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its speculation from a US ambassador, not fact, as your title suggests.
**** im glad you didnt post a new thread every time cheney said they were 'in their final throes' or you'd have to have your own forum.

So, then the troops will be home before the election, right?

no...they'll be in iran. then the region should be substantially ****ed. just for safe measure i think we should bomb pakistan too

Well, I'm pretty sure the region has always been ****ed. But, these's still no excuse to form diplomatic relations with our enemies. None. Ever. Kill 'em all and let Allah sort them out. (Which is something most pople don't know. If you die on his turf, you have to answer to him.)

there is no such thing as alqaeda in iraq.

sooooooooo

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080516/pl_afp/mideastusdiplomacybushsaudideals
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=2bWuRMiB2-U
http://www.democracynow.org/2008/5/20/as_us_threatens_iran_over_enriching

and

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080516/ap_on_re_mi_ea/bush_mideast



Bush = making the world safer

They've been close to defeat for about 4 years.

"Mission Accomplished".

Originally posted by Schecter
no...they'll be in iran. then the region should be substantially ****ed. just for safe measure i think we should bomb pakistan too THen McCain will be all like "Obama is inexperienced and is weak on terror, especially since he's a muslim." and neocon comedians would be like "The reason Obama is weak on terror is because he's one of them, no wonder peope think he's gonna get shot." and Hillary will be like "I told you they should've got an experienced person like me; someone with the same foreign policy as the neocons." and we'd be like "America is so ****ing retarded."

And McCain will win the nominee and the world is going to be ****ed.

Originally posted by lord xyz
THen McCain will be all like "Obama is inexperienced and is weak on terror, especially since he's a muslim." and neocon comedians would be like "The reason Obama is weak on terror is because he's one of them, no wonder peope think he's gonna get shot." and Hillary will be like "I told you they should've got an experienced person like me; someone with the same foreign policy as the neocons." and we'd be like "America is so ****ing retarded."

And McCain will win the nominee and the world is going to be ****ed.

McCain has never struck me as all that dangerous.

Originally posted by lord xyz
THen McCain will be all like "Obama is inexperienced and is weak on terror, especially since he's a muslim." and neocon comedians would be like "The reason Obama is weak on terror is because he's one of them, no wonder peope think he's gonna get shot." and Hillary will be like "I told you they should've got an experienced person like me; someone with the same foreign policy as the neocons." and we'd be like "America is so ****ing retarded."

And McCain will win the nominee and the world is going to be ****ed.


Yes, very weak, I mean your attempt at humor

Originally posted by Chopsum
Yes, very weak, I mean your attempt at humor Seriously though, can't you see it happening?

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
McCain has never struck me as all that dangerous. Neither did Bush, I suspect.

What about the cells spread worldwide?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
What about the cells spread worldwide?

Those don't matter, Iraq was the terrorist nation that attacked us on 9/11, so Iraq is the nation that needs to be cleaned. All hail Bush Co.

Oh, the barrel will most likely reach around $155+ this summer, so expect gas to be around $5.00 a gallon, for the cheap shit. Go Bush!

A gallon is like 4 liters right?

that would mean that I pay more then twice the amount for one liter as the americans does, so stop whining

Originally posted by Utrigita
A gallon is like 4 liters right?

that would mean that I pay more then twice the amount for one liter as the americans does, so stop whining

3.8 liters in a gallan, to be exaxt.

By that logic, NEVER EVER complain again in your life, about anything. As there is someone off far worse than you.

Originally posted by Robtard
Those don't matter, Iraq was the terrorist nation that attacked us on 9/11, so Iraq is the nation that needs to be cleaned. All hail Bush Co.

Oh, the barrel will most likely reach around $155+ this summer, so expect gas to be around $5.00 a gallon, for the cheap shit. Go Bush! But hypothetically speaking, say they are wiped out in Iraq. What do you see happening then?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
But hypothetically speaking, say they are wiped out in Iraq. What do you see happening then?

I still see young guys picking up arms and fighting what they see as an invasion of their country. If Al Qaida isn't backing them, then some other group will, or Iran will continue too, maybe on a larger scale. Russia still owes us for what we did in Afghanistan in the 80's, so that's another possibilty.

Iraq is going to eventually have to go back to a Saddam-like dictator who has no problem with killing thousands in order to keep control. That or let Iran control the country, through similar means. Granted, there will still be some fighting/killing, but they'll be focusing on themselves, 'these Muslims vs those Muslims'. The powers that be simply do not want an America-friendly/controlled country there, so it isn't going to happen, not tomorrow, not in another 5 years.

Edit: What cracks me up about guys like Kidrock who are the "**** yea! We're kicking their asses, woohoo!" type, what has America and the world gained since going in, besides America's economy slowly going into the crapper and ever rising fuel prices?

Originally posted by Robtard
I still see young guys picking up arms and fighting what they see as an invasion of their country. If Al Qaida isn't backing them, then some other group will, or Iran will continue too, maybe on a larger scale. Russia still owes us for what we did in Afghanistan in the 80's, so that's another possibilty.

Iraq is going to eventually have to go back to a Saddam-like dictator who has no problem with killing thousands in order to keep control. That or let Iran control the country, through similar means. Granted, there will still be some fighting/killing, but they'll be focusing on themselves, 'these Muslims vs those Muslims'. The powers that be simply do not want an America-friendly/controlled country there, so it isn't going to happen, not tomorrow, not in another 5 years.

Edit: What cracks me up about guys like Kidrock who are the "**** yea! We're kicking their asses, woohoo!" type, what has America and the world gained since going in, besides America's economy slowly going into the crapper and ever rising fuel prices? I am not an authority on what's going on in Iraq, But I wouldn't say we are "kicking their asses."

I wonder if there is a chance of these cells being activated, like if a particular incident happens, they are to take action.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
I am not an authority on what's going on in Iraq, But I wouldn't say we are "kicking their asses."

I wonder if there is a chance of these cells being activated, like if a particular incident happens, they are to take action.

My point was, let's say we're kicking their asses and winning overall, which would be hard to calculate, since objectives change constantly. How is America (and the world) better off, what are the fruits of our labors? Do you see any?

I doubt it, the Bush admins "Yellow Alert/Red Alert" gimmick has lost effectiveness, people aren't really buying into it anymore.

Originally posted by Robtard
3.8 liters in a gallan, to be exaxt.

By that logic, NEVER EVER complain again in your life, about anything. As there is someone off far worse than you.

did you notice this ?

I'm fully aware of the fact that there are people far worse of then me, I hear about it daily in the media, read about it in the papers, discuss it at work and here at home.

Notice what?

Originally posted by Robtard
My point was, let's say we're kicking their asses and winning overall, which would be hard to calculate, since objectives change constantly. How is America (and the world) better off, what are the fruits of our labors? Do you see any?

I doubt it, the Bush admins "Yellow Alert/Red Alert" gimmick has lost effectiveness, people aren't really buying into it anymore. IMO we'd have been better off not being over there in the first place. I hate to say it, but it's true. 9/11 forced our hand, but we should have seen that coming.

And as far as future attacks from terrorists, we can take all the precautions we want, but if they want to hit us, we are at their mercy.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
IMO we'd have been better off not being over there in the first place. I hate to say it, but it's true. 9/11 forced our hand, but we should have seen that coming.

And as far as future attacks from terrorists, we can take all the precautions we want, but if they want to hit us, we are at their mercy.

Forced us to do something, yes. But there were a lot of other things that could have been done besides invading Iraq, as to date, zero WMDs have been found. I know, I know, they just haven't found them yet.

According to Bush Co., several have been stopped, thanks to this administrations ever vigilant watch.

Originally posted by Robtard
Forced us to do something, yes. But there were a lot of other things that could have been done besides invading Iraq, as to date, zero WMDs have been found. I know, I know, they just haven't found them yet.

According to Bush Co., several have been stopped, thanks to this administrations ever vigilant watch. I have heard stopping terror attacks compared to placing your finger in the crack of a leaky Dam. Sure, the leak has stopped, but another will spring forth eventually.

Then we're obviously doomed if Obama or Clinton take it in '08. Their fingers are small, fragile and reluctant to get dirty, compared to Bush's or another Republican/savior.

Originally posted by KidRock
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080524/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq

What a shame. We can't have that. People wouldn't have anything to complain about.

Originally posted by Robtard
Then we're obviously doomed if Obama or Clinton take it in '08. Their fingers are small, fragile and reluctant to get dirty, compared to Bush's or another Republican/savior.

Don't worry... the Republicans will steal the election like normal.

Originally posted by Robtard
Then we're obviously doomed if Obama or Clinton take it in '08. Their fingers are small, fragile and reluctant to get dirty, compared to Bush's or another Republican/savior. Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Don't worry... the Republicans will steal the election like normal. I love right wing humour.

its so easy to follow. makes me wish jeff foxworthy would do political commentating.

Originally posted by Schecter
its so easy to follow. makes me wish jeff foxworthy would do political commentating.

How do you think he would put it?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
IMO we'd have been better off not being over there in the first place. I hate to say it, but it's true. 9/11 forced our hand, but we should have seen that coming.

And as far as future attacks from terrorists, we can take all the precautions we want, but if they want to hit us, we are at their mercy.
Unless I'm reading this incorrectly, are you saying 9/11 forced our hand into moving into Iraq?

Snicker, snicker

well, they are not white christians, so they must be terrorists, terrorist.

Originally posted by Robtard
Then we're obviously doomed if Obama or Clinton take it in '08. Their fingers are small, fragile and reluctant to get dirty, compared to Bush's or another Republican/savior.

Well, Hilary has done will to dispel that belief...possibly because she has to try harder being a women and all. Remember, "We would obliterate them."?

Originally posted by lord xyz
I love right wing humour.

I wasn't joking.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I wasn't joking.

So what do you think the tactic will be this time

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I wasn't joking. I think you were, since you said don't worry; it's still humorous.

Originally posted by lord xyz
I think you were, since you said don't worry; it's still humorous.

You are confusing sarcasm with humor.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
You are confusing sarcasm with humor.
STFU, Rightwinger.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Well, Hilary has done will to dispel that belief...possibly because she has to try harder being a women and all. Remember, "We would obliterate them."?

Sarcasm, it was.

Originally posted by Robtard
Indeed, as it's pretty obvious neither of us are Rightwingers.

I know; people get me confuse because, even though I am a liberal, I have some conservative ideas.

Originally posted by Robtard
Sarcasm, it was.

I know this...but I couldn't resit using the "Hilary is a warmonger too" comment while using your post/point as a spring board.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I know; people get me confuse because, even though I am a liberal, I have some conservative ideas.

Do you try and fornicate with strange men in public restrooms?

Originally posted by Robtard
Do you try and fornicate with strange men in public restrooms?

Not yet. I'm waiting until I get elected to a political office.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
You are confusing sarcasm with humor. No I'm not. ANYTHING that's funny is humour. What you said is funny...and about the right wing, therefore, right wing humour.

Originally posted by lord xyz
No I'm not. ANYTHING that's funny is humour. What you said is funny...and about the right wing, therefore, right wing humour.

But when it comes true it will not be funny. That is the difference.

^what consvative views do you have?

Originally posted by leonheartmm
^what consvative views do you have?

I am for states rights over the federal government. Now that I think about it I'm more Libertarian.