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Hi all

My name is mohammad.
I am from saudi arabian.
Sorry I have poor english but I like it very much.
I love jesus (Peace be upon him) and his mother (mary) and believe him.

Her you will find all answers of your questios:

just go to this web-site........sultan.org

Our believe of:
Jesus: A very elect and highly esteemed messenger of God. No Muslim is a Muslim if he does not believe this.

Best rgds

mohammad

Hi, mohammad.

What is life like as a Christian in a Muslim country?

Actually, I think his point is that Jesus is a holy figure to Muslims as well as Christians.

Since Islam rose out of a very strong Judeo-Christian influence, many of the symbols are carried over. Its both an interesting and memetically powerful belief that has risen out of this. All former messangers of God, be them Abraham, Moses, or Jesus, are truly messngers of allah, however they recieved only incomplete revelations.

Only Mohammed recieved the full revelation, which is a catch all for any discrepancies between older theologans and Mo. I've even heard Sidhartha and other Hindu/Eastern theologans/philosophers claimed as being inspired (if not recieving the full revelations) by Allah.

Its sort of a powerful way of accepting new people and ideas into the faith, and honestly, as a meme, makes Islam much more malliable than Christianity.

Originally posted by inimalist
Actually, I think his point is that Jesus is a holy figure to Muslims as well as Christians.

Since Islam rose out of a very strong Judeo-Christian influence, many of the symbols are carried over. Its both an interesting and memetically powerful belief that has risen out of this. All former messangers of God, be them Abraham, Moses, or Jesus, are truly messngers of allah, however they recieved only incomplete revelations.

Only Mohammed recieved the full revelation, which is a catch all for any discrepancies between older theologans and Mo. I've even heard Sidhartha and other Hindu/Eastern theologans/philosophers claimed as being inspired (if not recieving the full revelations) by Allah.

Its sort of a powerful way of accepting new people and ideas into the faith, and honestly, as a meme, makes Islam much more malliable than Christianity.

Oh! Then it's just a religious predatory tactic.

if one wants to be cynical
















































































so yes, yes it is

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Oh! Then it's just a religious predatory tactic. Actually, Shaky, one must consider the guy's cultural context. He's a Saudi. Arab Muslims from that region generally think of all westerners as "Christians", so he's probably just making conversation and hoping we don't bite him. Additionally, as you well know, there are certain political/cultural/religious tensions between the US and the Middle East at present. I suspect his cautious approach to a western "Religion" forum is somewhat reflectant of this. I am encouraged that a Saudi Muslim would have the courage to engage this diverse (and often critical) group.

Originally posted by Tim Rout
Actually, Shaky, one must consider the guy's cultural context. He's a Saudi. Arab Muslims from that region generally think of all westerners as "Christians", so he's probably just making conversation and hoping we don't bite him. Additionally, as you well know, there are certain political/cultural/religious tensions between the US and the Middle East at present. I suspect his cautious approach to a western "Religion" forum is somewhat reflectant of this. I am encouraged that a Saudi Muslim would have the courage to engage this diverse (and often critical) group.

I was only talking about what inimalist said.

Originally posted by Tim Rout
Actually, Shaky, one must consider the guy's cultural context. He's a Saudi. Arab Muslims from that region generally think of all westerners as "Christians", so he's probably just making conversation and hoping we don't bite him. Additionally, as you well know, there are certain political/cultural/religious tensions between the US and the Middle East at present. I suspect his cautious approach to a western "Religion" forum is somewhat reflectant of this. I am encouraged that a Saudi Muslim would have the courage to engage this diverse (and often critical) group.

indeed

however, the meme of "Your religious figures are our religious figures" seems rather interesting

investigated from a non-muslim non-religious perspective, especially with regards to how ideas spread and propogate over time, it appears as a very predatory meme which has allowed islam to flourish and spread.

How responsible it specifically is for the spread of Islam is clearly debateable, however, it is a VERY interesting belief imho. Certainly of more interest than the traditional "we have the answers, our God(s) are the best"

I've been hearing a lot of new religions, I just found out a guy that works for us on contract is a Messianic Judaism.

I see two socks talking to himself.

Originally posted by Devil King
I see two socks talking to himself.

I'm not a sock.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I'm not a sock.

but you smell like one.

I read I love jebus at first.

Again, another insightful comment.

In reference to Mo up there...Jesus loves you to...peace be upon you.

Originally posted by Da Pittman
I've been hearing a lot of new religions, I just found out a guy that works for us on contract is a Messianic Judaism.

Is he the Emperor of the Earth?

or a reptile?

Originally posted by inimalist
Is he the Emperor of the Earth?

or a reptile?



I wonder if we would get away with worshiping Spyro the Dragon....

^sigh, no he isnt. allah in arabic = eloih in ancient hebrew. eloih was what the jews called their god among other names like YHWH. the two languages are very similar, being sister languages. eloih in hebrew truned to allah in arabic, just like shalom in hebrew turned to salam in arabic. the moon influence cant be overlooked but your oversimplifying the issue. the isa mentioned in quran IS very much jesus. isa and his mother marie and the miracle birth and the crucifixion {or lack thereof to muslims} . dont be silly, muslims knew quite well who jesus was, they wudnt be stupid to make a mistake like that. their beleif about him dying on the cross is another thing.

Originally posted by Grand_Moff_Gav
I wonder if we would get away with worshiping Spyro the Dragon....

I'd do it.

spyro is way cooler than god! sparx is even cooler. they have neat worlds, neat characters, neta powers and neat soundtracks.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
spyro is way cooler than god! sparx is even cooler. they have neat worlds, neat characters, neta powers and neat soundtracks.

God and Jesus have been in comic books

so has lucifer, and he is the COOLEST!

Originally posted by leonheartmm
so has lucifer, and he is the COOLEST!

*roars with laughter*

STOP THAT!

lucifer morningstar is the coolest comic book character ever made! and dont you ****ing forget it either!

I was just surprised you'd heard of him.

lucifer morningstar has been my favourite comic book character for YEARS. wonder how you missed that. im a huge vertigo fan and have read most of the famous works or carey/gaiman/morre/miller etc even outside vertigo. anyhows, i hope u werent being sarcastic. {btw, the guy with the snake in my siggies is also lucifer from the angel sanctuary manga.

Comic Books...

mohammad, you are under the misconception that the majority of people in the west are christians. they are not, and most definately, the majority of people on this forum are not christians. they are agnostics/athesist or follow some not so mainstream beleifs.

Originally posted by Grand_Moff_Gav
Comic Books...

can be more interesting than the bible {no offence}. i personally find lucifer and sandman more interesting than the new testament or the quran.

Originally posted by Grand_Moff_Gav
Comic Books...

Maybe the OT started out as a comic book of sorts? It certainly has similar fantastic stories.

naah, it doesnt have illustrations. those came later. besides, it WUD be a helluva lot easier and simpler to nuderstand as a comic book

Originally posted by leonheartmm
mohammad, you are under the misconception that the majority of people in the west are christians. they are not, and most definately, the majority of people on this forum are not christians. they are agnostics/athesist or follow some not so mainstream beleifs.



can be more interesting than the bible {no offence}. i personally find lucifer and sandman more interesting than the new testament or the quran.

Yeah...but you get that whole label that goes with comic books...

^you havent read sandman or lucifer or hellblazer. that is why you say what you say. read em an get back to me.

Well, I've never read a proper comic book...I read the Beano tho...aren't they expensive?

download torrents my friend . they are all there.