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Thanos stomps

Originally posted by Bouboumaster
Thanos stomps

Spectre.

Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
Spectre. Give reasons and post scans if you would.

Originally posted by Bouboumaster
Thanos stomps Agreed.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Give reasons and post scans if you would.

What part of 'he became God' is hard to understand ?

Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
What part of 'he became God' is hard to understand ? What did Thanos become? Could Spectre handle it? Post some scans. Lets compare feats.

Originally posted by quanchi112
What did Thanos become? Could Spectre handle it? Post some scans. Lets compare feats.

Thanos became God ? Certainly not the God (One Above All) unless you are suggesting that the aforementioned is incapable of fixing the Universe without destroying & recreating it. Or that he is unaware of certain things going on (such as Thanos not knowing Warlock would be coming through the portal, or being shocked upon seeing Death).

Spectre not being able to handle the power ? It wasn't the power he couldn't 'handle'.

Meh, why do I even bother.

You could entertain him at least

btw spectre

thanos. until sum1 can show me actual scans of the spectre utilising the full extent of the presence/yahweh's power, i wont beleive that he can.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Agreed. So you say...every time.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Agreed.

List reasons and post scans.

Seriously, the Quanchi rhetoric is moronic.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
thanos. until sum1 can show me actual scans of the spectre utilising the full extent of the presence/yahweh's power, i wont beleive that he can.
Well, you have to accept that there are fanboys who believe that just because you put together two aspects of God, non of the all encompassing, you get God.
Spectre isn't even a fly in comparison to God, unless the Source is the true God. Then they didn't become God.

The only feat on panel he had was chickening out btw.

another thread prolly get closed

Neither Thanos Nor Spectre Merged were God.

uuughh...this thread is quan bait.

Originally posted by Astner
Well, you have to accept that there are fanboys who believe that just because you put together two aspects of God, non of the all encompassing, you get God.
Spectre isn't even a fly in comparison to God, unless the Source is the true God. Then they didn't become God.

The only feat on panel he had was chickening out btw.

well the presence/yahweh IS god, the highest one in dc vertigo. but my point is that fans who wanna hype spectre actually beleive that god will sumday BLESS him with ALL his powers which are megaversal level and then he can affecttively BE the presence working on the logic that{like LT} HE gets his power FROM god and only god can limit his power and hence if god gives him his entire power he WILL become GOD himself. as far as i know thats just as silly as saying that LT wud potentially become TOAA, i have never seen anything even close to this happen and i very much doubt that god wud give spectar, a mere fallen angel redeaming himself, all of his power. he is just an agent of the presence's will. and what i know of his feats shows this. he loses to thanos with the heart simply cause ive never seen him show multiversal power in a complete way. he was beaten by parallex and myxptlk as well as the great evil beast.

i thought the heart made him one with the universe and he absorbed everything to fix a fundamental flaw by killing himself.still doesnt make him toaa power and the prescence is toaa equal powerwise and merged gives him prescence power level so spectrechairthanos unless someone has proof to the contary.

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Thanos/THOTI became the Almighty Supreme Being of the Marvel Omniverse.

Anyone wants to challenge that fact, bring it!

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Thanos didn't know where Warlock was?

That's completely untrue.

Thanos instantly knew where Warlock was,
and WHAT Warlock was even doing there.

Thanos overlooked Death for the same reasons he allowed Warlock to survive,
because of his sub-conscious will.

Thanos wanted Warlock to "witness" his "grand gesture"
(healing/re-creating the entire Marvel Universe)

Thanos wanted Death to survive because of his love for her.
(pretty simple)

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Makes sense,
that the ONLY Two that survived,
out of the entire Marvel Universe (including the LT)
were Warlock and Mistress Death.

(Warlock, who knows Thanos better than Thanos knows himself)

(Mistress Death, Thanos' eternal love)

Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
Thanos became God ? Certainly not the God (One Above All) unless you are suggesting that the aforementioned is incapable of fixing the Universe without destroying & recreating it. Or that he is unaware of certain things going on (such as Thanos not knowing Warlock would be coming through the portal, or being shocked upon seeing Death).

Spectre not being able to handle the power ? It wasn't the power he couldn't 'handle'.

Meh, why do I even bother. Time to get into the nitty gritty of this. Ill break it down with scans as I always back up my case even when others dont.

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Thanos with THOTI became .... SUPREME BEING ...... GOD!


According to Marvel Comics >>> any and all empty opinions.

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TOAA is the Almighty Supreme Being/Creator of the Marvel Universe.

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2. TOAA

http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/928/omni2mz6.th.jpg

2. The entity believed to be the Supreme being/Creator of the Omniverse"

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Thanos became the Almighty Supreme Being/destroyer/Creator of the Marvel Universe.

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Here's Thanos' 2008 bio: (at the bottom)


Except for Thanos' own Bio:

http://www.marvel.com/universe/Thanos

" ... Known as the Heart of the Universe,
from which all energy physical and metaphysical emanates,
and thereby gained infinite power ...

... Thanos decided that the true sign of his ultimate power,
would be to destroy the universe
and become the One true Supreme Being ... "

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=========== SUPREME BEING =============


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And GOD!

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Official Marvel Handbook as well:

http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/2069/akbioyu7.th.jpg

"Thanos eradicated the Order, they ... Pronounced him GOD" ...

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=========== GOD =============


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ON PANEl CONFIRMATION!!!!

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King Thor agrees that Thanos does in fact possess "The Supreme Power" ...

http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/6682/th1fl1.th.jpg

"Thanos has usurped the Power Supreme,
and now reigns over All Reality"

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So did Eternity:

http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/5800/th2qb7.th.jpg

"Relinquish the Supreme Power you have stolen"

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The Living Tribunal KNEW Thanos had the "Supreme Power" ...

ignorance claims the LT wasn't afraid of THOTI,
he probably didn't exactly show it like against the Beyonder,
but what does this mean though?

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LT tried to go up against Thanos,
because LT knew the power was in the wrong hands, (Thanos')

LT brought with him practically the entire Marvel Universe to Help Him:


=== The Set UP ===


http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/5121/ltbf6.th.jpg



=== The Attack ===


(Heroes ... and Villains) lol! ... Everyone!


http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/9886/lt3xv1.th.jpg

http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/7682/lt4uy0.th.jpg

http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/3394/lt5xu5.th.jpg



LT KNEW he was going up against the power that was SUPERIOR to his own.



We KNOW what that ONLY power that's SUPERIOR to the LT is:


(excerpt from the official Marvel Handbook - LT bio 2006)
http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/5738/lt1df4.th.jpg

"The Living Tribunal's ONLY Superior is TOAA"

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Seems like the LT knew he wasn't cut out to deal with Thanos,
and evidently it's true, this is why he gathered the calvary to join him.

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I'd like to know something though,
what do you make of this?

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(excerpt from the official Marvel Handbook 2006 - LT - bio)
http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/5738/lt1df4.th.jpg

"The Living Tribunal's ONLY superior is TOAA"

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Logic dictates that ONLY TOAA or a power = to or superior, could defeat the LT:

http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/1825/teb9.th.jpg

LT gets stomped!

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We know Thanos has "someone's" power,
there's no denying that, I'm sure you'll agree.

And if according to Marvel,
the ONLY power above the Living Tribunal's is TOAA's,
who's power do you believe Thanos has?

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The rest of this evidence below,
simply solidifies the scans right above:

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http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/9954/th17wg4.th.jpg

Thanos says:

"Eternity, you must sense that Everything the Almighty was I now am,

did you ever dare demand anything from Him"


Eternity responds,

"No, but" .... (Eternity is actually acknowledging that Thanos speaks the truth)

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http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/500/th18br2.th.jpg

"And I, like He was, am now the Author of All That Will Be ...

my Will is Supreme"


noneyes


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Like I said, it was also confirmed in official handbook Bios:

http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/2069/akbioyu7.th.jpg

"Thanos eradicated the Order, they ... Pronounced him GOD" ...

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THOTI is:

http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/7385/th1mn4.th.jpg

"The Source from which all other power throughout Time & Space springs"

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It made Thanos "SUPREME"

http://img65.imageshack.us/img65/39/t2lo0.th.jpg

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It made Thanos Everything ... of All things in the Marvel Omniverse:

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http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/3922/43563012fv8.th.jpg

"How dare these cretins defy their Supreme Being?

Was I not Now the End-All and Be-All of Reality?

Their very existence was by My Whim"

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Indeed!

http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/4411/th10kz1.th.jpg

"I was Everything ... bonded to Omni-Reality"

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Eternity also relates to the Supreme Being:

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Eternity's "Lord and Master" is the Almighty Supreme Being TOAA/God.

Thanos knew "Eternity could SENSE" he had become the new Supreme Being,
because of this fact:

http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/3120/lt2fc6.th.jpg

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I remember a typical fallacious attempt once claimed,
that Eternity's word wasn't sufficient,
that's agenda minded nonsense ... but I'll knock that too with proof.

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Here Eternity comes with a direct order from,

"the power that the LT represents" (TOAA anyone?)

http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/2936/oaaec5.th.jpg
(excerpt from Infinity War)

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So much for Eternity not relating to TOAA,
although, "The End: Marvel" clearly depicted a relationship between them
during the Eternity and Thanos conversation.

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Also,

Thanos was in a state of Omnipotence,
to suggest he didn't know what he was talking about is absurd.


This is why the LT said,
that Warlock/IG's choice of the Infinity Watch members was infallible:

http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/1970/igisgod2dn4.th.jpg

"Warlock chose him while in a state of Omnipotence,
AND,
it can NOT be denied"

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But of course ...

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What would a being that is everything in the Omniverse, know about it?

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http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/4411/th10kz1.th.jpg

"I was Everything ... bonded to Omni-Reality"

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What would a being that absorbed the LT like a mote in a storm, know about it:

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http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/1825/teb9.th.jpg

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What would a being that erased all of Time-Space in Marvel, know about it?

http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/9067/th1rn4.th.jpg

http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/991/allhecouldum7.th.jpg

"Nothing remained"

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What would a being that created all of Marvel from nothingness, know about it?

http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/3279/44107871it8.th.jpg

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Within the next few years, the Prime Pickle, Absolute afro comb, Sovereign socks, Ultimate Umbrella, and Miraculous Panties will make one the supreme god.

I called it first!

Ok let me show you the Spectre scans where he became merged one by one.http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/SPECTRE_1997_58-18.jpg

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/SPECTRE_1997_58-19.jpg

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/SPECTRE_1997_58-20.jpg

Thanos has better feats and more references as being supreme.

Ok I was going to post Thanos scans proving he would win this fight easily but mr master beat me to it. Thanos stomps the Spectre who proved he couldnt handle being merged for more than a few moments and couldnt handle what it is to be supreme. He has no battle feats whatsoever and couldnt even fathom what it is to be god let alone fight anyone in this condition.


Thanos fixed a flaw that TOAA couldnt fix while Spectre saw the universe through gods eyes freaked out and couldnt handle it any longer. See the differences, its obvious Spectre could never wield such power and that he could only see this through a glimpse because he isnt cut out for this. The sheer logic of his purpose and the nature of god made him lose it and beg to see no more. He is just gods wrath.

Thanos for the stomp.

Originally posted by fangirl101
Neither Thanos Nor Spectre Merged were God. Tool.
Thanos wins.

Originally posted by Eon Blue
List reasons and post scans.

Seriously, the Quanchi rhetoric is moronic. I post scans and I list reasons. Dont hate me because I win so much.

Thanos.

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll222/CapztehLumby/Yesgod.png

If the battle would actually be written it would be one panel, and something like this.

http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/5619/namnlsiu1.jpg

Originally posted by Astner
If the battle would actually be written it would be one panel, and something like this.

http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/5619/namnlsiu1.jpg LOL.


Thanos would utterly rape Spectre and this thread is spite. Good scan.

sigh. thanos wins this obviously. although eirc called ms.master right on his game. mr.master's arguments have started sounding too much like JIA for my confort. pick and interpret the vague parts i like and leave the rest. concentrate on poetic WORDS and hyperbole when they are directly contradicted a few panels down and say little about actual feats. no1 in any comic book universe has ever been truly omnipotent or omniscient. that is only the writers. thanos was limited to the destruction of only one multiverse and thats it. anything outside it, he didnt know about. death possibly sruvived outside and due to the fact that this isnt silly secret wars and you cant KILL death.

and another thing, irrespective of unwarranted hyperbole and invalid fanboyish interpretations, the same feat has been performed by other before. reed with the ultimate nullifier against abraxas did it, genis with entropy did it, mad jim jaspers cud have done it given that he was sayin gsumthing about multiversal/omniversal power, same with wanda with the chaos wave in house of M.
the only difference is the absence of LT. and LT is also screwed up since h was resisted by dr strange and beaten by beyonder and killed when death survived and again beaten by korvak and powerless against corvak etc.
plus you have wierd paradoxical creatures like the infinites whose single hand of their agent was bigger than eternity itself. and then there is friggin eternity, sumtimes he dies with ease against universal threats like the IG and abraxas while at other times he has multiversal power and multiverse threatening beings like abraxas can come from inside him. marvel writers trie to be tooooo profound and poetic and dont know when to stop.

Originally posted by Ryo 666
So you say...every time.

You've only been around for a week. How can you claim to know what Quanchi says every time

This wasn't only adressed to Mr Master.

Your blabbering doesn't deserve any kind of attention and unless you actually bring consistent arguments, that are actually worth my time, you will be ignored.

Did Thanos go beyond and talk to God or a part of him? Thanos w/thotu never did that on panel and of course TOAA not fixing a flaw and needing Thanos to fix it is quite ridiculous, also seeing how the Living Tribunal is suppose to be the supreme power next to TOAA/God he should have been the one that was called on to "fix" the flaw but wasn't, and showing him not to be the one which started Destiny's wheel a wheel alpha and omega spin on, it spins on TOAA/God not LT... If you except the End to be canon TOAA would not be supreme seeing how could he not fix a flaw?? Thanos never went beyond time and everything something The Spectre DID on panel and was shown by the Uni-friend what was like to be The Source/God and could only take it for a few seconds cause he's only a limited being, being shown what was the infinite. Thanos still loses

gj erik

For all intents and purposes, both of these characters became God .

God (in Marvel) vs. God (in DC) = stalemate.

Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
This wasn't only adressed to Mr Master.

Your blabbering doesn't deserve any kind of attention and unless you actually bring consistent arguments, that are actually worth my time, you will be ignored.

He will be ignored by you?

DC>Marvel

Originally posted by leonheartmm
due to the fact that this isnt silly secret wars and you cant KILL death.

It happened, you thought it was silly, and thusly you ignore it?

Where does it say that TOAA couldn't fix the flaw in the universe?... i don't remember reading that anywhere..

cheers

Originally posted by lannfear
Where does it say that TOAA couldn't fix the flaw in the universe?... i don't remember reading that anywhere..

cheers
Actually, people are misinterpreting the concept of the flaw.
It's symbolic, the flaw was the heart.

Originally posted by leonheartmm

thanos was limited to the destruction of only one multiverse and thats it.
anything outside it, he didnt know about.
Unsupported opinions.

Same every day.

Thanos wins this in a stomp. Any character above the Spectre (host Corrigan) in power would beat Spectre merged because Spectre couldn't even handle the power and was pretty much catatonic when he was merged. Thus, he'll "unmerge" after a brief instant and then have to fight his opponent with his normal powers.

Originally posted by Air Legend
Thanos wins this in a stomp. Any character above the Spectre (host Corrigan) in power would beat Spectre merged because Spectre couldn't even handle the power and was pretty much catatonic when he was merged. Thus, he'll "unmerge" after a brief instant and then have to fight his opponent with his normal powers.

Or he remains merged and is simply unebeatable. A supreme being wouldn't even have to engage another supreme being in a fight. No matter how much power they threw at each other, they wouldn't hurt each other. Spectre merged could just stand there catatonic and never get hurt. And endless barrage wouldn't change the fact that you can't hurt God.

Originally posted by fangirl101
Or he remains merged and is simply unebeatable. A supreme being wouldn't even have to engage another supreme being in a fight. No matter how much power they threw at each other, they wouldn't hurt each other. Spectre merged could just stand there catatonic and never get hurt. And endless barrage wouldn't change the fact that you can't hurt God.
What part of "I can take no more" do you not comprehend?

Originally posted by Air Legend
What part of "I can take no more" do you not comprehend? You do realize that he was closer to true God than Thanos ever was. thanos had a massive power up. The Spectre became EVERYTHING and was touching all that was, will and is. connected to every single everything. Thanos destroyed one reality at a time slowly. absorbing at a steady pace. He never once was everthing. If I were really thinking, I would have said the spectre ***** slaps thanos while he is still in control of it all, and then loses his mind.

Originally posted by fangirl101
You do realize that he was closer to true God than Thanos ever was.
Stopped reading.

Originally posted by fangirl101

You do realize that he was closer to true God than Thanos ever was.


Originally posted by fangirl101

The Spectre became EVERYTHING and was touching all that was, will and is. connected to every single everything.
Thanos was everything in the Omniverse.

Originally posted by fangirl101

Thanos destroyed one reality at a time slowly. absorbing at a steady pace.
This is just a typical lie of yours.
Originally posted by fangirl101

He never once was everthing.
Round and round we go.

Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
http://www.marvel.com/news/comicstories.3101.MyCup_o~apos~_Joe_Week_3

You do know who Joe Quesada is, right ? In case you don't, he is the Editor-in-chief at Marvel Comics. What did he just say ? That the Marvel Universe isn't actually reffering to all the Universes from Marvel ?

How do you call this again ? Oh yeah, argument destroyed
I see you mis-read that entirely.

I know who Joey is, thanx, but evidently you do not.

You went and tried you're darnest to find something,
anything to post and make an attempt at contradicting On Panel evidence,
confirmed in official Marvel Handbooks.



Anywho, check out the truth yall:

Joe NEVER said that the Marvel Universe is officially not referring to all Universes,
that's an complete fallacy, and I'm not surprised.

Joe said he hates the FACT! ...
that Marvel deals with all these #s, (like 616 and so on)
so INTERNALLY (between themselves obviously)
they refer to it as the Marvel Universe,
the Ultimate Universe and "everything else."


If Joe really meant in an official sense,
he would be contradicting the entire Marvel make-up,
and I'm positive he's not going to do that.

Which is exactly why he added: "INTERNALLY!"


BTW. The title of the story wasn't Marvel Universe the End,

it was ... The END: Marvel

(Cover of #1)

http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/7775/marveluniversetheend1kh5.th.jpg

The END of Marvel itself:

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"How do you call this again? Oh yeah, argument destroyed" durlaugh

Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr

And since we're on the subject ..
Actually, since we're on the subject,
let me tear up your argument further with ON Panel proof.

Thanos became One with the entire Marvel Universe: (Omniverse)

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http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/4411/th10kz1.th.jpg

"I was Everything ... bonded to Omni-Reality"

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And it was "Omni-Reality" as in all other UniverseS included:


The PROOF:

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http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/5797/th2jt0.th.jpg

"I was a grain of sand in a Distant Future"


Thanos was connected to other TimelineS (UniverseS) evidently.

This is further proof Thanos is talking about everything ... as in "Everything"

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http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/8570/th3jq7.th.jpg

"I was Everything"


Ain't that the truth.

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Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr

He is shocked when he sees Death appearing ..

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s132/Erik_Magnus_Lensherr/th_Thanos10.jpg

And just in case somebody absurdley thinks that he was aware of Death still existing, here he is before Death appears telling Warlock that only the both of them remain ..

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s132/Erik_Magnus_Lensherr/th_Thanos7.jpg
Actually, Mistress Death, for whatever reason she survived,
was located OUTSIDE of the Time/Space continuum.

http://img395.imageshack.us/img395/8479/13037079br7.th.jpg

Thanos was one with Time & Space, (Reality)
this is why Thanos only absorbed Time & Space: (Reality)

http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/8809/allhecould3sq3.th.jpg


So it's no surprise Thanos told Warlock, "Only you and I remain"

because that was the factual truth.

Only they remained within Time & Space.

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You don't like it, write Marvel a letter, send an email, or make a phone call.

Originally posted by Mr Master



Thanos was everything in the Omniverse.


This is just a typical lie of yours.

Round and round we go.

And your statements and personal attacks some how make you correct? Grow up. I haven't called you a liar, even tho you clearly are. I haven't made silly comments like round and round we go. When you are the one that repost the same garbage interpretations over and over. So please, do me a favor, and stop the insults. If you disagree with what I'm saying, then say that. the insults and crap postings and what ever else is for loser debators. Your not a loser debator.

Originally posted by Air Legend
Stopped reading.

Now all you have to do is stop posting and that will be a clean victory in my favor.

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MORE PROOF .. The END: Marvel took place across UniverseS!

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Here Doom sees himself (from another Timeline/Universe)
caught and trapped by Akhenaten:

It's another Timeline/Universe,
cause the same Doom can't occupy two separate Realities.

http://img354.imageshack.us/img354/4821/thoijo8.th.jpg

"And I, apparently captured at some point in my own not-so-distant Future"

"Akhenaten's one fear and weakness ... His Past ...

(or Another Timeline/Universe) the Time before he gained the power"

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Doom uses his Time Machine to reach the Timeline Aknehaten is from (4321)

http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/2032/thoi7hf5.th.jpg

http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/7536/thoi8qm3.th.jpg

"I depart the Present (616) and return to when Aknehaten was but a mere Mortal"

(in reality 4321 which is a Past Timeline of the 616 Reality)

Originally posted by Mr Master
Still ain't sayin anything new dogs.

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No one was able to Fix the Flaw, including "GOD"

http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/420/14646980cy3.th.jpg

"Reversing the damage became impossible ...

impossible for even he for whom nothing is supposed to be impossible"


Quite simple

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That's the way the story was Written and Created by God/Toaa.

God/Toaa themselves created a story where neither themselves
nor Thanos with ALL of their power could fix the Universe without Remaking it.

God/Toaa can do anything,

including making a rock they can't lift.


It should be pretty obvious that due to the Thanos feats showed during the story,
statements by Eternity/Warlock/King Thor/and omnipotent Thanos,
plus confirmed in his personal Bio,
further corroborated in official Marvel Handbooks,
he WAS actually the God and anybody who actually says that is right.

God had his destiny written by someone else? Then who would be above God? Who could use "God" for thier own ends? Who could give "God" all power with no authority? Don't you need authority to wield all power? Dont' you need all power to have the authority? Clearly Thanos was NOT God. and not even close to it.

Here Akhenaten guards his mortal form in Reality 4321 (a Past Timeline of 616)

http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/1897/thoi9ej4.th.jpg

"Did you believe I would leave my Past unguarded"

"And so History continued unchanged, under the watchful eye of it's dark guardian"


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Here Akhenaten himself states,
that the Celestial Order,
ventured into different Realities/Timelines to find him and others:

http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/3156/thoi6lz6.th.jpg

"Through Time and Space they searched for their chosen few"


If the Celestial Order was crossing Time & Space,

then they were visiting Timelines, which are Realities/Universes of their own.






continues in the next post....

fangirl101
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Originally posted by Air Legend
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That is called baiting and flaming. You have been on and off of my ignore list. Doesn't mean I have to flame or bait you and let you know this.

Here Vishnu states that Aknehaten originated from the PAST of 616:

http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/7856/thoi4vl7.th.jpg

"Lord Horus arrives late to a meet concerning dire peril emanating from Ancient Egypt"


"Ancient Egypt" is still in existence in some Timeline.


Can anyone say the 4321 Timeline?

Marvel can:

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/4750/aknu5.th.jpg

1334 BC. = Earth-4321 Reality


==========================================


The nail in the coffin!


==========================================


Here we have Zeus summoning the rest of the Pantheons from other Timelines,

Like Horus:

http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/9029/thotiwq3.th.jpg

"Tis also THIER Universe (like 4321) that be imperiled"


And Thanos says,

"meanwhile Doctor Doom was also having HIS Universe (616) badly shaken"

swank

1.


(This is from the actual Marvel Handbook Bio 2006) - Eternity

http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/7417/58790925tc2.th.jpg

"Thanos claimed the Power of THOTI,

Eternity opposed Thanos once more,

Thanos destroyed ALL of Reality"






2.


(This is from the actual Marvel Handbook Bio 2006) - Living Tribunal

http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/373/ltbioan2.th.jpg

"Thanos destroyed ALL that Existed with his power ...
and then Restored Reality"







3.


(This is from the actual Marvel Handbook Bio 2006) - Infinity

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/6981/inth3.th.jpg

Thanos used THOTI to destroy All Reality


========================================


Notice that none of the Bios mention (1 - or - O-N-E - or - A) Universe.


What it does clearly state is:



"Thanos destroyed ALL of Reality"


"Thanos destroyed ALL that Existed"


========================================


And Jim Starlin agrees ... it was the ENTIRE Marvel Universe!

(creator/writer of Thanos and the End: Marvel)

------------------------------------------------------------------------

From Comicon:

Another Jim Starlin interview:

http://www.comicon.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=36&t=000382

"Thanos and the resurrected Pharaoh Akhenaten compete for the ultimate power"

...

"Figured if I was going to kill off the entire Marvel Universe
it ought to be the real thing"


thankyou

stay on topic yall

i am sure the mods are watching

sick thread.

looks like thanos is winning....

thats because we have a new galacticstorm !

Mr. Master, fangirl and Air Legend and leonheartmm, you all have been in several reports today. I don't care who started what but this needs to stop.

Originally posted by Badabing
Mr. Master, fangirl and Air Legend and leonheartmm, you all have been in several reports today. I don't care who started what but this needs to stop.
I did not insult anyone today. I made sure of it.

Originally posted by fangirl101
I did not insult anyone today. I made sure of it. This isn't a debate. Read my post. Nobody said "insult". This is your final chance to drop it. Thanks.

Originally posted by Badabing

Mr. Master, you all have been in several reports today.
On the reals, I think you should review threads before throwing names around.

I haven't insulted/disrespected/ one person, (not even sarcasm/or snide wit)
I'm even tolerating extreme intransigence, surpassing that of Nvr.

If I get reported
cause a cat feels stupid from the insurmountable amount of evidence I post,
which he can't in any way counter,
that's not my problem.

But the bottom line is:

I don't enjoy my name being flung when I've done nothing wrong.
That ain't right.
I'm debating over here, whoever is offended by on panel proof,
should step out, or mind their own.

Originally posted by Mr Master
On the reals, I think you should review threads before throwing names around.

I haven't insulted one person,
I'm even tolerating extreme intransigence, surpassing that of Nvr.

If I get reported
cause a cat feels stupid from the insurmountable amount of evidence I post,
which he can't in any way counter,
that's not my problem.

But the bottom line is:

I don't enjoy my name being flung when I've done nothing wrong.
That ain't right.
I'm debating over here, whoever is offended by on panel proof,
should step out, or mind their own. I reviewed the thread and the reports. We've had this discussion before. This isn't a debate. Let it drop before it becomes more than what it is. Thanks.

edit

Originally posted by psycho gundam
edit Good call on the edit. If you have questions then PM me.

Originally posted by Badabing
Good call on the edit. If you have questions then PM me. lol that was a cloooose one.

it wasn't anything bad or provocative, but i don't want to be made an axample of.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
lol that was a cloooose one.

it wasn't anything bad or provocative, but i don't want to be made an axample of. Oh, I have something planned for you......evilgrin

Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
This wasn't only adressed to Mr Master.

Your blabbering doesn't deserve any kind of attention and unless you actually bring consistent arguments, that are actually worth my time, you will be ignored. I was just curious about your viewpoint is all. I guess you dont feel you to have to explain it. Concession accepted.

Originally posted by kevdude
Did Thanos go beyond and talk to God or a part of him? Thanos w/thotu never did that on panel and of course TOAA not fixing a flaw and needing Thanos to fix it is quite ridiculous, also seeing how the Living Tribunal is suppose to be the supreme power next to TOAA/God he should have been the one that was called on to "fix" the flaw but wasn't, and showing him not to be the one which started Destiny's wheel a wheel alpha and omega spin on, it spins on TOAA/God not LT... If you except the End to be canon TOAA would not be supreme seeing how could he not fix a flaw?? Thanos never went beyond time and everything something The Spectre DID on panel and was shown by the Uni-friend what was like to be The Source/God and could only take it for a few seconds cause he's only a limited being, being shown what was the infinite. Thanos still loses

gj erik Huh? It was stated that Thanos was god by Starlin himself. How many times did we see Lucifer and his superior talk about how he was shaped by external forces.

Darkseid handled stealing the Sources power just fine. Spectre and his host couldnt handle being one with the source.

Spectre has zero feats to back him up and couldnt grasp being god for more than a few moments it seems.

Thanos wins. Feats,writer statements all add up to him being supreme.

Originally posted by Badabing
Mr. Master, fangirl and Air Legend and leonheartmm, you all have been in several reports today. I don't care who started what but this needs to stop.
heh. I was reported? lulz. for what?

Originally posted by Mr Master
Handled.




These Two scans pertain to the same incident.

His second scan is from the issue where Thanos first became THOTI,
Thanos clearly states the reason WHY he "did not sense this meeting" ...

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s132/Erik_Magnus_Lensherr/th_Thanos2-1.jpg

"So engrossed was I, in my NEW FOUND Omnipotence
that I did not sense this fateful meeting"


His second scan pertains is from the next issue,
where Thanos is simply re-reating (in other words) what he already said.

Which was:

"So engrossed was I, in my NEW FOUND Omnipotence
that I did not sense this fateful meeting"

That "fateful meeting" was "the Universe rallying against" Thanos.



Nice try.

Originally posted by Badabing
Oh, I have something planned for you......evilgrin
heh

http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/6800/68cea0c82xaal4.th.jpg

Originally posted by Mr Master
..................................................................................

"How do you call this again? Oh yeah, argument destroyed" durlaugh


Actually, since we're on the subject,
let me tear up your argument further with ON Panel proof.

Thanos became One with the entire Marvel Universe: (Omniverse)

................................................................................

http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/4411/th10kz1.th.jpg

"I was Everything ... bonded to Omni-Reality"

................................................................................


And it was "Omni-Reality" as in all other UniverseS included:


The PROOF:

................................................................................

http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/5797/th2jt0.th.jpg

"I was a grain of sand in a Distant Future"


Thanos was connected to other TimelineS (UniverseS) evidently.

This is further proof Thanos is talking about everything ... as in "Everything"

................................................................................

http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/8570/th3jq7.th.jpg

"I was Everything"


Ain't that the truth.

................................................................................

Didn't you remember the part where I asked you not to spam with the same arguments saved in a document ?

Originally posted by Mr Master
Nice calculated crop.

Let's ignore the fact,
that Thanos on that SAME PAGE was distraught,
overwhelmed with regret over what he had done, (erasing Marvel)
so in this state of turmoil for a moment he was obviously distracted,
but the instant he focused again,
he KNEW exactly where Warlock was plus the details:

http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/4955/t1aa2.th.jpg


Next Page BEFORE Warlock said a word:

All of a sudden Thanos KNOWS exactly WHERE Warlock was,
with WHO and WHAT he was doing there:

http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/3138/t2iv1.th.jpg

"You & Gamora were OUTSIDE this reality,
tending Atleza, this Actuality's Cosmic Anchor"


I thought Thanos was clueless about where Warlcok was? hum

So just because he was thinking about something else it is an 'excuse' for him not knowing that Warlock would come through the portal ? Good one.

On the same page where he is clueless about Warlock coming through the portal, he says that "Nothing remained".

And you seem to miss my point. It has nothing to do with Thanos deducting/knowing where Warlock was during the time he beat and absorbed the others, it was him not knowing who would be coming through the portal.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Actually, Mistress Death, for whatever reason she survived,
was located OUTSIDE of the Time/Space continuum.

http://img395.imageshack.us/img395/8479/13037079br7.th.jpg

Thanos was one with Time & Space, (Reality)
this is why Thanos only absorbed Time & Space: (Reality)

http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/8809/allhecould3sq3.th.jpg


So it's no surprise Thanos told Warlock, "Only you and I remain"

because that was the factual truth.

Only they remained within Time & Space.

..................................................................................

You don't like it, write Marvel a letter, send an email, or make a phone call.

It is stated that Mistress Death exists in a plane outside this reality, so if Thanos didn't knew that she still existed, it means that his Omniscience and Omnipresence isn't all encompassing.

It's really quite simple.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Handled.




These Two scans pertain to the same incident.

His second scan is from the issue where Thanos first became THOTI,
Thanos clearly states the reason WHY he "did not sense this meeting" ...

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s132/Erik_Magnus_Lensherr/th_Thanos2-1.jpg

"So engrossed was I, in my NEW FOUND Omnipotence
that I did not sense this fateful meeting"


His second scan pertains is from the next issue,
where Thanos is simply re-reating (in other words) what he already said.

Which was:

"So engrossed was I, in my NEW FOUND Omnipotence
that I did not sense this fateful meeting"

That "fateful meeting" was "the Universe rallying against" Thanos.



Nice try.

Omniscience means knowing what is, has or will be happening at any time. It doesn't have limits, that have already proven, nor is it influenced by any factors such as 'I was so emotional after killing everybody' or 'I was so engrossed in my newfound power that I didn't notice'.

Seriously, what the hell is up with this arguments ? Do you really think that the One Above All's power would be this limited ?

Originally posted by Mr Master
Still ain't sayin anything new dogs.

..................................................................................


No one was able to Fix the Flaw, including "GOD"

http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/420/14646980cy3.th.jpg

"Reversing the damage became impossible ...

impossible for even he for whom nothing is supposed to be impossible"


Quite simple

..................................................................................


That's the way the story was Written and Created by God/Toaa.

God/Toaa themselves created a story where neither themselves
nor Thanos with ALL of their power could fix the Universe without Remaking it.

God/Toaa can do anything,

including making a rock they can't lift.


It should be pretty obvious that due to the Thanos feats showed during the story,
statements by Eternity/Warlock/King Thor/and omnipotent Thanos,
plus confirmed in his personal Bio,
further corroborated in official Marvel Handbooks,
he WAS actually the God and anybody who actually says that is right.

Actually no, you can't have it both ways. Either Thanos didn't become the embodiement of God thus the reason he couldn't fix the Universe without destroying and recreating it, or the One Above All is also limited thus the limitation on Thanos.

You want to go with your line of reasoning ? Okay, I'll destroy your argument using it. Since you say 'God' limited himself for the purpose of the story (unable to fix the flaw in the Universe) than that means that even if Thanos truly did recive God's power, then it was a limited one's power, thus not the actual embodiement of God's power who should be able to do/know everything.

Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr

What the hell ?

Joe flat out stated that those who actually write

the comics don't reffer to the Marvel Universe as the whole Marvel

(including the Ultimate line etc) but just a part of the totality.

Jim Starlin interview: (the Writer/Creator of The End: Marvel)

http://www.comicon.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=36&t=000382

"Thanos and the resurrected Pharaoh Akhenaten compete for the ultimate power"

"Figured if I was going to kill off the entire Marvel Universe
it ought to be the real thing"


yawn

Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr

Didn't you remember the part where I asked you not to spam
with the same arguments saved in a document ?
Gibberish.

You been spamming with unsupported, mis-interpreted, mis-leading, gobbledygook,
you don't see me complaining, just my ass off at your posts.

Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr

So just because he was thinking about something else it is an 'excuse' for him not knowing that Warlock would come through the portal ? Good one.

On the same page where he is clueless about Warlock coming through the portal,
he says that "Nothing remained".
Yea, cause that's all he was doing, just simply thinking. Good one

AGAIN!!!

Thanos on that SAME PAGE was distraught,
overwhelmed with regret over what he had done, (erasing Marvel)
so in this state of turmoil for a moment he was obviously distracted,
but the instant he focused again,
he KNEW exactly where Warlock was plus the details:

http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/4955/t1aa2.th.jpg


Next Page BEFORE Warlock said a word:

All of a sudden Thanos KNOWS exactly WHERE Warlock was,
with WHO and WHAT he was doing there:

http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/3138/t2iv1.th.jpg


Thanos said "Nothing remains" ...
and NOTHING did remain withIN Time/Space.

Read the scan though homie,
Warlock was OUTSIDE of Space/Time ...

Thanos absorbed ALL of Space/Time:

http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/8809/allhecould3sq3.th.jpg

So withIN Space/Time ... well ... "Nothing remains"

Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr

And you seem to miss my point. It has nothing to do with Thanos deducting knowing where Warlock was during the time he beat and absorbed the others, it was him not knowing who would be coming through the portal.
Handled.

Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr

It is stated that Mistress Death exists in a plane outside this reality, so if Thanos didn't knew that she still existed, it means that his Omniscience and Omnipresence isn't all encompassing.
Or it could be that sub-consciously he allowed Death to survive,
because of his eternal love for her.

Warlock stated the reason for Thanos letting him live,
was for someone to "witness" Thanos' "grand gesture"
that "grand gesture" is ... re-creating/healing the ENTIRE Marvel Universe.

====================================

If Thanos wanted, he could've absorbed Death too,
and Warlock.

Isn't it a coincidence though,
that Thanos only left (as far as anyone knows) Two realities behind, (or beings)
Death (his life-time infatuation) and ...
Atlea's realm which contained Warlock.

Warlock, I remember Thanos saying he saw no reason not to erase Warlock aswell,
You know what Warlock responded with:

http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/9291/15027108kd0.th.jpg

"Except then no one would witness your grand gesture"

Thanos replies, "I was not aware that I had one planned"

Warlock responds, "The security of the Void is not your way Titan"

......................................................................................................


What do yall think that means?

Warlock knew Thanos would end up Re-Creating everything (his grand gesture)
because like he told Thanos:

"I understand you, better than, perhaps, you do yourself,
why I have trusted you so many times in the past"

"The security of the Void is not your way Titan"

Precisely, Thanos doesn't wanna rule over nothing, a Void.

......................................................................................................


IMO,
it's quite conceivable
that Thanos (subconsciously) allowed Death and Warlock to survive for said reasons.

Death for love ...

and Warlock for This .. to witness This:

http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/3279/44107871it8.th.jpg

Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr

Omniscience means knowing what is, has or will be happening at any time. It doesn't have limits, that have already proven, nor is it influenced by any factors such as 'I was so emotional after killing everybody' or 'I was so engrossed in my newfound power that I didn't notice'.

Seriously, what the hell is up with this arguments ?

Gibberish.

Thanos had just merged with the power of God/THOTI, like a few pages back,
you don't expect euphoria to set in?

Jeesh, Thanos himself gave the reason WHY he was distracted for a moment:

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s132/Erik_Magnus_Lensherr/th_Thanos2-1.jpg

"So engrossed was I, in my NEW FOUND Omnipotence
that I did not sense this fateful meeting"

Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr

Do you really think that the One Above All's power would be this limited ?
Seriously, what the hell is up with this argument? (see, I can do that too)

TOAA has always had his power,
Thanos had JUST acquired that power,
how can you compare the two? :doh

Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr

Actually no, you can't have it both ways.
Either Thanos didn't become the embodiement of God
thus the reason he couldn't fix the Universe without destroying and recreating it, or the One Above All is also limited thus the limitation on Thanos.
Gibberish.

Thanos became God, the Supreme Being on panel, in bios,
and according to the Writer (Jim Starlin) himself.

Thanos did fix the flaw, the only way it was possible to fix.
(that's the way the story was written)

If Thanos would've been able to fix the flaw by simply waving a hand,
then the arc would've ended in the middle of issue #4.

And Jim needed to erase ALL of Marvel, so that wasn't an option.

Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr

You want to go with your line of reasoning ? Okay, I'll destroy your argument using it. Since you say 'God' limited himself for the purpose of the story (unable to fix the flaw in the Universe) than that means that even if Thanos truly did recive God's power, then it was a limited one's power, thus not the actual embodiement of God's power who should be able to do/know everything.
God limiting himself is just my theory to tolerate certain intransigences,
the fact is,
Thanos was God the Almighty Supreme Being of Marvel.

He had no limits, but it's a freakin comic book story
and it has to follow a sequence that gives the story meaning.

Usually, actually ALWAYS, stories involving Cosmics, or omnipotent powers,
contain PIS!

Why?

Well, to make a story that can last more than a two pages.

Like Thanos acquires THOTI in one page,
the next page, Thanos waves his hand and either fixes the flaw,
or erases and re-creates Marvel with the same wave of the hand.

See, one way or another, that's a cheesy story,
hence the PIS!

======================================

Is that it?

Is this what you meant by:

Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr

I'll destroy your argument
hysterical2

Originally posted by Mr Master
======================================

Is that it?

Is this what you meant by:


hysterical2

Yes.

I have proved all of my points and if anybody actually reads our discussion, he would realize that you've never actually proved any of them wrong and you heavily rely on speculation for countering some of them, while dodging others.

From this point on, the discussion has no point since I've already said what I had to say and you're not actually countering anything, so I'll just let those who read it make up their minds.

I think I'm going to save this discussion for the next time somebody brings up the fact that Thanos became the 'God'.

Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
Yes.

I have proved all of my points and if anybody actually reads our discussion, he would realize that you've never actually proved any of them wrong and you heavily rely on speculation for countering some of them, while dodging others.

From this point on, the discussion has no point since I've already said what I had to say and you're not actually countering anything, so I'll just let those who read it make up their minds.
"Yes?" ... So in other words, still nada?

Cool.

The rest of your post is gibberish.

Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr

I think I'm going to save this discussion for the next time somebody brings up the fact that Thanos became the 'God'.
Do what you like, it will simply be disproved again.

You have a problem with Thanos/THOTI becoming God the Almighty Supreme Being?

..........................................................................


Here's Thanos' 2008 bio: (at the bottom)


http://www.marvel.com/universe/Thanos

" ... Known as the Heart of the Universe,
from which all energy physical and metaphysical emanates,
and thereby gained infinite power ...

... Thanos decided that the true sign of his ultimate power,
would be to destroy the universe
and become the One true Supreme Being ... "

..........................................................................


=========== SUPREME BEING =============


..........................................................................


And GOD!

..........................................................................


Official Marvel Handbook as well:

http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/2069/akbioyu7.th.jpg

"Thanos eradicated the Order, they ... Pronounced him GOD" ...

.............................................................................


=========== GOD =============



Write Marvel a letter and complain.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++


Or if you have a problem with Thanos/THOTI destroying the ENTIRE Marvel Universe?

.............................................................................


Jim Starlin interview: (the Writer/Creator of The End: Marvel)

http://www.comicon.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=36&t=000382

"Thanos and the resurrected Pharaoh Akhenaten compete for the ultimate power"

"Figured if I was going to kill off the entire Marvel Universe
it ought to be the real thing"


.............................................................................


Write Jim Starlin a letter and complain.


.............................................................................

http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/9067/th1rn4.th.jpg

http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/991/allhecouldum7.th.jpg


Damn skippy.

Ok so Thanos decides he's going to be the supreme being, and the order proclaims him God, some how make him God? WHAT THE HELL? That doesn't make him God just because he's more powerful than everyoen else nor does it make him supreme because that was his intention. He's been down that road before.

Originally posted by fangirl101

Ok so Thanos decides he's going to be the supreme being,
and the order proclaims him God, some how make him God?

WHAT THE HELL?

That doesn't make him God
Yea, I figured you'd return with the typical spin.

So I saved this for ya:

http://www.adelaidecomicsandbooks.com/starlin.html

=====================================

Another Jim Starlin (creator/writer of "The End: Marvel" interview:


Jim Starlin states ... Thanos: "basically he was God" (first paragraph)

=====================================


Don't ever come back telling me Thanos wasn't God.

If you do, you'll cement your intransigence as a fact.

Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
Yes.

I have proved all of my points and if anybody actually reads our discussion, he would realize that you've never actually proved any of them wrong and you heavily rely on speculation for countering some of them, while dodging others.

From this point on, the discussion has no point since I've already said what I had to say and you're not actually countering anything, so I'll just let those who read it make up their minds.

I think I'm going to save this discussion for the next time somebody brings up the fact that Thanos became the 'God'. You havent proven one thing. There are interviews and on panel confirmations about Thanos being god.

I think most have made up their minds and the side with Thanos. They also so your dodging as to why Spectre actually wins. You provided no scans or no real reasoning as to why you think he wins.

there have been countless scans put up explaining what actually happened as opposed to your skewed version of events.

The verdict is in and Thanos wins this convincingly. To me you showed us your dc biased becuase when push came to shove you just stood there and did nothing. You didnt even debate for the Spectre at all and simply gave him the win because he is from dc and with nothing to back it up.

Originally posted by fangirl101
Ok so Thanos decides he's going to be the supreme being, and the order proclaims him God, some how make him God? WHAT THE HELL? That doesn't make him God just because he's more powerful than everyoen else nor does it make him supreme because that was his intention. He's been down that road before. Well if you want to avoid the writers own interpretation of things and on panel confirmation then youd have a point but in doing so you are ruining your credibility. You cant argue with the proof thats brought to the table. If anyone brings an interview from Starlin then there is absolutely nothing you can say,nothing. Go ahead and try to find fault and say you didnt like it but theres on panel confirmation as well.

Concede or remain ignorant.

Originally posted by fangirl101
I agree. Again this is fiction and when we have the writers own words there is nothing you can say other than I accept this.

Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
Yes.

I have proved all of my points and if anybody actually reads our discussion, he would realize that you've never actually proved any of them wrong and you heavily rely on speculation for countering some of them, while dodging others.

From this point on, the discussion has no point since I've already said what I had to say and you're not actually countering anything, so I'll just let those who read it make up their minds.

I think I'm going to save this discussion for the next time somebody brings up the fact that Thanos became the 'God'.

Originally posted by starlock
What did he prove starlock?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Again this is fiction and when we have the writers own words there is nothing you can say other than I accept this.

Would you please stop telling people how and what to do

Originally posted by starlock
Would you please stop telling people how and what to do We have the writers own words here along with on panel confirmation. How can you disagree with the writer? How?

So basically you can disagree with on panel confirmation and the writer if you want to?

Originally posted by quanchi112

We have the writers own words here along with on panel confirmation. How can you disagree with the writer? How?

So basically you can disagree with on panel confirmation and the writer if you want to?
Why are you even bothering?

Can't you see the agenda?

Don't waste your time friend,
intransigence is running that show.

Originally posted by quanchi112
We have the writers own words here along with on panel confirmation. How can you disagree with the writer? How?

So basically you can disagree with on panel confirmation and the writer if you want to?

I remember you making a joke at my expense when i was using an interview with the writer of the hulk in another thread, you are just so transparent....its sad...if you can determine when and where interviews can be used why cant others?


I can understand telling someone..to stop misleading, when opinions are used as fact, or when a poster puts his own words in brackets around on panel descriptions to mislead people, or when posters out right lie

Telling people who they have to vote for in a vesus match is based on a personel level...which you have no buisness dictating, we have rules and that enough, when your a mod i will take your words with some weight...untill then your another debator who uses his own methods to determine any outcome...simple

Originally posted by starlock
I remember you making a joke at my expense when i was using an interview with the writer of the hulk in another thread, you are just so transparent....its sad...if you can determine when and where interviews can be used why cant others?


I can understand telling someone..to stop misleading, when opinions are used as fact, or when a poster puts his own words in brackets around on panel descriptions to mislead people, or when posters out right lie

Telling people who they have to vote for in a vesus match is based on a personel level...which you have no buisness dictating, we have rules and that enough, when your a mod i will take your words with some weight...untill then your another debator who uses his own methods to determine any outcome...simple What thread and what joke? I have no clue can you send me a link to the thread on a pm so I can look at it myself.



I know everyone is free to their own decision but you cannot ignore a writers interview and on panel confirmation that supports what the writer said himself. These are facts you cannot argue with and if you do you can dispute anything which makes debating impossible. I am free to my own opinion and I think most are using their own preconeived notions no how powerful god is and forgetting this is comic and there has to be a struggle and it doesnt have to be logical or fit their personal descriptions of what god is to them.

In the end its just a comic book. Anyone catch the pun?

... but you're still wasting your time Quan,
the grudge on that shoulder will never die.


On the other hand, (this has nothing to do with you Quan)

This is the second time today, the troll LIES about me.


I challenge anyone to find a mis-leading opinion that I passed on as fact.

I challenge anyone to find these so-called "brackets" I used to mislead people.

I challenge anyone to show us where I lied.


I challenge homeboy to prove he's not a troll.

... oops, being that defines homie, that wouldn't really be possible.


Ok, so the other challenges for the troll still stand.

Originally posted by quanchi112
What thread and what joke? I have no clue can you send me a link to the thread on a pm so I can look at it myself.



I know everyone is free to their own decision but you cannot ignore a writers interview and on panel confirmation that supports what the writer said himself. These are facts you cannot argue with and if you do you can dispute anything which makes debating impossible. I am free to my own opinion and I think most are using their own preconeived notions no how powerful god is and forgetting this is comic and there has to be a struggle and it doesnt have to be logical or fit their personal descriptions of what god is to them.

In the end its just a comic book.

I think it was a WWH vs ? and the interview was based on the fact that the writewr stated that thor would have been beat at the end of wwh when hulk went worldbreaker? it also said somthing to the effect that even superman would have been defeated, i made a point that in that comic the writer would have made it so wwh would win...and you made a remark about me including an interview....i will check around...but its not that important....the point is...

Posters will include website info and swear its good info...unlike wiki....then when the info does not jive with them...its not ok....but then its ok when the website and bio are the same,but its not ok if on panel does not jive

Posters will also include interviews then say that they are no good....but they are good with on panel verification, then we have on panel verification, but the bio's disagree etc .etc .etc


We all have our own way of debating and how we come to our own conclusions....but we cant start dictating those terms to others

Show me the rule where its stated on panel>bios
Show me the rules that say bio's>on panel
Show me the rules that state supreme=supreme=stalemate

These are a posters way of trying to say, i know more than you and my way is better...it might make sense in some cases and even the way most people think, but its not a rule we must follow

Originally posted by starlock
I think it was a WWH vs ? and the interview was based on the fact that the writewr stated that thor would have been beat at the end of wwh when hulk went worldbreaker? it also said somthing to the effect that even superman would have been defeated, i made a point that in that comic the writer would have made it so wwh would win...and you made a remark about me including an interview....i will check around...but its not that important....the point is...

Posters will include website info and swear its good info...unlike wiki....then when the info does not jive with them...its not ok....but then its ok when the website and bio are the same,but its not ok if on panel does not jive

Posters will also include interviews then say that they are no good....but they are good with on panel verification, then we have on panel verification, but the bio's disagree etc .etc .etc


We all have our own way of debating and how we come to our own conclusions....but we cant start dictating those terms to others

Show me the rule where its stated on panel>bios
Show me the rules that say bio's>on panel
Show me the rules that state supreme=supreme=stalemate

These are a posters way of trying to say, i know more than you and my way is better...it might make sense in some cases and even the way most people think, but its not a rule we must follow I think WW Hulk could beat Thor so I cant imagine myself saying that.


As far as Superman and WW Hulk I give it to WW Hulk handily but here is the difference as I see it. That writer had no control over Superman and in his mind he was above Superman but Superman is a dc character and thus he has no control whatsoever of Superman.

Starlin had control over marvel here and Thanos,he had it stated on panel that Thanos was god,supreme,etc. and also backs it up with an interview. There is no guesswork involved here.

On panel goes along with the interview here so there imo is no counter. Its a fact.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I think WW Hulk could beat Thor so I cant imagine myself saying that.


As far as Superman and WW Hulk I give it to WW Hulk handily but here is the difference as I see it. That writer had no control over Superman and in his mind he was above Superman but Superman is a dc character and thus he has no control whatsoever of Superman.

Starlin had control over marvel here and Thanos,he had it stated on panel that Thanos was god,supreme,etc. and also backs it up with an interview. There is no guesswork involved here.

On panel goes along with the interview here so there imo is no counter. Its a fact.

Like i said it not that important, and we have been off topic,so.....

Spectre backed for the win

Originally posted by Mr Master
... but you're still wasting your time Quan,
the grudge on that shoulder will never die.


On the other hand, (this has nothing to do with you Quan)

This is the second time today, the troll LIES about me.


I challenge anyone to find a mis-leading opinion that I passed on as fact.

I challenge anyone to find these so-called "brackets" I used to mislead people.

I challenge anyone to show us where I lied.


I challenge homeboy to prove he's not a troll.

... oops, being that defines homie, that wouldn't really be possible.


Ok, so the other challenges for the troll still stand.


Is that in this thread or any thread ever...cause i can meet every challenge...i just might need to show other threads from you....ok...now i dont want to see you getting angry if i do...so just let me know

Originally posted by quanchi112

On panel goes along with the interview here so there imo is no counter.

Its a fact.
You know what I did, put the cat on ignore.

You don't know how liberating that was.

Try it, watch what happens ... cause you're just wasting your time.

It's a fact, dumbest shit yet!

Quanchi thinks it's proven, so it has to be a fact!

Even A.J or Nvr, never claimed that things were facts because they "thought" they were.

I asked you all to be civil and yet I still see several reports today.

Closed....