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He has had his power removed many times and it seems to have limits, the Q had weapons which killed each other. Who do we think would win out of a Dowd or a member of the Q. Remeber the Dowd erased an entire Race from existence with a thought.

Originally posted by Captain SEX
He has had his power removed many times and it seems to have limits, the Q had weapons which killed each other. Who do we think would win out of a Dowd or a member of the Q. Remeber the Dowd erased an entire Race from existence with a thought. I think the only way to determine such a thing would be an evaluation of feats, which would turn this into a versus battle. Is that appropriate for this forum? I'm not sure... Ah, we have Klingon vs Feds and stuff, so here goes.

I don't think that the Douwd would have the feats to compete with the Q. When angry, a Douwd devastated the surface of a world. By comparison, a stray shot from a Q attack causes a supernova as a side effect.

I don't argue against the Q lacking true omnipotence, but I do think they've more impressive showings than the single member of the Douwd we've observed. That isn't to say that the Douwd are incapable of more impressive things, only that we haven't seen them. Therefore, I'd put the Q a bit further on the omnipotence meter.

Originally posted by Acrosurge
I think the only way to determine such a thing would be an evaluation of feats, which would turn this into a versus battle. Is that appropriate for this forum? I'm not sure... Ah, we have Klingon vs Feds and stuff, so here goes.

I don't think that the Douwd would have the feats to compete with the Q. When angry, a Douwd devastated the surface of a world. By comparison, a stray shot from a Q attack causes a supernova as a side effect.



The novas were caused by Q weapons. We also know Q can die....

Originally posted by Acrosurge
When angry, a Douwd devastated the surface of a world.

"You don't understand Captain. There is no fitting punishment for my crime. I killed all of them -- everywhere." (paraphrased of course)

The Douwd wiped out an interstellar empire.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
"You don't understand Captain. There is no fitting punishment for my crime. I killed all of them -- everywhere." (paraphrased of course)

The Douwd wiped out an interstellar empire.

Exactly!

Originally posted by Acrosurge
I think the only way to determine such a thing would be an evaluation of feats, which would turn this into a versus battle. Is that appropriate for this forum? I'm not sure... Ah, we have Klingon vs Feds and stuff, so here goes.

I don't think that the Douwd would have the feats to compete with the Q. When angry, a Douwd devastated the surface of a world. By comparison, a stray shot from a Q attack causes a supernova as a side effect.

I don't argue against the Q lacking true omnipotence, but I do think they've more impressive showings than the single member of the Douwd we've observed. That isn't to say that the Douwd are incapable of more impressive things, only that we haven't seen them. Therefore, I'd put the Q a bit further on the omnipotence meter.

the planet was destroyed by the attacking forces i believe...although it's been a while since i watched that episode...the Douwd then destroyed that entire race throughout the galaxy...as others have said

feckin good episode though

Originally posted by Captain SEX
The novas were caused by Q weapons. We also know Q can die.... Very true. So are we assuming that a Q could not wipe out an entire civilization if he/she wanted to? And that a Douwd would be incapable of killing another Douwd?

Originally posted by Acrosurge
Very true. So are we assuming that a Q could not wipe out an entire civilization if he/she wanted to? And that a Douwd would be incapable of killing another Douwd?

No individual Q has ever done anything on that scale I have seen. Have they?

Originally posted by HARRY MUDD
No individual Q has ever done anything on that scale I have seen. Have they? Not that I've seen, but when one can casually change the gravitational constant of the universe, hang starships on Christmas trees, and transport entire crews to the beginning of the universe, I wouldn't put much past a Q.

Has anything ever limited a Q, except another Q or Q-based construct?

Originally posted by Acrosurge
Not that I've seen, but when one can casually change the gravitational constant of the universe, hang starships on Christmas trees, and transport entire crews to the beginning of the universe, I wouldn't put much past a Q.

Has anything ever limited a Q, except another Q or Q-based construct?

Everything though seems localised in my opinion. Smoke and mirrors.

Does anyone remember when Q met Guinan, they both stuck their hands up in the air at each other. Q mentioned that she was an incredibly dangerous creature and that he "had no idea". It's as if Q was worried by some of her powers or something, and yet Guinan's race was still assimilated into the Borg. Interesting... And if you want even more information about Q etc, read some of the books about him. I've got them all.

I actually have like 129 different Star Trek Novels. Along with many encyclopedias etc. (And the Spock vs. Q Cd's.)

God I'm a nerd. =\

I think that was to add more mystique to Guinan, or maybe they knew each other and were joking, which adds even more mystique. Really though, what the crap is up with Guinan? She is weird.

Originally posted by hereatlast
Does anyone remember when Q met Guinan, they both stuck their hands up in the air at each other. Q mentioned that she was an incredibly dangerous creature and that he "had no idea". It's as if Q was worried by some of her powers or something, and yet Guinan's race was still assimilated into the Borg. Interesting... And if you want even more information about Q etc, read some of the books about him. I've got them all.

I actually have like 129 different Star Trek Novels. Along with many encyclopedias etc. (And the Spock vs. Q Cd's.)

God I'm a nerd. =\ Books? What books about Q?

Originally posted by Doctor-Alvis
I think that was to add more mystique to Guinan, or maybe they knew each other and were joking, which adds even more mystique. Really though, what the crap is up with Guinan? She is weird.

two words.

whoopi goldberg.

that is all.

Lol, there quite a few books that have Q in it. I also have 350 books on Microsoft Reader. =O

If the Douwd were more omnipotent than the Q, that Douwd could have reversed what he had done to Husnock.

Originally posted by hereatlast
Lol, there quite a few books that have Q in it. I also have 350 books on Microsoft Reader. =O

i have a few, not not many q ones...

Originally posted by Robtard
If the Douwd were more omnipotent than the Q, that Douwd could have reversed what he had done to Husnock.

true...

There is no reason to suspect a Douwd could take on and beat a Q- they have killed an entire race?

Remember Q said at the beginning he was going to deny humanity existence.

Q can also time travel- and since Q says in Voyager that the Q have always been we must assume the Q have the ability to go back and time and stop the Douwd from ever coming into existence.

As for Guinan- Q said he would remove her and raised his hand, Guinan raised hers in response but there is no indication that her defenses would have been able to stop him.

Sorry, just saw the topic as "Q is not imputent" Thought it was a wierd thing to see :