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if star wars could be done over, what would you pick to add/leave out?

my choice=gun guns, and ewoks. make ewoks huge wampa like creatures that brutally destroy both sides, and make gun guns intelligent, more realistically designed creatures that it is actually believeable that they could take out a droid army.

amidalla: Many gunguns may die...
Qui Gonn: YES!! THE FREAKIN tARDS DESERVE IT ALREADY!!!!

two things?

the words GEORGE and LUCAS

He made it and ruined it. Sounds fair enough.

I'm with Vintage.

Originally posted by Lord Knightfa11
and make gun guns intelligent, more realistically designed creatures that it is actually believeable that they could take out a droid army.

They are more believable than freaing ewoks who only had stones and bows and arrows... oh yeah and a few tree logs... At least the gungans had a bit more development in their army like shields... after those went down, they got bitchslapped anyway

The gungans didn't take out the droid army, did they? They wre about to surrender when the control ship was blown up.

yeah thus they're more believable than some teddybears with stones and sticks beating a legion of the empire's best troops

wasn't that supposed to be the 501st?

Take away the Gungans inherent speech impediment and they're cartoony, kid-friendly look.

Make the Ewoks more Wookieish without the high-pitched voices, the cute cuddly look, and give 'em some vibroblades or something.

well, i can understand the rebellion strike team getting a little help from the ewoks in the way of food, supplies, scouting teams, and knowledge of terrain, but, they should DEFENITELY not have given them the ability to take out an AT-ST I read a comic where they were bloodthirsty vengeful creatures that would lure 1 trooper away from camp at a time, and then kill him and eat him. Also in star wars infinities, they were a wild animal that attacked both sides. but we all know how cannon THAT is....

The gunguns are a racial slur against africans. The way they talk is so close to the southern/black speach, and then they walk like the ghetto gangbangers. ANd then George lucas had to make them stupid. THAT IS A RACIAL SLUR!!! Hello? does anyone else see the insult to a few cultures? The GunGuns could have been an intelligent, cunning race, instead of stupid people that were a racial slur against good american people.

Originally posted by Lord Knightfa11
The gunguns are a racial slur against africans. The way they talk is so close to the southern/black speach, and then they walk like the ghetto gangbangers. ANd then George lucas had to make them stupid. THAT IS A RACIAL SLUR!!! Hello? does anyone else see the insult to a few cultures? The GunGuns could have been an intelligent, cunning race, instead of stupid people that were a racial slur against good american people.
No I don't. I guess I'm not seeing racism on every corner and in every phrase.
Kids and mentaly deranged have speech problems, so what? Southern/black speach sounds different, so what?
Y'know if he made the gungans smart some other guys would complain he was a racist because now the whites weren't that smart. It's not cause the guy that played him was black, the gungans are black. Vader's voice is from James Earl Jones but a white dude plays him.

Originally posted by vintageSW77
two things?

the words GEORGE and LUCAS

this post is made of pure win

Gungans werent the first things that could be intepreted as a racial slur. Who didn't get a medal?

Put George in lead of the Creative Committee.

The Neimodians were cowardly businessmen with an Asian accent.

The Gungans were primitive freaks with gangly arms and floppy heads, with a Rastafarian accent.

Watto was a petty slaveowner and dishonest junk dealer with a gambling addiction who owned an Eastern European accent.

Jango and Boba are ruthless bounty hunters, with the clones being just as ruthless without emotion, all with Australian accents.

The Imperials are typically totalitarian, structured, proper and despotic, most with British accents.

Most of the main good guys are typically American accented.


People with nothing important to b*tch and complain about point out how Star Wars is a racist science-fiction space opera.

They kiwi's mate.

toMAYto toMAHto.

Racist bastard.

Quite.

lmao..... Well that sux, i guess lando did deserve a medal. I think the medals were only for the characters whe appeared throughout all III ot movies....

Chewie never got one.

didn't he get one in anh?

Nope. Still just wearing his bandolier.

He gets the last line of the film...thats what the actor who played him pointed out

hmm. he is kind of an animal before tehy had all the eu and then episode III to make his kind more intelligent and sophisticated, and not just big bears with a primitive language. Maybe they considered him an animal?

Originally posted by steverules
He gets the last line of the film...thats what the actor who played him pointed out

So he gets to roar while the others get a medal. Sounds like racism to me.

Originally posted by queeq
So he gets to roar while the others get a medal. Sounds like racism to me.

The guy who plays him seemed rather satisfied with it...besides if they gave Chewie a medal he'd probably try and it or use it as a chew toy...he might even try and bury it

That's another racial slur. Wookies are not dogs. They have rights too.

Originally posted by steverules
The guy who plays him seemed rather satisfied with it...

Someone PLAYED Chewbacca???!! What are you saying, Chewie's not real??!! INFIDEL!!!

i dont think it can be racism if your racist against a surreal race like wookies..

I think the term is specist.

w/e

Okay, so basically, there is no racism in Star Wars. Not deliberately. That's trying too hard.

As for Gungans (not gun guns) and Ewoks, I could care less. It's how George wanted to do it, so be it.

doesnt stop them from being stupid.

Amen.

i think ewoks are racist against italians

Anything else new?

Prolly not.

thought not. Now im going to ramble about eu and get this thread closed. thank me later.

I will.

did you know that in cutscene numer 23 variation B if you play the female with the bun in the back and are wearing a grey jedi knights robe, a bug appears that ACTUALLY makes your mom look fatter then she is?

huh?

haha he doesnt get it.

unfortunately, im not going to ramble incomprehensibly about eu anymore, for fear of banning !

ban him anyway

awww....

Originally posted by Schecter
ban him anyway

Good point. Better safe than sorry.

:/

Hehehe

as i said somewhere else, i will come back with sock after sock and haunt you for forever MWUAHAHAHA

As I said somewhere: I have the mod manual.

:I

Indeed.

Good... now back in your doghouse.

Grrr. *bites hand off of queeq*

*laughs becaue of use of hand armour*

*slaps dog senseless*

dog picks up the phone and dials the ASPCA (hey, this is the dog who can log into a forum, socialize, debate, and knows what the word "convey" means, don't think he can't talk on the phone as well.)

Blowing your own trumpet?

Jar jar binks...chairI hate him with such a passion.

And all you use is a chair?

Originally posted by queeq
Blowing your own trumpet?

got a problem with that?

You want an honest answer?

i don't care.

Neither do I.

Maybe you lovers should get a room?

I have two:

Midichlorians

Hayden Christensen

well they had to have one way to sense how powerful anakin was scientifically. that is what midichlorions are for.

*sigh* Unfortunately.

1. Padme somehow not ageing - and falling for Anakin despite him looking like a 5 yr old in ep 1 - Paedo

2. Ewoks - Lucas running out of ideas and decides to cut Wookies in half and somehow give them the ability to take down an elite imperial storm troopers.

Theres plenty more - these 2 sprang to mind first.

Sounds fair.

Now that I think about it, the OT problems are of bigger impact, what with the OT being naturally superior in the first place.

1. The ewoks... I don't blame them, but their billionaire creator is certainly at fault for appealing to children. In fact, the entire battle on Endor kinda blew (in hindsight, it's great if you don't think about it). That's ON Endor by the way, I liked all the stuff in space above it.

2. That would be the only beef I have with the OT, had Lucas not developed the Special Edition. Out of the extra add-ons: Han not shooting first, Boba's voice, the CGI of Mos Eisley, and those BASTARD vocalists in Jabba's palace. I don't count Hayden being thrown in there as a ghost to be a problem, it means no nevermind to me.

How could anyone not like the Ewoks? They are perhaps the cutest sentient bears in the galaxy!

I thought it was realistic (for Star Wars) by how the Ewoks utilized brains and tools against the stupid Stormtroopers.

Please don't tell me you never felt like crying when that one Ewok was shot and his friend was checking on his poor buddy..what a tear jerker...

Awweee...

Or the cutesie Ewok baby....


I'm no Ewok fan, but I don't mind them that much. JarJar as a tool to please kids was a far greater offense IMHO.

Originally posted by queeq
Awweee...

Or the cutesie Ewok baby....


I'm no Ewok fan, but I don't mind them that much. JarJar as a tool to please kids was a far greater offense IMHO.

When I was younger I would pause on the baby Ewok because it was so cute!!

Yeah, I think they should have toned Jar Jar down a bit...

A bit?

At least it was slightly more feasible with the Gungans taking out a small army - not the Ewoks who took out in the Emperors own words "my best troops" on Endor with sticks and stones.

The only reason I cried was because I couldn't believe Lucas put Ewoks in ROTJ in the first place. Very nearly ruined the whole movie for me.

Little sh1ts!!

but the gungans didn't take it out! they hid behind their shields and then they sent in some cavalry and when the shield was done they flet. They won becase the droids powered down... the ewoks won without fleeing and having luck; that is the problem

Plus... they had a moment of advantage due to JarJar's clumsiness.

Originally posted by Jovan
but the gungans didn't take it out! they hid behind their shields and then they sent in some cavalry and when the shield was done they flet. They won becase the droids powered down... the ewoks won without fleeing and having luck; that is the problem

Agreed but their assault was a little more believable as they actually had weapons, shield and a relatively small organised army.

The Ewoks seemingly went into battle mode with no notice - and won with sticks and stones....STICKS AND FKING STONES!!!

Somone should have dabbled some rat poison on that food bar Leia gives to the little ****

Ok I feel much better now.

Good... now we can continue.

Originally posted by GahLakTus
Agreed but their assault was a little more believable as they actually had weapons, shield and a relatively small organised army.

The Ewoks seemingly went into battle mode with no notice - and won with sticks and stones....STICKS AND FKING STONES!!!

Somone should have dabbled some rat poison on that food bar Leia gives to the little ****

Ok I feel much better now.
you are right in that The ewoks also had spears I believe and treelogs; but that wouldn't explain beating the stormtroopers

Originally posted by GahLakTus
Agreed but their assault was a little more believable as they actually had weapons, shield and a relatively small organised army.

The Ewoks seemingly went into battle mode with no notice - and won with sticks and stones....STICKS AND FKING STONES!!!

Somone should have dabbled some rat poison on that food bar Leia gives to the little ****

Ok I feel much better now.

Don't forget about the Rebels that helped them.

Originally posted by sweersa
Don't forget about the Rebels that helped them.

They were heavily outnumbered by the storm troopers - and had pretty limited weaponry.

Originally posted by GahLakTus
They were heavily outnumbered by the storm troopers - and had pretty limited weaponry.

They had camouflage and long range rifles while the Stormtroopers had blasters and wore almost all white.

The Ewoks are also obviously familar with the enviornment as the Stormtroopers are not.

Originally posted by sweersa
They had camouflage and long range rifles while the storm troopers had blasters and wore almost all white.

They were also some of the Emperors best troops - and don't forget the Imperial walkers whose fire power alone should have wiped those bloody Ewoks out.

It's juts an overidealised battle, folks.

they should have given the storm troopers camo variant armor like in rots kashykk.

Errr..... right.

The Gungans suck too, but at least their small, semi-organized army with primitive plasma technology was actually DEFEATED.

The Teddy Bears armed with STICK AND F*CKING STONES are the ones who did the defeating of the "best troops."

Common, Han Solo and Chewbacca were also among the Ewoks! Not to mention the AT-ST Chewie and friends stole and used to kick some Imperial butt.

They didn't even see it coming.

lol you are just a hardcore star wars fan, arencha?

Yup :-)

that could be a complement or an insult.

In here we call it a compliment. As long as he doesn't start dressing up like a Jedi.

Originally posted by queeq


He made it and ruined it. Sounds fair enough. Too true.

Yes.

Originally posted by queeq
In here we call it a compliment. As long as he doesn't start dressing up like a Jedi.

I coreograph an occaisional lightsaber fight.

*takes off his Jedi robe....*

Originally posted by Lord Knightfa11
I coreograph an occaisional lightsaber fight.

One time we filmed it and put it on youtube.

It was for fun so please don't make fun of it :-P

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQR_XTmUVYg

(School project btw)

im happy to see that i make the best videos out of anyone on this forum

So Sweersa is Dutch...
Why didn't you animate the lightsabres?

Thing One- Hayden Christensen. He made Anakin aka Mr. Moronic Emo sound like a bored teenager.

Thing Two- Ewoks. At least the Gungans were genuinely amusing, and were actually defeated- while the ewoks, beings who can't even talk in basic, beat the Empire's best troops (the 501st, no?)

You people who say "George Lucas ruined Star wars lol"... well, to be honest, I think it's kind of stupid to ***** about the person who, without him, none of us would be here. He's the one we should thank for having Star Wars, not ***** about him.

Originally posted by queeq
So Sweersa is Dutch...
Why didn't you animate the lightsabres?

The person who directed that "movie" wanted "Sword Fight" in dutch for whatever reason, thus it is "Zwaard Strijd" lol

But I do happen to be half Dutch (Born and raised in the US) :-P

I actually had to try really hard to convince the "Director" to have a lightsaber, he let me do one. To rotoscope the other sword to have a lightsaber effect would have taken me twice as long anyways and we didn't have the time as it was a typical rushed school project.

Lets just say it was a sword protected by magic or something and thats why it couldn't be cut by my lightsaber! Now I sound like an EU author, hahaha.

Originally posted by Sidi-Boy
You people who say "George Lucas ruined Star wars lol"... well, to be honest, I think it's kind of stupid to ***** about the person who, without him, none of us would be here. He's the one we should thank for having Star Wars, not ***** about him.


not at all
the Star Wars of today isnt the Star Wars that ended in 83
hes ruined the vibe that was Star Wars year after year since
3 years on after the release of ROTS and nearly 10 since TPM its quite easy to cast the PT aside as if they were just a bunch of bad dreams

and quite a few of us have


JOIN US!

Give yourself to the Dark Side...

no! ill never join you! you killed my father!

Sometimes you can't show an old dog new tricks. lol


IMO both trilogies have their ups and downs. I personally enjoy all six Star Wars films.

I am only upset a tad at GL for not having Qui-Gon in episodes 2 and 3, and for not doing a Sequel Trilogy with the original cast...

The end of ROTJ seemed like we were just getting the tip of the iceberg of what was yet to have come.

Oh well, gotta accept things as they are.

really, so you want a movie based on DE? thats misguided.

Whats DE?

o, sorry. EU.

Originally posted by Lord Knightfa11
o, sorry. EU.

Its cool. I don't want a movie based on the EU. I just wish GL could make three movies about how the Jedi Order is rebuilt, and such.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sequel_trilogy

Jar Jar Binks and Fanboys


QUEEQ!


see ya in another 6 months baby

*gasps*


JP!!!!! The love of my life!!!

the gender is "unspecified" but then, so is yours. Am i supposed to assume you are male?

Queeq is located in JP's bed...

I always wondered what that meant.

me 2

Originally posted by sweersa
Queeq is located in JP's bed...

I always wondered what that meant.

I thought it was pretty obvious.

Originally posted by queeq
I thought it was pretty obvious.

Is she your wife?

Originally posted by sweersa
Is she your wife?

Thou shalt not imply our brothel would have committed an act of permarital sex?!?!

Thy accusations are without root and thou would be wise not to talk any further.

What's Sesse been smoking?

Originally posted by queeq
What's Sesse been smoking?

Who knows. Is she JP really your wife Queeq?

Whatcha think?

Originally posted by queeq
Whatcha think?

Yes. I think that is so. But I still don't know for sure as you didn't tell us yet.

6 months? Are either of you in the service?

Service???? What the... ?

priestess is married to queeq???!!!...I missed that!!!!!!!!!! was it a milk bar hosted wedding? were drinks free?

no. *slap*. Drinks are never free. Unless they are on me. Have a correlian ale.

Originally posted by queeq
Service???? What the... ?

Service = Military. Sorry.

Originally posted by Lord Knightfa11
no. *slap*. Drinks are never free. Unless they are on me. Have a correlian ale.

ouch.....drinks use to be free now and then?...thanks for the romulan ale though!...I mean correlian...hehe

its correllian.
Any romulan ale I give you is a micky.

you mean the wide mouth green bottled beer? Ill drink that...beer

micky finn. it'l knock you on your butt and you die... just cause its romulans and IIII HAAATEEE STAAAAR TREEEEKKKK!!!!!!

Originally posted by sweersa
Service = Military. Sorry.

I know... it still doesn't make sense.

whats up wih all these retards who are on topic?

sith master needs a drink

Originally posted by queeq
I know... it still doesn't make sense.

Umm, you said you were away from JP for like 6 months. I assumed you were connected to her in some way, and 6 months is a long time. I figured the Military would be a good reason to be away from a loved one for so long.

On the other hand, if you would be so kind as to just tell us that would be appreciated if you so desire to do so.

Originally posted by Lord Knightfa11
whats up wih all these retards who are on topic?

That's mature of you to call other people retards over the internet.

And trust me, when I first joined these forums 4 years ago, you had your head sewn to the carpet if you weren't on topic.

Originally posted by Sith Master X
That's mature of you to call other people retards over the internet.

And trust me, when I first joined these forums 4 years ago, you had your head sewn to the carpet if you weren't on topic.

Your avatar matches your sig.

Thats BA.

Originally posted by Sith Master X
That's mature of you to call other people retards over the internet.

at least you arent having a hard time containing your anger.


But this isn't four years aggo THis is now.

With that in mind:
Queeq, whats your favorite beer?

Depends on the mood. I drink mainly Dutch beer (since I am Dutch), preferably Grolsch, Amstel or Brand... but then the heavier Belgian beers from monasteries are welcome changes.


Originally posted by sweersa
Umm, you said you were away from JP for like 6 months. I assumed you were connected to her in some way, and 6 months is a long time. I figured the Military would be a good reason to be away from a loved one for so long.

On the other hand, if you would be so kind as to just tell us that would be appreciated if you so desire to do so.

I love Grolsch!!!!! beer is my fav green bottled beer ever!!!!! they quit selling in my area for awhile I whined to local stores and they ended getting it back....sunday is my beer and hotwings day Im buying a 2 pack on sunday since you brought it up! Queeq knows his brew! I knew there was a reason you were so kewl!

There are many reasons... hehehe.

2 sundays in a row and no grolsch...truly sux.....waiting for them to order em....manager said he would...waiting....smoker impatiently...lol

You should move to another country. The export stuff is somewhat more watery than the local brew anyway.

Originally posted by queeq





You are killing me here buddy.

I know.

I had a grolsch 2 pack finally! darn stuff is higher priced than before though....$8.99!!!!!!!!!!!! although everything is going up so no surprise for the increase...thank goodness queeq's place doesnt charge tax..lol..!!!

2 pack for $8,99???? What a rip-off.

Hmm. Ill have to see about the emperor about the tax thing in the milk bar. you know hes not as forgiving as i am...