, while the H1 of the US Army including soldiers, weapons and ammunition carried has a weight of above 4 tons, and Hulk used it like a toy as well.Then we got the ground smashing feat which causes an earthquake like effect, we'll see of which magnitude.The enviroment damage anyway makes me believe they are portrayed at least Class 80 in the movie.Considering in the first one Hulk throwed away an M1 Abrams which weight is of 60 tons with ease, so they can't show them on a strength level inferior to the previous film.

Oh, can everyone just take a pill about what Hulk's strength level is?

Solomon Grundy does similar feats at DC, and DC always says his strength is on a par with Superman. Feats by Supes just look more dramatic because he combines them with flying, mostly.

Originally posted by roughrider
Oh, can everyone just take a pill about what Hulk's strength level is?

Solomon Grundy does similar feats at DC, and DC always says his strength is on a par with Superman. Feats by Supes just look more dramatic because he combines them with flying, mostly.
Solomon Grundy is really different from Hulk, in some instances he's portrayed unstoppable and not even Superman or other top tiers could restrain him, in other instances bullets could hurt him and no top tier was needed to stop him.
Despite having various incarnations, Hulk has always been a top tier, no matter of what.Only Joe Fixit wasn't up in the scale, being smart and intelligent and the cost of reduced strength and durability.

There was nothing wrong with the first Hulk.

Originally posted by K3VIL
Solomon Grundy is really different from Hulk, in some instances he's portrayed unstoppable and not even Superman or other top tiers could restrain him, in other instances bullets could hurt him and no top tier was needed to stop him.


The point is, no matter what version of Grundy it is, you don't see him doing more than smashing cars, tossing boulders or demolishing buildings - common Hulk-like destruction. And he's up there in strength with Superman most of the time, if not superior.

Did anybody checked the new tv spot ?
Blonsky as a soldier battles Hulk with a rocket launcher and perform acrobatic feats like avoiding Hulk's attacks, dunno how they gonna explain it, but he looked like almost peak human.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTKO3bZmxuk

hulk vs abom street fight:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmYIdzgvOgo

... wish hulk woudl say summin instead of roar

http://www.superherohype.com/news/hulknews.php?id=7248


Some clips

At the end of the day it'll probably be a middle of the road comic book film. At the very least that makes it a million times better than what Ang Lee passed off.

Originally posted by Arcarsenal
At the end of the day it'll probably be a middle of the road comic book film. At the very least that makes it a million times better than what Ang Lee passed off.


from all the fotage o far , ang lees hulk was a bigger spectacle (and looked bulkier..does this hulk look a bit thin to anyone, check the clip i posted above n when he goes to smash the car his body looks a little narrow.)... with super speed running , chucking tanks , huge ground slam and awesome leaping as well as BITING THE ROCKET MISSILE ... i hope lettriers one is more than chucking hummers

hope this hulk movie is more of a spectacle to watch than an lees one

Originally posted by K3VIL
Did anybody checked the new tv spot ?
Blonsky as a soldier battles Hulk with a rocket launcher and perform acrobatic feats like avoiding Hulk's attacks, dunno how they gonna explain it, but he looked like almost peak human.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTKO3bZmxuk

I believe prior to that fight, he's gets treated with a version of the super soldier formula by General Ross. It will eventually go wrong and he becomes the Abomination - the movie will explain.

Originally posted by ankur29
hulk vs abom street fight:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmYIdzgvOgo

... wish hulk woudl say summin instead of roar

The animation looks really fluid & believable.

Loved seeing the Hulk using the cops car to make a pair of "boxing gloves", this movie is getting better and better.But the Abomination is badass too, when he says "Come On" and "Is that all you got" looks like Hulk will have to get really pissed to put him down.

red hulk on 360 only in the new movie game:

http://marvel.com/news/videogames.3645.Red_Hulk_Smashes_Xbox_360

damn hulk was throwing them hands on him lol edit death to smoochy

anyone notice from the streetfight clip in new hulk movie , hulk looks red before he smashes car ... letterier said there would be may many nods /easters eggs

http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/8366/redhulkmovizt0.jpg
http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/8366/redhulkmovizt0.8ab6e96d29.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTurYqns8ZQ&feature=related

this fight scene is going to be awesome...but the one they posted on myspace between Hulk and Emil looks really cheesey.

This movie will do fine at the box office and if more people learn that it's not a sequel, it'll attract more people.

Originally posted by K3VIL
Did anybody checked the new tv spot ?
Blonsky as a soldier battles Hulk with a rocket launcher and perform acrobatic feats like avoiding Hulk's attacks, dunno how they gonna explain it, but he looked like almost peak human.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTKO3bZmxuk

Blonsky moves like Cap America would... . I'm still seeing it at least twice.

I liked that.

For those who don't know:

Blonsky moves like that because he's injected with a Super Soldier Serum but I think he mutates into the Abomination because he received a dose higher than what Bruce was exposed to.

It's got excellent early reviews, so I think we can put our fears to bed. The only thing that can stop this movie from being a box office powerhouse, is the bad taste people have from the last film.

I think there's nothing to fear about the movie itself. The only thing I think that might hurt it actually was the first Hulk movie and how bad it was. Some people might think that it's going to be just as bad

Well Spider-Man 2, Batman begins and Ironman are the perfect comic book movies, if Marvel is making there own in house movies like Ironman then i believe that should give the movie a few extra +'s before we see the film.

I'm definitely not worried about this movie anymore since it has gotten some good early reviews.

Right now, I have absolutely no fears. Ed Norton is one of the best and most respected actors in Hollywood today so I have no worries with what he's done to contribute to this movie. Besides, virtually everyone who's seen the movie at the early screening has said that this movie is great. It's going to make a shitload of money at the box office.

The CG looks alittle iffy, let's hope it doesn't uspset.

It's good, I'm sure that they'll have it all fixed up so it looks as good as possible in theaters.

Originally posted by ankur29
hulk vs abom street fight:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmYIdzgvOgo

... wish hulk woudl say summin instead of roar



thanks dude that looks frigging awesome!

Originally posted by Neo Darkhalen
Well Spider-Man 2, Batman begins and Ironman are the perfect comic book movies, if Marvel is making there own in house movies like Ironman then i believe that should give the movie a few extra +'s before we see the film.

Please don't include Spider-Man movies in Batman Begins and Ironman talks... it's borderline insulting.

Originally posted by SpaceMonkey
Please don't include Spider-Man movies in Batman Begins and Ironman talks... it's borderline insulting.

...

Spider-man 2 > Batman Begins

Spider-Man isn't anywhere near being better than Batman Begins. It's a great movie, but Begins surpasses it greatly.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
...

Spider-man 2 > Batman Begins


That's only true if your under 17.

All the top film critics disagree with you...

Spider-man is a great superhero move that can be enjoyed by both the young and the old, it has action, humour, great character development and a huge amount of rewatchability (Batman Begin's biggest flaw). Both Spider-man and Spider-man 2 are better then Batman Begins.


X-2 is as well.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
All the top film critics disagree with you...

Spider-man is a great superhero move that can be enjoyed by both the young and the old, it has action, humour, great character development and a huge amount of rewatchability (Batman Begin's biggest flaw). Both Spider-man and Spider-man 2 are better then Batman Begins.


X-2 is as well.

You may go and kill yourself now

I'm right.

And just FYI Spider-man 2 was nominated for more awards then Batman Begins and won more awards then Batman Begins. It was a superior movie in virtualy every way.

i will be good because of the hype

Just because a movie wins awards doesn't mean it's better. If my shit wins more awards than a tomato, does that make it better? No, it doesn't.

Originally posted by Stewie_Griffin
Just because a movie wins awards doesn't mean it's better. If my shit wins more awards than a tomato, does that make it better? No, it doesn't.

It made more money. Won and was nominated for more awards. Film critics thought it was better.

... so what exactly is the criteria for being a better movie?

The first Hulk sucked and when I heard about this new one, I thought "oh great, a sequel to kill this marvel legend further" but when I found out it's actually a new beginning of the Hulk, I just felt thrilled. This movie is gonna kick more ass than Spider-man 3 and X-men 1-3 combined.

Originally posted by scuzz
everyone i know thought this was a sequal! the trailer looks great and this movie looks amazing but will anyone be able to see past the crapfest that was hulk?

i hope this movie is huge but is it to soon after lee's attempt to be a success? It worked for Batman Begins. They have a good cast and a known villain. It should do well.

A lot of people are hyped to see this movie so I can see it being pretty well received and being a blowout at the box office.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
It made more money. Won and was nominated for more awards. Film critics thought it was better.

... so what exactly is the criteria for being a better movie?

The film critics had the same opinion about both Batman Begins & Spider Man 2 - highly favourable; some even saying each could claim to be the best comic book movie ever. Roger Ebert felt that way, and he was lukewarm on the first Spider Man, and didn't even like a single Batman film prior to Begins. Both films made his top ten of the year, I believe.
Both films were coming from different places, though. Batman Begins was the fifth film, and had the erase the stench of Batman & Robin eight years earlier (the series started to go wrong halfway through the first four films.) He spent some time away while the producers sought the best way to reinvent the character & concept. While Spider Man 2 was only the 2nd film - coming off such monster success that surprised even Marvel - and had the opportunity to get deeper into things after all the origin story of the first. Expectations for the two films were different. BB was about rebuilding, while SM2 was keeping the status quo.

By Spider Man 3, that overstuffed feeling of the later Batman films could be seen, though.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
All the top film critics disagree with you...

Spider-man is a great superhero move that can be enjoyed by both the young and the old, it has action, humour, great character development and a huge amount of rewatchability (Batman Begin's biggest flaw). Both Spider-man and Spider-man 2 are better then Batman Begins.


X-2 is as well.

I watch Batman Begins once a week...The entire Spiderman trilogy and X-2 are among the best comic book movies ever made, but still a step behind Iron Man and Batman Begins, IMO.

The Incredible Hulk, 6/10

Right now I'd give The Incredible Hulk 5/10. Only because I'm skeptical and just wanna see Tony Stark. I do hope my opinion changes after I see the film.

Gotta say, I about poo'd myself when IM shows up in the trailer. If anyone saw the easter egg at the end of the IM credits, I think they might be starting to try and set that up.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
Gotta say, I about poo'd myself when IM shows up in the trailer. If anyone saw the easter egg at the end of the IM credits, I think they might be starting to try and set that up.

Which trailer does Tony Stark appear in?

Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
Right now I'd give The Incredible Hulk 5/10. Only because I'm skeptical and just wanna see Tony Stark. I do hope my opinion changes after I see the film.

My expectations for TIH are incredibly high and I think the movie will be awesome.

Originally posted by roughrider
Which trailer does Tony Stark appear in?

The newest Hulk trailer has Stark in the beginning talking to who I can only assume is General Ross.

*Stark walks into a bar*
Stark: "I hear you have an interesting problem."
Ross: "Heh. You're one to talk."
*Stark smiles*

*cut to Hulk footage*

The only thing I can think of would be that Ross wants Stark to build some sort of weapon in order to stop the Hulk.

Its got 3/5 stars from EMPIRE

Verdict
More action, less poncing, than that last Hulk movie ensures a stronger response

Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
Right now I'd give The Incredible Hulk 5/10. Only because I'm skeptical and just wanna see Tony Stark. I do hope my opinion changes after I see the film.

How can you even rate, if you didn't see the film.

Originally posted by Kazenji
Its got 3/5 stars from EMPIRE

Verdict
More action, less poncing, than that last Hulk movie ensures a stronger response

There was action, but not so much as I expected. And I wasn't blown away by any action sequence.
And I was disappointed by the end fight,

As long as this movie is more well received than Ang Lee's movie, I'm happy.

So far, the early reviews are good. It may be less ambitious than Ang Lee's version, but much more rounded and less arty. In short, it's more what fans of the Hulk want to see - that's the word of mouth.

Review: `Hulk' smashes a lot, but lacks heart
Wednesday June 11 3:15 PM ET


The fanboys will probably be happy with the latest incarnation of "The Incredible Hulk" At least we can say that much for it and that's something we most assuredly could not say about Ang Lee and James Schamus' somber, introspective and largely derided take in 2003 on the beloved Marvel Comics hero.

There's a lot more action this time around as you might expect from "Transporter" director Louis Leterrier a deafening, endless amount by the colossal conclusion as well as fond references both to the comic book series and to the television show it inspired starring Bill Bixby. (Leterrier even sneaks in some of Joseph Harnell's "Lonely Man" theme, or as Stewie on "Family Guy" refers to it, "That sad, walking-away song from `The Incredible Hulk.'"

This version is indeed bigger-stronger-faster, which seems appropriate in telling the story of a guy who's been juicing. The effects look way more ... is "realistic" the right word to describe a raging green giant, rampaging down 125th Street in Harlem, flipping cop cars into the air like toys? It's Showtime at the Apollo, all right unless it's your car.

But the inevitable comparisons to "Iron Man," Marvel Studios' first blockbuster this summer, serve as a glaring reminder of what this "Hulk" lacks: wit and heart. Despite the presence of Edward Norton, an actor capable of going just as deep as Robert Downey Jr., we don't feel a strong sense of Bruce Banner's inner conflict. And that's surprising, given that the famously detail-oriented Norton worked over Zak Penn's script. Instead, he's just a good guy trying to keep the wrong guys from getting their hands on some bad stuff an oversized cog in the midst of a spectacle.

A lightning-quick title sequence wisely zips through Bruce's back story: As we know by now, Doc Bruce Banner, belted by gamma rays, turns into The Hulk. We don't require further explanation. On the run but still seeking a cure to his radiation poisoning, Bruce lays low in a Brazilian favela, works at a bottling plant and tries to blend in by learning Portuguese from television. He's also taking martial arts classes in hopes of controlling his breathing and his anger. Clearly, they're not working.

One day, longtime enemy Gen. "Thunderbolt" Ross (William Hurt) tracks him down with a team of soldiers, including the hungry and slightly crazed Emil Blonsky (Tim Roth). The subsequent chase, in and out of cramped alleyways, across rooftops and through hanging laundry, is thrilling. Worthy of a "Bourne" movie, it's probably the film's most compelling sequence, and it didn't even require all that complicated computer-generated imagery. The irony is that the faster he runs, the higher his heart rate climbs and the more likely it becomes that he'll transform into The Hulk.

Ross wants what's inside Bruce's body to replicate it and create a team of super soldiers and Blonsky is all too happy to volunteer as Test Subject No. 1. Bruce must risk his safety and return to the lab where it all began to stop Ross and Blonsky. This means he also must run into his long-lost love, Dr. Betty Ross, played stiffly by Liv Tyler. Naturally, when they reunite in the pouring rain, she happens to be wearing a flimsy white blouse.

That's a rare delicate element of "The Incredible Hulk," though. From there, it's a series of increasingly bombastic showdowns and explosions leading up to the climactic battle between The Hulk and the 'roided-up beast Blonsky has become, known in the comic book series as The Abomination.

Tim Blake Nelson breaks up the third-act monotony with a hilariously weird performance as Samuel Sterns, the cellular biologist who tries to help Bruce rid his body of gamma rays. But it's the guy who walks through the door at the very end that'll really get the audience excited with the prospect of more superhero sound and fury to come.

"The Incredible Hulk," a Universal Pictures release, is rated PG-13 for sequences of intense action violence, some frightening sci-fi images and brief suggestive content. Running time: 114 minutes. Two and a half stars out of four.

My opinion of the film. There is only so much trailers can show you

Originally posted by DigiMark007
If anyone saw the easter egg at the end of the IM credits, I think they might be starting to try and set that up.

I think that's EXACTLY what they're working on with the crossovers. I'm excited.

Yep, they're trying to set up the Avengers and that's gonna be awesome.

Originally posted by SpaceMonkey
I think that's EXACTLY what they're working on with the crossovers. I'm excited.


Originally posted by Stewie_Griffin
Yep, they're trying to set up the Avengers and that's gonna be awesome.

I went to see the movie today,


I absoulutely loved every moment of it,


9/10


Ed Norton, Will Hurt and Tim Roth were all amazing

It seems like the majority of people who've seen this movie have loved it.

for good reason

So, if you could estimate, how much screentime does the Hulk get total?

I heard theres a captain america cameo in this film

Is that true or just a load of crap.

Originally posted by Kazenji
I heard theres a captain america cameo in this film

Is that true or just a load of crap.
Load of crap.

Originally posted by SpaceMonkey
I think that's EXACTLY what they're working on with the crossovers. I'm excited.
Avengers is slated for 2010, right after Iron Man 2 and Thor in 2009.

Sorry for the double post.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
All the top film critics disagree with you...

Spider-man is a great superhero move that can be enjoyed by both the young and the old, it has action, humour, great character development and a huge amount of rewatchability (Batman Begin's biggest flaw). Both Spider-man and Spider-man 2 are better then Batman Begins.


X-2 is as well.
IA with Batman Begins as far as rewatchability and I am a batman fan. But of all the Batman films the only one I've watched fewer times than this one is Batman and Robin maybe? The movie is good but it has a tediousness about it too.

O and I saw Hulk today and I loved it. The only MAJOR downfall is Liv Tyler. Terrible.

Yeah Liv Tyler was crap IMO.

I would say The Hulk was around for around 3 quarters of the movie,

maybe a bit less.

I liked Liv Tyler, actually thought she should've had more lines. She did good enough for me.

I like that they introduced The Leader for later movies.

Of course, and the dude playing him was so damn funny.

Originally posted by MightyEInherjar
Avengers is slated for 2010, right after Iron Man 2 and Thor in 2009.

Sorry for the double post.

Iron Man 2 & Thor are slated for 2010. Captain America & The Avengers are slated for 2011, just in time for Marvel's 50th Anniversary.

The Incredible Hulk was solid, but not as good as Iron Man. Less of the arty distractions that marred Ang Lee's film and more on the story & action. I think there will be an extended cut on DVD, to appease Edward Norton & Louis Leterrier.

I honestly liked this movie more than Iron Man but both movies were solid and are among the best movies of the year thus far.

Originally posted by MightyEInherjar
I like that they introduced The Leader for later movies.

Like to know how they will do his big head without making it look stupid.

Originally posted by Stewie_Griffin
I honestly liked this movie more than Iron Man but both movies were solid and are among the best movies of the year thus far.
Iron Man had a better script, but the action in Hulk was IMO much better than the action in Iron Man. At least the final show down in Hulk totally owned the final show down in Iron Man in my book.

I liked the movie. It was good enough to make me forget about Hulk: 2003. I was especially happy with all the references and hints about other heroes.

It's really hard for me to say which I liked more between Iron Man and the Incredible Hulk....

Which is quite a compliment to the Hulk, considering just how damned good Iron Man was.

I think they were both equally as good,

they are just such different characters and such different movies to be able to say which is better,


I preferred the fight/action in The Hulk though,

Yeah, definitely, but when Iron Man went back to that village in the new suit, it was awesome. I wish he didn't get owned in the final fight and that it would've went back and forth like the final fight in TIH.

Originally posted by ankur29
afraid hulk and abomination will not be strong enough...flippin cars/ hummers wtf , what kinda strength feat is that spiderman can do that as class 10 , hancock looks much stronger lol


this fear came true......

hancock>>>TIhulk

Hancock...better than TIH? I hope you know what could happen to you by stating that.

well he is stronger ... that is what i meant ...he stopped a train,threw a whale, lifted a car WITHOUT EFFORT &brushed away missile

obviously not stronger than comic version hulk

The Hulk could do all of that with no hands, mind you. If I were you, I'd stop posting in this thread, because you're going to get your ass handed to you if a bunch of Hulk fans come here.

Those Hulk fans can be mean sons of bitches

They deserve to be when outrageous comments like that are made.

Originally posted by Stewie_Griffin
The Hulk could do all of that with no hands, mind you. If I were you, I'd stop posting in this thread, because you're going to get your ass handed to you if a bunch of Hulk fans come here.

He's talking about the 2008 movie version of the Hulk, and the fact that he didn't get any impressive strength feats.

Well, I wasn't looking for a bunch of feats. I felt that we got enough action and got enough feats wise to show he wasn't a punk. Still, Hancock would go down hard against the Hulk anyway.

Very nice...They really paid homage to old Hulk fans from both the comix and tv show. Don't think Liv Tyler was as bad in the Betty role as some have said either.

ironman 2 and the incredible hulk 2 should be merged into one movie

i liked parts of hulk 2003, but i have to admit, this movie blew that other movie away completely...

great cgi, norton was excellent, and the fight at the end was awesome imo...

some of the fight scenes was pretty funny IMO

I absolutely loved Liv Tyler as Betty Ross. She was perfect.

Originally posted by Stewie_Griffin
I absolutely loved Liv Tyler as Betty Ross. She was perfect.

I hated her as Betty, Connely (sp?) was much better.

the armoured hummers only weighed 5-6 tons and huk struggled to lift it ......wow that sucks

http://uspolitics.about.com/b/2006/06/15/armored-humvees-deadly-to-soliders-inside.htm
http://www.defense-update.com/products/h/hummer-plasan.htm


...... he is class 15/20 tops ; all strength feats you see spiderman was capable of lol , abomination was class 25/30

ang lee's hulk was class 10

what do you guys think?

Originally posted by ankur29
all strength feats you see spiderman was capable of lol

Like picking up a car and ripping it in half? I doubt Spider-Man can do that.

What strength feats were people expecting? first transformation in Brazil in a bottling plant ... heaviest thing there was probably the forklift he chucked at Roth.

Second transformation at a college, heaviest thing around were teh hummers, which he shoved/kicked/whatever around.

Fighting in a city street ... what did you expect? they would stop fighting to see if they could lift the buildings?

Originally posted by ankur29
ang lee's hulk was class 10

Bullshit, M1A1 Tanks weigh around 67 tons and Hulk threw one a good half mile in that film.

Originally posted by Scoobless
Like picking up a car and ripping it in half? I doubt Spider-Man can do that.

What strength feats were people expecting? first transformation in Brazil in a bottling plant ... heaviest thing there was probably the forklift he chucked at Roth.

Second transformation at a college, heaviest thing around were teh hummers, which he shoved/kicked/whatever around.

Fighting in a city street ... what did you expect? they would stop fighting to see if they could lift the buildings?



Bullshit, M1A1 Tanks weigh around 67 tons and Hulk threw one a good half mile in that film.


lol , my bad i meant anglees hulk was class 100 , i remeber hism lifting that huge rock at teh end and thrwoing it far ... he was way stronger than the new hulk

but he never implied how strong he was ... based on his feats and effort that he required to move hummer and other stuff i woudl estimate he is class 20.....

how strong do you think he is?

Dunno ... I think 2003 Hulk would stomp 2008 Hulk if they were to fight.

He wouldn't straight up whoop his ass easily but he would win. At this level, the 2008 Hulk isn't ready for '03 Hulk's ferocity.

Btw, Liv Tyler did better as Betty Ross than Connelly. 131

i got to side with scoob on this one, though i'm not a big fan of tyler as an actress in general...

I just felt that Connelly's performance didn't really nail the character. She was always ratting out Bruce & somewhat seemed like she was against him. Tyler's Ross wanted to actually help Bruce and she showed that she cared.

Originally posted by ankur29
the armoured hummers only weighed 5-6 tons and huk struggled to lift it ......wow that sucks

http://uspolitics.about.com/b/2006/06/15/armored-humvees-deadly-to-soliders-inside.htm
http://www.defense-update.com/products/h/hummer-plasan.htm


...... he is class 15/20 tops ; all strength feats you see spiderman was capable of lol , abomination was class 25/30

ang lee's hulk was class 10

what do you guys think?

Marvel is actively involved in producing these films. You think they want to undercut the Hulk's might?
He's a character on the run, so he only stops to hit what's in his way. He hasn't been required to do some kind of saving feat yet, like lifting a ship or stopping a train. The Thing got to do that in FF2, lifting that giant Ferris Wheel back up to safety. In future movies, when the story can dictate the Hulk doing a great show-off feat of strength(rather than just fighting & running), we'll see then what he's capable of.

Ang Lee's Hulk a class 10? His classes for the characters are just all wrong. I'm thinking he seemed to have trouble because of the gamma reduction. Even so, this Hulk hasn't had a chance to truly test himself.

See I thought the strength level stayed the same through the movie, as opposed to weakening via gamma reduction midway through. The army nearly brought him down near the beginning, so he wasn't real high powered then either. I don't think the little experiment did anything other than repress the specific episode it triggered (vs affecting future "conversions". If anything he was strongest at the end.
Abomination was supposed to look like his superior initially, and get us all scared that the Incredible Hulk may have met his match.

And yeah I would say Hulk class 20-30 and Abomination 140% or so of him. Hulk did not struggle too much with the Hummer. At first he did so, I think just to get more camera time, but when he got it up he swung it around pretty easily and forcefully.
I did think it was pitiful when he and Hulk had to climb buildings instead of jumping all the way up on them.
But you know what? It made it a bit more believable than a big green guy jumping all the way across the Grand Canyon--kinda more like a real science experiment gone bad that could really happen.

The gamma reduction definitely weakened him as far as his base level is concerned. He was his strongest at the end because he got a hell of a lot madder and as we all know, when he gets madder he gets stronger. I liked the strength levels in the movie and the Hulk, at the least, was a class 50-60.

I see on two posts that Ang Lee's Hulk was class 10...I'm sure you guys mean 100 instead if I am reading things right unless you're talking about something else.

I may be beating a dead horse and I'm just saying it for the sake of discussion and not argument, but some of Hulk's signature "special attacks" or "energy attacks" like the thunderclap and when he beats the ground and causes shockwaves seem to show his strength level at a higher level than his normal lifting feats. I could go with Joe's class 50-60 at times or a little lower at times either. And I still don't see the gamma reduction (I'm not trying to argue, just saying) myself. He fell from the airplane and hit the pavement hard enough to break through it seemingly before he even fully changed to the Hulk, and it did not hurt him. And even at the beginning of the battle with A, I know A knocked him back good but I think that's just because A was bigger and badder than him, not because Hulk was weaker than normal. He tore up the car to make a shield/weapon without too much trouble before he really got mad.
I did absolutely love it when he came back and overpowered Abomination though. That was as good as the Rocky movies
So what did they do with Abomination? (When he was cutting Hulk with his bony projections the first thing I thought of was when Doomsday and Superman originally fought.) You couldn't just leave a monster like him alone, because he would have recovered fast and got up and started causing more chaos.

I wondered too what they were going to do with Blonsky. He was only choked unconscious - how were they going to take him into captivity?

Unless of course, the movie version changes back to human, unlike the comics version.

Originally posted by Raoul
i got to side with scoob on this one, though i'm not a big fan of tyler as an actress in general...
THANK YOU

I don't know what it is about her.

she has either enormous shoulders or a tiny head... well, thats the physical aspect...

and she's just never that convincing in her roles, imo...

Originally posted by roughrider
I wondered too what they were going to do with Blonsky. He was only choked unconscious - how were they going to take him into captivity?

Unless of course, the movie version changes back to human, unlike the comics version.

I definitely think he is being saved for future villains so he can still pose a threat to the Hulk. And I think that if they wanted to make him more dangerous, they should have him be able to transform at will, especially since this version of the Abomination isn't tragic like other versions.

Originally posted by Raoul
she has either enormous shoulders or a tiny head... well, thats the physical aspect...

and she's just never that convincing in her roles, imo...

I like her cause I like her old man. Ever since she had a kid in real life her body doesn't look real young anymore. I think she brought a nice mature and slightly older look to the screen which would go with the timeframe of the story at least. As far as her shoulders,I kinda like women with a more solid frame myself (as long as they ain't fat). Guys, you want a woman with some good child-birthing hips you know!!!

Liv Tyler is fine Jeniffer Conolley is totally beautiful

Jennifer Connelly is beautiful but she aint all that. Liv Tyler looks much better to me.

I think Abom and the Leader should team up in either the sequel or a sequel to the sequel (If the second one does well), with Leader as the brains and Abom as the muscle/executioner.

That's probably going to happen in the sequel and not the sequel's sequel. But more than likely, the Abomination will return in nearly all of the movies. I'd actually like to see his appearance change to something a bit similar to the comics. What could happen is Ross could experiment on him or have people experiment on him which accidentally mutates him even further. I like the redesign a lot (a little more so than the comic design) but it would be cool to see his face become a bit more like the comic version in one of the sequels.