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Is it Klingon's or Borg, tell me what is your favorite villain or villainous race?

Borg.

They still scare me shitless and I'm 18.

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Wrong post in wrong thread.

Oh, on this topic I say Khan Noonien Singh.

Q. He may not be an actual enemy, per se, but he has always been an incredible thorn in the side of the members of The Enterprise.

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
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Wrong post in wrong thread.

Oh, on this topic I say Khan Noonien Singh.


I loved Khan. I'd say though the Klingons were excellent and my fav villains in all of Trek, Second only to the Dominion

I always liked those worm things that tried to take over the Federation. I can't remember the name of the episode though.

It was a two parter that ended with a cliffhanger. The worms were sending a signal somewhere into deep space........

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
I always liked those worm things that tried to take over the Federation. I can't remember the name of the episode though.

It was a two parter that ended with a cliffhanger. The worms were sending a signal somewhere into deep space........

That was the good episode called Conspiracy




The Borg kicked some arse.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
I always liked those worm things that tried to take over the Federation. I can't remember the name of the episode though.

It was a two parter that ended with a cliffhanger. The worms were sending a signal somewhere into deep space........

I always wondered why they didn't have a follow up episode to that one. That was a good episode.

My favorite villain has to be that motor oil monster that ate Ryker and killed Yar, Armus.

http://images.wikia.com/memoryalpha/en/images/thumb/5/58/Armus.jpg/210px-Armus.jpg

Originally posted by illadelph12
I always wondered why they didn't have a follow up episode to that one. That was a good episode.

My favorite villain has to be that motor oil monster that ate Ryker and killed Yar, Armus.

http://images.wikia.com/memoryalpha/en/images/thumb/5/58/Armus.jpg/210px-Armus.jpg



I liked Armus, he was a sad creature

Borgs eat your souls.

Originally posted by illadelph12
I always wondered why they didn't have a follow up episode to that one. That was a good episode.

My favorite villain has to be that motor oil monster that ate Ryker and killed Yar, Armus.

http://images.wikia.com/memoryalpha/en/images/thumb/5/58/Armus.jpg/210px-Armus.jpg

Same here! Loved that episode. But I also sorta sympathised with Armus, he did seem so sad. No excuse to eat people though

I guess its the borg....although i think i like Q just as much

on a personal level, khan... but for the federation? nobody scares an admiral quite like the borg... they're the ultimate imo...

Did you know they tied Q into the original series? it was a novel...i am having a hard time remembering........when i do or if someone else remembers. i will post it

Originally posted by starlock
Did you know they tied Q into the original series? it was a novel...i am having a hard time remembering........when i do or if someone else remembers. i will post it

i think i heard something like that, but it was a long time ago...

Originally posted by Raoul
i think i heard something like that, but it was a long time ago...

Something happened to Q which spread his consiouness thruout space and time...and they told the story of when kirk and crew encountered a entity(i cant say for sure but i think it had to do with a cat and Liberatchi*piano player) that the enitity was Q just gaining his awareness or somthing?

Originally posted by starlock
Something happened to Q which spread his consiouness thruout space and time...and they told the story of when kirk and crew encountered a entity(i cant say for sure but i think it had to do with a cat and Liberatchi*piano player) that the enitity was Q just gaining his awareness or somthing?

sounds cool...

The Borg Queen, Tribbles, and Lor.

data's evil twin... he was awesome...

Khan!!!!!!!!!!!!!

He was a great villain, the Borg are the best villain race IMO

there have been a few species in it that were great that probably couldn't be considered enemies...cant remember the name of the episode but it was the next generation...they came across a planet when everything had been wiped out except 1 house and garden...when the enterprise begin to investigate they keep getting attacked by a ship that appears out of nowhere...turns out the being on the planet was some kind of uber omnipotent god type species who had tried to give up his powers when he married a woman on the planet...the planet had started to get attacked by the same ships attacking the enterprise (although at some point in the past) and the beings wife was killed trying to fight...he then recreated her and their home on the destroyed planet and eliminated the entire species that attacked his planet with a single thought...billions of them in a thought...

as for other proper bad guys...the borg and species 8472...

Originally posted by jaden101
there have been a few species in it that were great that probably couldn't be considered enemies...cant remember the name of the episode but it was the next generation...they came across a planet when everything had been wiped out except 1 house and garden...when the enterprise begin to investigate they keep getting attacked by a ship that appears out of nowhere...turns out the being on the planet was some kind of uber omnipotent god type species who had tried to give up his powers when he married a woman on the planet...the planet had started to get attacked by the same ships attacking the enterprise (although at some point in the past) and the beings wife was killed trying to fight...he then recreated her and their home on the destroyed planet and eliminated the entire species that attacked his planet with a single thought...billions of them in a thought...

as for other proper bad guys...the borg and species 8472...

he was a duowd, or something spelled similar, and the ship that had attacked was a husnok ship, iirc...

There's no contest here for me. The Borg are hands-down the best villains in the ST franchise, and the Borg Queen is among the spookiest arch-villains in the same.

Originally posted by Raoul
he was a duowd, or something spelled similar, and the ship that had attacked was a husnok ship, iirc...

what episode and series was it?...if you dont mind my asking and if you know

and also...what episode and series was the dyson's sphere featured in....cause i've always wanted to watch those 2 episodes again

Originally posted by jaden101
what episode and series was it?...if you dont mind my asking and if you know

and also...what episode and series was the dyson's sphere featured in....cause i've always wanted to watch those 2 episodes again

the first one was called 'the survivors' and is the third episode of season 3, the dyson sphere is in 'relics' and thats the 4th episode of season 6...

Originally posted by Acrosurge
There's no contest here for me. The Borg are hands-down the best villains in the ST franchise, and the Borg Queen is among the spookiest arch-villains in the same.



TBT

Originally posted by Raoul
the first one was called 'the survivors' and is the third episode of season 3, the dyson sphere is in 'relics' and thats the 4th episode of season 6...

cheers...i looked up the dyson's sphere for the other thread...will need to check them out again

Originally posted by jaden101
cheers...i looked up the dyson's sphere for the other thread...will need to check them out again

the dyson sphere ep also had scotty, so its the business...

Originally posted by Acrosurge
There's no contest here for me. The Borg are hands-down the best villains in the ST franchise, and the Borg Queen is among the spookiest arch-villains in the same.

Loved the Borg
Hated the Queen. It gave them a face which defeated a lot of what made the Borg cool to me.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Loved the Borg
Hated the Queen. It gave them a face which defeated a lot of what made the Borg cool to me.

i agreed when i first heard of what they were doing... but after reading some of the interviews carried out, i agree that it was going to be very hard to do the story the way they wanted to without giving the borg a central figure...

Borg and Klingons. Species 8472 was a cool foe for the Borg.

Originally posted by Raoul
i agreed when i first heard of what they were doing... but after reading some of the interviews carried out, i agree that it was going to be very hard to do the story the way they wanted to without giving the borg a central figure...

A parasite always has a master parasite or queen or leader to guide the others, how else would they survive, they follow orders, look at head crabs, symbiotes, flood and borgs, all follow a master because that is there way, they attach and change other creatures to be like them, to give them a body, but they still need a figure to guide them.

Originally posted by starlock
I guess its the borg....although i think i like Q just as much





Starlock, are you referring to the Metrons?





Yes he was. Great seeing Brent Spiner play doubles and triples

Worf, and I'll tell you why.

Picard: Worf, lock on all phasers and FIRE!

Worf: Honour, duty, glory, honour, honour, honour

Riker: Data, what do you make of it?

Data: It's a berilyium sphere with a density of 9.993 gigahertz

Riker: Worf, did our phasers have any effect?

Worf: HONOUR! Die in Battle, honour, honour, honour, duty.

Picard: Ensign Crusher, reverse course, warp 7, engage!

Geordi, over the comm from engineering: Captain, we have intruders that seem to have beamed directly to engineering from the enemy vessel

Picard: Worf, get down there with a security team!

Worf: Honour, duty, glory honour, honour, honour.

I bought the dvd set of the whole TNG series, and I have yet to watch a single episode that centers around Worf or any of that Klingon infighting drama. I love Star Trek, but my stomach turns when I hear Worf speak, or any Klingon for that matter. You could literally cut and paste dialouge from any Klingon story line into another Klingon story arc and the change would be bearly noticeable.

Originally posted by Neo Darkhalen
A parasite always has a master parasite or queen or leader to guide the others, how else would they survive, they follow orders, look at head crabs, symbiotes, flood and borgs, all follow a master because that is there way, they attach and change other creatures to be like them, to give them a body, but they still need a figure to guide them.

yeah, exactly...

Originally posted by Devil King
Worf, and I'll tell you why.

Picard: Worf, lock on all phasers and FIRE!

Worf: Honour, duty, glory, honour, honour, honour

Riker: Data, what do you make of it?

Data: It's a berilyium sphere with a density of 9.993 gigahertz

Riker: Worf, did our phasers have any effect?

Worf: HONOUR! Die in Battle, honour, honour, honour, duty.

Picard: Ensign Crusher, reverse course, warp 7, engage!

Geordi, over the comm from engineering: Captain, we have intruders that seem to have beamed directly to engineering from the enemy vessel

Picard: Worf, get down there with a security team!

Worf: Honour, duty, glory honour, honour, honour.

I bought the dvd set of the whole TNG series, and I have yet to watch a single episode that centers around Worf or any of that Klingon infighting drama. I love Star Trek, but my stomach turns when I hear Worf speak, or any Klingon for that matter. You could literally cut and paste dialouge from any Klingon story line into another Klingon story arc and the change would be bearly noticeable.



they have a small vocabulary, because they're either drunk, or like worf, incredibly repressed... they don't have to engage in complicated idle conversation if they're hammered, or again like worf, too repressed to form a fun sentence...

worf has some great one liners though...

Gul Dukat. IMO, the best villain in Star Trek History. No other villain was as complex or deep.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Gul Dukat. IMO, the best villain in Star Trek History. No other villain was as complex or deep.

i thought winn was a very good villain too... weyoun as well, him and dukat as a double act were great imo...

For persons, I pick that goofy looking kid with the powers, Charlie Evans. Immaturity mixed with crazy powers is some volatility right there. There are a lot to choose from but that's just one of my picks.

For races, I choose Borg. They were an enemy that inspired hopelessness. They were super organized, their ships could run on their rims and were still to be feared, and how are you supposed to out think and out strategize billions of minds? Game over, man, game over.

I say it in the past tense because later it seemed to be more of out foxing the queen and the drones were just a bunch of dodos that couldn't get up if you pushed them on their back.

Originally posted by Neo Darkhalen
A parasite always has a master parasite or queen or leader to guide the others, how else would they survive, they follow orders, look at head crabs, symbiotes, flood and borgs, all follow a master because that is there way, they attach and change other creatures to be like them, to give them a body, but they still need a figure to guide them.
One of the things that got me back when I was younger was that they had no leader. It was like one cybernetic organism that spanned galaxies.

Originally posted by Raoul
they have a small vocabulary, because they're either drunk, or like worf, incredibly repressed... they don't have to engage in complicated idle conversation if they're hammered, or again like worf, too repressed to form a fun sentence...

worf has some great one liners though...

Klingons might have a small vocabulary, but how about consideration of the viewing audience? I can't be alone in huffing everytime a klingon epidose comes up on the menu. It's the same huffing I did while watching the needlessly consistent slow=mo shots in 300. I wanted a refund 20 minutes into that movie. I just have to seriously wonder what is going on in the minds of guys who go to conventions dressed as klingons or actually learn to speak the language. I feel sorry for them. But, I also hated the movie Braveheart, so...

He does have some good one liners. I just watched Qpid and I thought it was great when he smashed Gerodi's lyre and then apologized for doing it.

Originally posted by Raoul
i thought winn was a very good villain too... weyoun as well, him and dukat as a double act were great imo... QFT. The Kai was so political you just wanted to wring her neck! And her jealousy of Sisko as the Emissary was interesting (as it constantly threatened her political power) and it was especially cool when she was pushed to seek Sisko's help because of the Dominion war.

And Weyoun... he's just awesome. So slimy, slick, intelligent, and yet you can't kill the guy because he's either prepared for it politically or he'll just be replaced by another clone.

Lor was always a favourite.

Has to be Gul Dukat the guy had charisma, was incredibly devious and always forming complex plans.....Then he actually pretends to be a bajoran a race who he exploited and victimized, this truly was the icing on the cake.

Originally posted by Acrosurge


And Weyoun... he's just awesome. So slimy, slick, intelligent, and yet you can't kill the guy because he's either prepared for it politically or he'll just be replaced by another clone.

I agree completely with this one. Weyoun scared the crap out of me in one episode... its the voice and the eyes...

Originally posted by Devil King
Klingons might have a small vocabulary, but how about consideration of the viewing audience? I can't be alone in huffing everytime a klingon epidose comes up on the menu. It's the same huffing I did while watching the needlessly consistent slow=mo shots in 300. I wanted a refund 20 minutes into that movie. I just have to seriously wonder what is going on in the minds of guys who go to conventions dressed as klingons or actually learn to speak the language. I feel sorry for them. But, I also hated the movie Braveheart, so...

He does have some good one liners. I just watched Qpid and I thought it was great when he smashed Gerodi's lyre and then apologized for doing it.



i agree to an extent, though in ds9 i thought he came into his own big time...

Originally posted by JayJohn85
Has to be Gul Dukat the guy had charisma, was incredibly devious and always forming complex plans.....Then he actually pretends to be a bajoran a race who he exploited and victimized, this truly was the icing on the cake.


I loved Dukat..

Khhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannnnnnnn
nn......!!!!!!!

Borg Queen - Cunning and Sadistic

Originally posted by Raoul


i agree to an extent, though in ds9 i thought he came into his own big time... http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j241/Badabing_2006/vghcb7.gif


biscuits

havent read thru thread but mine from books is emperor tiberius...Ive read most of the books..he makes kahn look like a biotch...lol

My Favorite was "Harcourt Fenton Mudd" he was a real pimp and there is no greater weapon, to any species, than the Female.

Originally posted by Lycanthrope
My Favorite was "Harcourt Fenton Mudd" he was a real pimp and there is no greater weapon, to any species, than the Female.


remember the ep with his mother? i constantly laugh everytime i watch that episode

Jojo Krako

That whole episode kraks me up.

1.Species 8472
2.Hirojen
3.Borg

Personally, I think the Borg was the best idea for a villain that Star Trek ever made.

Originally posted by starlock
Did you know they tied Q into the original series? it was a novel...i am having a hard time remembering........when i do or if someone else remembers. i will post it Don't know if this was posted yet but here's the reference. The character's name was Trelane and it was in "The Squire Of Gothos".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trelane

Originally posted by Badabing
Don't know if this was posted yet but here's the reference. The character's name was Trelane and it was in "The Squire Of Gothos".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trelane


i liked that episode.

Originally posted by Jack Daniels
havent read thru thread but mine from books is emperor tiberius...Ive read most of the books..he makes kahn look like a biotch...lol
Ya' know I think I liked that series. wasn't that the one Shattner wrote himself?

Khan; then maybe the Salt Vampire (hey that thing was scary when I was a kid)...

Quark.


If he is not a villain he should be.

Borg always and forever, they are probably the most powerful villains I have ever seen in the Star trek universe and they are scary as hell and some of the borg episodes are the best I've ever seen Whenever the federation came across the borg they always seem have to think outside the box to find ways on how they can defeat the borg, like the time Will Riker split the saucer on the enterprise D section to take on the borg cube. The saucer section hasn't ever been used for combat as far as I know and even it has, that would be the first time it seems to have been used for combat reasons.

Gul Dukat was good especially when he became a good guy for a little while

Originally posted by starlock
Did you know they tied Q into the original series? it was a novel...i am having a hard time remembering........when i do or if someone else remembers. i will post it

It was Trelane. Apparently he was a member of the Continuum.

And me personally? Khan. Shatner screaming his name always gets me. The Romulans got kind of cool until Nemesis came along and ruined them for me.