Calzaghe is the worst boxer on the planet.

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Caps Conscience
British fans should be ashamed to have that fraud represent them.


Let the games begin.

Alpha Centauri
I'm not ashamed, cos he doesn't represent me. He's just from Britain.

-AC

forumcrew
hmm I have generally been on the side of Calzaghe being over rated. But I mean he deserves respect he has had a very good career.

Deano
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
I'm not ashamed, cos he doesn't represent me. He's just from Britain.

-AC

good logic but capt conscience likes to play the country vs country card. shame

Df02
Can't really argue with his record


/trolling.

guy222
He should fight Chad Dawson

jaden101
hahahahaha...

Caps Conscience
The guy has fought nothing but bums. He waited until B-Hop required viagra to fight him when he could have fought him five years ago and still did not look impressive. I'm with Floyd Mayweather Sr. who said Calzaghe can't spell "Box". He is just trash as a fighter. And now his b!tchass wants to fight another old timer in Roy Jones Jr. Calzaghe is a joke of a fighter with his pitypat punches. I'm telling you right now Glen Johson would knock that fool in to next sunday and he is just an above average Lightheavy weight. Records don't mean anything when you have been fighting nothing but Tomato Cans for 90% of your career.

jaden101
Originally posted by Caps Conscience
The guy has fought nothing but bums. He waited until B-Hop required viagra to fight him when he could have fought him five years ago and still did not look impressive. I'm with Floyd Mayweather Sr. who said Calzaghe can't spell "Box". He is just trash as a fighter. And now his b!tchass wants to fight another old timer in Roy Jones Jr. Calzaghe is a joke of a fighter with his pitypat punches. I'm telling you right now Glen Johson would knock that fool in to next sunday and he is just an above average Lightheavy weight. Records don't mean anything when you have been fighting nothing but Tomato Cans for 90% of your career.

so Kessler, Lacy and Hopkins are bums?....ummm...ok

i notice they're always bums AFTER the fight...before the fight they're usually the business

but i agree...he shouldn't fight Jones Jnr....waste of time

Caps Conscience
Originally posted by jaden101
so Kessler, Lacy and Hopkins are bums?....ummm...ok

i notice they're always bums AFTER the fight...before the fight they're usually the business

but i agree...he shouldn't fight Jones Jnr....waste of time

Hopkins is way past it. If he would have jought Calslappy when he was 37 he would have won a clear UD or would have stopped him.

Kessler is a good B level level fighter but will never be great because he lacks a killer instinct.

Lacy was and still is an overated bum.


Who has has Zaghe fought that is viable besides Kessler? I'm talking about rated people in their Primes. Please take your personal bias out of this, because it's clear as day how garbage Calzaghe is. Dare I say that I actually give Hatton more credit than Zaghe.

Caps Conscience
Originally posted by guy222
He should fight Chad Dawson

He is SCARED to fight Dawson.

Caps Conscience
Originally posted by Deano
good logic but capt conscience likes to play the country vs country card. shame

You guys have a hand full of boxers that come out of your country and anytime one them makes little noise all you see is the British going happy go lucky for these guys. All I'm stating is that this guy in perticular guy is a fraud and the British fans should abandon him.

Dr. Leg Lock
smart fighter. fight bums, and make good money.

instead of fight top competition, lose, get hurt, lose pride, make good money.

DigiMark007
Originally posted by Caps Conscience
You guys have a hand full of boxers that come out of your country and anytime one them makes little noise all you see is the British going happy go lucky for these guys. All I'm stating is that this guy in perticular guy is a fraud and the British fans should abandon him.

Is there a reason you're trying to bait people with your posts? Or is that just how you operate? Because it's very transparent and pretty tasteless. This thread should be closed because it's essentially a troll thread anyway....you could've brought this up in the boxing thread instead of trying to pitifully cause a stir by insulting him in the thread.

erm

Anyway, I repoted the first post and asked that this be closed. With luck, one of the globals will agree.

Caps Conscience
Originally posted by DigiMark007
Is there a reason you're trying to bait people with your posts? Or is that just how you operate? Because it's very transparent and pretty tasteless. This thread should be closed because it's essentially a troll thread anyway....you could've brought this up in the boxing thread instead of trying to pitifully cause a stir by insulting him in the thread.

erm

Anyway, I repoted the first post and asked that this be closed. With luck, one of the globals will agree.

Thanks footing repotingme, there chief. I made it a thread because I chose to and if the thread gets closed, then so be it. I haven't called anybody on this forum out of there names and have only expressed my OPINION as to why Calfaggy sucks as boxer. You on the other hand are trying to change the subject of the thread in which case you are the TROLL and are trying to bait me into a back and forth exchange. In other words defend Calzaghe or agree with me if not get lost.......

jaden101
Originally posted by Caps Conscience
Hopkins is way past it. If he would have jought Calslappy when he was 37 he would have won a clear UD or would have stopped him.

Kessler is a good B level level fighter but will never be great because he lacks a killer instinct.

Lacy was and still is an overated bum.


Who has has Zaghe fought that is viable besides Kessler? I'm talking about rated people in their Primes. Please take your personal bias out of this, because it's clear as day how garbage Calzaghe is. Dare I say that I actually give Hatton more credit than Zaghe.

how many times must you keep saying "personal bias"...Hatton was English...Calzaghe is Welsh...i am Scottish...it's the equivalent of me saying you are bias towards a fighter because he's mexican or canadian...

you predicted another fight wrongly and you're bitter about it...you really should give up on it

but he probably will fight Jones...i dont know why he'd bother for his last fight...it should be Tarver or Dawson at light heavy or Pavlik or Taylor at super middle

Jones is still ranked reasonably high in all boxing organisation lists but he's a spent force and is also getting over the hill...but then most of the champions are older than what is considered "prime"...Tarver is 40...Bute is 28...Andrade is 29....very few champs are around 24-25...

says volumes about the state of boxing though

fact is though...you dont become undisputed champion by fighting bums...you dont hold onto a title that you got from Chris Eubank (one of the best fighters ever in his weight) for 10 years by being a bum

but still...if all the US boxing gyms can produce is bums...then i guess that's who you fight

Caps Conscience
Originally posted by jaden101
how many times must you keep saying "personal bias"...Hatton was English...Calzaghe is Welsh...i am Scottish...it's the equivalent of me saying you are bias towards a fighter because he's mexican or canadian...

you predicted another fight wrongly and you're bitter about it...you really should give up on it

but he probably will fight Jones...i dont know why he'd bother for his last fight...it should be Tarver or Dawson at light heavy or Pavlik or Taylor at super middle

Jones is still ranked reasonably high in all boxing organisation lists but he's a spent force and is also getting over the hill...but then most of the champions are older than what is considered "prime"...Tarver is 40...Bute is 28...Andrade is 29....very few champs are around 24-25...

says volumes about the state of boxing though

fact is though...you dont become undisputed champion by fighting bums...you dont hold onto a title that you got from Chris Eubank (one of the best fighters ever in his weight) for 10 years by being a bum

but still...if all the US boxing gyms can produce is bums...then i guess that's who you fight

I'm not bitter at all about the fight. It was as split decision that went the other way. No big deal at all. Calzaghe let a man that was 43 years old and clearly way past his prime beat him up. After the fight B-Hop didn't have one bruise to say that he fought 12 rounds with top ten guy. Calzaghe should be ashamed by his perfomance. And fact is this YOU in pertucular to show personal bias to fighters from that part of the world regardless of the their respective nationalities. That fact has been established. B-Hop landed the cleaner and most effective blows that night and that was evidenced by Slappies face after the fight. Now I could see how a judge can score the fight to Calzaghe just based on activity (so I'm not disputing the decision). What I am saying is if he fight a skilled lightheavy that still has fresh legs and can go a full 12 rounds(unlike B-Hop) he will definitely lose. I mean just imagine the kind of beating Calzaghe would recieve at the hand of Chad Dawson or Glen Johson.


And to answer your question the reason why he doesn't want to fight any of the guys I mentioned is because he does not care about fighting the best opposition he only cares about taking reasonably safe fights against big names so he can retire undefeated. I will say it again Calzaghe is not real fighter. He is fraud plain and simple.

Caps Conscience
Originally posted by jaden101
how many times must you keep saying "personal bias"...Hatton was English...Calzaghe is Welsh...i am Scottish...it's the equivalent of me saying you are bias towards a fighter because he's mexican or canadian...

you predicted another fight wrongly and you're bitter about it...you really should give up on it

but he probably will fight Jones...i dont know why he'd bother for his last fight...it should be Tarver or Dawson at light heavy or Pavlik or Taylor at super middle

Jones is still ranked reasonably high in all boxing organisation lists but he's a spent force and is also getting over the hill...but then most of the champions are older than what is considered "prime"...Tarver is 40...Bute is 28...Andrade is 29....very few champs are around 24-25...

says volumes about the state of boxing though

fact is though...you dont become undisputed champion by fighting bums...you dont hold onto a title that you got from Chris Eubank (one of the best fighters ever in his weight) for 10 years by being a bum

but still...if all the US boxing gyms can produce is bums...then i guess that's who you fight

late twenties to early thirties is generally considered a boxers prime. 24-25 the boxers are generally still learning the craft unless they started at a very early age or have crazy physical attributes that give them some kind of advantage over there opponents.

Ok you still haven't named a world renouned fighther that was in their prime and legitimate threat to his title beside Kessler and B-Hop. That translates to 90% of his opposition being BUMS.

Alpha Centauri
Originally posted by Caps Conscience
You guys have a hand full of boxers that come out of your country and anytime one them makes little noise all you see is the British going happy go lucky for these guys. All I'm stating is that this guy in perticular guy is a fraud and the British fans should abandon him.

How do you fraud a ten year undefeated streak?

-AC

jaden101
Originally posted by Caps Conscience
I'm not bitter at all about the fight. It was as split decision that went the other way. No big deal at all. Calzaghe let a man that was 43 years old and clearly way past his prime beat him up. After the fight B-Hop didn't have one bruise to say that he fought 12 rounds with top ten guy. Calzaghe should be ashamed by his perfomance. And fact is this YOU in pertucular to show personal bias to fighters from that part of the world regardless of the their respective nationalities. That fact has been established. B-Hop landed the cleaner and most effective blows that night and that was evidenced by Slappies face after the fight. Now I could see how a judge can score the fight to Calzaghe just based on activity (so I'm not disputing the decision). What I am saying is if he fight a skilled lightheavy that still has fresh legs and can go a full 12 rounds(unlike B-Hop) he will definitely lose. I mean just imagine the kind of beating Calzaghe would recieve at the hand of Chad Dawson or Glen Johson.


And to answer your question the reason why he doesn't want to fight any of the guys I mentioned is because he does not care about fighting the best opposition he only cares about taking reasonably safe fights against big names so he can retire undefeated. I will say it again Calzaghe is not real fighter. He is fraud plain and simple.

it was a split and the judge who scored it in hopkins' favour was wildly out compared to the other 2 judges and not one commentator knew how he managed to score it the way he did...it should have been unanimous and you know it

there's no denying calzaghe is also getting on in years but he never showed signs of being tired in that fight...which for him is just as well because he needs to last the distance because he knows he's not the hardest hitter in the world...he wins on number and accuracy of punches

but yeah you're right in saying hopkins couldn't last 12...

still....he's a candidate for the boxing hall of fame (Hopkins)...and under what actions?...because he beat del la hoya and Tarver...anyone else of any note he's come up against (Taylor twice, Roy Jones jnr when he WAS in his prime)...he's been beaten...unlike Calzaghe

you cite that Calzaghe hasn't fought anyone of note...well who has Chad Dawson fought?....absolutely nobody worth mentioning...at all

as for him losing to a "fresh" light heavy in 12 rounds...well...not on number and accuracy of punches he wont...and he's only ever been floored twice in his career so his chin is good thus it's unlikely he'll get knocked out




that's what fighters do though...every single one of them...you dont come into the pro ranks and fights top ranking contenders from the off...you have to fight journeymen...Calzaghe never once looked like losing to any of them...unlike hopkins who got beat in his 1st pro fight by Clinton Mitchell....



your continual repetition of this statement doesn't make it true...and even if it were it still wouldn't give any of your other claims any legitimacy

but you're right...Calzaghe should have been ashamed by his performance against hopkins...he didn't fight well...and he still won

DigiMark007
Originally posted by Caps Conscience
Thanks footing repotingme, there chief. I made it a thread because I chose to and if the thread gets closed, then so be it. I haven't called anybody on this forum out of there names and have only expressed my OPINION as to why Calfaggy sucks as boxer. You on the other hand are trying to change the subject of the thread in which case you are the TROLL and are trying to bait me into a back and forth exchange. In other words defend Calzaghe or agree with me if not get lost.......

You don't have the right to tell anyone what to say or do. Just saying.

Insults and poor grammar aside, though, you didn't address any of my points, nor attempt to rationalize the thread except confirming it as little more than a bashing thread (which, again, should be in the boxing thread in the first place).

Caps Conscience
Originally posted by DigiMark007
You don't have the right to tell anyone what to say or do. Just saying.

Insults and poor grammar aside, though, you didn't address any of my points, nor attempt to rationalize the thread except confirming it as little more than a bashing thread (which, again, should be in the boxing thread in the first place).

Look man, this thread is about why I think Calzaghe sucks. Either you agree or don't. I don't want to go back and forth with about anything.................really, because quite frankly, I think you're a douche. Now put your opinion up or leave me alone.

Caps Conscience
Originally posted by jaden101
it was a split and the judge who scored it in hopkins' favour was wildly out compared to the other 2 judges and not one commentator knew how he managed to score it the way he did...it should have been unanimous and you know it

there's no denying calzaghe is also getting on in years but he never showed signs of being tired in that fight...which for him is just as well because he needs to last the distance because he knows he's not the hardest hitter in the world...he wins on number and accuracy of punches

but yeah you're right in saying hopkins couldn't last 12...

still....he's a candidate for the boxing hall of fame (Hopkins)...and under what actions?...because he beat del la hoya and Tarver...anyone else of any note he's come up against (Taylor twice, Roy Jones jnr when he WAS in his prime)...he's been beaten...unlike Calzaghe

you cite that Calzaghe hasn't fought anyone of note...well who has Chad Dawson fought?....absolutely nobody worth mentioning...at all

as for him losing to a "fresh" light heavy in 12 rounds...well...not on number and accuracy of punches he wont...and he's only ever been floored twice in his career so his chin is good thus it's unlikely he'll get knocked out




that's what fighters do though...every single one of them...you dont come into the pro ranks and fights top ranking contenders from the off...you have to fight journeymen...Calzaghe never once looked like losing to any of them...unlike hopkins who got beat in his 1st pro fight by Clinton Mitchell....



your continual repetition of this statement doesn't make it true...and even if it were it still wouldn't give any of your other claims any legitimacy

but you're right...Calzaghe should have been ashamed by his performance against hopkins...he didn't fight well...and he still won

You can't be serius when you compare the B-Hops and Calzaghe's resume it is very lopsided. B-Hop has KOed 2 boxing hall of famers (Oscar Delahoya and Tito Trinidad) and outpointed another Hall of Famer in Winky Wright not only that but he jumped up 2 divisions to beat the linear lightheavy weight champ after the age 40. All this after defending his title 20 consecutive times(against the likes of William Joppy, Antwan Echols, Howard Eastman, Segundo Mercado and the list goes on) . Zaghe has defended 20+ times, but he also ducked a Prime Hopkins and Roy Jones Jr. and now that these guys are noticeably past their respective primes he is looking for big money fights against them.<----these actions make him a fraud in my eyes.

As far as Chad Dawson is concerned he is not ranked anywhere near Calzaghe in the P4P rankings and I believe that he would mop the floor with slappy go lucky. Bringing Dawson into this discussion in the way that you are trying to do is irrelevant because Chad is still proving himself while Calzaghe has been a Champion for over 10 years and there are only few named opponents on his resume.


Jaden its no secret that your biased and its being proven in the fact that you are defending Calzaghe even though you are not backing anything up with actual facts.

Alpha Centauri
Are you in any position to accuse people of bias? Really?

-AC

Caps Conscience
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Are you in any position to accuse people of bias? Really?

-AC

You have no argument, you posted several times in this thread and still have yet dispute any of my claims. If you don't like what I have to say that's fine but its obvious that you cant intelligently counter anything that I have posted. I have no bias because I am FAN of the sport of Boxing. Sure there are some fighters that I like more than others, but that has nothing to do with what country they come from. I like Manny Pacquao he is from the Philippines, but I don't like the fact that he doesn't want to fight Juan Manuel Marquez again but that's a different thread all together.

Alpha Centauri
Originally posted by Caps Conscience
You have no argument, you posted several times in this thread and still have yet dispute any of my claims. If you don't like what I have to say that's fine but its obvious that you cant intelligently counter anything that I have posted. I have no bias because I am FAN of the sport of Boxing. Sure there are some fighters that I like more than others, but that has nothing to do with what country they come from. I like Manny Pacquao he is from the Philippines, but I don't like the fact that he doesn't want to fight Juan Manuel Marquez again but that's a different thread all together.

I'm not trying to counter your boxing arguments, I think it's just massively hypocritical of you to call bias on others, especially since you are a biased American who will cheer on an American over any other country, just cos they are American. You will not admit you are biased, so you cannot claim others are.

Whether he is overrated or not, people more knowledgeable and experienced in boxing than YOU, like Calzaghe, and respect his ten year unbeaten record. That's the fact. What can you say to that? "Well I don't like him.".

-AC

Caps Conscience
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
I'm not trying to counter your boxing arguments, I think it's just massively hypocritical of you to call bias on others, especially since you are a biased American who will cheer on an American over any other country, just cos they are American. You will not admit you are biased, so you cannot claim others are.

Whether he is overrated or not, people more knowledgeable and experienced in boxing than YOU, like Calzaghe, and respect his ten year unbeaten record. That's the fact. What can you say to that? "Well I don't like him.".

-AC

See, thats not true at all. I cheered for Miguel Cotto in his fights against Judah and Mosley. I also was cheering of Juan Diaz when he lost to Nate Cambell, I cheered for Paul Williams when he beat Antonio Margarito, I cheered for Carlos Quintana when he beat Paul Williams. I was a big Naseem Hamed fan until he got exposed by Barrera.


Again you have no argument and I can call somebody out for being biased because like I said I like the fighters and could care less where they come from. It's just that in this perticular case we are talking about a guy from Britain and the fans over there a loyal to the point of retardation.

You have no Idea how knowledgeable or experienced I am when it comes to boxing so please do your self a favor and don't mention that again........

Deano
Originally posted by Caps Conscience
See, thats not true at all.

Again you have no argument and I can call somebody out for being biased because like I said I like the fighters and could care less where they come from. It's just that in this perticular case we are talking about a guy from Britain and the fans over there a loyal to the point of retardation.

You have no Idea how knowledgeable or experienced I am when it comes to boxing so please do your self a favor and don't mention that again........

Originally posted by Caps Conscience
All you brits are wankers. Thats right wankers. We have been kicking your arses since 1776 and haven't stopped. Now eat some beans and toast for breakfast with be cup of shut the [email protected] up you limey [email protected] LOL Happy Dance <------Thats how I am going to be dancing over the Queen Mum's grave [email protected] Yankee doodle bitches Yankee doodle.

sure. no bias or hate there

Alpha Centauri
Originally posted by Caps Conscience
See, thats not true at all. I cheered for Miguel Cotto in his fights against Judah and Mosley. I also was cheering of Juan Diaz when he lost to Nate Cambell, I cheered for Paul Williams when he beat Antonio Margarito, I cheered for Carlos Quintana when he beat Paul Williams. I was a big Naseem Hamed fan until he got exposed by Barrera.


Again you have no argument and I can call somebody out for being biased because like I said I like the fighters and could care less where they come from. It's just that in this perticular case we are talking about a guy from Britain and the fans over there a loyal to the point of retardation.

You have no Idea how knowledgeable or experienced I am when it comes to boxing so please do your self a favor and don't mention that again........

You are biased too, so why even bring it up as a negative?

Why does it matter how knowledgeable you are? Are you denying that there are people who praise Calzaghe and also happen to know more and have experienced more? Unless you can prove your experience, don't bring it up.

-AC

Victor Von Doom
Originally posted by Caps Conscience
If you don't like what I have to say that's fine but its obvious that you cant intelligently counter anything that I have posted.

Why does saying 'Calzaghe is the worst boxer on the planet' require an intelligent counter?

Deano
not forgetting this gem of a thread

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=471632&highlight=hatton+forumid%3A71+userid%3A29081

Caps Conscience
You guys are posting all of that old stuff like it's some kind of ace up your sleeves, but in reality I said most of that stuff for my own entertainment and shock value. There is reason the threads that I make go atleast three pages deep and it's the shock aspect of them. I could care less about you Brits and I express my self as such. It has nothing to do with my opinion on Boxing....................

Alpha Centauri
You could care less about us Brits, yet you care enough to worry about the fanbase of Calzaghe?

-AC

Caps Conscience
Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
Why does saying 'Calzaghe is the worst boxer on the planet' require an intelligent counter?

I could see your point if that where all I stated. My argument has been solidified in the first two pages of this thread. Seems to me like you guys already know that Zaghe isn't the real deal and are trying make this thread about something else. wink

Caps Conscience
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
You could care less about us Brits, yet you care enough to worry about the fanbase of Calzaghe?

-AC


Thats where his fan base is.....................Genius roll eyes (sarcastic)

Alpha Centauri
How is him not being as good as everyone says equal to him being the single worst boxer on this planet?

You are suggesting there is NO boxer whom he is better than, and yet, no boxer has been able to beat him in 10 years.

How does this claim work? What IS your claim? "He's overrated.", or "He's the worst boxer out of all the boxers on Earth."?

-AC

Caps Conscience
Originally posted by Deano
not forgetting this gem of a thread

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=471632&highlight=hatton+forumid%3A71+userid%3A29081

Oh that thread brings back memories. I'm still LOL over how mad some of you guys where getting.

Caps Conscience
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
How is him not being as good as everyone says equal to him being the single worst boxer on this planet?

You are suggesting there is NO boxer whom he is better than, and yet, no boxer has been able to beat him in 10 years.

How does this claim work? What IS your claim? "He's overrated.", or "He's the worst boxer out of all the boxers on Earth."?

-AC

Did you skip the part where I CLEARLY pointed out that a lot of the stuff I say is for strictly for SHOCK value.

jaden101
Originally posted by Caps Conscience
You can't be serius when you compare the B-Hops and Calzaghe's resume it is very lopsided. B-Hop has KOed 2 boxing hall of famers (Oscar Delahoya and Tito Trinidad) and outpointed another Hall of Famer in Winky Wright not only that but he jumped up 2 divisions to beat the linear lightheavy weight champ after the age 40. All this after defending his title 20 consecutive times(against the likes of William Joppy, Antwan Echols, Howard Eastman, Segundo Mercado and the list goes on) . Zaghe has defended 20+ times, but he also ducked a Prime Hopkins and Roy Jones Jr. and now that these guys are noticeably past their respective primes he is looking for big money fights against them.<----these actions make him a fraud in my eyes.



can't be serious?...there's only 1 thing we need to take into account...Calzaghe schooled Hopkins...it was always on the cards...to say it's because Hopkins is over the hill when Calzaghe is 36 years old himself is a bit of a bizarre point to make....he beat Kessler in what you would consider his prime

wow...Hopkins beat De la Hoya....not saying De la Hoya isn't a good fighter...but when you actually examine his career....he's never beaten any of the top opponents he went up against

as for the likes of Joppy....who?...look at his last 5 fights before Bute...the people he fought were useless...the 5 of them in there 6 fights each before Joppy...that's 30 fights in total...won a total of 3 between them....top notch opponents

same applies to Antwun Echols...useless fighter...shows in his last 6 fights...hasn't won since 2004....lost or drew as many as he has since Hopkins...against nobodies

Eastman...lost 5 of his last 7

Mercado...won 1 of his last 9 since hopkins in the last 13 years..

yes...all top drawer fighters....well played

oh

and Calzaghe beat Hopkins

now on the other hand we'll look at Calzaghe's opponents, opponents

Kessler...beat Mundine...who since that fight has won all of his fights

beat Andrade...who has only ever lost to Kessler

Jeff Lacy...only ever lost to Calzaghe...although he got that much of a whooping that hes only fought twice since



still proving himself as in...hasn't proved himself at all...because he hasn't fought anyone of note at all....he should fight Andre Ward or Anthony Dirrell...both around the same weight...ish...both good prospects



I dont have to defend him....the fact that he's undisputed champion of one of the most competetive weight divisions in boxing is defence enough...the fact that he's held a title for over 10 years is defence enough

Alpha Centauri
Originally posted by Caps Conscience
Did you skip the part where I CLEARLY pointed out that a lot of the stuff I say is for strictly for SHOCK value.

It's not shocking, it's just stupid and it makes you look like a complete idiot, far from someone who's educated in boxing.

"I'm gonna make ridiculous claims, then call people idiots, then argue those claims, but I don't mean 'em.".

-AC

Victor Von Doom
Originally posted by Caps Conscience
I could see your point if that where all I stated. My argument has been solidified in the first two pages of this thread. Seems to me like you guys already know that Zaghe isn't the real deal and are trying make this thread about something else. wink

Couldn't give a shit about the man. Just noticed you were being foolish.

Originally posted by Caps Conscience
There is reason the threads that I make go atleast three pages deep and it's the shock aspect of them.

Shock? Or Bs.

Whirlysplat's done all that, more effectively. He was a **** as well.

DigiMark007
Also, threads going 3 pages aren't a success if half of it is telling people why you are being a jerk.

And since I get bashed for not staying on topic (though bashing seems just as on-topic as boxing in this thread, so meh). I can't speak to Zag's full record, but I do know that he has fought at least a few very legitimate fights. I see no reason to trash an undefeated champion who regularly defends his title against quality competition. No one's saying he's among the greatest ever, but wins are wins.

geshien
if Calzaghe is the worst boxer ever, what does that make all the boxers he's beaten? just sayin...

Victor Von Doom
Logic isn't relevant, as it was all for shock value. You've been shocked!

BackFire
Originally posted by Caps Conscience
Look man, this thread is about why I think Calzaghe sucks. Either you agree or don't. I don't want to go back and forth with about anything.................really, because quite frankly, I think you're a douche. Now put your opinion up or leave me alone.

You've been warned before about attacking and insulting members; particularly mods. This is a final warning, do anything like this again and you will be banned permanently.

As far as this thread goes, it's garbage. It's an obvious bait thread in which no real argument was presented during the original post, it's full of lazy hyperbole that serves no purpose other than to just be obnoxious.

As such - Closed.

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