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This is the Punisher with the SS serum. He is equipped with an adamantium bowie knife, an m-16 and couple of hand grenades. No prep, fight takes place in a warehouse.

Bump.

So...it's Cap+Shield vs. Cap+guns+grenades+knife?

Are we also assuming that Frank is completely used to the SS? You know, has he trained extensively with it first so he's used to his new abilities?

Originally posted by Metalmanx
So...it's Cap+Shield vs. Cap+guns+grenades+knife?

Are we also assuming that Frank is completely used to the SS? You know, has he trained extensively with it first so he's used to his new abilities?
Yeah. He's had a year to practice all that. 31

Originally posted by Metalmanx
So...it's Cap+Shield vs. Cap+guns+grenades+knife?

Are we also assuming that Frank is completely used to the SS? You know, has he trained extensively with it first so he's used to his new abilities?

I dont think he would need to train with it he would notcice the benefits straight away.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
I dont think he would need to train with it he would notcice the benefits straight away.
But is he good enough to take on Cap with it? H2H skills, Combat startegy, etc.

Originally posted by Ha-Son
But is he good enough to take on Cap with it? H2H skills, Combat startegy, etc.

I think it could be a split or Cap 6/10. Cap would still be better at H2H but since Frank is still a very good MA his damage soak would make him hard to put down. Hell even without the SSS he can take alot of punches from DD and keep going.

Cap takes him down, hard and fast.

The Punisher is still nowhere near Cap in terms of skill or strategy.

Originally posted by Soljer
Cap takes him down, hard and fast.

The Punisher is still nowhere near Cap in terms of skill or strategy.

*sigh* What the hell....hes got good showings against DD and Wolverine without the SSS, why would he be taken down hard and fast?

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
*sigh* What the hell....hes got good showings against DD and Wolverine without the SSS, why would he be taken down hard and fast?

Cause that's how Cap rolls, son.

Are you questioning that, commie?

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
*sigh* What the hell....hes got good showings against DD and Wolverine without the SSS, why would he be taken down hard and fast?
Edit: NVM

Originally posted by Soljer
Cause that's how Cap rolls, son.

Are you questioning that, commie?

That doesn't explain how Cap takes down an SSS enhanced Punisher hard and fast. I reckon Cap wins because of his better H2H skills but its no curbstomp

Originally posted by Soljer
Cap takes him down, hard and fast.

The Punisher is still nowhere near Cap in terms of skill or strategy.

Agreed...

Originally posted by Faceman
Agreed...

Serioulsy? I dont have a problem with Cap winning but going down hard and fast. I dont get it. Punisher once held off Wolverine while his leg was injured and that was non-Einnis. He has several good showings against DD and some of his loses are circumstantial.

Im quite sure that Punisher with SSS would stalemate DD. For starters if you like at the first fight in Pun vs DD it ended with DD flat on his back, but the scans in the respect thread dont show that. The last fight ended with DD having a dislocated arm and a bust up face, thats all without SS then all of a sudden Cap takes him down hard and fast.....dont get it.

Originally posted by Soljer
Cap takes him down, hard and fast.

The Punisher is still nowhere near Cap in terms of skill or strategy.

Punisher head buts Cap's fist a bunch of times here.

Cap 6/10 via skillz

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
*sigh* What the hell....hes got good showings against DD and Wolverine without the SSS, why would he be taken down hard and fast?

Originally posted by Bouboumaster
Cap 6/10 via skillz

Yeah by way 6/10 Cap. 5/10 is still too high for Frank because he is not as skillful. Franks pain tolerance and skill can get him 4 wins.

As I've said before Cap for the win but not easy -probably 6-7/10 because of his better h2h skills. One thing gets me though is that some people say Frank is nowhere near Steve in strategical abilities. That is 1 area where he is definitely equal.

Originally posted by BUSTER1
One thing gets me though is that some people say Frank is nowhere near Steve in strategical abilities. That is 1 area where he is definitely equal.

Thats what I was thinking but I was thinking to myself what exactly do you mean by strategical. If you mean strategy in general there is evidence that they could be equal.

Some serious Captain America wank here.

Well, the handgrenades can assure at least a draw a few fights out of 10, depending how desperate frank is. The m-16 isnt going to do him much good, so it'll likely come down to Frank with the knife vs Cap with his shield, which I'll give to Cap.